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Title: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on April 19, 2009, 10:54:18 AM
So, I went back and looked through the archives, and apparently I've gone almost two years without updating my Avatar skin. I really have been slacking off  :rolleyes:


(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3106/image7nxg.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: billdamn22 on April 19, 2009, 12:04:46 PM
I am so jealous of your face work. Every time you skin him it gets better. I don't like the black costume, though. Maybe add some highlights so it stand out more.  :P
Can't wait to see the finished piece.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: docdelorean88 on April 19, 2009, 04:51:37 PM
Looks great! You should definately do more mainstream stuff. If only for the facework! Great stuff cant wait to see more.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: AfghanAnt on April 20, 2009, 01:45:00 AM
How did I miss this one. I really love the eyes.

What image program are you using?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: Cyber Burn on April 20, 2009, 02:07:28 AM
Love the eyes Mato. Great highlights.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 20, 2009, 03:03:53 AM
How did I miss this one. I really love the eyes.

What image program are you using?

I use Paint Shop Pro X2, love it's vector tools. Makes creating logos relatively easy.

Every time you skin him it gets better.

eh, that's a matter of opinion, methinks. Personally, I prefer the one I did waaay back during the FC days (http://home.graffiti.net/majingotenks/images/V2.jpg) over the next (http://home.graffiti.net/majingotenks/images/V3.jpg) couple (http://home.graffiti.net/majingotenks/images/V4.jpg).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 20, 2009, 05:32:38 PM
(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7507/tomattorso.jpg)

For those who don't already know, the skin base I'm working on for this skin will be serving a dual purpose for me. On top of being a shiney base for my Tomato skin, I'm designing the whole thing in such a way that I'll be able to severely cut back on the work I have to do with every skin. Previously, I would restart every skin essentially from scratch, thus the slow outpouring of releases from me. This base, however, is layered so that I can quickly change it to the colors I want without all the tediousness of re-highlighting every. single. time.

In short, Me more skins make.

Oh, and check out them thumbs!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: Podmark on April 20, 2009, 06:25:11 PM
More skins is always good :D

And this one looks excellent. Highlights are prefect.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: The Hitman on April 20, 2009, 07:25:19 PM
Lookin' pretty good so far, Mr. Tomatoy- Head! Really, really like that face work.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: laughing paradox on April 20, 2009, 08:12:08 PM
Looks incredible.. great work so far.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/19/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 21, 2009, 03:00:09 AM
(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/271/image4ris.jpg)

I are done! Yar!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/20/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 21, 2009, 09:13:19 PM
In Ripest Day
In Sweetest Night
No Chocolate Will Escape My Sight
Let Those Who Worship Sugar's Might
Beware My Vitamins
Tomato Lantern's Light

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2310/tomatolantern.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/20/09)
Post by: The Hitman on April 21, 2009, 09:25:37 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/20/09)
Post by: TAP43 on April 21, 2009, 09:32:02 PM
That is looking really great, looking forward to seeing the rest when it's done.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 21, 2009, 09:35:42 PM
hit reply before my post was finished, anyone who has posted since then might want to look up  ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gooey Goodness (04/20/09)
Post by: deano_ue on April 21, 2009, 09:38:45 PM
absolutely superb, and i need the laugh
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: Podmark on April 21, 2009, 09:41:49 PM
Too cool.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: gengoro on April 21, 2009, 10:29:54 PM
 :thumbup: Nice!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: AfghanAnt on April 21, 2009, 10:45:26 PM
Holy crap! I had the same idea for my avatar. I was going to redesign him as a blue lantern. Maybe this should become as new trend?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 21, 2009, 11:22:41 PM
Holy crap! I had the same idea for my avatar. I was going to redesign him as a blue lantern. Maybe this should become as new trend?

Freedom Reborn Lanterns FTW!  :thumbup:

(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5854/tomatocompare.jpg)

The one on the left is the previous version, FYI
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: laughing paradox on April 22, 2009, 01:07:45 AM
You're going to have to teach me your highlighting technique, it's unbelievabe.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: The Hitman on April 22, 2009, 01:17:03 PM
Wow! Looks really good!

(And here, I thought youm were just posting a funny Lantern-ish oath!)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 22, 2009, 02:34:10 PM
Wow! Looks really good!

(And here, I thought youm were just posting a funny Lantern-ish oath!)

Yeah, I was fiddling with the glow and hit post too soon  :doh:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on April 22, 2009, 03:02:51 PM
These skins are excellent! :thumbup: I love the symbol on the GL Tomato. :lol: Aces buddy! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: daglob on April 22, 2009, 07:01:49 PM
This begs the question: "What kind of Lantern is your avatar?"
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: murs47 on April 22, 2009, 08:07:28 PM
Yes! More Lanterns! ^_^
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: billdamn22 on April 22, 2009, 09:50:38 PM
Freakin sweet, Mato. I like The logo! Very imaginative.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: docdelorean88 on April 23, 2009, 04:13:29 AM
I think you sir, have just heard the publics voice! We want to see a tomato lantern+fx! What a great design! Nice stuff Veg head!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 24, 2009, 07:09:11 AM
Don't have time to seriously work on this tonight (stupid orthodontist evils) but whatever. Yar.

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4930/95023920.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Podmark on April 24, 2009, 07:49:19 AM
Well that's a really cool body. No idea who it's supposed to be yet though. I'll need more than a foot.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Gremlin on April 24, 2009, 08:51:21 AM
Well that's a really cool body. No idea who it's supposed to be yet though. I'll need more than a foot.

Yellow Lantern. A foot and a ring, and 'Mato's latest project is the FR Mod? C'mon, Podmark, get in the game. :p
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Beware my Vitamins (04/21/09)
Post by: Cyber Burn on April 24, 2009, 11:52:30 AM
Holy crap! I had the same idea for my avatar. I was going to redesign him as a blue lantern. Maybe this should become as new trend?

That would be cool. I'm liking the Lantern version of your Av alot.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Podmark on April 24, 2009, 02:00:08 PM
Well that's a really cool body. No idea who it's supposed to be yet though. I'll need more than a foot.

Yellow Lantern. A foot and a ring, and 'Mato's latest project is the FR Mod? C'mon, Podmark, get in the game. :p

I missed the ring  :unsure:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 24, 2009, 04:55:52 PM
Just spent two hours at the orthodontist waiting for teeth cleaning... not fun. Going back to bed, I'll get to work on my two projects when I wake up.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Gremlin on April 24, 2009, 08:26:20 PM
Well that's a really cool body. No idea who it's supposed to be yet though. I'll need more than a foot.

Yellow Lantern. A foot and a ring, and 'Mato's latest project is the FR Mod? C'mon, Podmark, get in the game. :p

I missed the ring  :unsure:

The game. Get in it. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 24, 2009, 08:53:37 PM
Well that's a really cool body. No idea who it's supposed to be yet though. I'll need more than a foot.

Yellow Lantern. A foot and a ring, and 'Mato's latest project is the FR Mod? C'mon, Podmark, get in the game. :p

I missed the ring  :unsure:

The game. Get in it. ;)

The sad thing is, I would have told him in person, but nooooo, he didn't want to join my cul... er... project.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 25, 2009, 02:25:46 AM
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3032/37161700.jpg)

You can't see many of them from this screenshot, but the mesh has been updated with 'skoping wizardry from FR's own Black Casanova. More to come...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on April 25, 2009, 01:07:22 PM
It's all you daddy-o. :thumbup: Thanks for lovin' this design and skinning it. I can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 26, 2009, 03:40:22 AM
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5719/99451279.jpg)

*yawn*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Outcast on April 26, 2009, 08:13:44 AM
Perfectly well done skins. Not much else to say.

Since you've been doing some lantern avatars lately, maybe you would be interested in skinning an avatar for Murs. ( Upon reading Murs's spotlight, i believe he doesn't have an avatar yet. ) Maybe this avatar could be a cross between Guy Gardner and Deadpool.  :)  Hmmm, like Deadpool with Guy Gardner's hair and jacket perhaps?  :P Just an idea, but not sure if Murs would like it though. ^_^
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 26, 2009, 04:47:02 PM
might wanna check out my toon thread (http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=49916.msg683795#new)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: darkknight92 on April 26, 2009, 07:00:05 PM
Very, very cool. I can't wait to see the entire collection!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Project Begins (04/24/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 26, 2009, 09:25:49 PM
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4010/yl1.jpg) (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5494/yl2b.jpg) (http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1765/yl3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: AfghanAnt on April 26, 2009, 09:34:00 PM
Whose avatar is this and I like the hair a lot.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 26, 2009, 09:36:21 PM
Yellow Lantern, designed and skoped by Black Casanova (with a few minor changes by moi).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: Podmark on April 26, 2009, 09:38:24 PM
That is so very very cool.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: Gremlin on April 27, 2009, 03:42:51 AM
Like the floating logo...but how would it look in yellow, slightly transparent?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: Tomato on April 27, 2009, 04:12:42 AM
Like the floating logo...but how would it look in yellow, slightly transparent?

Tried that, but it blended too much with the rest of the outfit. Neon Green works because it stands out against the deeper green of the GL uniform.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on April 27, 2009, 04:26:13 AM
Expectations exceeded...by leaps and bounds! :blink: Fantastic work on the skin Tomato. :thumbup: Gabe...if you're around..check it out bro.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: Cyber Burn on April 27, 2009, 06:23:10 AM
Wow, love the eyes and logo.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: murs47 on April 27, 2009, 03:17:22 PM
I loves it. Your new base skin is excellent btw.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: yell0w_lantern on April 27, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
I look gooooooood!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: XPTO on April 27, 2009, 11:00:22 PM
Holy crap  :o, very nice details and highlights, loving it  :thumbup:.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: yell0w_lantern on April 28, 2009, 03:27:59 PM
The more I look at it the more creeped out I get by the accuracy - my eyes actually are somewhat slanted and I have dark blond hair. I'm nowhere near that buff but still it's weird because I don't think there are any pictures of me out there on the interwebz.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: style on April 28, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
 :thumbup: luv it!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Bringer of Golden Light Complete (04/26/09)
Post by: UnkoMan on April 28, 2009, 08:38:01 PM
The only thing I'd say is the eyebrows almost touching seems weird to me.

But other than that, dang man... Nice. You managed to not let the yellow get over bright either. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 01, 2009, 05:45:22 PM
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7838/verdantvowel.jpg)

It would seem Encyclopedia Fighter finally solved the mystery.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Gremlin on May 01, 2009, 09:18:44 PM
I like it. The shades of green complement each other well. But I'm wondering how it would look if the highlights on the black spandex had a green tinge?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on May 01, 2009, 09:42:03 PM
Sweet! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 01, 2009, 11:43:04 PM
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6534/alaric.jpg)

-Ignore the cape. It's from Ren's Supes, just using it as a placeholder until I skin my own.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: vamp on May 01, 2009, 11:55:12 PM
Looks really nice. I love the highlights, but I think it would be better if you did it in white instead of the green.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Gremlin on May 02, 2009, 01:42:47 AM
Ignore Vamp, he's crazy. Those green highlights make it pop beautifully, and it keeps with the whole Verdant Vowel schtick.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Courtnall6 on May 02, 2009, 01:52:40 AM
Really nice work here Tomato...although the top half of the "A" could use some highlights...it's losing it's impact against the black. I like the bootcuffs...but I think you may have over done it a touch on the cloth folds.

Everything else is workin' for me :cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Alaric on May 02, 2009, 02:49:47 AM
That's... just amazing.

Wait. That didn't come out quite right. Let me try again.

That's... just Amazing!

It's... the very embodiment of verdant vowelishness!

I can't decide whether I like it better with the green highlights, or the other ones. Whichever version I looked at most recently seems better  :D

 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Diablo on May 02, 2009, 04:39:03 AM
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6534/alaric.jpg)

-Ignore the cape. It's from Ren's Supes, just using it as a placeholder until I skin my own.

 :thumbup: thats great!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 02, 2009, 08:43:04 AM
Really nice work here Tomato...although the top half of the "A" could use some highlights...it's losing it's impact against the black.

Yeeaaahh... that was actually supposed to be fixed, but PSP crashed while I was working on the Green areas and I forgot all about it amongst the loss of my recent layering data >.<

As far as the highlights... Personally I could go either way (I agree that the green looks good and fits the Verdant character better but there's a contrast to the gray-black I like too) and at the moment green seems to be overwhelmingly preferred, here and RL. So unless there's enough people who really don't like the green, I'm keeping it as-is.

Also, for those of you who'd like to go back and read through the archives... is there anything (sans Fighter, Two Face, and Lina Inverse, all of which have certain issues) that you specifically want me to release or re-release? Right now the list for NPI is:

Avatars (AA, Carr, Damnage, Hellscorp, Pod, Pwime, Rev, Syn, GodGirl)
Ch'nybe*
Cyclops
Darek
Kid Rocket
Mahty*
Marauder*
Red Ant**
Ultimate Spidey

*Will not go up immediately, redoing with new base
**I cannot find my copy of the V2 skin, if anyone has it I would very much appreciate it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: miguelyanke on May 02, 2009, 09:52:50 AM
HEY!!! THAT'S VERY GOOD!!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on May 02, 2009, 12:05:15 PM
You've done it again. Very cool skin my man. Although I like the black....I don't know that I love the green highlights. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 03, 2009, 03:49:41 AM
So, as is probably obvious, I'm beginning to gather everything up for it's inclusion in the new NPI website. However, since it's been ages since I've dealt with many of these skins, I am unsure as to whether many of them will work in regular FF. As I no longer own a copy (my CD is a coaster, and I've changed comps since last I ran it) though, so if any FF player wants to test out my stuff, s/he will get them a bit early.

Any takers?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious (05/01/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 03, 2009, 09:14:59 AM
Don't forget to look at my last two posts, I'm still without aid on both Red Ant and FF.

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8678/alaricr.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Alaric on May 03, 2009, 01:00:44 PM
Y'know, I always enjoy seeing what the various artists in our community do with my avatar, and nothing beats the feeling I get when I see unsolicited artwork, of any sort, based on my avatar, and when it's by a talented artist (which admittedly we seem to have a lot of here) that's even better. As you've probably figured out, from my previous comments, my recent "Return of a Classic" posts, and my new choice of avatar pic, I love it! Can't wait to play around with it in-game!

Other people have done skins for my avatar before- Juancho did an amalgamation of the Vowel and the red Tornado (the Verdant Tornado!) for a skinning challenge, Lionheart did a substantial redesign as a Secret Santa gift, and TUE did a darker, hooded version, also as a Secret Santa gift, but, much as I've loved each of them, none of them seemed to fit my avatar character as I've generally conceived of him- I tend to think of them more as alternate reality versions, with Lionheart's being more of a conventional late '70s- early '80s superhero, and TUE's more of a darker, almost pulp-era-ish character. Both could be fun to explore someday-maybe I should write some short stories based on alternate versions of my avatar or something...

Anyway, yours is the first skin/mesh I've seen for my avatar that really captures the impressive, classic superhero with a touch of goofiness I've generally visualized him as looking like. I also love the hair- I think Juancho first gave him that hair, in his microhero version, but I think it very much suits the character.

Now, I still need to come up with a hero file I'm happy with (and anyone who knows something about my avatar character probably will understand how difficult that's going to be)...

(Note: You should probably include in the readme file that the visual design was created by MJB, with some additional tweaking by Glitch Girl and Juancho. Oh, and you could credit Gremlin for the "green highlights" thing...)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Podmark on May 03, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
That is a great skin. I love the face.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Gremlin on May 03, 2009, 08:39:30 PM
Freaking awesome, 'Mato! I love it! :thumbup:

(Note: You should probably include in the readme file that the visual design was created by MJB, with some additional tweaking by Glitch Girl and Juancho. Oh, and you could credit Gremlin for the "green highlights" thing...)

I dunno, I think that might inflate my ego to popping. :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: AfghanAnt on May 03, 2009, 10:19:20 PM
Really great work on this one. I really like the coloring and hair.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Figure Fan on May 03, 2009, 10:45:36 PM
This is just awesome. Love the colors. So much character!

When do you think you'll be starting on a certain turquoise-y dude?

 :cool: ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 04, 2009, 02:52:25 AM
I've got a few things to finish up for school and NPI, but once both are done I should be able to pound out you-know-who.

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7071/websitew.jpg)

This is what House Quake and I (mostly HQ) have been working on of late. Just got my FTP account today, been uploading stuff most of the afternoon for the grand opening (which might be anytime between now and next year. It all depends on the other members.)

Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Gremlin on May 04, 2009, 03:09:13 AM
How sweet. And a conspicuous missing spot? Consider my interest throughly peaked, friend. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 04, 2009, 03:41:42 AM
Meh, I hadn't intended on being mysterious on this one, if you cross-check the list it should be obvious who is left out... You see, my Damnage skin was eaten by my Shark-men skins for being too blue for them to handle. Yep, it has vanished from the internet forever.







*gives people offering to replace it dirty look* For.ev.er. Got me? *weilds giant metal stick threateningly*






*sighs mournfully* I suppose this means I'll have to add a new Damnage skin to my to-do list as well. Such a shame.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Alaric on May 04, 2009, 03:56:32 AM
I'll try to wait patiently.


...


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...Is it up yet?


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...How about now?



...



...



...Are we there yet?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Cyber Burn on May 04, 2009, 06:42:18 AM
I've got a few things to finish up for school and NPI, but once both are done I should be able to pound out you-know-who.

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7071/websitew.jpg)

This is what House Quake and I (mostly HQ) have been working on of late. Just got my FTP account today, been uploading stuff most of the afternoon for the grand opening (which might be anytime between now and next year. It all depends on the other members.)



Dang, that is cool. I can't wait till the site is up. :banghead:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: UnkoMan on May 04, 2009, 01:24:42 PM
Site looks great. Skin is fantastic. My oh my.

Hmm... I might have that Red Ant. I don't recall, but I will look soon after I set up my computer again. I'll let you know probably by week's end.

EDIT: I lied! I don't have it anywhere. Sorry.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Podmark on May 04, 2009, 04:33:22 PM
Seeing all the skins together just reminds of all the cool designs you've done.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 04, 2009, 04:42:19 PM
pfft, that's just avatar designs. I'll be doing actual Originals for NPI, and that's where you guys need to be looking  ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: billdamn22 on May 05, 2009, 02:19:43 AM
*sighs mournfully* I suppose this means I'll have to add a new Damnage skin to my to-do list as well. Such a shame.
That is just terrible. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 06, 2009, 04:53:58 AM
Apparently one stupid mistake will nearly give you a heart attack, but TWO stupid mistakes will return two supposedly missing skins.

Ok, the sequence of events went like this: Sometime, I think last September, while I was away from home at college I lost access to my portable hard drive, which (at that time) contained all my main FF stuff, all due to some defective usb connectors. Not exactly good news for me, obviously, but when I was at home I was able to connect it to one of our desktop computers and transfer the "most important" stuff off the drive, and onto my server. Idiot that I am, I then deleted everything I moved. Yeah, I'm an idiot.

Anyway, though I have since regained full access to the drive and previously attempted to move all of my important files off my server, the previous transfer did not, apparently, transfer everything. Of course, I did not find this out until I had let my yearly .com renewal die off, thus making me assume the site and files were gone forever.

Cue the (somewhat) happy mistake #2. My original hosting service, independent of the .com, has not yet been canceled. I assumed it had been, because I got emails about it around the same time I was getting 60 from godaddy telling me I was not renewed on my .com, but it is still up, and all my files were hidden safely in it's depths.

Thus, I am happy to introduce the final two stragglers coming from my skinned-but-not-released category(this excludes Fighter and Two-face, neither of which will be released in their previous form):
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5218/linafinalfb6.jpg)(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/994/rarw5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Podmark on May 06, 2009, 08:27:11 PM
Awesome, glad you got them back.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Voweliscious Complete (05/03/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 10, 2009, 09:27:24 AM
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3363/figurefan2.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3245/figurefan1.jpg)

Wow. Less then a day for the skinwork on this one... not done with the hex work on it (still hammering out details with animations), but I was too spazzy to work on that earlier this morning.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 10, 2009, 09:50:31 AM
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1246/figurefan3.jpg)

-missed a few details.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Courtnall6 on May 10, 2009, 01:13:47 PM
Solid work on the costume...but the face is throwing me off. His nostrils are too prominent and sharp...looks like Morbius's "nose" to me really. His lower lip could use more definition/shading too...I can barely see it in these pics.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: daglob on May 10, 2009, 05:34:08 PM
Looks good.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Alaric on May 10, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
Great Figure Fan there! Can't wait to see him in action!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 10, 2009, 07:20:55 PM
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1322/figurefan4.jpg)

-Switched to a new mesh, though at the moment he's without goggles. Oh well, at least for now I can show off the eyes.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Alaric on May 10, 2009, 07:24:12 PM
Wow! Looks even better!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: billdamn22 on May 10, 2009, 07:28:08 PM
The face on this one is much better. Was that photoskinned?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 10, 2009, 07:34:05 PM
The face on this one is much better. Was that photoskinned?

Yeah. I don't do it often, but I felt like FF's photoskin work on his own version was one of the best parts of his skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Zippo on May 10, 2009, 07:37:25 PM
That's some really solid photo skinning there!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Figure Fan on May 10, 2009, 08:49:59 PM
:blink:

The face looks AWESOME. I love the goggles from the other version, too.

I guess the only thing that I could think of would be to maybe darken the dark parts of the teal on the chest so they have more punch. Otherwise, I LOVE it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: AfghanAnt on May 10, 2009, 08:52:29 PM
Really nice photoskinning on the face. I mean really great.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Gremlin on May 11, 2009, 01:01:04 AM
Okay, I can see how that expression would be lost on the earlier skin...I'm wondering if the goggles make the eyes harder to see, which in a weird way obscures the face? I'm not sure. Something like that. I think it'll look significantly different when you mesh/skope them back on.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: docdelorean88 on May 11, 2009, 01:19:22 AM
Wow! I'm gonna have to get my stuff together and send you some stuff on my guy(maybe i'll put out a request for someone to skin him)! Great stuff!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on May 11, 2009, 02:16:39 AM
Attack of Teh Goggles! Yar!

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4743/figurefan5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: daglob on May 11, 2009, 03:28:00 AM
Yeah, but those goggles look pretty good. They don't obscure thins nearly as much as the other ones did.
Excellent Work.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Gremlin on May 11, 2009, 04:51:17 AM
I was wrong. Doesn't change it that much. Really nice work!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Figure Fan on May 12, 2009, 05:14:28 AM
Ohh, I like how they turned out. I'm really excited to see the whole shebang :cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Aly Cat on May 12, 2009, 07:52:35 PM
The photoskinning looks good but the expression looks a bit......drunk(?) to me. It's kind of offset by the uniform, which has that cartoon/comic look to it, so it's an odd match; each part looks good on their own, but combined the look is a bit off, in my opinion. Otherwise it's a good skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on June 14, 2009, 02:31:18 AM
First, a small bit of news on Figure Fan... he'll be up either before the site comes up or slightly after, but he's not exactly done. The version I'm releasing will be a v1 version... it'll contain all animations from TJ's Plastic man, one from Syn's Morph, and several from TJ's Mr Fantastic, but is missing the looping ones (flight, hover, run) that will be in the "finished" project. I'm going to shelve it for a bit to work on some other stuff, but I do plan on beating the thing into submission one day.

Now then, for some content... first, a repost of my contest skin, while I'm here anyway (forgive the size)

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2361/usagent.jpg)

I didn't like US Agent before the contest, but you know, afterwards... I truly despise the character. In my mind, he's A-word Cap, which is kind of in the same realm to me as Goth Spidey an Schumacher Batman... they don't fit, and must therefore not exist.

Anyway, moving on...

