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Offline TheMarvell

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Hellboy 2
« on: December 20, 2007, 06:37:37 PM »
check out the new teaser trailer:

http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=15870

I think it looks pretty good. Just as good as the first one anyways. A lot of people I know, both fans of superheros and not, find Hellboy lame though, claiming, at least for the movie, it was too hard to suspend their disbelief. What's the general consensus on this board though? Fans of Hellboy?

I've never heard of him until the first movie came out, which I'll admit, I thought looked ridiculous, but decided to give it a chance after it got decent reviews and was pleasantly surprised. Most of my friends disagreed though and thought it sucked. This sequel looks pretty good though.

Offline steamteck

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 07:55:47 PM »
Looks cool! I liked the first one. What'd so much harder to believe than lots of similar films? His hand?

Offline Figure Fan

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2007, 09:13:19 PM »
Umm..

The first Hellboy movie was amazing, and very much grounded in reality.

This one looks much more like the comic, and feels more 'mystic' and 'supernatural', which are two main aspects of the source material.

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 11:32:06 PM »
The first Hellboy movie was amazing, and very much grounded in reality.

I hope that is a joke. O.o

Offline Figure Fan

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2007, 01:40:25 AM »
The first Hellboy movie was amazing, and very much grounded in reality.

I hope that is a joke. O.o

Uhh..no, it isn't.

The first movie was set in realistic time periods (both past and present), dealt with real world events like WW2, and featured numerous characters who were like regular people. Sure, it dealt with magic and supernatural characters too, but it was still predominantly based in a contemporary reality; our reality.

Offline Adamence

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2007, 01:55:32 AM »
Quote
"The Spear of Longinus, recovered from Hitler in 1958."

"You mean '45. Hitler died in '45."

"Did he now?"

Yes, completely grounded in reality :P

I'll admit I laughed at the time, but realism it ain't. 

Offline Previsionary

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2007, 02:04:43 AM »
The first Hellboy movie was amazing, and very much grounded in reality.

I hope that is a joke. O.o

Uhh..no, it isn't.

The first movie was set in realistic time periods (both past and present), dealt with real world events like WW2, and featured numerous characters who were like regular people. Sure, it dealt with magic and supernatural characters too, but it was still predominantly based in a contemporary reality; our reality.

Actually FF, Hellboy isn't grounded in reality. It's fantasy (I'm not certain of the sub-genre because I'm not thinking about it, but people seem to forget that fantasy can reference history and such). Being set in a time period does not make it more realistic. That's equivalent to saying Captain America is realistic because he was in a war. If anything, it's alternate history...another sub-genre of fantasy.

Offline TheMarvell

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2007, 02:50:01 AM »
well, whatever you want to call it, most of my friends had a harder time suspending their disbelief with Hellboy because of the makeup. Most see Ron Pearlman with red body paint, a goofy glove, and trench coat, followed by a fish man (which I'm still a little lost on. I'm only familiar with Hellboy because of the movie and it didn't really explain who or what Abe was) and they decide the movies fantasy elements are just a bit too much, especially given the fact it's pitted in realistic time periods.

But I enjoyed it. It's not the best superhero/comic book movie adaptation I've seen, but far from the worst.

Offline detourne_me

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2007, 07:50:56 AM »
check out the cartoons too, they're really well done!

Offline Pyroclasm

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2007, 12:25:37 PM »
Loved the first one.  Looks like this one is going to be great.  Definitely will see it in the theatre!  Thanks for the link, TheMarvell.

Offline billdamn22

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2007, 12:38:15 PM »
I also loved the first one. Ron Perlman was such a fine choice of actor for the role. I can't wait to see this one!

Offline GogglesPizanno

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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2007, 04:51:15 PM »
The first one had to grow on me.
Something felt off when I first saw it...
Upon subsequent viewings I like it a lot more.
The second one looks like more of the same only emphasis on the "MORE" So I'm looking forward to it.

Thats said, no amount of time has fixed the abruptness and underwhelming sense of "Thats it?" that the first films ending brought. Thats still my biggest gripe. I'm really hoping they don't fall into that trap with the second one.

And I will second the opinion that the new animated movies they've been putting out are really good...

As an aside, is it just me or does the villain in the new trailer seem a lot like the Wraith from Stargate Atlantis

Offline the_ultimate_evil

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2007, 05:02:36 PM »
the whole ending takes place in my backyard

NORTHERN IRELAND BABY WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


sorry i think its cool

Offline Figure Fan

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2007, 05:39:27 PM »
I want to see more of Mr. Krauss  :cool:

Offline steamteck

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2007, 07:20:46 PM »
well, whatever you want to call it, most of my friends had a harder time suspending their disbelief with Hellboy because of the makeup. Most see Ron Pearlman with red body paint, a goofy glove, and trench coat, followed by a fish man (which I'm still a little lost on. I'm only familiar with Hellboy because of the movie and it didn't really explain who or what Abe was) and they decide the movies fantasy elements are just a bit too much, especially given the fact it's pitted in realistic time periods.

But I enjoyed it. It's not the best superhero/comic book movie adaptation I've seen, but far from the worst.



I really hope your friends aren't that mentally unadaptable. It seems they couldn't handle  almost anything I would enjoy. The makeup I understand( disagree with people are way too anal about this sort of thing) but the mixture of realistic and fantastic elements so common in almost every fantasy/comic/supernatural movie. If your a fantastic movie fan my sympathies to you.

