shape shifters tips and tricks

[Johnny Patches]

...shape shifters...

.. its pretty easy once you get use to it, there are no tricks..
i used almost every shapshifter with the same method it seems to work fine so far
you can add fx's other meshes, bats, cars, planes, ect. ect.
pretty much anything or everything,
ok we will use morp_syn mesh..
its pretty much easier to use that mesh..
we will change the the dodge right mesh to a female mesh
(remember that smaller objects attach faster then bigger ones)
click the dodge right mesh in picture screen
in the block details list it highlites NiTriShape+Editable Mesh
click right mouse button go to flags
check the hidden then click accept..
it should disappear
then scroll up 1 to the NiNode+body_dodgeR
this is wear you paiste your parts too,
every mesh and mesh part has a NiNode and a NiTriShape.
open the female mesh in another Nifskope window, copy the Branch for the Scene Root
go back to morp_syn mesh (leave both winodws open)
paste the Branch for the Scene Root to the NiNode+body_dodgeR mesh
(the dodge left mesh has a dodge right name so im not crazy)

give time to attach.. go get a pop. or wash your hands
then wella there it is..

save it right away.. hate to lose it just as fast as you got it,
you are going to have to adjust it move it around to get it where you want it..
even pose it for pictures..
keep checking your character in C-tools so you get it just right.
dont forget too add those tga's in your standard skin folder.
i use  :ff: then convert it to  :ffvstr: cause its easier to view the fx's.
just add the fx's to female mesh, just skope her like you would any other mesh
but make sure your adding them to the female mesh .. so there is no tricks up my sleeves
even the wall just attach it to the wall's NiNode.. everything needs to be attached to a NiNode
when i get more time ill try to add a few pictures too this..
tips no tricks

[herodad1]

maybe we may see elasti-girl from the INC.cool stuff JP!!

[miguelyanke]

I tried that  A LOT OF TIME!!!! but i've never copy the Scene Root, and when i tried it failed me.... i 'll try again soon, but this time i'll have a tuto.

THANKS JP!!!

[cmdrkoenig67]

...shape shifters...
.. its pretty easy once you get use to it, there are no tricks..
i used almost every shapshifter with the same method it seems to work fine so far
you can add fx's other meshes, bats, cars, planes, ect. ect.
pretty much anything or everything,
ok we will use morp_syn mesh..
its pretty much easier to use that mesh..
we will change the the dodge left to a female mesh
(remember that smaller objects attach faster then bigger ones)
click the dodge left mesh in picture screen
in the block details list it highlites NiTriShape+Editable Mesh
click right mouse button go to flags
check the hidden then click accept..
it should disappear

You are talking about the key frames, not the mesh itself, right?  I'm confused.

then scroll up 1 to the NiNode+body_dodgeR
this is wear you paiste your parts too
every mesh and mesh part has a NiNode and a NiTriShape.
open the female mesh in another Nifskope window, copy the Scene Root
go back to morp_syn (leave both winodws open)
paste the Scene Root to the NiNode+body_dodgeR
(the dodge left has a dodge right name so im not crazy)
give time to attach.. go get a pop. or wash your hands
then wella there it is..
save it right away.. hate to lose it just as fast as you got it
you are going to have to adjust it move it around to get it where you want it..
even pose it for pictures..
keep checking your character in C-tools so you get it just right.
dont forget too add those tga's in your standard skin folder.
i use  :ff: then convert it to  :ffvstr: cause its easier to view the fx's work
to add fxs the female mesh just skope her like you would any other mesh
but make sure your adding them to the female mesh .. so there is no tricks up my sleeves
even the wall just attach it to the wall's NiNode..
when i get more time ill try to add a few pictures too this.. tips and tricks

So you paste the entire female mesh scene root into the male mesh's dodge key frame?  I have to say, these instructions are a bit confusing.

Dana

[Johnny Patches]

ok i dont recall talkin about a KF lol.. this all for meshes :rolleyes:

[cmdrkoenig67]

Then with all due respect...I'm not understanding your "tutorial" at all...It's confusing. 

Are you saying there's actually a dodge_left mesh?

Dana

[Johnny Patches]

yes it is the dodge left in a shapeshifter.  there is like 3 4 different meshes in it look in side morp_syn mesh youll see what i mean.. lol

[yell0w_lantern]

go get a pop. or wash your hands
then wella there it is..