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9600/rsomething.jpg)

In-progress look at something I'm working on with Casanova. Provided I can get the mesh pieces I'm doing for it done before round two of the contest, this should be my next skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: USAgent on June 14, 2009, 02:51:58 AM
Aw, I didn't know I was on your avatar "to-do" list Tomato....you shouldn't have ^_^.  But man, I am glad you did! (or at least i am glad you HAD to skin him)
Nice looking glove work and good job on his red and white uniform look, but that shield looks great, from the inner straps to the shiny outer coat!
And nice c-ocky look you gave his face, it fits him well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on June 14, 2009, 02:56:36 AM
I love that angry snear! Nice one Tomato! :thumbup: Oh....I'm doing a little update to our colab. Have it for ya in few. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Reepicheep on June 14, 2009, 08:41:30 AM
The dark fellow seems very relaxed that he's just impaled himself through the crotch.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: cascarudo on June 14, 2009, 08:25:02 PM
the usa agent is great :thumbup: amazing face
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: docdelorean88 on June 14, 2009, 11:35:51 PM
First, a small bit of news on Figure Fan... he'll be up either before the site comes up or slightly after, but he's not exactly done. The version I'm releasing will be a v1 version... it'll contain all animations from TJ's Plastic man, one from Syn's Morph, and several from TJ's Mr Fantastic, but is missing the looping ones (flight, hover, run) that will be in the "finished" project. I'm going to shelve it for a bit to work on some other stuff, but I do plan on beating the thing into submission one day.

Now then, for some content... first, a repost of my contest skin, while I'm here anyway (forgive the size)

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2361/usagent.jpg)

I didn't like US Agent before the contest, but you know, afterwards... I truly despise the character. In my mind, he's A-word Cap, which is kind of in the same realm to me as Goth Spidey an Schumacher Batman... they don't fit, and must therefore not exist.

Anyway, moving on...

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9600/rsomething.jpg)

In-progress look at something I'm working on with Casanova. Provided I can get the mesh pieces I'm doing for it done before round two of the contest, this should be my next skin.
You really have a sweet ballance between cartoon and realistic! GREAT WORK!  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on June 19, 2009, 08:23:57 PM
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9383/glovea.jpg)

I'm having a bit of trouble with the final piece for the skope (shoulderguard) more because I'm a bit drained right now then anything (I had to go to the doctor today to get a letter that says a collarbone I broke 3 years ago has healed by now :rolleyes:) but I thought I'd show off a piece for my latest av project

Edit: grah, put image in twice! D'oh!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on July 10, 2009, 05:12:36 AM
Reep is done on the meshing/skoping end, I'll start him up soon... in the meantime, I've previewed a new mesh over at Freedom Force Center (http://ffcenter.net/). Cheers!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on July 10, 2009, 07:06:30 PM
First, moving over something I posted exclusive to FFC awhile back which technically goes here now (explanation below).

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8058/render.jpg)


As an addendum to yesterday's post(s)... I kinda made a decision as far as the different boards a month or so prior to now, which Ch'nybe is the first actual evidence of. From now on, I'll be posting certain skins exclusively to either here or Freedom Force Center. In short, all my Mainstream stuff will go on FR (including non-obvious mainstream's like Fighter and Lina) and all my Original Chars will go over on FFC. Avatars will (when I remember, meh) still be posted on both, which should be fine since something like 75% of my available skins are Avatars anyway. I am doing this for several reasons.

-It's part of my evil plan to expand the FFC. It's kinda disheartening knowing the work HQ and the others put into FFC to have it only get a few posts a week. Besides, I can say certain things there which I can't on FR.
-I'm lazy, and only posting on one board for at least some of my skins is easier for me.
-I feel like the separate communities are each more receptive to the skins I'm making exclusive anyway. FFC is, at least ATM, just a gathering place for the NPI/Champions crowd +groupies (yes I'm referring to YOU TUE), whereas FR is more a central hub of the broader FF/Comic Fan community as a whole.
-It annoys Prem. Really, that's reason enough >P.

However, even with exclusive skins, I'll probably at least put a notice on one board or the other whenever an exclusive skin is started and when it's finished off, so people don't have to check two places. And just so you all know, I posted an update on Ch'nybe just a few minutes ago.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on July 13, 2009, 12:00:28 AM
In case anyone cares, Ch'nybe is done. http://ffcenter.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Figuratively Speaking (05/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on July 23, 2009, 07:41:45 PM
I bit of a minor upgrade to a few skins/meshes, just as preparation for what's to come.

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9492/tomatop.jpg)(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2310/tomatolantern.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Upgrades (07/23/09)
Post by: UnkoMan on July 23, 2009, 09:18:29 PM
Sweet stuff. Yer always updatin', guy. I love that lantern Tomato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Upgrades (07/23/09)
Post by: herodad1 on July 23, 2009, 10:59:43 PM
is your colossus project on hold? :(
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Upgrades (07/23/09)
Post by: Tomato on July 23, 2009, 11:46:17 PM
Yeah, pretty much. I think what really hurt it, honestly, was that throughout the process I felt I was in the shadow of so many other people... With Cyclops, I went from mesh to skin with very little work, and I skinned a very specific interpretation of the character. I knew what I wanted, and I made it. Colossus though... I was bouncing back and forth between costumes, designs, and artists on one front and on another constantly comparing myself to meshers and skinners who had already done the character, while constantly trying to find a niche for the character that was mine and that I felt passionate about, a take on him that I felt expressed why he's one of my favorite X-men...

In short, it was a draining experience that led to a crash and burn I'd rather not repeat. If someone has a vision for the character and can do right by him wants to take a shot (C6,TUE,Pod,Murs,Hitman,Carrivagio,AA, etc) they can PM me and I'll consider sending it to them... otherwise he's going to sit in a locked away compartment of my computer where I never ever have to think about that burn-out minefield of a project again.

[/discussion end]


This post has been altered via the C.C.C.P. (Combined Coalition of Courtnal6 and Pie). Thank you, and have a nice day.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Upgrades (07/23/09)
Post by: Tomato on July 25, 2009, 05:28:08 AM
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2333/blueg.jpg)

Not done yet, still some serious detailing to do (logo, edge details, ring, etc.)... but as I have work the next two days in a row, this'll probably be it for right now. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Upgrades (07/23/09)
Post by: Tomato on August 09, 2009, 11:44:50 PM
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2651/malebasictm.jpg)

Mk, long story short, rather then include some useless standard skin that served no other purpose then just wasted space (IMO most standards for basic-type meshes are like originals without any originality) I decided to include a base with them... Rather then using my old or my new base, I asked for permission from C6 to include a modified version of his base... one which corrected some of the more glaring issues it has (such as the black hole in the "lower torso"  :unsure:).

Now originally murs was supposed to do it... and he sent me A version... but it was not up to my standards... or murs' for that matter. So, I did it myself.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A New Base? (08/09/09)
Post by: cascarudo on August 10, 2009, 12:30:20 AM
look great i love the fingers
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A New Base? (08/09/09)
Post by: Podmark on August 10, 2009, 02:39:16 AM
cool.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A New Base? (08/09/09)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 10, 2009, 05:47:08 AM
Very cool :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A New Base? (08/09/09)
Post by: Tomato on October 13, 2009, 01:37:45 PM
*Punches burnout in the face*

(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/8660/xco.jpg)

So, yeah, been in major burnout mode recently (which is odd, given my free time...). I have been trying to get back into things several times, but it seems like every time I do theres a game I haven't yet gotten all the secret chests in or a tv show I haven't seen the new episode of... meh. It wasn't until I went back and started reading some old comics (finally found one of the essentials books I'd been looking for) that I got a bit inspired... Gonna try my hand at updating some old costumes without completely changing them.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A New Base? (08/09/09)
Post by: AfghanAnt on October 13, 2009, 02:31:17 PM
*Punches burnout in the face*

(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/8660/xco.jpg)

So, yeah, been in major burnout mode recently (which is odd, given my free time...). I have been trying to get back into things several times, but it seems like every time I do theres a game I haven't yet gotten all the secret chests in or a tv show I haven't seen the new episode of... meh. It wasn't until I went back and started reading some old comics (finally found one of the essentials books I'd been looking for) that I got a bit inspired... Gonna try my hand at updating some old costumes without completely changing them.

Cyclops? Have you ever thought of doing Solar?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on October 13, 2009, 02:40:02 PM
Solar would be awesome. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: detourne_me on October 13, 2009, 04:57:54 PM
I like how you're putting Cyclops on your new male_basic meshes!
Is that a new glove piece too?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: murs47 on October 13, 2009, 05:04:04 PM
Thomas, that glove is hawt.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Tomato on October 13, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
I like how you're putting Cyclops on your new male_basic meshes!
Is that a new glove piece too?

Errrr... possibly? They're the flares from my current Avatar mesh, which I'm not sure I ever released... updated it with fingers awhile back for the Av Lantern thread. I was gonna do a couple additional Lantern versions, never got around to finishing it...

*looks at list of in-progress FF projects*



*cries*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: yell0w_lantern on October 13, 2009, 08:10:47 PM
Yeah, I just got back to a mesh from 2005. That's why I don't look at my list of projects...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Tomato on October 13, 2009, 11:51:24 PM
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4934/cyclopsf.jpg)

I've fiddled with this a bit more off and on throughout the day. It's progressing, but I'm taking a break from my laptop/skinning computer before I take a hammer to it  &lt;_&lt;. I won't bore you with the details here, only that I've had a really rough day and having my mouse keep going bonkers on me is not particularly helping me spaz down.

Anyway, to less irritating topics... Just to kind of explain why I'm skinning my version of the original X-men (or at least Cyclops), well... it seems like every time we go back to the old uniforms (Retro and First Class come to mind, but I don't think they're the only ones) it's like "We're going to go back to the original uniforms now, the same ones the original X-men wore, but they look absolutely nothing like the original comics." It kind of annoys me... I know the original designs were somewhat frumpy, but I've never particularly liked any of the so-called "updated" versions either. Particularly the First Class ones... I enjoyed the series, but the uniforms just looked ugly to me.

Thus, this skin. The idea is to make a version of the X-men uniforms that doesn't look frumpy, while keeping the actual costume design intact.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Tomato on October 14, 2009, 05:13:18 AM
just a minor additional note to anyone who might want to chat with me or get in contact with me: Imight be in the shack occasionally when I'm uploading previews, but I don't have much access to it during most of the day, as my primary net access is through the ps3, which hates teh shack. However, it seems the chat on ffcenter.net works, so I'll leave it up while I'm skinning.

Why mention it you ask? Because I've been stuck at home the last few days due to some kind of bug... haven't even been able to go to work, so I'm a bit starved for outside human contact ATM.

To think I miss the days when I was insular and didn't need to leave the house every few days before going nuts
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Tomato on October 14, 2009, 06:22:21 PM
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9903/cyclopsl.jpg)

It always astounds me whenever I do these in-progress shots... Like, I feel bad because I feel sometimes like I'm doing them every step or so(especially since I'm the only skinner who'll do as many as 6 in-progress previews), but then when I put the newest one up I look at my old one and I'm like "that was my last update?" because I've not only made alterations, but I've become so accustomed to those changes once they've been complete for an hour or so that the old preview becomes somewhat glaring.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Tomato on November 03, 2009, 07:46:56 AM
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3981/chnybe.jpg)

Skin isn't new(posted it on ffc, but that's kinda died, meh), but it'll be going up tomorrow so I figured I'd post it
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Podmark on November 03, 2009, 01:13:12 PM
Looks cool. I like how you did the mask.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: AfghanAnt on November 03, 2009, 02:58:24 PM
I really like the smoothness and eyes on this. Huge improvement over the first one.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Ash4fire on November 03, 2009, 03:15:33 PM
the Eyes are really cool....
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: darkknight92 on November 03, 2009, 06:35:33 PM
Very nice...me likey
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: UnkoMan on November 06, 2009, 03:44:08 PM
That's such a crazy character design to me, even though it is so simple. Awesome job.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Tomato on November 06, 2009, 06:36:24 PM
Huh, I'm surprised that I'm getting responses for this at all... y'know, considering this is a bit old.

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1659/chnybein3dbytomatoisjph.jpg)

-This is the Old version, in case anyone was wondering...

And be sure to check out my mini-info page later on today if you're interested in learning a bit more about the Influx universes
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Essential Vision (10/13/09)
Post by: Tomato on November 11, 2009, 12:51:34 AM
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6457/suit2y.jpg)

Made some progress today working on the Base skin for my new Male_Suit mesh. See, unlike the other base meshes, Male_Suit's mapping is so far removed from what we currently have that I really can't make use of any base skins already out there... not that there are any, mind (TUE made one, but I think that's a private base skin), but still. So I've made my own, to be included with Male_suits release in both tga and layered (.psd, since I know most of you fools don't use .pspimage) formats.

Edit: There! Are you perverts happy now?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Podmark on November 11, 2009, 01:08:37 AM
I thought we had a no nudity rule on this forum. You and your little pant less buddy need to leave. Now. \
But I'll that impeccable suit jacket you have there.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tawodi Osdi on November 11, 2009, 03:06:31 AM
Don't you hate it when you leave the housing feeling that you forgot to do something?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on November 11, 2009, 03:35:44 AM
Wow... when did I become the mature one?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Podmark on November 11, 2009, 03:56:29 AM
Wow... when did I become the mature one?

Aww now my joke doesn't make sense anymore  :(
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: detourne_me on November 11, 2009, 04:29:42 AM
Cool beans Tomato!  Is he based on male_basic or male_suit?
I know the bipeds are a bit different between the two, and was wondering what you're using... for skoping purposes >:D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on November 11, 2009, 04:38:31 AM
Cool beans Tomato!  Is he based on male_basic or male_suit?
I know the bipeds are a bit different between the two, and was wondering what you're using... for skoping purposes >:D

Aye, that's the question isn't it... My male_suit is basically a the Irrational Male_Suit with MB head and hands, but modified for a Male_Basic biped, and Two Face is built off of it. I feel like there's more versatility with the keyframes that way.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on November 11, 2009, 01:28:54 PM
Great job Tomato! :thumbup: Hey are ya gonna add lapels, collar and a tie to it or are they just skinned on?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on November 11, 2009, 06:20:52 PM
Great job Tomato! :thumbup: Hey are ya gonna add lapels, collar and a tie to it or are they just skinned on?

Just skinned on. The thing is, most of that sort of thing is already out there, and these meshes are much like tommy's fingered ones... intended as a core mesh for stuff to be skoped onto.

As for that little pocket thing from the original male_suit? It's gone bye-bye.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on November 11, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
Coolness! :thumbup: Any chance of different body variations for it. This is screaming for tall "fat" or tall muscular versions. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: UnkoMan on November 12, 2009, 04:27:31 PM
Ahhh... male_suit. Now no longer mirrored. I applaud you for that one.

TUE's isn't private, by the way. I recall it was somewhere for download, at least at one point. I also had a suit base for a while, but I don't recall if I ever actually had it up or just sent it out to people when they asked.

Anyhow, it's moot now. Swell mesh. Not being mirrored, it doesn't need that pocket thing, of which I am glad. For some reason it only worked for me half the time.

I agree that we need this in varying degrees of bigness. And while you're doing that... maybe Kingpin sized? Is that possible?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: deano_ue on November 13, 2009, 08:06:43 PM
my first was released, then i totally reworked it and kept it to myself
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: daglob on November 15, 2009, 06:36:07 PM
Ahhh... male_suit. Now no longer mirrored. I applaud you for that one.

TUE's isn't private, by the way. I recall it was somewhere for download, at least at one point. I also had a suit base for a while, but I don't recall if I ever actually had it up or just sent it out to people when they asked.

Anyhow, it's moot now. Swell mesh. Not being mirrored, it doesn't need that pocket thing, of which I am glad. For some reason it only worked for me half the time.

I agree that we need this in varying degrees of bigness. And while you're doing that... maybe Kingpin sized? Is that possible?

Yeah, I want to do Tor Johnson...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on November 17, 2009, 06:49:05 PM
Ok people, long story short: I attempted a Male_Suit_Obese on the MB biped, and it doesn't work. I tried adjusting the shoulders in Max, I tried exporting it and then using my nifskope talents to pull the arms out that way, nothing. The sad fact is that the MB frame is just too small for anything larger then my Male_Fat variant.

Could it work on another biped, such as Male Heavy or Hulking? Sure, it's quite possible. But until I get that far, I'm not going to muck with this too much more.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on December 23, 2009, 07:39:05 PM
Psst... go check out npi. Something new (http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5222/thbsemalesuittm.jpg) might be up.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Podmark on December 23, 2009, 09:18:18 PM
Cool. Should be useful.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: murs47 on December 23, 2009, 09:53:09 PM
sweet! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: deano_ue on December 23, 2009, 10:25:20 PM
damn man, that looks sweet as hell
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: The Hitman on December 23, 2009, 11:06:20 PM
That is some kind of awesome!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Outcast on December 24, 2009, 02:15:00 AM
Nice. A great addition to my collection of meshes/bases. ^_^
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on December 24, 2009, 04:03:35 AM
damn man, that looks sweet as hell

Thanks man, now get to work on your new suit base.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on January 12, 2010, 06:25:35 PM
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9903/cyclopsl.jpg)

Pod's recent Cyclops skin inspired me to go back and finish work on this... All in all, I'm quite happy with how it's coming out, even if it did end up with the one eye beam (:P). Still have the face to do, but I've saved things so I can do Beast and Angel easily later on if I so choose.

Truth be told though, this might be one of the last Freedom Force-related things I work on, at least for awhile... I ship off to basic training in just over a month, which is 8 weeks followed by whatever studying I need to do for my Air Force job. I'm gonna try to finish as much as I can done in the time frame, but who knows what I'll actually accomplish.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Podmark on January 12, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
Looking pretty good. The world always needs more Cyclops.

Good luck with basic training.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on January 12, 2010, 07:18:09 PM
I can't wait to see it finished...very cool Tomato! :thumbup: And good luck man. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: BentonGrey on January 12, 2010, 10:12:11 PM
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9903/cyclopsl.jpg)

Pod's recent Cyclops skin inspired me to go back and finish work on this... All in all, I'm quite happy with how it's coming out, even if it did end up with the one eye beam (:P). Still have the face to do, but I've saved things so I can do Beast and Angel easily later on if I so choose.

Truth be told though, this might be one of the last Freedom Force-related things I work on, at least for awhile... I ship off to basic training in just over a month, which is 8 weeks followed by whatever studying I need to do for my Air Force job. I'm gonna try to finish as much as I can done in the time frame, but who knows what I'll actually accomplish.

Well, that's a fairly awesome last gasp, if it comes to it.  Enjoy basic, 'Mato, it made a man out of a good friend of mine. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: laughing paradox on January 12, 2010, 10:47:20 PM
Nice Cyke! Good luck with BT.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Suited Up (11/10/09)
Post by: Tomato on January 13, 2010, 09:49:56 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/TomatosFromHell/Cyclops-1.jpg)

Finally, I can post this! *pulls leaves out* Stupid imageshack and connection being stupid stupidheads!

Still have the eyes left, but that's somewhat irrelevant to the character... it's in the realm of "details for the heck of it"
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: One-Eye (01/13/10)
Post by: Podmark on January 14, 2010, 04:06:56 AM
Nice collar.

I have to skin eyes for my Cyclops because I'll be updating my Torn costume too.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: One-Eye (01/13/10)
Post by: Outcast on January 14, 2010, 09:47:58 AM
What can i say to a professional/veteran?

Everything is looking good with Cyclops so far as i can tell.

I do like how you did the visor and collar.  :)

I noticed that you're giving Cyclops what seems to me like some padded texture? But I'm not really sure if it's going to suit him though. I'm not that familiar with Cyclops's many costumes. So i could be wrong. :unsure:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 03, 2010, 12:04:08 AM
*beats dust off of thread*

So... starting to skin with what little free time I have now, still fighting with my copy of max (I'll probably end up just re-installing it from scratch at this point... sucks, but what can you do?) but luckily my skoping skills are more or less intact.

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/1008/marauder.jpg)

Here's an in-progress shot of Marauder. It's obviously not done (I've got some evil-to-skin details such as wraps for his forearms and shins for the costume, plus remaining extras and facework.) but it's enough to start with. In all honesty though, I was just happy to find out Ren's Shining Knight was FF1, The animations do what I want them to and I don't have to search through 200+ weapon meshes to find ones that have the sword anims I wanted without having animations for 60 other weapons.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on June 03, 2010, 12:26:35 PM
Can't wait to see this sucker finished 'Mato. ;) ^_^
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Podmark on June 03, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
Looking good so far.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 04, 2010, 02:44:56 AM
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1954/marauder2h.jpg)(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3642/marauderw.jpg)

Left to do:
Belt
Sword
Sleep

So yeah, I'm gonna get on the sleep for now. laterz.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: murs47 on June 04, 2010, 03:05:07 AM
Fook ya! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Artemis on June 08, 2010, 11:16:28 PM
:O always so awed by what you produce Tomato! hope to see more!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 11, 2010, 03:08:06 AM
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2397/marauderx.jpg)

Done, despite some issues with accidentally overwriting certain extras and having to redo them from scratch.  :wacko:

Anyway, expect a bit more from me in the coming months. I spend about 8 hours in class a day right now, and the whole time I'm drawing designs and such out in a vain attempt to stay awake (That and drinking Monsters... never heard of the things before BMT, now I down at least a 24 oz. bottle a day), so I have some stuff to pound out. I have one more member of Influx to skin (I'll do a tomato-ized avatar design for whoever can remember who it is... no promises of a skin, but definitely a sketch), then I have some avatars to skin... expect a bit of mass production for once.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Podmark on June 11, 2010, 03:19:42 AM
He looks really cool. Looking forward to whatever else you do.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: BentonGrey on June 11, 2010, 05:01:16 PM
Nice work 'Mato, good detail on the mask.  Stay awake man! :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on June 11, 2010, 06:27:38 PM
Really liking the sword here. Best of luck in your classes.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 11, 2010, 11:18:02 PM
Ok, so, here's the rundown of what's probably going to happen over the next few days, (I'll probably be referring my mesh thread here also): I'm noticing that while I do have MOST of my newer stuff up (obviously excluding stuff that I've updated and those in "I'm still working on it" limbo ala Fighter) there are still skins and meshes I've done that for one reason or another never made it to NPI. I'm going to go through and upload everything I can find in my collection, as well as adding some additional stuff for the Influx page... Hero Files, FX, and maybe even some stories if you're into that sort of thing.

As of right now, the To Do list is:
Marauder
Cyclops
Figure Fan
Two Face (with the .nif updated to the one Area put together)
Tomato (updated the mesh with fingers, also finishing the Blue Lantern skin)

If there's anything I've not thought of, some mesh I've previewed but have forgotten about, PLEASE post here and let me know. At the very least I'll be able to explain why it's not released.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: area34 on June 12, 2010, 12:28:38 AM
Credit goes to Style for the updated nif. I just cleaned up what he did and skinned it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Outcast on June 12, 2010, 03:14:54 AM
As of right now, the To Do list is:
Marauder
Cyclops
Figure Fan
Two Face (with the .nif updated to the one Area put together)
Tomato (updated the mesh with fingers, also finishing the Blue Lantern skin)

If there's anything I've not thought of, some mesh I've previewed but have forgotten about, PLEASE post here and let me know. At the very least I'll be able to explain why it's not released.

House Quake's Avatar? :unsure:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 12, 2010, 04:04:46 AM
See, the thing about that is... I wouldn't mind skinning it, but HQ was going to do it himself. I don't want to go into details, but the long and short of it is that it's his design and his character and I refuse even the possibility of upstaging him by skinning it myself.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Outcast on June 12, 2010, 05:08:10 AM
Sorry didn't know that. I had the impression he was ok with you skinning his av but i do understand what you're trying to say about it being his avatar and all. :mellow:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 13, 2010, 05:38:05 AM
I'm sure he probably would be, if I asked. but since he seems to have vanished again...  :wacko:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Outcast on June 13, 2010, 09:42:43 AM
I know i saw House Quake online just the other day. So i think he's probably still around. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 25, 2010, 12:13:21 AM
I've got a few projects I want to get started on, but it occurred to me that I needed to make a new base before I could get to work on them.

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7084/femalebase.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: murs47 on June 25, 2010, 04:52:43 AM
Thomas, this is very promising. With how frustrating the warping issues are with the female bodies this is quite an accomplishment.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 25, 2010, 10:33:33 AM
Thomas, this is very promising. With how frustrating the warping issues are with the female bodies this is quite an accomplishment.