Offline Reepicheep

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2007, 07:26:03 PM »
I gotta admit, I wasn't as thrilled by the first movie as I hoped I would be, but I never was particularly up to date with Hellboy in general. I really haven't summoned up the will to see it again, though I might after seeing this new trailer.

I enjoyed Hellboy as a character in the film, but I just felt like all the other aspects didn't quite match up.

Maybe its just me.  :wacko:

Offline catastrophe

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2007, 10:05:03 PM »
looks cool, i still have mixed opinions on the first one but i i enjoyed the movie overall...

Offline TheMarvell

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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2007, 03:44:27 AM »
My friends aren't mentally unadaptable. They really enjoy fantasy movies of almost all genres. But Hellboy just didn't do it for them I guess. Most of them said that the looks of the characters made it really difficult to take the movie seriously, added with some of the cheesy one-liners specifically from Ron Pearlman.

I didn't feel the same way as they did, obviously, but I could see where they were coming from.

Offline lugaru

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2007, 08:34:09 AM »
I just re-watched the first one with some friends last night and while it has it's flaws (horrible dialog, bad use of color, moments of awkward CGI) it is a really fun adventure movie with a whole slew of nerdy fantasy sci-fi elements.

The sequel (judging from the trailer) seems to suffer the same problems but it really looks like a big step forward. Honestly I cant wait, this will be a ton of fun.

Offline herodad1

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2007, 06:10:14 PM »
hellboy is a fun movie.sometimes i'll watch a movie and i dont get it but the second time i watch it it connects.i think it will be just as enjoyable as the first.i guess abe is just some kind of mutant like the fire chick.hellboys movie was better than the ghostrider attempt.

Offline UnkoMan

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2007, 02:19:54 AM »
For the longest time all that was known about Abe Sapien was that he was a fishman found in a tube in Washington DC. There was a piece of paper attached to it with the date of Abe Lincoln's assasination on it, thus the name. That's all you needed to know, really.

Hellboy is essentially about a bunch of blue collar everymen, who happen to be weirdo monstery people, who fight a bunch of more mystical type folk, and more monsters, and nazi heads in jars with robot gorilla henchmen, and old gods that men were not meant to know.

The first movie... was an alright action movie. It wasn't super great by any means, but it wasn't hard to suspend disbelief, and Ron Perlman was the perfect man to play Hellboy. He pretty much looks like that anyhow. If it wasn't about Hellboy (I'm a fan) and sweet monsters, but instead conventional action movie fare, then I wouldn't have liked it at all.

This second movie, though, looks like it could be better. More fantasy type elements can mean more fun. Or it could mean they try too hard and it comes off like Underworld or something like that.

Offline Panther_Gunn

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2007, 05:05:44 PM »
This second movie, though, looks like it could be better. More fantasy type elements can mean more fun. Or it could mean they try too hard and it comes off like Underworld or something like that.

If this comes true, you'd better run far and fast to avoid a severe beating from the rabid fans.....and the casual fans, alike. :evil:





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Offline BentonGrey

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2008, 06:33:46 PM »
I love the Hellboy comics, and I'm a big fan of the character.  I really enjoyed the first movie, and although I know it had its flaws, I found it a great take on the character, with more hope than usually find its way into Mignola's stories.  I'm REALLY looking forward to the next one!

Offline Jakew

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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2008, 09:37:39 PM »
I actually thought the first film was ok, aside from a bit of a rushed climax.

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2008, 11:56:56 PM »
BUMP!

this comes out soon and it's getting great reviews so far. It was at 100% on RT, but a single review knocked it down to 92% and it doesn't sound too credible, so bleh. This seems like a good year for superhero movies, no?

Offline Zippo

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2008, 12:12:14 AM »
I'm super stoked on this movie.

The first one is in my top 3 favorite movie adaptations of comic characters (beats the heck out of all 3 Spider-man and X-Men movies, IMO), and this one looks to be even better.

Offline BentonGrey

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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2008, 10:01:17 AM »
Yeah, I'm getting excited about this one too!  The previews just look INCREDIBLY cool.  Does anyone know what comic stories it is drawing from?  I couldn't recognize anything in the preview, but they adapted pretty liberally in the first one, so that doesn't mean anything.

Offline Talavar

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« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2008, 05:07:38 PM »
I don't think it's pulling from any specific Hellboy stories.  Mignola and Guillermo Del Toro have both talked about a desire to keep the movie continuity and comic continuity fairly separate.

That said, I'm super-stoked to see this as well.  The first Hellboy movie was a lot of fun, and the sequel looks, and the early buzz on it, like it will be better.

Some have complained about the climax to the last film being underwhelming or rushed, but that was largely an issue of budget and production time.  Given the success of the first Guillermo Del Toro's increased clout after Pan's Labyrinth, and he seems to have been given more money and support by the studio.

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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2008, 12:33:50 AM »
Anybody else see Hellboy 2 this weekend?  I did, and really enjoyed it.  It's increasingly divergent from the comics that spawned it in terms of plot, but the characterization is so well done that I don't care - and the storyline they've gone with instead wasn't bad at all either.

I don't feel like doing a big, spoiler-filled review or anything, but it was good, and well-worth your movie-going dollars.

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Re: Hellboy 2
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2008, 03:46:32 PM »
I saw this film today.  Beware the extreme spoilers!  Look away!  Look away!

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