There's a word I don't see often enough on the interweb. I thought Erie and Pittsburgh were the only places that used it.

[Johnny Patches]

go get a pop. or wash your hands
then wella there it is..

There's a word I don't see often enough on the interweb. I thought Erie and Pittsburgh were the only places that used it.

Chicago also my yellow friend

[yell0w_lantern]

I knew a town full of Polish people couldn't be all bad.

[Johnny Patches]

polish?!!!!  :angry: im P.R. (puerto rican ) or should i say Poor Rican

[yell0w_lantern]

It's a piece of U.S. history. Many of the Polish immigrants in the 20th century were headed for Chicago. A large number of them mistook Erie for Chicago and settled here. True story.

[daglob]

Regarding Shapeshifters...

If you put male basic keyframes on Plastic Man TJ and look at it in CTool, you see all the meshes overlapping. Or at least you could in CTool1.

I have two female "dodge" meshes that I was trying to figure out how to get into the main mesh, but hadn't yet. I have a couple of toher distorted female meshes for other manuevers, so maybe I should get to work...

[Johnny Patches]

hope that helps a bit more  :cool:

[JLAfan2001]

Does this mean characters like changeling, snowbird, captain marvel, elastic girl etc. can be played in the danger/rumble room without having two meshes - one with the shapeshifter FFX attribute and the other with the FFX temporary form? This would essentially combine both attributes into one mesh. Is that the idea cause that would be awesome. BTW, that nightcrawler with the teleporting FX is dead on. That adds a whole new level of characterization to the game. Good job, Johnny.

[Johnny Patches]

Regarding Shapeshifters...

If you put male basic keyframes on Plastic Man TJ and look at it in CTool, you see all the meshes overlapping. Or at least you could in CTool1.

I have two female "dodge" meshes that I was trying to figure out how to get into the main mesh, but hadn't yet. I have a couple of toher distorted female meshes for other manuevers, so maybe I should get to work...

i dont quite understand dag.. but i took a female basic and changed the geomitry to fit a male basic and it work except her hands act a little weired is this what you mean?
ok here is what i did a female on a spider-man it seems ok

[laughing paradox]

polish?!!!!  :angry: im P.R. (portarican) or should i say Poor Rican

Get out of here! I'm Puerto Rican too. (I'm also a Poor Rican) ;)

[herodad1]

cool JP!try combining a female mesh and the plasticman mesh( tj ).that would round out the incredibles!

[miguelyanke]

hei! hei! hei! You two are puerto riqueños?????
So, vosotros hablais español?!!! (You two talk in spanish?)

Y ENTONCES POR QUÉ ME ESTOY CALENTANDO LA CABEZA CON EL INGLÉS?!!!! (Why are i breaking my head thinking on english?)

I have to copy the Scene Root or copy branch it?

EDIT:
YOU HAVE TO COPY BRANCH THE SCENE ROOT, NO, COPY

[Johnny Patches]

YOU HAVE TO COPY BRANCH THE SCENE ROOT, NO, COPY

(sí copia rama de la escena raíz)
yes copy the branch for the scene root

[miguelyanke]

vale, me queda una duda, éxiste alguna manera de utilizar un mesh femenino en vez de uno masculino, osease, existe algun mesh femenino polimorfo? o ¿tengo que quebrarme la cabeza y sustituir el mesh masculino por uno femenino?

(ok, i still have a doubt, is there any way to change male_basic/cape to female_basic or any other female shapeshifter mesh? or ¿i'm going to need changing male_basic mesh for female_basic?

[Johnny Patches]

yes copy the whole branch on the female's NiTriShape + Editable Mesh and paiste whole branch on to the NiNode + male_cape then on male_cape's NiTriShape+Editable Mesh
click right mouse button go to flags
check the hidden then click accept.. and the male_cape it should disappear

(sí toda la copia en la rama femenina del NiTriShape + editable y malla PAISTE sucursal en su conjunto a la NiNode + male_cape entonces male_cape la NiTriShape + malla editable
haga clic en el botón derecho del ratón ir a los pabellones
comprobar el oculto continuación, haga clic en aceptar .. y la male_cape que deberían desaparecer)