Er... it's on my own mesh, so warping isn't as much of an issue. The fact is, I don't really see a reason to use FB-type meshes over my own as a base mesh anyway (Hair being skopeable and all) so I'm not even bothering to set this up for FB and it's warpiness fun.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: deano_ue on June 25, 2010, 01:55:32 PM
looking good so far mate.

the warping is non existent on your female meshes? thats something i didn't know
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Artemis on June 25, 2010, 02:47:10 PM
looking great tomato, so jealous - everytime I see someone else's base skin I go back to my own, trying to find a way to improve it...but bah....lol, i think i may just stick with using others' bases for a little while until I've perfected my own.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: murs47 on June 25, 2010, 03:12:27 PM
Er... it's on my own mesh, so warping isn't as much of an issue.

Oh. Well, I take everything I said back then. :P

But really, what you have is looking very good.





Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: laughing paradox on June 25, 2010, 06:50:38 PM
The picture reminds me of Julia from Hellraiser 2, before she got her skin.

Nice base so far.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on June 27, 2010, 02:16:12 PM
Finished my base yesterday (I had 3 hours of time where I didn't want to disturb my roommate's sleep. Surprising what you can get done when you don't stop every 30 minutes or so.)

Here's a preview of my next skin.

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2091/fcorp.jpg)

I think I'll be adjusting the skope today... I did it using a fabrica version, and the actual sketches seem different. Fun times.

Anyway, who can guess the identity of this avatar? The name of the file might give you a clue, at least of my next project.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on June 27, 2010, 03:44:44 PM
Very cool 'Mato! :thumbup: But I'm thinkin' that the collar bone is little too low. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Mysterious Marauder (06/02/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 09, 2010, 11:02:11 AM
Very cool 'Mato! :thumbup: But I'm thinkin' that the collar bone is little too low. ;)

Eh, you're probably right... but I'm too lasy to go in and fix it now, and it looks fine as is.

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1240/mahty.jpg)

Meh... didn't really intend to do this one already (wanted to finish the above skin first) but I had an hour to kill and I started it on more or less a whim. Unfortunately I'm having to chug caffine all day to survive class, and by the time I get back I'm too drained to do anything more than veg. I can't wait for this day to be over so I can have my weekend.

Anyway, as you can see it's a comparison shot... The hair and ears have placeholder skins (as well as a placeholder meshes... we'll see). I'm not quite as good as some others at picking out hairs, so if I could get some help from a talented skoper on these two females I'd appreciate it.

Oh, in case anyone cares, the skin above is the start of detourne me
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on July 09, 2010, 12:13:40 PM
Tell me whatcha need and I'll be your "Huckleberry". ;) PM me later.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: murs47 on July 09, 2010, 04:30:00 PM
I really love your female base Thomas. You've inspired me to continue mine(someday).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 14, 2010, 11:53:50 PM
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1240/mahty.jpg)

preview #2. hair an ears still placeholders.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: laughing paradox on July 15, 2010, 06:01:23 AM
Very nice face. Great job on that.. I like the logo highlights, too.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: spydermann93 on July 15, 2010, 03:16:51 PM
Very nice Tomato! That looks great!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: Outcast on July 22, 2010, 09:37:04 AM
I like how you did the cat-like eyes. You know, initially i thought you were going to skin Alycat. Didn't know Detourne's avatar looked like that. Is it a redesign as well?  :mellow:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 22, 2010, 09:44:57 AM
I like how you did the cat-like eyes. You know, initially i thought you were going to skin Alycat. Didn't know Detourne's avatar looked like that. Is it a redesign as well?  :mellow:

Sorry about the confusion here, this is actually completely separate from Det's skin. The character in the red bodysuit is Mahty, an Avatar of a friend of mine that I include as part of my Influx team. Detourne (who uses the same base meh and similar ink hair) was only posted as essentially a silloette, and had originally been intended as my first use of the base skin. However, due to the complexity of the design, and the fact that I need some changes to the skope, I switched to Mahty first.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 26, 2010, 01:18:22 AM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/9h76ys.jpg)

Finally spent the time and fixed my copy of max
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: murs47 on July 26, 2010, 02:16:16 AM
That's some of your best work chief, the face is very soft and feminine but she still looks aggressive. Well played.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 26, 2010, 03:13:40 AM
Was working on putting together a group pic for ya'll, and on a whim I went back and looked at the old group shots... jebus

V 1.0 (http://tomatoisjphansburg.deviantart.com/art/Influx-Complete-38950191?q=gallery%3ATomatoisJPhansburg%2F7606558&qo=13)
V 2.0 (http://tomatoisjphansburg.deviantart.com/art/Influx-Final-50991645?q=gallery%3ATomatoisJPhansburg%2F7606558&qo=5)

Compared to:

V 3.0 (http://tomatoisjphansburg.deviantart.com/art/Influx-Version-3-0-172735674)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: An avatar and an original (07/09/10)
Post by: BentonGrey on July 26, 2010, 03:20:04 AM
That's some of your best work chief, the face is very soft and feminine but she still looks aggressive. Well played.

Yeah, well said, Murs.  I think it's all in the eyes and those eyebrows.  There's a lot of personality there.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Heartless (07/26/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 27, 2010, 02:29:59 AM
Still very much a work in progress (about all that's really "done" skinwise is the facework and some hair extras) but I can't work on it anymore tonight, what with having to wake up at stupid hours.

(http://i25.tinypic.com/2i3upv.jpg)

For those not in the know, this character is known only as "Sai." While the character doesn't really interact with Influx that long (what with being killed during his battle with them) he is perhaps the most notorious and (relatively) powerful villain they will ever face.

Though his motives for attacking the team were at first unclear, it seems he had sought to capture the heroine Mahty and force her into the Fallen's service. When the other members of Influx threatened that objective, he attacked them, going so far as to destroy an entire city in an attempt to kill them. The sheer power at his disposal allowed him to tear the team apart, for not even the hidden powers of Darek(Ch'nybe), Peter(Kid Rocket) and Yami (Marauder) were enough to stop him. In the end, Tomato was forced to use his powers in a horrific manner... by focusing heat into Sai's veins, Tomato literally set his blood to boil, murdering Sai in cold blood.

But even though he had been killed, Influx had still lost the fight. Their city destroyed and their spirit broken, Influx disbanded.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Heartless (07/26/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 28, 2010, 02:52:04 AM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/99zy8j.jpg)

More work done today. Fun times.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Heartless (07/26/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 29, 2010, 03:43:02 AM
Mostly done, down to the bow now. I should have enough time to finish him off tomorrow, but I have some errands after class which will cut into my free time tomorrow.

(http://i25.tinypic.com/122gdut.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Heartless (07/26/10)
Post by: AfghanAnt on July 29, 2010, 03:50:16 AM
Wow, I'm really loving the work on the jacket.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Heartless (07/26/10)
Post by: Tomato on July 29, 2010, 04:30:06 AM
Thanks. The coat is meant to be a uniform of sorts... though it's different for each character, the X-based design creates a visual link between characters who were produced by the X-Strike organization (Darek (http://tomatoisjphansburg.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1cdgf4) falls under there as well).

They aren't the only ones with cool coats though... I've got half a dozen designs laid out for future skins, and let's just say there are quite a few Trenchcoats in Influx's future.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Heartless (07/26/10)
Post by: laughing paradox on July 29, 2010, 07:26:09 PM
I agree about the coat. I really like your base skin.. the musculature is very clean and sharp.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne Me (07/31/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 01, 2010, 03:27:12 AM
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2zhqpgw.jpg)

Still a Wip (Gotta skin hair, face, and finish the details on the outfit.) but I'm making headway... I'm trying to get the design as close as I can to the original sketch, but it's gonna take some time to finish. If I don't get bogged down in game playing, I should be able to make some more headway tomorrow.

Edit:

I worked on it some more while watching BTAS. Wonderful show.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/nb4t90.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 03, 2010, 01:38:37 AM
Hair's still left, but I should finish that up tomorrow, provided I don't play video games all night

(http://i27.tinypic.com/2rwrps4.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Cyber Burn on August 03, 2010, 02:16:09 AM
The eyes are just...wow!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: detourne_me on August 03, 2010, 02:45:32 AM
 :thumbup: :wub: :thumbup: :wub: :thumbup: :wub:
AhhhhhhhMAZING!
sorry I just got wind of this now,   it's so great!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 03, 2010, 04:51:02 AM
Very cool!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: BentonGrey on August 03, 2010, 05:41:15 AM
Beautiful work on the costume pattern, 'Mato.  That looks fantastic. 
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 03, 2010, 01:42:07 PM
just a quick post to let you all know I've brightened the skin tone on the face a bit on a suggestion from prem... apparently it came out darker than I had intended
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: laughing paradox on August 03, 2010, 09:15:30 PM
Great skin, Tomato.

The character reminds me of a character from an old Sega Genesis game called Eternal Champions.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: steamteck on August 04, 2010, 12:38:03 AM
wow! That's great! The eyes especially. What a great intensity to them. 
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: detourne_me on August 04, 2010, 03:03:16 AM
yeah! Jetta Max right?
I love how bold the lines are,  almost cartoony,  i think she fits in pretty well into the FF meilleu
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 04, 2010, 03:27:11 AM
Much as I wish I could take full credit for the design on this one, I took my lead from an old school FF master on this one... Dr. Mike. I based this skin entirely on his design for Detourne (for the canceled Strangers 2 mod), not only because it's a uniquely challenging design, but because I know Det's always viewed the design as the quintessential version of his avatar. As such, I tried my best to hold to the spirit of the original sketch.

(http://i.imgur.com/CrFzR.jpg)

As for what my next skin is gonna be... well let's just say Harvey Dent would approve
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Podmark on August 04, 2010, 03:35:57 AM
Looks great Tomato.
Sai has a cool design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: murs47 on August 04, 2010, 03:38:52 AM
As for what my next skin is gonna be... well let's just say Harvey Dent would approve

Renee Montoya?

The skin came out great, Thomas. I really like the leather boots and glove. Muy sexy.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 05, 2010, 08:17:14 AM
It really turned out great. The eyes really take the cake.

I was going through the old posts in this thread and was wondering if you still had my avatar skin from page 4 or so. I really did like it (and the animations you were doing) and would love to have it to use in-game if possible. If not, it's okay. ^_^
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on August 05, 2010, 12:25:06 PM
Fantastic! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 05, 2010, 02:56:49 PM
It really turned out great. The eyes really take the cake.

I was going through the old posts in this thread and was wondering if you still had my avatar skin from page 4 or so. I really did like it (and the animations you were doing) and would love to have it to use in-game if possible. If not, it's okay. ^_^

Yeah, I kinda need to finish that one up... I wasn't quite able to get everything like you asked, but I tweaked the skope so it'll use the working animations. All that's really left is the brick wall, which had stumped me for a bit... but now I have an idea or two for it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 05, 2010, 04:32:51 PM
Yeah, that's sounds more than fine. I was just excited to see some of the basic animations switched out and whatnot. I'm glad you still have the files, at least. It's been over a year :wacko:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: laughing paradox on August 05, 2010, 08:31:18 PM
yeah! Jetta Max right?

Haha, I had to look it up but yeah, her name was Jetta! I miss that game.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: AfghanAnt on August 05, 2010, 11:20:13 PM
She's beautiful. I could have sworn Dr Mike's design had shades as well. But those eyes, just wow.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 06, 2010, 12:54:21 AM
Naw, just very heavy eyelids. It' kind of unclear in the sketch, but mike added a whole lot of notes I found helpful.

Figure Fan is done, more or less... still have to add a portrait and get all the upload nonsense put together, but it should go up sometime this weekend.

Another clue as to what the next few skins are (earlier hint was just for the next one as opposed to the group) since I have to take some time getting my skopes together... What do I, Detourne, and the missing character in my avatar page all have in common?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 06, 2010, 02:34:25 AM
Woot! I'm excited. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 07, 2010, 02:34:57 AM
Mk, so FF is more or less prepped for upload, but I'll wait until tomorrow when I can utilize a connection that goes at more than 15 kb/s to upload him  :P.

In the meantime, here are a few teaser pics... No real skinning has been done as of yet (still nailing down which characters I'm doing+ getting skopes done) thus why I just blacked out most of the skins. Still, Hopefully by the time I finish making teasers of all the characters I'll have the first few uniforms done.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/fa1laf.jpg)(http://i34.tinypic.com/w02bd2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: murs47 on August 07, 2010, 02:53:45 AM
What's "returnina"?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 07, 2010, 03:20:06 AM
What's "returnina"?

That's "returning" oh simple one. The gradient I used for the image just obscures the end of the g.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 08, 2010, 05:57:04 AM
Huh. Wow umm... It seems I'm done-ish (have to add the logo to this last one I made) with 3 skins today. I don't think that's ever happened before.

*shrug* I expect things will start to drag on soon though. I have to do some serious meshwork for at least one of the other chars, and I expect I'll need to completely revamp at least one person's avatar. I'll post pics tomorrow... at least of the first few skins.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 08, 2010, 03:47:46 PM
Ok, so, Figure Fan is up, and...



*waits for roar from FF to die down*


... Figure Fan is up, and here are the previews I promised.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/2eohevq.jpg)(http://i35.tinypic.com/2yywimo.jpg)(http://i37.tinypic.com/10gcuf9.jpg)

Again, Damnage isn't 100% done, but I'm lazy and my 65th Arkham Asylum run-through is calling me. Gotta beat the croc levels, grrr.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: spydermann93 on August 08, 2010, 03:58:24 PM
Those look great Tomato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Podmark on August 08, 2010, 05:42:33 PM
Those look great Tom. Your colour and highlight work is always impressive.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: detourne_me on August 09, 2010, 10:50:40 PM
Yowzas!!!  Looking good!
I love the team design with the distinctive colours, and Damnage is looking really cool. (his design always impressed me)
The belts look fantastic too,  did you just scale the mesh piece for all 3 avs?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 11, 2010, 07:33:00 AM
The uniforms look nice!

I downloaded Figure_Fan_TM and it says that the file is corrupt. It manages to install the character.nif but nothing else. :(
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 11, 2010, 05:34:23 PM
Probably got an error sometime during the upload... using a phone tether for internet so it tends to break off. I have to go out today anyway, so I'll find a good wifi spot and upload there.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 12, 2010, 07:04:20 AM
Probably got an error sometime during the upload... using a phone tether for internet so it tends to break off. I have to go out today anyway, so I'll find a good wifi spot and upload there.

Ohh I see. I just tried to download it and it does the same thing, so I'm assuming you were unsuccessful in your plan to upload..lol. I'll keep checking back to see if it's been fixed, so..yeah  :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: billdamn22 on August 14, 2010, 04:10:40 AM
 :thumbup:
Lots of great stuff from you here, Tom. These latest are all very crisp looking. Good to see the corps have not been forgotten. Lovin the creases on the mask. Can't wait to see the final product.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 14, 2010, 06:03:25 PM
Meh, the place I was going to try reuploading it has had it's wifi down for the last few days. I finally got the file to (apparently) finish uploading properly, but I'm still in the process of confirming that.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 14, 2010, 11:39:12 PM
Meh, the place I was going to try reuploading it has had it's wifi down for the last few days. I finally got the file to (apparently) finish uploading properly, but I'm still in the process of confirming that.

I'm downloading it now. Excited! :-)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 14, 2010, 11:46:43 PM
Okay, so it's pretty darn cool. I love the skin and the goggles. The animations are nice, but I did notice that he loses his limbs during certain area, power up, and ranged animations. Was that intentional so FX could be used instead?

Otherwise it's awesome and I love it. Thanks again Tomato!

P.S. I noticed the little tomato on the back of the active defense brick wall. Nice touch  ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 14, 2010, 11:59:18 PM
Okay, so it's pretty darn cool. I love the skin and the goggles. The animations are nice, but I did notice that he loses his limbs during certain area, power up, and ranged animations. Was that intentional so FX could be used instead?

Otherwise it's awesome and I love it. Thanks again Tomato!

P.S. I noticed the little tomato on the back of the active defense brick wall. Nice touch  ;)

Yes, it was... if I recall right, you had asked for the arms to be skoped out of certain animations so that it wouldn't clash with the fx.

@Billdamn: Heh, I've actually been planning to do the Corps for awhile now... ever since I moved over to NPI, actually. It's the primary reason I "lost" my old Billdamn redesign.

Quick note- The next skin might not be from Freedom Corp... while I work on getting the rest of my designs in place, I'm going to try my hand at skinning a character who needs a skin/mesh upgrade.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Welcome to the Corps (08/08/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 15, 2010, 10:13:47 PM
For those wondering what I meant...

(http://i33.tinypic.com/j0fc5z.jpg)

No offense meant to those who have skinned Phoenix before, but they're all a little out of place against C6's newer skins. I'll be doing Dark Phoenix also, but I'll be doing that after I get regular Phoenix together

Edit: I should point out that the extras, including the hair, are modified from IPS' skin...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Artemis on August 17, 2010, 06:21:07 PM
This looks great so far Tomato! The logo is incredibly crisp and really elegant, like a kind of stylized heraldic symbol.
Jean's is my second fave x-girl and it's great to see more skins of her. can't wait for the finished piece!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 21, 2010, 03:59:22 AM
(http://i33.tinypic.com/254y7eu.jpg)

I was just going to post what I'd done as preparation for tomorrow... and then one thing led to another and I finished the belt extras
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Podmark on August 21, 2010, 04:01:08 AM
She's coming along really well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: cascarudo on August 28, 2010, 01:45:11 PM
great skins love the color and the faces
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: AfghanAnt on August 28, 2010, 02:09:22 PM
Did you know I was going to asking for the Phoenix X-Men team?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 30, 2010, 03:35:33 AM
So... you people need to give cascarudo a biiiig thank you for this... I'd honestly almost forgotten about this skin until he semi-necroposted the thread.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/1111211.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: AfghanAnt on August 30, 2010, 03:42:38 AM
I really love this eyes and lips. She's really ripped.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on August 30, 2010, 04:23:04 AM
I'm loving the color work...it's really fantastic. But why is she so ripped? :unsure:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: murs47 on August 30, 2010, 04:42:22 AM
Ya, those eyes look great so far.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Artemis on August 30, 2010, 10:21:05 AM
beautiful eyes, Can't wait to see the finnished skin!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 30, 2010, 03:37:45 PM
I'm loving the color work...it's really fantastic. But why is she so ripped? :unsure:

That's just how I set up my base... to be honest I hadn't really thought about it. I dunno, after this I might go back and soften it a bit, but I prefer a bit of muscle definition on my heroines.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Tomato on August 30, 2010, 11:29:45 PM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/11vqou8.jpg)

yay for Green/Good Phoenix. I'll do Dark Phoenix... later. headache now.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on August 30, 2010, 11:36:26 PM
Is it just me or is Jean a little "crosseyed"? :rolleyes: :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Kenn on August 31, 2010, 03:21:59 AM
Is it just me or is Jean a little "crosseyed"? :rolleyes: :P

I noticed that myself, so I don't think it's just you.  Both irises are closer to her nose than to the outer part of the eye.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on August 31, 2010, 04:35:50 AM
Looking pretty good!

Like the others, I noticed that she seems a bit cross-eyed. Also, I think her forehead near here eyebrows should be highlighted a bit more, as should the skin under her nose/above her lips. While softening the abdomen isn't absolutely necessary (and up to interpretation, really), I think it could help a bit. Perhaps just less definition on the inner lines of the six pack?

Looking forward to Dark Phoenix! :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Dr.Volt on August 31, 2010, 03:32:43 PM
Wow!  Nice Dark Phoenix!  Like the face especially.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Tomato on September 01, 2010, 12:17:32 AM
*notes things to fix* mk, got crosseyed eyes, eyebrow shading, and abs. I will get right on those... later. Classes are a b**** right now, gotta buckle down for a few days, make sure I get enough sleep and study time in. 3 day weekend though, should have time then.

Edit: Or I could have a convo with murs and have him trick me into finishing it. That works too *gives murs stink eye*

(http://i56.tinypic.com/jsy8ed.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on September 01, 2010, 02:00:31 AM
Welp, she's officially awesome now. Can't wait to add her to the game :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Tomato on September 01, 2010, 02:46:31 AM
I haven't mucked with the face as yet (gonna add appropriate shadows and make the eyes glow) but here's the sofar for dark phoenix

(http://i55.tinypic.com/mre4vt.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: Podmark on September 01, 2010, 02:48:59 AM
Costume looks good. The phoenix icon came out quite nice.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: From the Ashes (08/15/10)
Post by: murs47 on September 01, 2010, 03:07:02 AM
Stomach looks great! Jean looks great!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on September 01, 2010, 03:09:34 AM
Sweet! Lookin hot...lookin' damn hot! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: BentonGrey on September 01, 2010, 07:49:33 PM
Ahh, that is a small, but significant improvement there, 'Mato.  Great work.  You've ended up with a very impressive skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Artemis on September 01, 2010, 09:14:32 PM
 :thumbup:
they're both great, I especially like the red colour on Dark Phoenix, it really pops!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Tomato on September 01, 2010, 10:29:29 PM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/s2fplc.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: murs47 on September 01, 2010, 10:32:04 PM
Sexy! :wub:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: AfghanAnt on September 01, 2010, 11:48:33 PM
Phoenix came out really awesome Tomato. I'm especially in luv with Dark Phoenix's face.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on September 02, 2010, 12:42:00 AM
Love the way the face turned out on Dark Phoenix. What mesh is she on?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Tomato on September 02, 2010, 12:48:56 AM
Female_Basic_TM, with hair and extras from Ink's phoenix mesh.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: laughing paradox on September 02, 2010, 01:50:23 AM
Great job on these, Tomato. Dark Phoenix's face came out particularly amazing.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: daglob on September 02, 2010, 03:19:28 AM
I hate you.

(Said in the most complimentary way)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Cyber Burn on September 02, 2010, 05:17:09 AM
Great facial work on both, but I really love the shadows on Dark Phoenix.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Detourne_Me (08/01/10)
Post by: UnkoMan on September 20, 2010, 02:28:10 PM
Ok, so, Figure Fan is up, and...



*waits for roar from FF to die down*


... Figure Fan is up, and here are the previews I promised.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/2eohevq.jpg)(http://i35.tinypic.com/2yywimo.jpg)(http://i37.tinypic.com/10gcuf9.jpg)

Again, Damnage isn't 100% done, but I'm lazy and my 65th Arkham Asylum run-through is calling me. Gotta beat the croc levels, grrr.

So, I don't come around often enough these days. I know, I know.
But I wanted to say... hey... I know those uniforms. Those are... modified version of the ones we came up with on Mesh Matters, aren't they?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Tomato on September 24, 2010, 03:44:45 AM
Quite probably, though it was mainly coincidental... I based these heavily on billdamn's original fc designs, and I know that same design influenced whatever I whipped up for meshmatters.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: UnkoMan on September 28, 2010, 11:23:52 PM
Ahhhh... I see how it goes. Well they are mighty fantastic regardless. Good jorb.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 11, 2010, 03:23:31 AM
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2806/volt.jpg)

still have stuff to finish (boots, face, etc.) but figured I'd show off what I've done so far.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: BentonGrey on November 11, 2010, 03:34:48 AM
Really nice work here, 'Mato.  I LOVE Dark Phoenix's face.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Podmark on November 11, 2010, 03:38:57 AM
Volt I assume? Looks good, it's a nice design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Scorpion13mk2 on November 11, 2010, 03:37:50 PM
Those are some good, unique faces youre doing there. I really like them.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I eat Suns for Breakfast (08/31/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 11, 2010, 07:24:24 PM
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/2806/volt.jpg)

Yeah, tis indeed Volt. He and a few other avatars will be the primary characters in the first level of my mod.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: spydermann93 on November 11, 2010, 08:04:19 PM
Very nice Tomato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 11, 2010, 09:47:45 PM
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9930/volthead.jpg)

Just got the hair left now... which I'll probably put off doing for a few weeks  :P. Oh, and I want it noted that I REALLY wanted to add a version of that cheesy grin C6 gave him when I skinned it, but I'm leading it to work better with a head.nif
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: BentonGrey on November 11, 2010, 09:49:48 PM
I love the little lightning bolts on the eyes.  That's awesome.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: blobula on November 12, 2010, 12:07:39 AM
Great !
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: AfghanAnt on November 12, 2010, 12:48:25 AM
Neato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 12, 2010, 01:28:03 AM
(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/2806/volt.jpg)

Aaaaaand done. Probably would have been finished sooner if it hadn't been for the fact that a friend lent me his Red vs. Blue DVDs yesterday... but whateverz. Still finished it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on November 12, 2010, 02:54:57 AM
Looks pretty darn cool. I have a question, though. Is he supposed to be Hispanic? I don't remember if Volt's avatar was or not.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: martialstorm on November 12, 2010, 08:06:14 AM
Great design and wonderful detail, Tomato :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: Alaric on November 12, 2010, 04:12:19 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 12, 2010, 05:24:56 PM
Looks pretty darn cool. I have a question, though. Is he supposed to be Hispanic? I don't remember if Volt's avatar was or not.

Honestly? Don't remember for sure myself. I utilized C6's skin as my main reference, which is clearly using his tan/latino tone, so I just used that when I made my skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Volt (11/11/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 13, 2010, 02:59:35 AM
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/8682/randyr.jpg)

TECHNICALLY not done, as I still have to skin the staff... but eh. close enough. Randy Ripoff everyone.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: Figure Fan on November 13, 2010, 03:44:13 AM
Ha! Awesome. Randy looks quite villainous, and the detail on the afro is great.

As for Volt..makes sense. Since I posted that, I managed to look through my FR-related files on my computer and I found an illustration by C6 of Volt where he's looking pretty pasty. Still..it is unclear because I've seen the skin you mentioned and others where it's not so obvious.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: docdelorean88 on November 13, 2010, 04:02:36 AM
daggum! Your avatar work is absolutely sweet!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: Podmark on November 13, 2010, 04:52:55 AM
Wow Randy looks great.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: spydermann93 on November 13, 2010, 06:04:29 AM
He looks great!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: laughing paradox on November 13, 2010, 03:37:01 PM
I'm usually impressed with your skinning work and this is no exception.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on November 13, 2010, 05:52:04 PM
Awesome work on both 'Mato. One thing kinda bothers me though 'bout the faces....something about the nose and mouth...they don't seem "defined" enough if thats the right word. They just seem to sorta blend in.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on November 13, 2010, 06:25:39 PM
Hi Tomato...Great work on these classic avatars....I really like these and this takes me back to the days of electric freedom!!

Respectfully,
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: deano_ue on November 13, 2010, 06:31:08 PM
looks superb but if i may add my own feedback,I love the face a simple look but stern enough

 the suit to me is to bright i always though randy had a more dark grey. i'd lower the wrinkles on the arms them seem too bunched. and i think a domino mask would suit him better

the detailing on the rest of the suit is stunning as if the subtly of the hair
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: murs47 on November 22, 2010, 05:31:44 PM
Tom tom, that is amazing! Randy looks sick!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff (11/12/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 24, 2010, 01:56:47 AM
Grah! I went back to adjust some stuff on Randy and realized I missed his stache entirely. *stabs premonitioner* this is your fault, foo! You should have noticed it and b----ed at me about it.

(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6480/randyak.jpg)

Suit is a few shades darker (the main area I adjusted though was the mask... looking at it I realized I made it too white instead of light gray like I intended. Blah.) and the skin is lighter to better match MJB's awesome artwork from Villains Reborn. And the staff is done too, yar.

Also spent a few minutes prepping a non-masked version of his face... I think I might be able to find a use for it later.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff COMPLETE (11/23/10)
Post by: Podmark on November 24, 2010, 03:13:46 AM
Again, Randy looks amazing. Excellent work 'Mato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff COMPLETE (11/23/10)
Post by: Outcast on November 24, 2010, 05:55:41 AM
Both Randys look good to me Tomato. :)  :wacko:

First one looks more younger...while the new one looks more mature and stern? :unsure:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff COMPLETE (11/23/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 25, 2010, 01:02:59 AM
So, my connecting flight from Cleavland to DC got delayed from leaving at 1910 to a departure of 2045... but hey, the upside is I got started on GG during the wait.

Fun times[/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff COMPLETE (11/23/10)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on November 26, 2010, 02:27:58 AM
Hi Tomato, great stuff!  I really like your avatar work!  Are you planning others?

Respectfully,
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What a Ripoff COMPLETE (11/23/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 26, 2010, 03:31:25 AM
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9839/glitch0.jpg)

Maaaybe

Skin's still a WIP, especially the jacket (still have another layer of highlights to add before I start on some of the smaller folds and detail work) but she's coming along OK.
Title: Re: T0m@t0'5 5k1nw0rk: 3RR0R (11/25/10)
Post by: Tomato on November 26, 2010, 11:19:40 PM
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/108/glitchr.jpg)
Title: Re: T0m@t0'5 5k1nw0rk: 3RR0R (11/25/10)
Post by: murs47 on November 28, 2010, 08:42:26 PM
that is looking really good tom-tom
Title: Re: T0m@t0'5 5k1nw0rk: 3RR0R (11/25/10)
Post by: Podmark on November 28, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
GG is coming along nicely Tom.
Title: Re: T0m@t0'5 5k1nw0rk: 3RR0R (11/25/10)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on November 30, 2010, 11:33:52 PM
Hi Tomato,

I really like the way GG is coming along...Will you be releasing any of these avatars?

Respectfully,
Title: Re: T0m@t0'5 5k1nw0rk: 3RR0R (11/25/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 01, 2010, 11:42:07 PM
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2020/glitchg.jpg)

Slight update to GG, so that now she looks like a female Barakapool. >P

But no, in all seriousness, I just haven't skinned the mouth yet, and the face was done with her domino mask in mind. It was just weird skinning her, because I'm not used to doing females without skinning eyebrows as well... normally when I do eye-browless faces for masks and such, it's for male characters.

Anyway, to Sioux' question: I will be releasing them, but I'm not sure if they'll be released separately or just as part of the Influx mod (the first level features Volt and GG as playables, and Randy as the boss).
Title: Re: T0m@t0'5 5k1nw0rk: 3RR0R (11/25/10)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 02, 2010, 04:03:18 AM
Hey 'Mato, your work lately has been awesome.  The time and effort you've been putting into these is really obvious in the details. :)
Title: Re: T0m@t0'5 5k1nw0rk: 3RR0R (11/25/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 11, 2010, 02:34:48 AM
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1056/glitchgc.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Reepicheep on December 11, 2010, 02:45:24 AM
Gorgeous work!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: daglob on December 11, 2010, 06:54:02 AM
 :blink:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Bloodshadow on December 11, 2010, 08:55:06 AM
 :blink:
Awesome dude! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on December 11, 2010, 02:17:03 PM
Fantastic work 'Mato! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Glitch Girl on December 11, 2010, 07:19:44 PM
Tomato, that looks GREAT!  I love how the face turned out.  Uniform looks perfect as well. 

It looks like I'm going to have to dig up my copy of FF at some point and get it running again just so I can try this out. 

Seriously, this is wonderful.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 12, 2010, 04:27:31 AM
Thanks GG, it means a lot to hear you say that... I put a lot of effort into doing this skin properly. It was a bit unnerving to do, honestly... This skin isn't a redesign or something, it's 100% old school classic Glitch Girl design. I did my very best to respect the design as much as possible. It sort of felt like going back and doing new versions of Renaissance paintings... sure, skinners now are much more skilled then we used to be (even new skinners can and have come in now doing a better job then the best of us did a few years ago... which is kind of depressing, honestly) but that doesn't negate the work put into the old stuff either.

Mk, so, with GG complete now, that means I've got 3 members of Electric Freedom ready to fend off the evil Randy Ripoff (Volt, GG, and Ink, in case anyone was wondering)... Now this might just be me, but it seems like Freedom Force has a 4 person limit, not a 3. Oddness.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: docdelorean88 on December 14, 2010, 08:13:30 PM
Hmmm....I do believe your right! :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 16, 2010, 10:31:17 PM
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2mgo8l2.jpg)

WIP on the skin for Teknos... sort of. See, I'm sick of having to redo all the banding every time I skin someone with it, so I'm just saying to heck with it. I'm making a full "line base" for my "TM" base meshes, so that I never have to do them again.

I should probably mention... I'm planning on releasing the base independently (probably be one of the first things I upload to my new page, heh), so that other skinners can just layer it on top of whatever base they're using. I figure it'll come in handy for costume details and for characters like Colossus.

Oh, and look at the chest for how it'll look finalized... I'm still working on the arms, so I haven't added the shadow in yet.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 16, 2010, 11:05:34 PM
Normally I wouldn't post again so soon if I wasn't already done, but I just finished a bit of detail work I wanted to show off.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/msolr5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Podmark on December 16, 2010, 11:23:43 PM
Blah, stop doing your very useful skinning thing and start prepping for you new web page :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 17, 2010, 12:18:23 AM
Blah, stop doing your very useful skinning thing and start prepping for you new web page :P

It's not my fault certain people have yet to send me the website templates. Maybe those individuals should factor that in before they start saying useless things to me.  :P

Got most of the upper body done already... I've got to do the thumbs and neck, then do the legs and shoes. My plan is to do what I can before 8 tonight (tis 7:15-ish now), post a preview, then finish whatever's left tomorrow after work.

Edit:
(http://i51.tinypic.com/xmrgup.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Podmark on December 17, 2010, 01:36:51 AM
It's not my fault certain people have yet to send me the website templates. Maybe those individuals should factor that in before they start saying useless things to me.  :P

Well maybe certain people didn't know that and just wanted to give you a hard time. And maybe certain other people need to send you that template.  :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Error Resolved (12/10/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 17, 2010, 01:48:55 AM
Certain people need to get YIM so that they can know what's going on with certain other people. All the cool members of He... I mean, certain other people already have it, bajezus.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Lined (12/16/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 17, 2010, 11:48:35 PM
Just a quick update for ya'll... the Line base is just about done: I've only got the soles of the shoes to do right now, but I'm so sick of looking at the thing I'm going to put it on hold. I've spent a huge chunk of the evening working on prepping my stuff for release/re-release... my current plan is to put all new projects (such as teknos) on hold temporarily while I get things prepped, as well as go back and finish off/release some of the characters that have been sitting on my HD for awhile now... like Fighter, Old School Cyclops, and Blue Lantern Tomato (not to mention everything I've done recently... Phoenix, Detourne, the FC variants, the Avatars for the Influx Mod, etc.) If anyone can think of anything I've done you want to see finished/released, let me know.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Lined (12/16/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 21, 2010, 01:50:52 AM
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1589/fighterp.jpg)
(http://www.newpowerinc.com/tomatofiles/other/images/tomato_lantern.jpg)

So yeah, I've been hard at work lately with getting all my completed or semi-completed stuff uploaded to New Power Inc. My hope is that by the time the new year hits, I'll be free of all the incomplete skins that have been nagging at me... I've more or less got the hugest chunk of legitimate updating done (all but the mainstream stuff is up and ready for DL, including the freshly completed Blue Lantern Tomato skin, seen above). I should have everyone but Fighter up sometime tomorrow morning if I'm not busy with RL stuff.

Fighter though... we'll see. I need to make some decisions as far as his weapons go... I'm already planning to make my own, but even setting aside my dream of Sword Chucks, I need to find a set of decent dual-sword animations... preferably ones which have the swords appearing and disappearing as he pulls them out (Like with Ren's Shining Knight, the animations I currently have him on)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Ghosts of Skins Past (12/20/10)
Post by: detourne_me on December 21, 2010, 04:10:15 AM
Can't wait to see what you've got in store Tomato!
also.... I'll have an amazing avatar soon!! *squeee*  (it's ok, i can squee like that because my av is a girl.... yeah thats the ticket.)

About fighter, and double sword animations... i don't know if Val's valkyrie is offlimites of its biped structure is too different,  but i always loved those animations.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Ghosts of Skins Past (12/20/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 21, 2010, 02:11:36 PM
... Det, I just wanted to let you know I both love you and want you dead right now. *goes off to fix some things so he can use Fighter on Val's biped*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Ghosts of Skins Past (12/20/10)
Post by: Tomato on December 24, 2010, 05:10:19 AM
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4470/fighter.jpg)

I. Like. SWORDS!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: Podmark on December 24, 2010, 05:31:27 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 30, 2010, 08:59:18 PM
Is that seriously what this looks like in CTool? Freaking WOW!!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: martialstorm on December 30, 2010, 11:29:23 PM
Great mesh Tom, this looks like it will be a lot of fun to play!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on December 31, 2010, 02:37:40 AM
Hi Tomato,

I really like the new mesh!  Has a nice animae feel to it.

Respectfully,
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: laughing paradox on January 01, 2011, 06:25:24 PM
I really like the last one. Is there any reflection on the skin?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: Tomato on January 01, 2011, 07:09:50 PM
not really... I added Refl to the swords, but it looked cheesy anywhere else... plus, harder to control the colors that way.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: BentonGrey on January 10, 2011, 07:19:43 AM
Ohh you crazy anime people....

Ha, nice work 'Mato.  The shading on that skin is really impressive.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: Tomato on January 15, 2011, 11:16:33 PM
Finally got around to begin skin work on the final member of the mod's "Electric Freedom" team, the armored hero Teknos.

(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3693/teknosf.jpg)
and a close-up of the face
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/45/tek2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Staff Chucks For Christmas (12/24/10)
Post by: Tomato on January 16, 2011, 06:22:20 PM
More progress. Probably finish the hair and maybe start on extras later today.

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4060/teknos.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 16, 2011, 07:49:38 PM
Looks good.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on January 16, 2011, 07:59:30 PM
Lookin good man. ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: martialstorm on January 17, 2011, 08:09:57 AM
Great texture and design Tomato :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: AfghanAnt on January 17, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
Oh nice.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: murs47 on January 17, 2011, 06:10:54 PM
That looks pretty sweet tom tom...very nice colors.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: Podmark on January 17, 2011, 06:25:54 PM
You've got a really interesting texture going on there. Is that reflection or skinning on the blue parts?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2011, 09:42:15 PM
You've got a really interesting texture going on there. Is that reflection or skinning on the blue parts?

Reflection. It's more or less the same technique as I use with Red Ant
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: UnkoMan on January 20, 2011, 03:49:11 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: Tomato on January 30, 2011, 12:57:43 AM
(http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/45/tek2.jpg)

Finished the facial areas. Yay.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: BentonGrey on January 30, 2011, 01:05:34 AM
Really nice work there, 'Mato.  I really like the detailing on the mask there.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 30, 2011, 01:22:36 AM
The hair is really well done as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: Podmark on January 30, 2011, 02:09:48 AM
Niiiice.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/16/11)
Post by: Tomato on January 30, 2011, 02:58:06 AM
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4060/teknos.jpg)

Almost done, still have the boot/gloves to do, but that won't take overly long.

Oh, BTW... someone PMed me about the possibility of moving Teknos over onto one of Gren's Iron Man meshes to take advantage of the boot jets and stuff. I meant to respond, but either it's back a few pages now or I accidentally deleted it, because I can't find it and I forgot who sent it.  :rolleyes:. I DID see it though, and I do plan on taking full advantage of Gren's IM extras... though I probably will only be using the boot jets and animations, not the weapons. Teknos won't use projectiles or anything of that nature... yet, anyway.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Blkcasanova247 on January 30, 2011, 01:23:54 PM
Excellent work there Monsieur Tomate. :thumbup: Any clipping with the chest harness?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: laughing paradox on January 30, 2011, 08:13:37 PM
Nice job... I like the details on the harness.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Tomato on February 01, 2011, 04:25:08 PM
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4060/teknos.jpg)

Almost done. Realized I missed some details on the feet, so I need to fiddle with it in max.  :banghead:

And to answer Cas' question... as far as I've been able to tell, there's no clipping on the harness. I made sure.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Podmark on February 01, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
That is one nice skin. The reflections are impressive.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Tomato on February 01, 2011, 08:20:02 PM
Aaaaand done

(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5540/teknostm.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: herodad1 on February 01, 2011, 09:17:14 PM
can i have him? :lol:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on February 02, 2011, 01:32:49 AM
Nice work Tomato!  Really like the way he turned out.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on February 02, 2011, 03:35:24 AM
He's very neat, 'Mato...Great work!

Dana
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 03, 2011, 01:21:09 AM
Really enjoyed watching the progression from start to finish.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: UnkoMan on February 04, 2011, 06:01:00 AM
Slick. Dig the way you did that hair. Everything else really pops, too.
Yeah, progression shots are always cool.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Dr.Volt on February 04, 2011, 07:35:08 PM
Like the eyes too.  Nice work man.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Tomato on August 25, 2011, 11:37:36 PM
Just a few skins crossing over from ToF (for those who hadn't seen them)

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3526/bush2i.jpg)
-this is a skin for the Influx mod, should it ever come about. I needed a president for Randy to kidnap.

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2944/wolverineau.jpg)
-bit of an update here (but not much... stalled on the boots). This was part of a project that kind of... got away from me. See, the idea was to prove that you actually CAN do movie versions of the X-men costumes without them being silly, despite what some people would claim.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Tomato on August 27, 2011, 12:57:42 AM
(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9999/wolverboot.jpg)

Finally got some of my mojo back... finished some of the work on the boots.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: BentonGrey on August 27, 2011, 01:05:31 AM
Neat idea 'Mato, nice work on the Wolverine skin there.  The face is particularly good.  I think the design needs....something, though...gee, aren't I helpful? :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Tomato on August 27, 2011, 01:20:21 AM
Neat idea 'Mato, nice work on the Wolverine skin there.  The face is particularly good.  I think the design needs....something, though...gee, aren't I helpful? :P

Oh, He's not even close to being done... I still have to do the arms and gloves, which I haven't even begun yet.

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9663/wolverinesketch.jpg)

-this is the original sktech I made, with closeups of the boots and gloves.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: ow_tiobe_sb on August 27, 2011, 02:22:21 AM
(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3526/bush2i.jpg)
-this is a skin for the Influx mod, should it ever come about. I needed a president for Randy to kidnap.

Please don't take it the wrong way, Tomato, when I note that that has to be the worst Barack Obama skin I've ever seen.

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Whirled Braker
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Tomato on August 27, 2011, 03:00:03 AM
Pfft, you should have seen my dubya skin. Much, much worse  :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: herodad1 on August 27, 2011, 04:03:48 AM
hey Mato, were you gonna release your Technos mesh?  really good job.  :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 16, 2011, 11:20:37 PM
*blows dust off of thread*

So, I'm still alive. here's a Wolverine update.

(http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/4038/wolverinecv.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: docdelorean88 on December 17, 2011, 06:46:03 AM
I was just thinking about this the other day! Im glad to see its coming along so nicely! Again sir, that face is absolutely incredible!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Blast from Freedom's Past (01/29/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 17, 2011, 05:35:05 PM
Image explosion NAOWZ! First up is my "official" completed image, the one most likely to end up on an icon or sommat.

(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5305/wolverineo.jpg)

Then, because I put a lot of detail into them and I want to show it off, close ups of the Gloves, Boots, and Boot Soles
(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/6058/wolverinegloves.jpg)(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5673/wolverineboots.jpg)(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4512/wolverinesoles.jpg)

Now, if you'll excuse me... I'm sure MLP is up on youtube by now.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Podmark on December 17, 2011, 06:23:31 PM
Very impressive Tomato, excellent work on the details, and the design is pretty cool as well. Hairy arms would seem more Wolverine like though.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 17, 2011, 06:34:19 PM
Very impressive Tomato, excellent work on the details, and the design is pretty cool as well. Hairy arms would seem more Wolverine like though.

Dangit! I knew I was forgetting something
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Artemis on December 18, 2011, 01:51:41 AM
Tactical and true to character, really well executed and top notch work all round! bravo!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 18, 2011, 04:22:36 AM
(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/3491/lolteaser.jpg)

Arms are fixed now.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 18, 2011, 07:21:00 AM
Haven't even gotten the costume design narrowed down yet, but here's what I have of Colossus' face skin (based on actor Daniel Cudmore) and metalic form (loosely based on the movie one)

(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1813/colossus.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 18, 2011, 04:25:21 PM
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8324/colossusd.jpg)

Base is done. now to get a grip on what I want the costume to actually look like  :rolleyes:

So, for those who don't know, this was and is part of an ongoing project... See, even though I can understand WHY the X-men films went with the black leather outfits, I've always been kind of disappointed that we never got true X-men movie costumes... especially now that we're finally seeing real, semi-comic-accurate costumes in just about every Marvel film. The idea that Wolverine's mask "can't be done realistically" is nonsense in light of the fact that Nite Owl's mask in Watchmen was pretty flippin close and no one seemed to have a problem with it.

So, while ToF was still going, I started this project up. But it's kind of died off, both because of my own burnout (Wolverine's boots were a NIGHTMARE) and because ToF is now more or less defunct. However, I thought I'd open the floor up now that Wolverine is done. Would anyone else be interested in contributing to a proper X-men movie universe, even if it's just something simple like a set of micros?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Podmark on December 18, 2011, 04:27:19 PM
Looking very good. You're quite good at getting the likeness of the actors and blending it with your own skinning.
Curious to see what you do with the costume.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 18, 2011, 07:36:22 PM
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4811/colossust.jpg)

So, I tried a few different ways of trying to get the shirt to look more like his classic duds, with the yellow on the inside of the red. However, my attempts to do it on paper didn't really work that well, either being too much yellow (as it would have been if I'd tried to just flip the colors of Wolverine's shirt) or didn't fit his personality (one attempt had him with the vest unzipped in a casual fashion... that's more something I'd see James do, not Piotr). Beyond that too, I felt like having 20,000 different designs for the costumes kinda defeats the point of having them wear a uniform... Sure, there can be little things that distinguish them (wolverine not tucking in his shirt, sleeves length, etc.) but I want it to feel like this is something they're more or less using the same basic design pattern for.

So yeah, I went with the lazy option. Still, it looks just fine to me  :P. Got the boots, belt, and wristbands left to skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Figure Fan on December 19, 2011, 05:05:47 AM
I actually think that this design looks really cool, despite being more simplistic. The details at the knees really do remind me of his knee pads/boots from the comics. I like the face too.

Maybe you could put a subtle pattern in the metal skin to make the overall design more unique (if you're still wanting to go that route)? In X2 he sort of had a metallic muscled look going on with lots of little lines.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 19, 2011, 05:17:27 AM
Er... I did skin the lines from the film in. It may not be as obvious from that shot because it's further away, but the second preview was just to showcase them.

Either way, this one shows it better

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7103/colossusv.jpg)

I don't plan on going nearly as detailed with Colossus as with Wolverine, at least not overall. Whereas I can see Wolverine wearing biker gloves and combat boots, I feel like Piotr would be more basic... simple black boots, a set of simple wristbands (the type you'd see someone wear to the gym), and more or less the standard sleeveless uniform.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Figure Fan on December 19, 2011, 06:49:37 AM
Oh I see it now. I thought that was the reflection layer acting goofy in a resized photo or something.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 20, 2011, 12:10:59 AM
Very nice 'Mato!  The face work on both Wolverine and Colossus is extremely impressive.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Hey, Bub (12/17/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 20, 2011, 05:04:36 AM
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3056/colossusj.jpg)

Almost done already (Boots left). So yeah, Wolverine took me forever, but Colossus might be done in under a week? Grah! No sense.

Edit: 2 days? Really? Grah. Wevs.

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6017/colossusy.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Mystik on December 20, 2011, 07:32:29 PM
very nice :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: are you doin a team or just those 2?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 20, 2011, 10:16:29 PM
At this point... I don't know. See, this is something I set up to try and collaborate with the rest of the FF community, even going so far as offering to release my base and give additional help (face skins, the costume templates I made for Wolverine, etc.) to anyone who was willing to skin at least one character (I'm even open to people just doing their own sketches/pictures/micros/whatever). But there hasn't really been anyone interested, so at this point I feel like I'm doing these just for myself... which is fine, but it does kill part of the motivation for continuing to do new characters.

We'll see. I'm officially on leave as of tomorrow morning, so I might use some extra time to get one or two more characters in.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: detourne_me on December 21, 2011, 05:05:44 PM
Amazing work Tomato!  Love your designs, and the likeness to the actors is great.
You've got me thinking about a Nightcrawler done in that vein.
Same uniform design, but I don't know if it would be better with Red as the main colour and black on the sides or vice versa, and obviously, barefeet instead of boots, maybe knee-length like bike shorts for him, to balance with the bare arms.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Figure Fan on December 22, 2011, 04:44:11 AM
Nightcrawler and Cyclops would be cool to see, or maybe even some of the X-women like Storm or Phoenix. Colossus turned out super cool.

I redesigned the X-Men movie uniforms back in late 2004 but never created skins for them. They were slightly similar to these, but much less practical with an ornate X design worked into the whole body (like the Alex Ross movie designs). However, I found that purple worked great as a uniform color for Nightcrawler and set him apart from Colossus and Storm who already had so much red and black (respectively).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 22, 2011, 07:12:54 PM
Really? I'd be interested to see them. Might give me some neat ideas. (PM them tho, no sense cluttering the thread)

I might have something to show you guys later on... working on the mapping for a new mesh piece.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: AfghanAnt on December 22, 2011, 09:30:30 PM
At this point... I don't know. See, this is something I set up to try and collaborate with the rest of the FF community, even going so far as offering to release my base and give additional help (face skins, the costume templates I made for Wolverine, etc.) to anyone who was willing to skin at least one character (I'm even open to people just doing their own sketches/pictures/micros/whatever). But there hasn't really been anyone interested, so at this point I feel like I'm doing these just for myself... which is fine, but it does kill part of the motivation for continuing to do new characters.

We'll see. I'm officially on leave as of tomorrow morning, so I might use some extra time to get one or two more characters in.

I might give Psylocke a go. Great work on both of these 'Mato. Especially Pete.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Figure Fan on December 23, 2011, 12:22:06 AM
Really? I'd be interested to see them. Might give me some neat ideas. (PM them tho, no sense cluttering the thread)

I might have something to show you guys later on... working on the mapping for a new mesh piece.

I'll have to sort through my old art. If I can find them, I'll scan them in and PM you.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 23, 2011, 01:10:11 PM
@AA and FF... Awesome sauce. Can't wait to see what you guys have/will come up with!

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9903/cyclopsl.jpg)

Ignore the color scheme for the moment (using primaries to work on making a skin base for the costumes... part of the reason I'm specifically doing Cyclops next is because he's the type of person who would wear the full "standard" uniform)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: cmdrkoenig67 on December 23, 2011, 04:35:48 PM
You're X-Men skins are coming out great, T!  It's too bad they didn't go this route in the movies.

Dana
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 23, 2011, 07:24:08 PM
These are coming out great 'Mato! Glad to see you pursuing these.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Podmark on December 24, 2011, 12:01:36 AM
Sweet, Cyclops is my favorite X-Man. You got him right he's totally type to wear the standard uniform.
Looking forward to the final skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 24, 2011, 12:49:08 AM
(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/677/cyclopsr.jpg)

Still playing with palettes here... Not sure whether I like the shade of yellow I have (I'm trying to evoke the FC uniforms, but I feel like it's almost too dark and gray) and I'm considering changing the side colors to blue as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 24, 2011, 03:15:28 AM
My only suggestion would be a stronger contrast between the yellow and blue (maybe a lighter yellow?), otherwise, it looks pretty solid to me.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Figure Fan on December 24, 2011, 07:21:51 AM
My only suggestion would be a stronger contrast between the yellow and blue (maybe a lighter yellow?), otherwise, it looks pretty solid to me.

I actually really like the modern, neutral yellow. Cyclops looks totally awesome so far.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Tomato on December 24, 2011, 02:18:42 PM
(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/1508/cyclopsd.jpg)

Fiddled with the palette some more, settled on this for the moment. Tried to make the yellow slightly more saturated without being overly strong (Again, the idea is to match the First Class colors). I decided to make the underarm area black, in part because the gloves and boots already were going to be the same color (again, pulling from FC with the motif)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: UnkoMan on December 27, 2011, 05:51:43 PM
I dig it like that. It looks more realistic. Or, like comics that want to be "realisitic" and use muted colour tones, anyway.

But I dig it. And the Colossus and Wolverine ones are really well done, too. It's a pretty cool uniform. I could see them wearing something like that.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: XStream on January 03, 2012, 01:29:12 AM
Holy cow, Tomato! (What an odd statement....) Those look great.  I know that most people like the full cap Cyclops, but I like that you went with the hair being exposed. Definitely like the newest one. The color is great.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: murs47 on January 17, 2012, 01:42:56 AM
What the heck tom-tom!? Where is the Superman skin? Such a deceiving title. Quality Colossus and Slim.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2012, 03:01:48 AM
Holy cow, Tomato! (What an odd statement....) Those look great.  I know that most people like the full cap Cyclops, but I like that you went with the hair being exposed. Definitely like the newest one. The color is great.

I tend to prefer the cap in the comics, but I don't think I'd like it as much in a movie... it's hard to pull off masks like that to begin with, and his visor does a pretty good job of obscuring his identity anyway. The fact that he has brown hair means absolutely nothing to anyone.

Finally back to work on this, BTW. Yayz.

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8366/cyclops.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Man of Steel (12/20/11)
Post by: Tomato on February 03, 2012, 11:02:42 PM
I'm still working on this, so I'll hold off doing a better preview, but I've been working on the face skin and I just checked how he looks with the visor on.

(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1508/cyclopsd.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Tomato on February 04, 2012, 12:12:10 AM
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8366/cyclops.jpg)

Cyclops is done, finally. Be happy, yo.

As much as I like the idea of this project, I'm gonna let the X-men movie thing go for awhile... maybe if something happens to get my interest up I'll pick it up later, but right now it's just become a drain to my energy. I had to begin another skin earlier this week (expect previews of that laterz) just to get enough mojo to finish Cyclops.

Still, I'm not unhappy with it. I really like how the face came out.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Podmark on February 04, 2012, 12:49:02 AM
Looks great. The face seems very realistic, is it based on someone?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Tomato on February 04, 2012, 01:17:38 AM
...



Pod... are you serious? How could you not... I don't... UGH!


*takes a step back, takes a deep breath, mentally recites brony creed*

Cyclops, like ALL of my movie X-men redesigns, is intended to depict the actor (or one of the actors) who portrayed him in the X-men films. In this case, the actor depicted is James Marsden, who played Cyclops in all of the original 3 movies.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Podmark on February 04, 2012, 02:00:52 AM
Maybe it's been too long since I last saw the movies, don't really recognize him.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Helix on February 04, 2012, 02:10:21 AM
Tomato - that is a seriously awesome skin! Great job, man!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: naitvalis on February 04, 2012, 07:27:16 AM
stunning quality work tomato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: juancho on February 04, 2012, 10:43:14 AM
Matů, its simply brillant to see how much you have grown as a skiner, mesher and artist. Im so glad we get to see all this awesomeness :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Tomato on February 04, 2012, 12:05:39 PM
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8366/cyclops.jpg)

Cyclops is done, finally. Be happy, yo.

As much as I like the idea of this project, I'm gonna let the X-men movie thing go for awhile... maybe if something happens to get my interest up I'll pick it up later, but right now it's just become a drain to my energy. I had to begin another skin earlier this week (expect previews of that laterz) just to get enough mojo to finish Cyclops.

Still, I'm not unhappy with it. I really like how the face came out.

Just quoting this for convenience... I know it annoys me having to go back a page all the time.

@Podmark- Sorry for snapping at you a bit... though truthfully I almost stabbed you, so really, you kinda got off easy even then. Your timing could not have been worse though, because prem (yes, that one) sent me a video of teenagers being dumb/ignorant to torture me, and I'd only just given up on it when I saw your post. That said, I'm not so much surprised you didn't recognize Marsden (he's fairly average looking, and the visor hides his face a lot in the films), but that you didn't make the connection waaaaaaay back with Wolverine, who is CLEARLY based on Hugh Jackman.

@Juancho- I AM all that, and a bag of BBQ chips.

Now, whenever you guys get done goggling at my skin, you need to goggle at TUE's as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Previsionary on February 04, 2012, 01:43:24 PM
whut? uh uh! oh no. Lis'n, skillet, don't be blaming me or my twin for your melodrama. That's you all day, e'er'day. And if you know what's good for you, you'll stop snappin' on Pod. I ain't gone have it. He's MY rival. Know that.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Podmark on February 04, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
Yeah in hindsight it's a really dumb question. But I was tired and wasn't thinking.
Eitherway, it's a great face...whoever he is :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Outcast on February 05, 2012, 03:05:37 PM
Everything looks great. Movie skins looks very realistic. :kingbethumbup
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Helix on February 06, 2012, 05:35:49 AM
I always get geeked up about new Cyclops skins and meshes..and I can't wait to get my hands on this one. Cyclops is one of my favorites even though the physics behind his power is ridiculous. I mean, let's face it, even if he could shoot "force blasts" out of his eyeballs, the reciprocal force would blow his head clean off his shoulders in the opposite direction. But I digress...

Fantastic skin, Tomato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 06, 2012, 11:57:37 PM
Cyclops came out great, but I think Colossus is my favorite.

Now, off to TUE's thread.  :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Tomato on February 12, 2012, 07:25:08 PM
I was going to save the first preview of this one for when I posted his Pony on Tuesday, but... I'm really happy with the face.

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2249/bigdaddym.jpg)

Would you believe this started off as a photoskin?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE! (02/03/11)
Post by: Podmark on February 12, 2012, 07:27:15 PM
It is an amazing face, right down to the beard. Just excellent.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: murs47 on February 12, 2012, 11:46:48 PM
Wowwy tom tom! You're sprouting so much!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: laughing paradox on February 13, 2012, 12:07:01 AM
Great face there. C'est superbe.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on February 13, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Outcast on February 13, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Really impressive facework Tomato. I also like the rock like texture with magma? effects you've got going on his right side. If only House Quake can see this, I'm pretty sure he'll love it.:)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Figure Fan on February 13, 2012, 07:48:39 PM
That face.. wow :blink:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Helix on February 13, 2012, 10:40:50 PM
Man, 'Mato! That face is just SICK (incredible)!!! I'll bet you could even make my ugly mug look pretty.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 13, 2012, 11:23:17 PM
Someone has some mad skills...nice facial work 'Mato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: The Hitman on February 14, 2012, 01:50:38 PM
FanTASTIC work on HQ, 'Mato! Really digging the detail on the divide between the normal/crackley sides. And the face is perfect, man!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: UnkoMan on February 15, 2012, 04:50:20 PM
Dang! I have to agree with everybody about the face.
I really wanted to cause a ruckus, too.

Actually, I was going to say... should a chubby fella have abs like that? But then I saw this on the internet:
http://www.thehotglove.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/abs.jpg
So, nevermind.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Kommando on February 15, 2012, 05:00:20 PM
As I recall, HQs avatar is supposed to be built like a barrel, not like he "ate one too many burgers" I remember the quote. Very cool skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Tomato on February 15, 2012, 06:21:04 PM
Well, either way, it's not completed... the lined sections are on the sides, so I didn't bother to redo the abs for that layer.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: UnkoMan on February 16, 2012, 10:18:05 PM
I should have figured. I'm sure it will look fine whatever you do, Tomato.

Built like a barrel, yeah. Earth 2 Superman. Farmer body. Golden age Captain Marvel. That's sort of what I was going with Unko Man, too. To be honest, I think lots of super heroes have too well defined abs these days, but that is just a personal preference (because I don't like drawing them).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Tomato on February 16, 2012, 10:26:13 PM
I'll put it this way... I haven't sat down and worked on it (RL and all... going home for a 3 day weekend to pick up/drop off stuff.) but my rough plan right now is to do kind of a middle ground... not hardcore 6 pack abs like for most heroes, but the suggestion of at least some muscle even on the torso. HQ's av has always been described to me as a football player type of build: Heavyset, but with muscles too.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Bloodshadow on February 19, 2012, 04:39:44 AM
Very cool Tomato :thumbup:
Its good to see the big guy getting some love,the face is amazing and I love the stone texture,can't wait to see him finished.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Sledgehammer on February 27, 2012, 06:26:06 AM
The care and detail you put into those faces is astonishing, really.

Going back to your X-Men skins, you completely brought Jackman, Cudmore and Marsden into Freedom Force. They are as real as you can get.

Congratulations is the least I can say.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: billdamn22 on February 28, 2012, 03:23:27 AM
Excellent job on HQ. I have always been a huge fan of your avatar skins. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 04, 2012, 04:32:41 AM
... I blame Naitvalis for this.

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4149/johnnyzg.png)

Now, before anyone attacks me, two things:

-This doesn't mean I'm not going to do HQ. I just had a goofy idea for doing JQ's face, and he only took all of a few hours from the "this seems like a good idea" conceptual stage to finish.
-This also doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to do the rest of the CSA, or even Modern JQ. As I said, this whole thing was the result of a very goofy idea for photoskinning JQ's action figure (That's right, that face is from an ACTION FIGURE. I went there beaches.) I would LIKE to do other CSA members (to my knowledge, the whole team has never been done properly despite Renegade and Vertex doing meshes for most of them. Oddness) but we'll see.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Big Daddy Quake (02/12/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 04, 2012, 04:50:06 AM
... I blame Naitvalis for this.

(http://)

Now, before anyone attacks me, two things:

-This doesn't mean I'm not going to do HQ. I just had a goofy idea for doing JQ's face, and he only took all of a few hours from the "this seems like a good idea" conceptual stage to finish.
-This also doesn't mean I'm necessarily going to do the rest of the CSA, or even Modern JQ. As I said, this whole thing was the result of a very goofy idea for photoskinning JQ's action figure (That's right, that face is from an ACTION FIGURE. I went there beaches.) I would LIKE to do other CSA members (to my knowledge, the whole team has never been done properly despite Renegade and Vertex doing meshes for most of them. Oddness) but we'll see.

Sorry 'Mato, the image is not included in your post.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 04, 2012, 04:52:42 AM
fixded
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 04, 2012, 04:56:51 AM
I'll only attack if I don't see the rest of the team get made.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Podmark on March 04, 2012, 05:56:31 AM
Looks great. Very impressed with your reds.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: martialstorm on March 04, 2012, 08:23:44 AM
Brilliant JQ Tomato, I picked up that CSA action figure pack over Christmas. I've loved all your XMen skins as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: naitvalis on March 04, 2012, 08:38:13 AM
what a great job  Tomato :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:! i loooove this JQ! and i wait impatient to grab this awesome skin!
(when i say impatient i mean very impatient... :banghead:)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 04, 2012, 04:25:52 PM
what a great job  Tomato :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:! i loooove this JQ! and i wait impatient to grab this awesome skin!
(when i say impatient i mean very impatient... :banghead:)


Go tort... talk to AA. I'm waiting on him to finish something before I start releasing stuff.

Brilliant JQ Tomato, I picked up that CSA action figure pack over Christmas. I've loved all your XMen skins as well.

That's the same time I got mine! CSA pack FTW!

I'll only attack if I don't see the rest of the team get made.

Then hopefully you'll be waiting a bit, because...

(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/727/owlman.png)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Bloodshadow on March 04, 2012, 10:11:49 PM
JQ looks amazing Tomato,sweet skin :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: spydermann93 on March 04, 2012, 10:21:25 PM
Fantastic work, Tomato!

Your skins always astound me. :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: AfghanAnt on March 04, 2012, 10:59:15 PM
So are you mixing old with new? Either way great skins and I can't wait for Owlman.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 04, 2012, 11:29:53 PM
For now, yes. I plan on doing the counterparts for Wally, Kyle, and John later, but these first five skins are based on this set (http://www.itsalltrue.net/?p=14250) of action figures, with modern versions of Owlman, Ultraman, and Superwoman mixed with the original Power Ring and Johnny Quick (presumably to match the returns of Hal and Barry respectfully).

As for the old versions of the big 3... no.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 05, 2012, 12:48:27 AM
(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/9029/owlman.jpg)

-That helmet... took longer to skin... than Johnny Quick's whole skin did.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Helix on March 05, 2012, 08:16:13 AM
But it looks frickin' SWEET!!! Man, I am glad to see you skinning mainstream characters! It's about time!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: juancho on March 05, 2012, 09:50:33 AM
oh I remeber when I did the standard skin for the owlman mesh. It was kind of time consuming hehehe.
Great work so far 'mato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: naitvalis on March 05, 2012, 02:22:14 PM
*Naitvalis clap his hands at the rhythm of:*
Owlman, Owlman, Owlman, Owlman...wait i mean...Superwoman, Superwoman, Superwoman  :lol: !
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 05, 2012, 04:55:11 PM
oh I remeber when I did the standard skin for the owlman mesh. It was kind of time consuming hehehe.
Great work so far 'mato!

Yeah, he's definately not the easiest thing I've ever skinned. Hoping the rest goes a little smoother.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 06, 2012, 03:39:31 AM
(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/9029/owlman.jpg)

-That helmet... took longer to skin... than Johnny Quick's whole skin did.

The effort really shows, looks good 'Mato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 06, 2012, 03:55:23 AM
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9029/owlman.jpg)

-All that and still less effort than I put into the helmet. Did I mention the helmet is a Murs level beach to skin?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Helix on March 06, 2012, 04:00:33 AM
Man, that is niiiice. That suit looks like it's made of polished quartz. The helmet needs a little work, though.

JUST KIDDING!!! It's phenomenal!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 06, 2012, 04:28:51 AM
Any chance of a release on these 'Mato?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 06, 2012, 04:57:56 AM
Eventually, sure. The CSA will have to wait until I do at least the core 5 though.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Podmark on March 06, 2012, 11:19:17 PM
These are coming out great! Awesome faces. Any pics of the toys you based that on?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Bloodshadow on March 06, 2012, 11:36:40 PM
Sweet Owlman Tomato,Nice job on the helmet,it looks great!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 06, 2012, 11:44:41 PM
These are coming out great! Awesome faces. Any pics of the toys you based that on?

http://www.itsalltrue.net/?p=14250
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Podmark on March 06, 2012, 11:59:30 PM
These are coming out great! Awesome faces. Any pics of the toys you based that on?

http://www.itsalltrue.net/?p=14250

Thanks. Nice figures, love the Owlman.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 07, 2012, 02:42:41 AM
Yeah, it's probably my favorite DCUC set they've done. It tortured me too, because I had to pass it up for the first month or so it was out (I forget exactly WHY now, I think it had to do with it being almost Christmas and the $60+ price tag it had) and every time I'd be up at wall mart I'd pass the thing and I'd have to force myself to keep going before my will broke. But I got it for Christmas (I have to tell my parents not to get me video games anymore, because they keep getting ones they think I'm into... at least with action figures even if I don't like a character I can sell it or use it as fodder)

But anyway, back to skins:

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9029/owlman.jpg)

Ultraman's likely the next to be skinned, but I'm gonna take a minute to skope/mesh everyone else first... I'm not happy with the meshes I was able to find for Power Ring or Superwoman for various reasons, so I'm off to do my own.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 07, 2012, 02:50:57 AM
Owlman looks great, can't wait for the rest.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 07, 2012, 05:15:17 AM
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/6175/teaserca.jpg)

Teaser pic now that the meshes are all set.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 07, 2012, 06:18:39 AM
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6162/ultraman.jpg)

... It's 1 am here and I'm still working on these. Holy Celestia.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Klauser on March 07, 2012, 12:31:36 PM
Wow!

:thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: AfghanAnt on March 07, 2012, 01:32:23 PM
Wow! You are really cranking these out. I am really enjoying seeing these a lot. I can't wait to get them.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 07, 2012, 04:21:39 PM
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6162/ultraman.jpg)

Just needs hair now. Debating on whether to keep the spitcurl, thoughts?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: naitvalis on March 07, 2012, 06:11:37 PM
perfect! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 07, 2012, 06:59:00 PM
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9345/ultramans.jpg)

Done
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 07, 2012, 07:08:19 PM
The CSA is one of my favorite groups, I'm loving this 'Mato. Ultraman looks as good as the other two.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: UnkoMan on March 07, 2012, 10:10:32 PM
Golly, look at you go...
I know he's not in the preview pic, but I wonder if you've stumbled on an Aquaman you like? And, if so, will you be skinning him?

PS: Did you add extra little bits where the cape attaches to Ultraman?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 07, 2012, 10:51:59 PM
I have a rough idea of which designs I like for the moment, but as I said there, nothing's final until the current LC batch is done, which may not be for a few months yet. That, and I figure there's enough existing CSA to keep me busy for a bit... analogues of Kyle, John and Wally, not to mention J'edd J'arkus (how in hell I'll even be skoping that is a mystery) and some of the other existing JL counterparts, and that's IF I don't get bored with it before then.

Not saying it won't happen, because it very well might, but it's way too early for me to feel comfortable speculating. The sad truth is, much of my recent free time is more or less the result of me losing my current job(being discharged, but still technically AD for a bit longer), so... yeah, gonna be be busy job hunting in a few weeks. Fuuuuuuun.

Edit: Forgot to mention... I didn't add anything to the cape, the mesh is Ren's Ultraman mesh
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Podmark on March 08, 2012, 04:45:30 AM
Wow, great seeing so many skins from you Tomato. Ultraman looks perfect.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 08, 2012, 05:17:07 AM
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2523/superwoman.jpg)

Based around Afghan Ant's Wonderful Wonder Woman skope.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 09, 2012, 01:32:15 AM
I like the purple highlights that you worked into her, nice touch.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 09, 2012, 02:46:13 AM
... Well, I thought I'd posted this hours ago, but I didn't actually double check the thread until I was waiting to go out with some friends... and between the several hour gap and a few beers, I don't even remember what I was gonna say about the facework. Something about how in this case I thought the face on the figure was a bit generic so I tried to go closer to Quitely's work but since I typically hate everything connected to said artist it's admittedly a halfhearted effort. That style is more AA's field than mine. Something like that *shrug*

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2523/superwoman.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Helix on March 09, 2012, 02:56:16 AM
Tomato,

Once again you have created a magnificent skin! I can't wait 'til you let us play with them.

Please understand that I mean no disrespect at all when I say that the presence of a highlight on the bottom edges of her breasts doesn't look right and the lighting on the top of her breasts needs to be more graduated. I feel truly awkward offering up any criticism at all to someone at your skill level, but I hope you can appreciate my critique. If not, I will gladly shut up. It's a freaking beautiful skin, man!

Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 09, 2012, 04:20:10 AM
Not at all. The simple fact is, the base skin I'm using for Superwoman is intended for my own TM meshes, which is mapped a bit different around the chest area than Gren's. It's causing some pieces to be out of place.

I will mention though, those aren't highlights on the bottom of the breasts... they're positioned a bit too high, but that's actually supposed to be a highlight at the bottom edge of the rib cage, about where the diaphragm is. Compare it to Ultraman's shading below the pectoral muscles.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 09, 2012, 05:11:46 AM
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5889/superwomanr.jpg)

Any better?  :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: AfghanAnt on March 09, 2012, 05:21:47 AM
I love the face. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: naitvalis on March 09, 2012, 06:09:20 AM
AAAAAmazing!!! please tell me you made a version for  :ff: of that Superwoman when you release them.
Otherwise i have the telephone number of the Pizza-man, he always need fresh tomatos...this is not a  threat just a fact  :rolleyes:.
(i don't ask for the others because i think the meshs you used are already all compatible).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 09, 2012, 07:46:54 AM
Both Superwoman and Power Ring were made from pre-existing skopes that were FFv3R exclusive before I got a hold of them, so the modifications I've made since have had to be ffv3r exclusive as well.








Still, I wouldn't call your pizza man just yet... >D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on March 09, 2012, 02:53:50 PM
cant believe i missed all of these. seriuosly sweet stuffage.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Helix on March 09, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
Yup. Sho 'nuff. That is indeed the ribcage. Sorry, I apparently need to have my visual acuity checked.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 09, 2012, 11:22:52 PM
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/161/superwomane.jpg)

Aaaaaand DONE! Just in time too... I may not be any proper state to make skins after tomorrow. It might be a day or so before I even start skinning Power Ring, as I'm likely to be overwhelmed by the EPIC AMMOUNTS OF AWESOME on television to do much of anything tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 10, 2012, 12:10:25 AM
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/161/superwomane.jpg)

Aaaaaand DONE! Just in time too... I may not be any proper state to make skins after tomorrow. It might be a day or so before I even start skinning Power Ring, as I'm likely to be overwhelmed by the EPIC AMMOUNTS OF AWESOME on television to do much of anything tomorrow.

I didn't know that I was going to be on TV tomorrow... :P

Superwoman looks fantastic, can't wait to see Power Ring.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: laughing paradox on March 10, 2012, 02:06:59 AM
Really great stuff. Love the CSA.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 10, 2012, 04:25:13 AM
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7469/powerring.jpg)

went ahead and started work before tomorrow hits.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 10, 2012, 04:30:27 AM
Nice start 'Mato, which mesh did you decide to use as a base for your skope?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 10, 2012, 05:02:38 AM
the main mesh is Male_Basic_TM, but it's a Hodge-podge of pieces from the original Renegade Power Ring, Revenant/Casanova's Hal Jordan Rebirth skope, and my base mesh.

Edit: I'm going to take pity on poor naitvalis (who no longer has a pizza man  :cool: ) and add that both Superwoman and Power Ring have been subjected to some powerful Tomato magic, and are now  :ff: compatible. You're welcome.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: naitvalis on March 10, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
gooood neeeeeews!!!! thank you Tomato!!!  :thumbup:
see? you are good vegetable after all!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Podmark on March 10, 2012, 05:05:32 PM
These are flat out awesome Tomato! It's great to see you skinning so much.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on March 10, 2012, 06:51:52 PM
Great job Tomato! I really like your take on the CSA.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: UnfluffyBunny on March 12, 2012, 03:11:21 PM
awesome work, the erm... chest fix to superwoman works well, was coming across kinda 2D before, once you finish up power ring you should do a composite to show em all off together, would be cool to see an echo of them against your figures too
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: martialstorm on March 13, 2012, 09:25:11 AM
Loving all of the CSA Tomato, your use of colour is exceptional!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 13, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
You guys might want to check this out (http://tomatoisjp.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on March 13, 2012, 08:10:41 PM
awesome work, the erm... chest fix to superwoman works well, was coming across kinda 2D before, once you finish up power ring you should do a composite to show em all off together, would be cool to see an echo of them against your figures too

that woudl be cool.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 17, 2012, 11:11:29 PM
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7469/powerring.jpg)

slowed down now that life has gotten in the way, but wevs. Enjoy an update (and btw, that logo glow from the revenant/casanova skope? Set it up to come and go with the aura) until I wrap my brain around the idea of power ring having a lantern battery and finally finish this off.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 17, 2012, 11:39:15 PM
 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: spydermann93 on March 18, 2012, 01:53:59 AM
(http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/jawdrop1.gif)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 18, 2012, 10:02:15 AM
Since you all demanded it, I'm starting composites of my CSA figures with their FF counterparts (in spoiler tags so as to not dominate the thread with their size  :blink:). I was just gonna do one big one with the teams, but I just couldn't get it to look right with the figures so... individual shots.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: naitvalis on March 18, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
heeeey its like that roger rabbit movie !!
great works!

(ps: power ring is aaaaammmmmaaaaazzzzziiiiing!!! :thumbup:)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: martialstorm on March 18, 2012, 11:42:43 AM
Great comparisons with the action figures and I love the Power Ring!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 20, 2012, 01:16:31 AM
Before I get right down to showing off the final few preview pics of Power Ring (That's right, he's done beaches!) I want to take a moment to apologize to Renegade... I've been bemoaning the fact that I had to skin this stupid lantern battery that I thought he'd made up just so the PR meshes could use the lantern area and power animations already in place. But as it turns out, there actually IS a lantern battery for Power Ring, and the pre-crisis character even uses it at one point to help the CSA escape or something. So yeah, what it all boils down to is that I'm a moron for whining about something that's 100% legitimate.

But anyway, here are some screens of Power Ring's lantern with and without lighting effect (oh and before anyone asks, the black background is from Ink's SC... I've found it useful in previewing effects)

(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7469/powerring.jpg)(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/372/powerring2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 20, 2012, 01:39:49 AM
The whole team has turned out just really effing sweet. Just WoW!!!

That said, what is "the black background is from Ink's SC"?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 20, 2012, 10:42:39 AM
When Ink created his super cracker mesh, he included this black box that doesn't actually show up in game, but which I've found useful for showing off effects.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 20, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/42/crimesyndicateprev.jpg)

Gonna start working toward getting this all zipped up after breakfast.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: murs47 on March 20, 2012, 01:35:49 PM
Tom tom, im massively proud of you. This is awesome work/art! The details are magnificent! Even though it's the simplest one in terms of design, Power Ring is my absolute favorite of the bunch. Well played old friend, well played.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: TonmaFan on March 20, 2012, 02:02:21 PM
Gooooorgeous. O_O I hope there's an FF1-compatible collection too.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 20, 2012, 03:00:47 PM
Tom tom, im massively proud of you. This is awesome work/art! The details are magnificent! Even though it's the simplest one in terms of design, Power Ring is my absolute favorite of the bunch. Well played old friend, well played.

Ummm... really? Personally, I think I put more work into his costume on it's own than I did for Johnny or Ultraman. Between that and all the extras on the guy, about the only one more complex was Owlman.

Gooooorgeous. O_O I hope there's an FF1-compatible collection too.

...

the main mesh is Male_Basic_TM, but it's a Hodge-podge of pieces from the original Renegade Power Ring, Revenant/Casanova's Hal Jordan Rebirth skope, and my base mesh.

Edit: I'm going to take pity on poor naitvalis (who no longer has a pizza man  :cool: ) and add that both Superwoman and Power Ring have been subjected to some powerful Tomato magic, and are now  :ff: compatible. You're welcome.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 20, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
Well, that was more tedious than I remembered it being. Took me about as long to clean up, make portraits, and zip as it did to do PR's battery.

Anyway, just so you guys are aware, one of the main reasons I haven't uploaded anything lately is that I'm kinda-sorta in the process of moving my stuff elsewhere. However, I feel as though if I don't release this one, you'll all tear me limb from limb. File's uploaded to mediafire already, link's up on my tumblr page (shameless self-promotion ftw!). And since you're on there anyway, go ahead and ask a question or two, I won't bite.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: AfghanAnt on March 20, 2012, 06:38:04 PM
I have to agree with Murs here. Power Ring is a stunner. How did you manage to get the FFVTR lighting effect in FF (if you in fact did so)?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 20, 2012, 06:48:43 PM
I have to agree with Murs here. Power Ring is a stunner. How did you manage to get the FFVTR lighting effect in FF (if you in fact did so)?

It's actually not an effect in the strictest sense... in the case of the GL mesh Cas sent me (which I believe Revenant actually skoped together) the ring, logo, and lantern effects are static pieces as opposed to particle effects.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Figure Fan on March 20, 2012, 07:15:37 PM
These skins look awesome, Tomato. Power Ring is my favorite.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: BentonGrey on March 20, 2012, 10:50:37 PM
Wow, how have I managed to miss this?!  'Mato, my friend, these are just plain beautiful.  These are all fantastic skins, and now you've given me another of those problems I love to have....I've got to face the choice of changing out the CSA skins in the DCUG!  Anyway, all of those skins are great, but I have to agree with some of the others here, Power Ring is just absolutely my favorite.  He's got a very plain design, definitely the least interesting of all of these guys, and yet you've managed to give him all these little details, most especially with his face, that really make him stand out.  Ultraman's face is great, but PR's is just plain amazing.  What fantastic work 'Mato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 20, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Wow, how have I managed to miss this?!  'Mato, my friend, these are just plain beautiful.  These are all fantastic skins, and now you've given me another of those problems I love to have....I've got to face the choice of changing out the CSA skins in the DCUG!  Anyway, all of those skins are great, but I have to agree with some of the others here, Power Ring is just absolutely my favorite.  He's got a very plain design, definitely the least interesting of all of these guys, and yet you've managed to give him all these little details, most especially with his face, that really make him stand out.  Ultraman's face is great, but PR's is just plain amazing.  What fantastic work 'Mato!

Pfft, don't lie Benton... of course you're going to change out the CSA for DCUG. We both know I'm that awesome.

I'm afraid I may have given the wrong impression with my statements earlier... Power Ring is probably my favorite of the skins so far (I say so far because, as I stated, I do intend on doing other CSA members... eventually). I put a lot of effort into getting his basic look down, and I agree that it does show through... though to be fair, that could be the glow-in-the-dark neon green I used for sections of his costume  :P. I just take issue with his being the most simple costume, as neither Johnny nor Ultraman are exactly intricate.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: JKCarrier on March 21, 2012, 01:32:01 PM
Great job on the CSA, the faces are really outstanding. I still like the old-school Owlman costume better, though.  :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: laughing paradox on March 22, 2012, 11:35:12 AM
These are really beautiful skins, Tomato. You should be exceedingly proud of them.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Podmark on March 23, 2012, 12:58:06 AM
Excellent set Tomato. The colours, highlighting and faces are simply perfect.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: apfarmakis on March 23, 2012, 08:16:36 AM
Can someone post the d/l links to Tomato's awesome CSA skins? I have no idea where I can find them.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 23, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
*points at sig*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 23, 2012, 04:08:03 PM
<---Very happily adds new stuff to his CSA characters folder. Thanks 'Mato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: UnkoMan on March 23, 2012, 05:54:34 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: naitvalis on March 25, 2012, 06:53:55 AM
download time!!!! thank you Tomato!!! i promise i don't eat your brothers and sisters  for a week.
thanks again for this marvelous works!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Helix on March 25, 2012, 05:30:21 PM
Ummm...so where are these being hosted? I checked NPI, but they aren't there.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 25, 2012, 06:09:13 PM
*points at sig*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 25, 2012, 07:03:12 PM
Maybe I wasn't clear enough... I'm not hosting any more files on NPI because I'm planning on moving to another site sometime in the (hopefully) near future. But since I know this is something a lot of you were clamoring for, I've uploaded the CSA pack to a file sharing site (mediafire) and posted the link on my tumblr page. Just click on the image.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 26, 2012, 02:34:16 PM
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6339/johnnyee.jpg) (http://tomatoisjp.tumblr.com/)

Just in case you all thought I was done.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 26, 2012, 10:47:43 PM
 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 26, 2012, 11:42:57 PM
You know how you have some days where you're really trying to get stuff done and don't seem to manage anything, and on other days you can somehow squeeze in getting fingerprinted, mowing the lawn, getting a brand new DCUO toon to level 7, assemble a good chunk of a bookcase/display shelf, distract a two year old for 30 minutes so mother can get chores done, and do one full skin and a huge chunk of another? I had the latter today.

In progress shot Power Ring number... 4? I dunno, I'm just gonna go by the main universe numbers (Alan->Hal->Guy->John->Kyle) just to keep my brain from exploding.

(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7049/powerring4.jpg)

Now, the wristbands aren't even close to done yet, but even now you'll probably notice they're silver, not green (which is the more common colorization). Truthfully, I suspect the one reference I have for them being that color is just an error, but I decided to go by it anyway to help separate Power Ring IV from John's JLU design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on March 27, 2012, 04:06:06 PM
man tomato, your just killing these skins. thanks for the relase too. i look forward to seeing your new site.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: martialstorm on March 31, 2012, 02:41:11 AM
Great to see you're doing more CSA Tomto, love the Johnny Quick and Power Rings.

Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: murs47 on March 31, 2012, 05:07:12 PM
Awesome, toms!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 31, 2012, 08:40:24 PM
Looking good 'Mato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Podmark on March 31, 2012, 08:55:33 PM
Great stuff! Don't stop.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: murs47 on March 31, 2012, 09:32:55 PM
Great stuff! Don't stop.

That's what she said.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 31, 2012, 09:45:25 PM
Sorry this took so long to finish, been busy lately. Hopefully I'll be able to finish PR5 at a quicker overall pace, but... I doubt it. Even so, enjoy this one for now!

(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7049/powerring4.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Previsionary on March 31, 2012, 09:47:43 PM
Great stuff! Don't stop.

That's what she said.

But not to you.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 31, 2012, 10:24:48 PM
Will you be creating a Power Ring 1?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on March 31, 2012, 11:00:56 PM
Is there actually a canon Power Ring 1? I'd rather focus on the Anti-Earth members that have actually shown up (Power Ring 5, Alexander Luthor, even some of the designs from Crisis on Two Earths... nothing from Countdown though. Eff that nonsense.).

Now that isn't to say I won't skin characters outside what's "canon"... chances are really good at this point that if the design that wins the Anti-Aquaman contest isn't already skinned (or, if the creator is OK with it, maybe I'll skin it anyway. who knows.) I'll be doing it myself. Likewise, if there's a character you have a design or something for, I'll consider it... CONSIDER it mind you. Don't get pouty if I just don't like the character, the design, or your stupid face. I'm a jerk like that sometimes.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 31, 2012, 11:18:12 PM
Is there actually a canon Power Ring 1? I'd rather focus on the Anti-Earth members that have actually shown up (Power Ring 5, Alexander Luthor, even some of the designs from Crisis on Two Earths... nothing from Countdown though. Eff that nonsense.).

Now that isn't to say I won't skin characters outside what's "canon"... chances are really good at this point that if the design that wins the Anti-Aquaman contest isn't already skinned (or, if the creator is OK with it, maybe I'll skin it anyway. who knows.) I'll be doing it myself. Likewise, if there's a character you have a design or something for, I'll consider it... CONSIDER it mind you. Don't get pouty if I just don't like the character, the design, or your stupid face. I'm a jerk like that sometimes.

That's why I include wiremaps with my stuff, I'd rather see other's skins on my skopes.  :thumbup:

As for a "canon" PR1, I've never seen one, but since you're doing the rest, I figured I'd ask.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 01, 2012, 12:33:25 AM
As for a "canon" PR1, I've never seen one, but since you're doing the rest, I figured I'd ask.

*cough*Guy Gardner*cough*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Addicted (03/03/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 03, 2012, 05:42:35 AM
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5998/powerring5.jpg)

Wasn't happy with Ren's mesh piece for the mask, so I made my own.

Skins are all placeholders. Just finishing up the skope.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 05, 2012, 04:59:00 AM
It occurred to me as I was editing the first post that this single skin thread is almost 3 years old. Gah that seems like forever ago.

Anyway, progress on the "Raymond King" Power Ring

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5998/powerring5.jpg)

Oddly, I put an awful lot of work into that face despite the fact that I knew full well the mask was going to cover 90% of it anyway. weird.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 05, 2012, 04:03:48 PM
More progress. work on it more later.

Edit: Just gonna edit this post rather than make another. First, another quick Raymond update before bed (finished the seams and added the glow)

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5998/powerring5.jpg)

Hopefully I'll have him done within the next few days. Once that happens, I'll be releasing a three pack with the "Legacy" Crime Syndicate. Meanwhile, here's a quick preview of what's to come:

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5265/e2prev.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Podmark on April 06, 2012, 04:59:16 PM
Still looking great Tomato. Very inspiring, gotta get back to skinning myself.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on April 06, 2012, 08:26:52 PM
dude, you're quick! i can't wait for the next release.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on April 06, 2012, 10:28:49 PM
The CSA can never get enough love in my book, so I'm glad to see you giving them sooo much.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 17, 2012, 10:29:16 PM
So, a few things of news from me on this (good and bad depending on your perspective)

So, I've finally gotten back to work one the "Raymond King" Power Ring (I expect he'll be done within the next few days), and once it's done I'll be releasing a "CSA: Legacy" 3-pack with both "Modern" Power Rings and the second version of Johnny Quick. I did have another CSA 3-pack in the works as well (which I'll describe in more detail in a minute) but unfortunately I'm going to be putting that one on hold temporarily... There's something FF-related in the works right now that takes precedence, and I don't know how long it's going to take me to finish it on top of, y'know, actually having a job again.

However, since I'm not really free to talk about that project yet, I figured I could at least explain the next CSA pack for you. As someone (I believe it was AA, but my internet is being goofy and I can't check just now) pointed out, I originally chose not to skin the Pre-Crisis designs for Ultraman, Superwoman, and Owlman. To be quite frank, those designs are particularly goofy even among the original CSA, and they're not nearly as iconic as the modern costumes.

However, I've given it a fair bit of thought, and after CB brought up the possibility of skinning the first version of Power Ring (Anti-Alan Scott for those who don't know who we're referring to) it occurred to me... yeah, those costumes may be a bit too corny for an Anti-Earth 1 version of the Crime Syndicate, they WOULD work for an Anti-Earth 2 Crime Legion (Counterparts to the JSA).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on April 17, 2012, 11:02:25 PM
Very interested to see what this new project is.

Also, I look forward to seeing your designs for an Anti-Earth 2 Crime Legion.












Taking pleasure in knowing that I got into "Mato's head  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 18, 2012, 02:41:30 AM
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5998/powerring5.jpg)
Aaaand... Done. Should have the Legacy pack up sometime tomorrow.

Very interested to see what this new project is.

Don't set your sights too high here... it's not like a mod or anything. It's just a couple of random skins, but I need to bring my "A" game to destroy that little... *cough* I mean, to put out the best quality skins for the project. Yeah.

Also, I look forward to seeing your designs for an Anti-Earth 2 Crime Legion.

I wouldn't call them designs per se... they're all taken from the original Pre-Crisis Syndicate, I'm just aging the characters a bit to give them a more Earth 2 type of feel (Ultraman's got E2 Superman's stockier build and graying hair, Superwoman will look more like the E2 WW as we saw in Infinite Crisis, etc.)








Taking pleasure in knowing that I got into "Mato's head  :D

*shrug* I was kind of looking for a way to do them anyway. Besides, believe it or not I DO pay attention to what people say... I may choose to ignore it, but I DO pay attention.


Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 18, 2012, 06:22:52 PM
So, for those foolishly foolish fools who have foolishly not followed my tumblr account and thus foolishly missed the update, Crime Syndicate: Legacy is now up for Download. Enjoy!





... Yeah, I've been playing waaaay too much Phoenix Wright lately.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on April 18, 2012, 10:31:27 PM
 :wub:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on April 23, 2012, 08:44:07 PM
i know i read something somehwere about this, but i dont remember where. one of your powerring skopes has a black box around it in charactertool2, does it need to be skoped off before it goes in game? sorry, i havent had a chance to open everything in game yet to see if it shows there.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 23, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
I don't believe it shows up in game, no. It's an extra included in ink's Super Cracker mesh, lets one see FX more clearly in Ctool (I found it useful for taking screens of the Power Rings)

Edit: No, I'm wrong, it does. Just flag it invisible with nifskope, I'll re-upload the corrected files later.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: BentonGrey on April 24, 2012, 01:38:53 AM
Man, I'm just loving these CSA guys 'Mato.  They are all really fantastic!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on April 25, 2012, 08:59:08 PM
I don't believe it shows up in game, no. It's an extra included in ink's Super Cracker mesh, lets one see FX more clearly in Ctool (I found it useful for taking screens of the Power Rings)

Edit: No, I'm wrong, it does. Just flag it invisible with nifskope, I'll re-upload the corrected files later.

thanks tomato
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Tomato on April 26, 2012, 12:32:12 AM
So, I haven't gotten around to re-uploading the Power Rings, obvsly. HOWEVER, I finally sat down and solved a major hurdle when it came to meshing... Saving you all a bunch of techno-babble, the way I had my Virtual PC set up meant it would crash if I sneezed hard when running it. Finally got off my butt and found a way to fix the issue.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Crackerjack Ring (04/05/12)
Post by: Tomato on August 25, 2012, 09:37:31 AM
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3056/deadman.png)

So, I'll save you the details of WHY I started been doing this skin (it's all on my tumblr (http://tomatoisjp.tumblr.com/post/29980616484/white-lantern) anyway) Other than to say it's almost freaking done and I'm probably just gonna finish it at this point.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Tomato on August 25, 2012, 12:10:57 PM
Mostly just tweaked the colors a bit, but I also added the ring. I'm debating whether or not to set him up with ren's lantern keys... I kinda doubt it, since he doesn't use the ring to make constructs, nor does he even have the battery 90% of the comic.

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4627/deadmanh.png)
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1119/deadman2.png)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Podmark on August 25, 2012, 01:39:59 PM
Shinny...and that is one interesting reason to start a skin. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Tomato on August 25, 2012, 03:11:59 PM
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2433/deadmana.png)
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7547/deadmanf.png)

Deadman is done. If anyone is interested, I'll try to get a dl for him up sometime soonish (I have work every night at graveyard shift hours until tuesday, so I wouldn't expect it before then)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on August 25, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
Glad to see you doing FF stuff again 'Mato. Greeat work on Deadman's face.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: murs47 on August 25, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
Thomas, why pure black on the outlines? It doesn't transition well. The face is fantastic and the colors spot on, however.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Podmark on August 25, 2012, 04:14:07 PM
Thomas, why pure black on the outlines? It doesn't transition well. The face is fantastic and the colors spot on, however.

I echo Murs. That face is excellence.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Tomato on August 25, 2012, 06:06:08 PM
Thomas, why pure black on the outlines? It doesn't transition well. The face is fantastic and the colors spot on, however.

Because the original and primary purpose of this skin isn't to be a typical freedom force skin: It's primarily a reference for the costume design (the color choices in particular) that I want someone to use when I commission this to be made as an action figure. As such, many of the design elements, like the black lines and the more silver-ish body, are intended to match the other white lantern figures on the market, particularly the ones by dc direct. For instance:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So... yeah, it's goofy on the skin, but... if my intent is to use this as a reference for a figure commission (presumably from loosecollector, but they've been quiet lately and I don't know what's going on with them) the lines need to be there.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Podmark on August 25, 2012, 06:25:45 PM
Oh Tomato you're making me want to buy action figures again...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: murs47 on August 26, 2012, 11:47:30 PM
That makes sense
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: martialstorm on August 27, 2012, 10:46:41 AM
Really clean and cool skin for Deadman Tomato.

OT: The faces on the Hal action figures make it look like he needs to eat more bran.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: docdelorean88 on August 27, 2012, 08:54:57 PM
Tom, wonderful work! Ive become fond of deadman lately
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on August 28, 2012, 11:18:22 PM
I guess now you're going to have to skin the rest of the White Lanterns.  :lol:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: AfghanAnt on September 09, 2012, 01:19:50 AM
Really great work on this skin 'Mato. I love all of the detail you put into the face.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 01, 2012, 01:56:22 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img28/6250/aquaj.jpg)

*vanishes in a puff of murs*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on October 01, 2012, 02:48:31 AM
Is this a certain Atlantean?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: BentonGrey on October 01, 2012, 04:02:28 AM
*vanishes in a puff of murs*

Ewww....how did you get so much Murs on you...and...why?

Also, that looks really interesting, 'Mato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 01, 2012, 12:50:10 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img191/1511/aquad.jpg)

... Maybe.

*vanishes in a puff of DJ*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Outcast on October 01, 2012, 02:38:09 PM
He almost looks like Cyber Burn's Aquatic Warlord? design in your Ode to Benton's (CSA Aquaman) thread with some changes here and there.  :cool:

It's an interesting design. The shaved head and scar gives off this evil warlord vibe. I dunno. :P

I also like how you slowly preview your work as it progresses and develops. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 01, 2012, 03:49:18 PM
He almost looks like Cyber Burn's Aquatic Warlord? design in your Ode to Benton's (CSA Aquaman) thread with some changes here and there.  :cool:

It's an interesting design. The shaved head and scar gives off this evil warlord vibe. I dunno. :P

I'm doing this as kind of an amalgamation of the designs from that thread, especially since the top two were very similar in design and tone anyway. I'll be posting the definitive winner there shortly, but my intent here is to take the best ideas from that thread for the "final" design I end up sending to loosecollector for the next batch.

I also like how you slowly preview your work as it progresses and develops. :)

Helps me catch stuff early, plus I don't have the attention span to just keep going on a skin from start to finish most of the time.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img534/511/aquaxq.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Deaths Jester on October 01, 2012, 04:43:24 PM

*vanishes in a puff of DJ*

I never said you could vanish in a puff of me!?!?!  What the 'ell!  Got back to vanishing in Murs...he likes the attention!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on October 01, 2012, 09:22:34 PM
Looks good ' Mato. I like the scars across the face. Also, is that a newly meshed trident?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You're a Dead Man (08/25/12)
Post by: murs47 on October 02, 2012, 02:46:02 PM
*vanishes in a puff of murs*

So...I'm smoke? Hurtful words, tater.

Skin looks good. Good job, broseph!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 02, 2012, 05:17:13 PM
No, it's the same one from AA's Aquaman skope. I might change it around later if I get creative, but it's serviceable enough for now.

Probably won't get any real work done on this today. Tough night at work, can barely move right now.

*tries to vanish in a puff of Benton, but there were too many fish scales. settles for chucking the scales at murs*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: AfghanAnt on October 02, 2012, 05:52:01 PM
Really loving this so far. You should post the design with the finished version.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 03, 2012, 05:09:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/A8Qb8.jpg)

-minor update, should have more tomorrow since I don't have work.

Oh, just btw, I heard from some totally not illegitimate and made up sources c6 should be posting some new stuff in his thread very soon. You should all go check that out right now, or you'll totally miss out.




*runs away while everyone's distracted*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: BentonGrey on October 03, 2012, 06:07:28 PM
Ohh, I love that!  Really nice work, 'Mato, and you're doing some interesting things in the adapation of those designs.  I love the scar, and the tattoos are really cool...though I still think they should glow! ^_^  I like the work around the collar, that is a nice detail.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 04, 2012, 08:50:55 AM
This work Benton?

(http://i.imgur.com/2U6cj.jpg)

A few things done before I go back to playing ME2 and no one sees me again for 12-24 hours. Also, a few notes about this skin before I go:

-The greek words on his arm DO have an actual meaning, but I'll leave it for ya'll to figure out.
-I haven't done the refl on the gold areas yet because I'm going that all at once... saves me the headache of trying to replicate the exact process days apart.
-While I wasn't that fond of John's designs on the whole, I did want to take a moment and give him full credit for the idea of the dead left eye, and the scars around it.
-The arms (both the chain mail and the tatoos) caused me such a headache... apparently someone altered the uv map when they were doing their Aquaman skope, and it caused the refl and glow layers to be slightly off around the forearms. I wasted a good 30 minutes on the right arm trying to figure out what was going on with the stupid refl layer.


...

*just walks away, 'cuz it's not like you all can do anything anyway*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Outcast on October 04, 2012, 03:21:49 PM
Nice touch on the tatoos Tomato. I think Benton's suggestion to make it glow is a great idea. I think i've seen some aquatic/water characters use such glowing tatoos/markings effects in a show/movie before but i can't remember where exactly.  Hmmm....making it glow does kinda make me think there's magic at work there. Maybe it could become the source of sorts for his telepathic ability to communicate with the sea creatures? :)

No idea on the Greek words though. But i'm guessing it's...."Ode to Benton..." or something along those lines. :P

The return of C6?!  That certainly is exciting news! :agentclap  :drool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 04, 2012, 03:53:39 PM
...

(http://i.imgur.com/TkvH8.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Outcast on October 04, 2012, 04:00:18 PM
Not trying to mess with you Tomato. I was just kidding with the Ode to Benton part...sorry if it appears that way.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 04, 2012, 10:15:08 PM
ok then:

-Tattoo glow comes straight from Aqualad in Young Justice, which you should be watching religiously lest I destroy you.
-It's more stuff like king of atlantis.
-C6 thing is a total lie. I heard he was doing something months ago from another creator, but in the case of half the creators here going from "is working on" to "is ready to show off" and then "will actually release" can be a year long process.

still, with the release of a certain movie, it might be good timing...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on October 04, 2012, 11:42:41 PM
Guess I jumped the gun on bumping C6's skin thread then, bummer.

Antiverse Aquaman is looking really nice so far. Did you settle on a name yet?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 04, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
Sorry about that... I was basically doing a "look over there at the shiny object! *slips away unnoticed*" type joke. In my head, I was thinking of this red vs blue scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9JK4IIDb96Q#t=96s) (note: link is to a red vs blue clip. stark language is a given.)

Seriously, I don't know what the flying monkey fruit C6 is doing. Heck, I didn't even know half of Heroforce was ganging up on my avatar until tue's skin showed up on my tumblr.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Podmark on October 05, 2012, 02:44:44 AM
You got yourself a pretty cool design and skin there Mr. Mato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Deaths Jester on October 06, 2012, 03:22:31 PM

Seriously, I don't know what the flying monkey fruit C6 is doing. Heck, I didn't even know half of Heroforce was ganging up on my avatar until tue's skin showed up on my tumblr.

You mention tue's skin showing up on your tumblr but don't give us a link to see it?!?!  What's wrong with you?!?!?!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 06, 2012, 07:25:26 PM
because A. it's already posted on his skin thread so anyone who doesn't use tumblr has seen it, and B. I reblogged it with my tumblr, so anyone who does have tumblr and was following either one of us should have already seen it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Outcast on October 07, 2012, 04:33:56 PM
-Tattoo glow comes straight from Aqualad in Young Justice, which you should be watching religiously lest I destroy you.
-It's more stuff like king of atlantis.
-C6 thing is a total lie. I heard he was doing something months ago from another creator, but in the case of half the creators here going from "is working on" to "is ready to show off" and then "will actually release" can be a year long process.

still, with the release of a certain movie, it might be good timing...

Oh, i see. I honestly didn't know the tatoos were also part of Aqualad's design in Young Justice. (Which i know you watch religiously) I guess this was what
you must have meant about me messing with you. I don't watch TV that much anymore. But i think it was in some other show that i saw the glowing tatoo on a character as well.

As to the C6 thing, it's too bad that it was a lie. I'm sure i'm not the only one who would love to see some new work from him, even if it's just a wip or a teaser.

If it's got something to do with upcoming superhero movies (http://www.superherostuff.com/blog/movies/upcoming-superhero-movies-201020112012/)...i have no clue as to which one it is. He's done almost all of them i think. Unless there's a new costume design i don't know which he fancies. :huh:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 07, 2012, 05:22:47 PM
I don't want to reveal anything more about it, since he's clearly not ready to show anything yet and I'm not even 100% sure he's working on it still. Only reason I heard about it was because someone was helping him with some skopes and asked for me to do a mesh piece.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: murs47 on October 08, 2012, 06:36:30 PM
If those are supposed to be glowing tattoos perhaps you should give them a glow effect rather than an embossed effect. Other than that, this skin is still awesome and I'm very much waiting for it's completion...so hurry up.

PS I turned some of your relatives into a smoothie this morning. It was delicious.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: UnkoMan on October 12, 2012, 03:36:59 AM
Dude, I just saw that Deadman... and I love it.

This alternate Aquaman you're working on now is coming along very nicely, too. The shadows on your skin tones are always a bit light for me (especially in the faces), but the tones themselves are nicely done. That gold collar really pops, and the tattoos look awesome. Oh man... remember animated skin? Imagine doing a water ripple glow effect over that tattoo? Imagine it!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 12, 2012, 10:35:26 PM
If those are supposed to be glowing tattoos perhaps you should give them a glow effect rather than an embossed effect. Other than that, this skin is still awesome and I'm very much waiting for it's completion...so hurry up.

PS I turned some of your relatives into a smoothie this morning. It was delicious.

I don't entirely know what you mean here, but I'm assuming you're referring to the fact that I added a shadow around the tattoos rather than letting them blur out. I do want to dial that back a bit, but the reason I added it was to help sharpen the edges of the tattoo.

PS: I made one of your clones into a smoothie and sent it to DJ. He thought it was delicious.

Dude, I just saw that Deadman... and I love it.

This alternate Aquaman you're working on now is coming along very nicely, too. The shadows on your skin tones are always a bit light for me (especially in the faces), but the tones themselves are nicely done. That gold collar really pops, and the tattoos look awesome. Oh man... remember animated skin? Imagine doing a water ripple glow effect over that tattoo? Imagine it!

I think it has to do with the fact that I tend not to do very many actual shadow layers on my skins... I usually work up from a base color with highlights. It's weird though, because I feel like overall my caucasian skin tones tend to be much darker/more tan then what I see from other skinners. As for animated textures... I've never done them before, and it's hard enough for me to finish one skin without essentially having to do multiple versions of it.

Anyway long story short, I'm sorry I haven't been working on this, all I can say is that life stinks. I've had one person at my workplace quit and another one's mother had a heart attack, so she's been gone for over a week and will be gone next week as well. Long term it'll be a good thing, because I'm essentially taking the former's full-time position (I've been "part-time" working full-time hours anyway, and this puts me on 1-9pm/3-11pm shifts instead of the 11pm-7am shift that's been destroying me) but short term it means me and my other night-shift coworker are working almost every night shift. Still, it's my weekend off, so maybe once I've gotten my 24 hours of recovery sleep in I'll get some work in on it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 13, 2012, 03:37:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lUQfe.jpg)

Got as much work as I could in before I went to bed for the day.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on October 13, 2012, 03:55:39 PM
Looks really good 'Mato. Nice job.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Outcast on October 14, 2012, 04:29:52 PM
The design and skin is shaping up quite nicely there Tomato. I like how you did the yellow gold scales in the costume. The chest straps for his shoulder armor pad looks cool too. Another awesome skin in the making. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Deaths Jester on October 15, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
If those are supposed to be glowing tattoos perhaps you should give them a glow effect rather than an embossed effect. Other than that, this skin is still awesome and I'm very much waiting for it's completion...so hurry up.

PS I turned some of your relatives into a smoothie this morning. It was delicious.

I don't entirely know what you mean here, but I'm assuming you're referring to the fact that I added a shadow around the tattoos rather than letting them blur out. I do want to dial that back a bit, but the reason I added it was to help sharpen the edges of the tattoo.

PS: I made one of your clones into a smoothie and sent it to DJ. He thought it was delicious.

That's what that was you had me drink...hmmm...might have to have another one of those, though it needed a little more booze in it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 15, 2012, 11:51:40 PM
I'll make sure the next clone is drunk before I turn him into a smoothie. Shouldn't be that hard.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 16, 2012, 11:30:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tAmdL.jpg)

Mostly done at this point, just gotta do the trident and fins.

Also, I think I've finally settled on a name for this particular version: Aqualord. It's a bit closer to his E1 counterpart then the other CSA members, but it's also a call back to the old Justice Lord episodes (Old episodes... ugh, I still remember when those aired. I feel depressed now.) and I think it fits nicely with the whole "worship me because I'm totally the legitimate king" thing we had going on for him in the "Ode to Benton" thread.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on October 16, 2012, 11:44:20 PM
That looks fantastic 'Mato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on October 17, 2012, 01:28:32 AM
Hi Tomato, I love the way this character is looking.  I can not wait to see the final product.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Deaths Jester on October 17, 2012, 03:02:14 PM
I'll make sure the next clone is drunk before I turn him into a smoothie. Shouldn't be that hard.

Good, that should make things all better then.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: BentonGrey on October 17, 2012, 04:37:49 PM
"I'm the totally legitimate king who is totally legitimate and in no way illegitimate...so, yes, yes....totally legitimate...that's me....KNEEL!"

I love it, 'Mato!  He's fantastic!  Now THERE is an evil Aquaman!  Take that Flashpoint with your weak redesign!  He's recognizably Aquaman, recognizably evil...it's a great design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (09/30/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 19, 2012, 01:23:50 AM
Aaaaaand DONE! WOOOOOOO!!!!

(http://i.imgur.com/BS5tW.png)

So yeah, that was fun. And by fun, I mean that my experiences with that trident can be summed up in this one sentence:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I mean really, for something that looks like it should be so amazing, that trident has the most horrible mapping EVER. UGH.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (10/18/12)
Post by: Podmark on October 19, 2012, 02:34:36 AM
That is an amazing design, bravo Tomato.

I hear ya on the bad mapping, I've had a few like that before.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (10/18/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 19, 2012, 01:20:12 PM
Forgot to mention: Yes, I did do two versions of the tattoos: One glowing, one regular.

Imma sleep now, but when I get up (if, y'know, I have some time before work, meh) I'll be prepping some mesh stuffage in preparation for the next antiverse character on my list.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (10/18/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on October 19, 2012, 01:54:19 PM
The finished product looks great 'Mato. Will this be releasable? And I look forward to seeing your next anti-verse character.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (10/18/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 19, 2012, 10:36:12 PM
I'm typing up the release post on tumblr now, I'll edit this with the link when I finish.

Edit: Linkie (http://tomatoisjp.tumblr.com/post/33918942232/the-aqualord)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (10/18/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on October 19, 2012, 11:27:40 PM
Definitely one of your better works there 'Mato. Nicely executed.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (10/18/12)
Post by: naitvalis on October 20, 2012, 05:25:15 AM
this is sure a very charismatic character, executed with a nice, unique style and all the attention for the details.
Downloaded right now this amazing work, unfortunately for me it shows the familiar withe cube in the game, i have told my aquaman to stop waiting, and he is now in an underwater bar completely drunk.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (10/18/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 20, 2012, 06:13:19 AM
Well, I based it on AA's Aquaman skope, which is ffv3r only. I can try to see if it's possible to re-export it for ff1, but we'll see. I'm at work right now, can't really do too much.

It works just fine on ffv3r though.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: And now back to regularly scheduled programing (10/18/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 21, 2012, 03:16:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5Uy55.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: AfghanAnt on October 22, 2012, 01:41:05 AM
I am intrigued.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on October 22, 2012, 12:53:13 PM
Looks neat Tomato!  I am looking forward to seeing this character.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 22, 2012, 03:16:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bb9AL.jpg)

The Antimato cometh.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on October 22, 2012, 03:57:14 PM
I like the facial leaves...I mean facial hair.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: BentonGrey on October 22, 2012, 04:17:33 PM
I like the facial leaves...I mean facial hair.

I think you were right the first time....

Nice, 'Mato!  He looks interesting.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: deano_ue on October 22, 2012, 08:33:29 PM
FU MANCHU TACHE
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: Podmark on October 23, 2012, 12:03:49 AM
I love that stache.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: Tomato on October 23, 2012, 01:17:46 AM
I like the facial leaves...I mean facial hair.

I think you were right the first time....

Actually, both are wrong. I mean, have you ever seen a tomato grow facial hair or facial leaves? Silly peoples, try and be realistic here.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: Tomato on December 22, 2012, 06:12:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tJbWd.jpg)

Haven't worked on the Antimato skin in two months because I was busy, and I was dreading doing the trenchcoat. Come back for one day on a total whim, finish the whole thing.

Seems legit.

Also, funny story... I actually started growing an "evil beard" of my own prior to starting this skin, and I'm rather happy with it. I never did the whole "I need to grow facial hair so people think I'm older than I am" thing when I hit puberty, but I have to admit, it is nice to walk into a patient's room and not have him/her constantly asking if I'm twelve >.>

For the record, I'm 23. It's not as old as some of you I know, but it is frustrating for my particular field because "ZOMG he's a newbie!"
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: A new challenger approaches (10/21/12)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 22, 2012, 06:21:24 PM
Antimato looks good. The subtle highlights looks good in the green areas.

Off subject, did you ever release the Deadman White Lantern that you made?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 23, 2013, 04:56:32 PM
Antimato looks good. The subtle highlights looks good in the green areas.

Off subject, did you ever release the Deadman White Lantern that you made?

Not yet, no. I might take a look at stuff sometime this week, try to release anything else I haven't yet.

(http://i.imgur.com/OpFQBfX.jpg)

So I'm burned out on J'edd for the moment, decided to work on some other stuff. First of three.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: deano_ue on March 23, 2013, 05:26:57 PM
loving the suit, personally i'd darken it down a bit to just get hint of neon blue removed

but i gotta mate the same really seems off with the eyebrows
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Podmark on March 23, 2013, 05:36:07 PM
He looks funny! His eyebrows make him look like he's reacting to something ridiculous. "The Red Skull did what to my brain?!" "Erik is wearing white now?!" "Beast thinks it's funny to bring his past selves to the present?!"

The suit is really well done.

This reminds I've meant to upgrade my Xavier to your suit mesh. Keep forgetting about that...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 23, 2013, 06:06:42 PM
Yeah, I was going for the look of his MU figure, but in practice it looks straight up goofy... decided to mirror the right brow to give him a more basic expression.

(http://i.imgur.com/P7FValW.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: deano_ue on March 23, 2013, 06:27:50 PM
ok i'm gonna be honest here i did not call prof x. i thought it was luthor

honestly mate i think its darker skin tone around the eyes that makes it strange, the look really sunken in. maybe rebuild the eye socket below the brow to give it a more standard shape but keeping the arched look
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 23, 2013, 10:25:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/uB30ARg.jpg) better?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Podmark on March 23, 2013, 10:55:00 PM
Definitely looks much better to me.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 24, 2013, 01:39:12 AM
One more before work:

(http://i.imgur.com/CVSRbKJ.jpg)

This is, without a doubt, my all time favorite Xavier costume. It's never been part of the actual comic, but I've loved the design ever since he showed up as a playable character in X-men Legends. It just feels like the sort of thing Xavier would wear if he was actually going out to do battle alongside the other X-men.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Podmark on March 24, 2013, 07:25:01 AM
Cool costume, and a great addition to FF. Can't say I'm familiar with it though. I don't think I played the first X-Men Legends.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 25, 2013, 10:22:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6YxUl4d.jpg)

WIP of Xavier's third costume of the skin pack, the Black and Yellow look.

I was never a big fan of this look in the comics (I think it's just how I've seen it drawn... the X is usually too thin and it made the costume look goofy) but now that I'm working on it I actually really like it. I'm still slightly more fond of the Legends one (it just seems more "champion of the astral plane" to me) but it's still a good look for Xavier.

But anyway, I took a few liberties with the design... I figure Pod's got a more or less comic-accurate version of it in his skin pack, so it left me open to be a tad creative with it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Podmark on March 25, 2013, 11:40:25 PM
I like your design better. I found the comic version pretty bland. Sometimes I wonder why I skin certain costumes.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 26, 2013, 12:36:44 AM
Because it's the only legit costume Xavier's really used in the comics (No, I don't count the original yellow costume, it's ugly) and you're a completist like that. Truthfully though, I didn't really alter it that much, just changed a few details.

(http://i.imgur.com/IqI7uwC.jpg)

-Also, finished.

I think this will be it for this particular "skin pack." There are a few other designs out there, but the only one really worth doing (in my mind) is the New X-men costume, and AA's already got that version covered.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Goin' Mental (03/23/13)
Post by: Podmark on March 26, 2013, 01:47:53 AM
Great pack, and it looks like you found some solid keys to go with it. I'll probably follow your lead and update my Xaviers when I'm not in the middle of a dozen skins.

Truthfully though, I didn't really alter it that much, just changed a few details.

Sometimes the small details make all the difference.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 27, 2013, 07:43:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/7n2BpAz.jpg)

Heavy WIP
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 30, 2013, 06:12:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/laRz68s.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Podmark on March 30, 2013, 07:10:08 AM
That's a great looking face. Really interested in seeing the rest.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 30, 2013, 08:24:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/XzK35LW.jpg)

A bit of his costume's done... still got plenty of work, but it's coming along nicely enough.

Anyway, in case it wasn't obvious, this is a WIP of my redesign for Morph... kind of an amalgamation of his animated series look and his Exiles/AoA counterpart. I've always felt like it was a shame Morph never really got to make his mark on the 616 reality (I know he's "dead", but given that his counterpart is nigh-immortal, I call BS), and his Toy biz action figure is one I still hold a ton of nostalgia for. So yeah, I'm making a skin of how I see him.

I'm debating on a few things on this... I definately want to have an alternate variant with the jacket he wore in the show (I'm using Syn's red hood jacket, but I'm not really happy with it... I might have to check out some other meshes/skopes, find one I like more) but I'm not sure whether or not to give him hair. I was planning on it originally, but after skinning the pronounced brows I'm having second thoughts.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Previsionary on March 30, 2013, 10:42:04 AM
When I saw the previous pic, I instantly thought about animated Morph (after his return to the series), so I think you captured that well. I'm excited to see the finished look. I'd like to see hair on him, but I also recognize that the bald look is probably more iconic for Morph.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 30, 2013, 11:05:03 AM
When I saw the previous pic, I instantly thought about animated Morph (after his return to the series), so I think you captured that well. I'm excited to see the finished look. I'd like to see hair on him, but I also recognize that the bald look is probably more iconic for Morph.

Yeah, that's kind of where I sit too... I think I might just do both, have the bald version because it's more iconic, but do alternates with hair because that's how I see him.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 30, 2013, 03:56:41 PM
Both Professor X and Morph are looking great 'Mato. Sorry I didn't comment sooner.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on March 31, 2013, 06:21:46 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ynCxaQB.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/hBSm4ls.jpg)

Finally found a jacket I'm more happy with (I was using Syn's Red hood jacket, but I wanted the gap in the front a bit wider) and that's about all I have left for Morph (Y'know, other then the blasted extras... but I finally have a rough idea for the brick wall segment, so it's all good)

Core of Morph's outfit is mainly based on his Exiles run, though obviously with changes here and there. Especially the no cape (http://i.imgur.com/hBSm4ls.jpg) thing.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: laughing paradox on April 01, 2013, 01:59:01 PM
Professor X looks severe, but I kind of like that. It's like he's reprimanding Bobby for putting ice in Hank's shorts or something.

Morph is shaping up nicely. I like the blue tones personally, but was the comic edition a bit brighter?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on April 01, 2013, 11:01:20 PM
Typically, but I've seen it colored a more faded blue on occasion. I tried to keep it somewhere in the middle, but I'd rather it look good then worry about technicalities.

But as to this skin... I apologize in advance for this, but I might have to put this on hold for a bit. Work's got me working every day through the weekend, and I've got stuff going on with my appt as well. So yeah, we'll see.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Outcast on April 02, 2013, 03:57:27 PM
Unbelievable work on their faces Tomato. I'm not too familiar with Morph but Professor X's face is uncannily just like....well Professor X. :blink: Even without the costume, one could easily say it's Professor X. Amazing! :o
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on April 03, 2013, 05:34:57 AM
Ok, so. I might be letting the cat out of the bag a bit early here, but I have consulted with some people about moving my skins/meshes from their current home on NPI to another website, which means I have another reason to put Morph on the backburner for the moment (I still plan to have him done by the time everything officially goes up, but I'm also going back through a ton of my older releases and getting them nice and polished for the re-release). However, lest you guys think I'm slacking off...

(http://i.imgur.com/Ft5eXWK.jpg)

I'm also dusting off some old projects too.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Outcast on April 03, 2013, 04:17:20 PM
Looks pretty cool to me. Kid Rocket unmasked. I like the hair. Maybe making a mesh/skin of him in his civilian identity as well would be great too. Well, you can use that, if ever you feel like making a mod or mini mod for him. Just saying. :)

Your webpage at NPI looks great. I hope there's not going to be any problems with NPI though.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on April 03, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
Well I'm releasing this version as well, but it's more a preview of the full skin... Ch'nybe was a similar situation, with the superhero outfit and a more... kingdom hearts style outfit (the "Darek" skin on NPI). All 5 members of Influx have similar alternate outfits, and I'll probably hold back on re-releasing them until I get those done.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on April 04, 2013, 03:58:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mmiqwT9.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/3oZ07LJ.gif)

Teasers of the Tomato and Kid Rocket packs. Off to work I go

(http://i.imgur.com/bwEI8wQ.gif)

Edit: Ch'nybe preview added. This was actually a huge pain to get working... KR and Tomato were more or less designed with an all-in-one skope in mind, but I made the Ch'nybe and Darek skins as completely separate entities. Getting them on a single skope, getting appropriate animations working, and then finding a way to get Darek's head on Ch'nybe's body via alpha channels... meh.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Outcast on April 05, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
Sounds like a lot of work indeed. But i guess that's just how custom heroes are. I didn't notice or realize that Kid Rocket and Ch'nybe were half elf and even related to each other until now. (Just read your background information on each and found it very interesting.)  :cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on April 06, 2013, 06:18:23 AM
Actually, those bios are something I made sure to include with the re-releases... each individual skin has its own bio, and the bios for characters with multiple skins (including "unmasked" versions) each have their own story to tell about the characters from that period.

Oh, and speaking of things people might not know... got another all-in-one skope finished.

(http://i.imgur.com/fKLtgLs.gif)

For those who don't remember, I teased Teknos as the fourth member of Electric Freedom, way back when I was actually trying to get an Influx mod together, as a former EF member I'd "been in contact with" and who had contributed an altered version of his avatar for the first few levels of the mod. Though, I really didn't have to go too far for that, since the fourth member I pulled from Electric Freedom was Antmananext... aka me.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Outcast on April 06, 2013, 05:37:15 PM
Cool looking avatars Tomato. Looking forward to reading their bios and stories. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: UnkoMan on April 10, 2013, 04:08:27 AM
What? Ch'nybe was an elf this whole time!?!
Wait, is he an adult Kid Rocket?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on April 10, 2013, 10:47:56 AM
What? Ch'nybe was an elf this whole time!?!
Wait, is he an adult Kid Rocket?

They're both Half-human, but yes.

No, he is not. Admittedly, calling them "Brothers" is an oversimplification, but the fact that they're on the same team at the same time would mean that if they were the same person, there'd be some crazy time travel hi-jinx going on that I don't really want to contemplate.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on April 10, 2013, 06:13:03 PM
Great all-in-one skopes you've got going on there 'Mato, I'm really intrigued to see where the new releases will end up as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on May 05, 2013, 02:30:51 AM
So, long story short, I'm stuck home with a case of sick (sinus infection, has had me up and down all week) so today I took some time out of setting up my new display shelf (I've been working on building this thing for a few months now) to put in a bit of work on Morph.

(http://i.imgur.com/2LXUwdI.jpg)

Skinned his hair. gonna keep bald as an alt.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Helix on May 05, 2013, 03:09:49 AM
You're diiiithspicable! Really. Nobody's skins should look that smooth. It just ain't right.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on May 05, 2013, 05:45:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/xnriuCu.jpg)

Still need to add the "X" patch and skin the under-jacket (I need to skin a jacket on the regular male_basic  for some of the anims.)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Podmark on May 05, 2013, 05:58:15 PM
Looks great, a fine addition to the ranks of the X-Men.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on May 06, 2013, 03:37:22 AM
Great texture on the jacket "Mato, I love the smirk as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on May 06, 2013, 07:03:28 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/URe9kqE.jpg)

I've still got tons of work on the extras, but I'll save that for later... I'm in the middle of writing a guide to using hypothetical violence on the internet.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Bloodshadow on May 06, 2013, 09:50:08 PM
That is amazing!Awesome Morph Tomato :cool:
The smirk is great,reminds me of the 90's cartoon,very cool.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: BentonGrey on May 07, 2013, 02:19:45 AM
Ha, nice!  He looks just like brainwashed Morph from the animated series.  The expression is perfect.  I totally didn't call him, but that's a nice addition. 

'Mato, those Xavier skins are some of the most excellent examples of face work I've ever seen.  Those are perfect.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: windblown on May 08, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Thatís a very cool skin, the face expression and the jacket are outstanding.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: AfghanAnt on May 15, 2013, 11:45:43 AM
I am not familiar with it, but I love the blue/teal Xavier costume.

And yaah! Morph. He was one of my favorite of the cartoon as well. I'm really surprised no one tried to resurrect him for 616.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Podmark on May 16, 2013, 03:57:04 AM
I'm really surprised no one tried to resurrect him for 616.

Good point. He was a favorite of mine in that show too.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on May 30, 2013, 08:31:10 PM
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I know they had the one floating around in Exiles, but I would like to have seen a modern take on the TAS morph.

Anyway, some news:

-Mahty and Marauder might not make it up temporarily. I want to do the three packs with them like I have with the other members of Influx, so I need to go back and skope/skin the other outfits.
-Unfortunately, the Movie-style X-men skins did not survive the death of one of my portable drives. I've probably lost my phoenix skin as well, but I'll double check on that one.
-My Ultimate Spiderman skin will not be going up on the new site. I only kept it around because I was the only one to do an USM skin, but I have no real desire to update it and AA's recent one is a ton better than mine.
-I will be slowly updating all my Female base meshes to the new "Female_Basic_TM2" style, as well as updating Mahty and Detourne to use the new mesh. So if you want the old style female mesh, you'll have to go to NPI.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on May 30, 2013, 11:17:06 PM

-Unfortunately, the Movie-style X-men skins did not survive the death of one of my portable drives. I've probably lost my phoenix skin as well, but I'll double check on that one.


That's a shame, I went back and checked out your old skin thread at ToF, Wolverine was looking pretty good.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: martialstorm on May 31, 2013, 07:52:14 AM
I feel your pain with the computer crash, it can be very disheartening. Love the Morph work btw  :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on May 31, 2013, 04:50:27 PM
Well... Portable HD crash, but it amounts to the same thing. I actually lost the CSA stuff I had too (including that WIP Ultraman I previewed) but luckily all of that had either been released or I still had the max files. I've since updated my native HD to 1 tb, so I won't have to keep playing games with the portable drives crashing after a year or so.

Also, I have a preview of my new page up on tumblr that is totally legit and isn't faked at all.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: spydermann93 on May 31, 2013, 05:46:39 PM
Haha, that preview is simply amazing, Tomato! :lol:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on June 01, 2013, 10:00:56 PM
Everything with the except for the aforementioned "lost skins" and WL Deadman (I do plan on releasing him, but I still need to make portraits and stuff for him and I don't feel like doing that right now.) has just been released.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: BigD on June 02, 2013, 02:14:42 AM
Cheer up dude, the same yet similar thing happened to me recently when I was playing :ff: my secondary hard drive suddenly failed and caused my system to either crash or shut down unexpectedly and when I tried to reboot my computer it wouldn't load the operating system :mellow:. Pathetic isn't it &lt;_&lt;! The good news is that recently that the computer repair crew at their shop removed the dead secondary hard drive from my computer, thankfully my whole game with the meshes and skins were not on there and I was able to play my game again without any problems :D. Anyways, don't feel bad about it and I'm pretty sure you'll figure something out soon enough. Until then, peace out my friend and be cool ;). Oh and one more thing...  :) SMILE IT WILL GET BETTER! :)

BigD
:cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on June 02, 2013, 06:38:51 AM
er... I'm not worried about it, and the situation is already better (my laptop has a 1tb hard drive now, I'm not hurting for space) it's just that I lost work that I had previewed and that some people might have been looking forward to. I feel bad for them, not for me.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on June 03, 2013, 03:07:53 PM
i remeber that wolverine skin that cyber burn mentioned, it's a shame tha you lost that one. i am glad to see you up on heroforce though, youre a great addition to the site.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Morphin' Time (03/27/13)
Post by: Tomato on June 08, 2013, 07:28:55 AM
So one of the things you all might have noticed that, of all the avatars on this board, there is one avatar of note that I have never skinned. It's partly a matter of intimidation, but also the fact that, in all honesty... I had nothing new to really add to it. I feel like the design is fantastic as-is, I'm not nearly talented enough at skinning to do the design any better, so it was always one of those avatars I kind of put up on the shelf until I had something to add it it.

Well, needless to say, that's changed now... so, without further rambling, I introduce my WIP of...

(http://i.imgur.com/WT5KWPs.jpg)

GINGERBREAD COURTNALL 6!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: martialstorm on June 08, 2013, 01:00:44 PM
Looks like it was fun to make Tomato...and tasty too!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on June 08, 2013, 03:06:00 PM
What a trip, 'Mato. A very unique idea.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Podmark on June 08, 2013, 04:51:41 PM
Yummy...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: BentonGrey on June 09, 2013, 04:35:38 AM
Haha, I'll take one!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: BigD on June 09, 2013, 08:41:05 PM
A very interesting design, and a very interesting yet odd and weird character of yours Tomato. I really like your own version of Gingerbread Courtnall6, he looks so cool and furthermore he looks like something that came out of a monster making machine almost. I'm not saying that he's freaky or whatever, but what I'm saying is that he would make an interesting character for anyone's character roster lineup if they had a chance to own Gingerbread Courtnall6 for themselves for example. This character would even be used for either a monster based character or a strange yet villainous based character, but still he gets an A+ in my books. I hope you work the details out along with the finishing touches on Gingerbread Courtnall6 at your own pace Tomato, and I hope you will have more ideas in the way of meshes and/or skins come our way whenever you get to it after it pops up in your head in the form of an ideal design. Until we meet again, peace out and I'll see you later ;).

BigD
:cool:

P.S. I just wanted to let you know that Gingerbread Courtnall6 is marvelous and he is awesome :thumbup:.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on June 09, 2013, 09:26:34 PM
I do have to say that when I saw the name of the thread change ("Gotta catch them all"), I half expected to see something to do with Pokemon.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: spydermann93 on June 09, 2013, 09:29:44 PM
I do have to say that when I saw the name of the thread change ("Gotta catch them all"), I half expected to see something to do with Pokemon.

Haha, me too :P

Needless to say, I am pleasantly surprised. :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on June 10, 2013, 03:12:48 AM
Well, I actually opted for that name because the whole thing started as a pokemon joke, so it made sense.

BTW, this is really just a WIP, I plan of doing most of the details... whenever I get around to finishing it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: AfghanAnt on June 11, 2013, 10:44:48 AM
:) "Sweet".
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 25, 2013, 12:41:40 PM
*Blows dust off thread*

(http://i.imgur.com/SCyK89O.jpg)

So, this is the first of two skins I'll be working on. Now, before anyone gets confused, this is quite obviously NOT Jason David Frank, nor is it Shiro Izumi (original Sentai actor), but is actually Linkara, "star" of a web series I'm rather fond of dressed in the Green Ranger costume (if you watch the show you'd understand). Now, tbh, these are mostly "me" skins (I highly doubt anyone else will want them) just because it gives me an excuse to play with jnman078's awesome ranger meshes and do something unique with them.

And before anyone points it out... yes, the shield will be present on the final skin, it's just too distracting to have it on unskinned.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: deano_ue on August 25, 2013, 01:32:58 PM
nice mate. i'm a linkara fan as well and like yourself i thought about maybe giving his characters a try in FF. the likes of harvey,90's and vice i think could work well in the game

the face work is great, and aside from the jagged edges on the white which i'm sure will be fixed i cant see anything that needs tweaking
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Podmark on August 25, 2013, 03:31:25 PM
He looks weird without his hat  ;) Otherwise great work on the face, I can totally tell it's him.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: BigD on August 25, 2013, 05:14:47 PM
Tomato that is looking great for a version of Linkara even if he's on a web series, and above all I like how you're working with it plus I like the progress on it and the way it looks. I agree with the_ultimate_evil (TUE) on this one along with another thing on what he said, first the face work does look great and above all at least the many situations such as the jagged edges and such can be smoothed out to make it look better and above all as I agree with Podmark as well he does look weird without his hat but otherwise great work on the face. Second, Linkara should give his characters a chance and a try to be in :ff: one way or another and hopefully they would work out well in the game and even if they don't it's the thought that counts. Depending on which mesh's standard skin in the form of a costume, suit or whatever is being used on him I think testing the different costumes in the form of the standard skins of meshes would give you an idea on what's going on and how it would come out in the process. Great job by the way Tomato, and I do hope that you will keep up the good work and bring some more of your most interesting works.

BigD
:cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: detourne_me on August 25, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
He looks pretty good Tomato!
trouble is, i tried to watch a few of his shows... don't think i'll be doing that again though. not my style.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 25, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
He looks weird without his hat  ;) Otherwise great work on the face, I can totally tell it's him.

I know! Unfortunately though, he doesn't wear a hat under the PR helmet, so adding it wouldn't be canon to this look.

(http://i.imgur.com/MX0eP9L.jpg)

Quickie update before I go get food to live on, should fix most of the jaggedy-ness. What's left is mostly warping from the mesh, and even that's going to be covered by the shield later on.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 25, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/AjKZcOt.jpg)

Last one for right now. Gonna livestream some YJ for a couple of my friends in a minute, anyone's welcome to join in (the link will be posted to tumblr in a minute)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 26, 2013, 12:08:37 PM
So I'm going to attempt something today... depending on how well my computer can handle it, I'd like to livestream a bit of skinning magicness. I'm gonna do a bit right now (until my mountain dew wears off) and a bit more later in the afternoon after I've slept a bit. I'll be playing some music in the background (nothing major, a few PR tracks and some amazing Orchestral Pokemon music), but I'll have my computer's microphone on so I don't have to stop my workflow to chat.

Url is www.livestream.com/tomatoisjp , should be starting shortly

Edit: Stream's ended for now, I got the Dragon Shield done. As I said, I'm gonna try to do another later on (whenever I wake up until about 5p) but we'll see.

(http://i.imgur.com/YIyvbIC.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on August 26, 2013, 11:28:51 PM
this is very cool tomato. are the glasses skinned on or meshed on? i cant tell
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: BigD on August 27, 2013, 12:52:30 AM
I agree with Amazo Version 2.2 on this one Tomato, so far it's looking good for the mesh itself plus Linkara himself is looking sharp along with the way he is looking so far and above all you did an excellent job putting the dragon shield on him plus I was also wondering about the glasses skinned on or meshed either way like Amazo said. Above all, it's looking awesome so far and I do hope that the final design and touch ups to this one will be good enough to enjoy and live by. Good job so far Tomato, I hope you get this one squared away and done for us to see the final preview when it is done.

BigD
:cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 27, 2013, 01:47:50 AM
Glasses are just skinned on. I thought about doing a mesh, at least for the frames, but I felt like this turned out good enough that it wasn't necessary.

(http://i.imgur.com/hxzN4SK.jpg)

Finished this during the second stream, which ran from about 5p-7p, but no one showed up. Shame.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: detourne_me on August 27, 2013, 02:08:57 AM
i think i showed up to one of them....  i got a bit drunk last night, and when i woke up today there was a livestream page for you on my pc.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 27, 2013, 02:24:57 AM
So it was you then! there was a second follower for the first stream (the one where I did the shield) but only UE was talking.

Glasses are just skinned on. I thought about doing a mesh, at least for the frames, but I felt like this turned out good enough that it wasn't necessary.

(http://i.imgur.com/hxzN4SK.jpg)

Finished this during the second stream, which ran from about 5p-7p, but no one showed up. Shame.

Edit: Quoting so people don't go back a page
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: detourne_me on August 27, 2013, 03:39:54 AM
yeah, im not sure about the timing of everything,   it was my bday yesterday so a bunch of us were out drinking,   a friend gave me red vines from the states,   i just remember going home, passing out in front of my computer and eating the whole box of licorice.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 28, 2013, 02:00:42 AM
So in case anyone hasn't noticed, I've been posting regular updates to this skin on my tumblr, and I've been announcing livestream sessions there as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Deaths Jester on August 28, 2013, 02:10:29 PM
My only complaint about the skin revolves around the eyes...they just seem a bit flat and "one coloured" (not overly detailed with multiple colours used to enhance depth).  The only other thing I want to complain about is you forcing us to watch your tumbler account...I don't want to join anything else...I'm fine where I am....
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 28, 2013, 03:01:41 PM
Well, part of that is that the eyes are actually photoskinned on... I'm using a combination of regular skinning techniques and photoskinning for my facial work here, and Lewis has such dark eyes it's hard to get a ton of detail from the photos I've found.

(http://i.imgur.com/bfRJoj5.jpg)

That said, I did add a bit of shine to them, so that might help
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Deaths Jester on August 28, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
Well, part of that is that the eyes are actually photoskinned on... I'm using a combination of regular skinning techniques and photoskinning for my facial work here, and Lewis has such dark eyes it's hard to get a ton of detail from the photos I've found.

That said, I did add a bit of shine to them, so that might help

Ahh..didn't know you were using photo-skinning techniques on this one, which makes more sense on how it looks (I never was ever really happy with how photo-skins I made came out, just so you know).  The shine did add some realism to them on the skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 28, 2013, 04:01:30 PM
I've always been iffy when it comes to pure photoskins (they comes out nicely on occasion, but that's pretty rare), but I've found that using a hybrid of photoskinning and regular skinning techniques does a much better job of capturing a person's likeness, without being jarring against the rest of the skin (particularly in my case since my style tends to be more on the cartoony side).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Artemis on August 28, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
looks great, i think the photoskinning combined with your own style creates something really unique.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: BigD on August 28, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
I agree with you on that one 100% Artemis ^_^, it does look great and furthermore the progress on it is looking excellent so far :). I do hope that there will be a finished version soon enough, and I also do hope that you keep up the good work one way or another Tomato so that you can get this one done without any problems :D. Until we meet again my friends, CUL8TR ;)!

BigD
:cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 29, 2013, 04:28:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8fAKWL0.jpg)

Mask is done.

Edit: So, I'm faced with a bit of a dilemma at this point. I've just about wrapped up the skin itself, barring any minor tweeks I make based on people's suggestions, and we're at the point where I'm starting to look at weapons... now, the Dragon Dagger is a given (It's a huge part of both the Green Ranger motif and AT4W) but I'm trying to decide if it's worth doing any other weapons. I'm a bit vague on my memories of the MMPR show, but from what I've been able to google, the only other weapon associated with the Green Ranger is the Sword of Darkness, and I doubt that will ever appear on AT4W because, y'know, evil sword of evil. Conversely, Linkara HAS utilized the MMPR era Battle Blasters... but that's a weapon the Green Ranger doesn't have a need for, since the dragon dagger does about the same thing.

Now, the gut instinct is to say "DO ALL THE THINGS" but keep in mind, this is not a Green Ranger skin, so much as it is a Linkara skin in his Green Ranger morphed form. Plus, the sooner that I can finish this skin, the sooner I can start the next one, and the sooner this skin will get released.

What do you all think I should do?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on August 29, 2013, 01:30:41 PM
i'm not familiar with the linkara character, but i would say to stay true to him
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Podmark on August 30, 2013, 03:15:44 AM
Great job on the helmet. Have you shown this to Linkara yet?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on August 30, 2013, 04:12:13 AM
I've emailed him about it, but I don't know if he's seen it yet or not. That being said though, it WAS picked up by "linkarafans" on tumblr, which he follows, so I would assume though. I'm trying not to be a pest about it, but I will likely be emailing him once again when it's up for download.

Oh, and in case it wasn't obvious... I plan on doing Doug as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on September 08, 2013, 11:10:41 PM
TGWTG Green is up for download, for those who missed it via tumblr and on the herforce page.

also, skope is finally done on the NC

(http://i.imgur.com/P73XERE.jpg)

Skin is still mainly a placeholder (Basically a recolor of my green ranger skin and jnman078's black ranger helmet) but it should give you a good idea of how the skope looks.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on September 09, 2013, 02:07:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/dQnBHur.jpg)

Made a bit of progress before needing to pass out.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on September 09, 2013, 11:25:59 PM
I'm not familiar with the characters that you're skinning, but as with everything else you do, the quality is top notch.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: Tomato on September 10, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
You might not be familiar with Linkara, but I'd be very surprised if you haven't heard of Nostalgia Critic. Click the image for a link to the review I'm basing this on.

(http://i.imgur.com/Y2x3doz.jpg) (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39689-nostalgia-critic-turbo-a-power-rangers-movie)

It's Pandering Time.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on September 10, 2013, 12:51:14 AM
Is there an Emoticon for embarrassment? I haven't heard of Nostalgia Critic either. But great job on the Photoskinning.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Gotta catch em all (06/08/13)
Post by: spydermann93 on September 10, 2013, 01:30:33 AM
You might not be familiar with Linkara, but I'd be very surprised if you haven't heard of Nostalgia Critic. Click the image for a link to the review I'm basing this on.

(http://i.imgur.com/Y2x3doz.jpg) (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39689-nostalgia-critic-turbo-a-power-rangers-movie)

It's Pandering Time.

I freaking love the Critic! Always remembering so we don't have to.

A true hero.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Podmark on September 10, 2013, 03:22:59 AM
The face looks great, but does he have no eyebrows?  :huh:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: detourne_me on September 10, 2013, 10:22:04 AM
the neckbeard is strong with this one.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on September 11, 2013, 04:04:35 AM
The face looks great, but does he have no eyebrows?  :huh:

Because I hadn't really skinned them yet  :P

(http://i.imgur.com/WFjcqBO.png)

Hard to see the the glasses, but they are there now.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Outcast on September 11, 2013, 03:32:34 PM
Not really a fan of the rangers, but great work in skinning the little details like their insignia?, masks, and of course the photo skinned faces and glasses too.

I'm sorry but i just have to say, that Black Ranger's face looks just like you Tomato. No offense intended.  :unsure:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on September 12, 2013, 03:45:37 AM
Not really a fan of the rangers, but great work in skinning the little details like their insignia?, masks, and of course the photo skinned faces and glasses too.

I'm sorry but i just have to say, that Black Ranger's face looks just like you Tomato. No offense intended.  :unsure:

Oh my gosh...it does...that is cool!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Outcast on September 12, 2013, 03:24:46 PM
Not really a fan of the rangers, but great work in skinning the little details like their insignia?, masks, and of course the photo skinned faces and glasses too.

I'm sorry but i just have to say, that Black Ranger's face looks just like you Tomato. No offense intended.  :unsure:

Oh my gosh...it does...that is cool!

I'm just glad i'm not the only one who thought there was a resemblance.  :wacko:

Sorry Cyber, just remembered i have this important appointment i have to go to.  ^_^

*quickly teleports back to another dimension...leaving Cyber Burn to face Tomato's wrath alone.*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on September 15, 2013, 11:52:01 PM
no comment on Outcast's insanity.

www.livestream.com/tomatoisjp

Edit: Stream over. Just a quickie to finish a few pieces, I'll be doing more of the work when I don't have to finish cleaning my apt.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on September 16, 2013, 01:40:08 AM
no comment on Outcast's insanity.

www.livestream.com/tomatoisjp

Edit: Stream over. Just a quickie to finish a few pieces, I'll be doing more of the work when I don't have to finish cleaning my apt.

Just curious as to what I missed being streamed.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on September 16, 2013, 02:25:55 AM
I tried to save it, but for some reason it didn't save like it was supposed to... I basically finished the hat sections (the regular NC hat and the Sun Visor)

Give me a second, I wanna get this stupid save thing working anyway, so I'll do a rotation of each as they currently look

Edit: K, I figured it out. Rotation is just me showing a quick rotation of the heads, Hats is the NC work I did today, and I also added the two dragon dagger streams I recorded.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on September 19, 2013, 04:58:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3KF5kzY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pAbZOXF.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DGAU7HB.jpg)

DOUG IS DONE!!!! Woo!

I expect heíll be going up on Heroforce sometime tomorrow, but in the meantime, have some pictures! Also, Iím gonna quote part of a post I made a week or so ago, mainly so the people who arenít following my tumblr can read it.

Quote
Iíd love to do more renditions of the TGWTG producers, but Iím already kinda committed to doing the Power Rangers thing with Doug and Lewis. That becomes a problem ESPECIALLY if I limit it to the Mighty Morphin Rangers because, at the end of the day, there are only 6 legitimate Rangers, and dozens of amazing producers on TGWTG. Itís not fair for me to pick one over another when they all are worthy of being shown.

I could easily expand it beyond Mighty Morphin into the other eras of Power Rangers, who says which ranger team each person falls into? I prefer the Lightspeed Rescue uniforms over pretty much every other version, but what if the producers I put in those uniforms donít care for that ranger design?

So yeah, my preference is to just avoid the conflict entirely. But if anyone on TGWTG wants to contact me or whatever I'd be totally down with doing more of these.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on September 19, 2013, 01:10:38 PM
Very nice 'Mato. Is the hand crossing animation in the second pic new? I don't think I've ever seen it before.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on September 19, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
No, it's actually from special_pink. I thought it was oddly appropriate for doug.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: windblown on September 25, 2013, 11:26:20 PM
Nostalgia Critic looks fantastic, the face is impressive. I have to say that I hadnít heard of him before, but after a search Iíve found some really funny videos, it has been a great discovery.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 08, 2013, 09:33:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/4sLDZRf.jpg)

Boo.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: spydermann93 on December 08, 2013, 11:24:26 AM
Is that PC Ultraman!? AWESOME! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 08, 2013, 04:55:28 PM
It's always a good thing when I can expand my CSA collection. Excellent work 'Mato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 08, 2013, 05:54:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mGIXJ53.jpg)

Gonna be a bit on this one, having issues with nifconvert... I'm not sure it works on windows 8, I may have to move it to my Virtual PC to get it working.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: detourne_me on December 08, 2013, 06:25:33 PM
Cool. I look forward to seeing what's coming up next.
Yeah windows 8.1 has really put a hamper on my activities too. FFX is unplayable. Nifconvert won't work either.  I have to switch things back and forth between my desktop and net book.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 09, 2013, 12:49:59 AM
Honestly, trying to get that Ultraman skin done was a nightmare. What should have been a hour or so skin turned into a 6 hour mess of updating, restarting, and reinstalling. As some of you know, I had started work on Ultraman before. However, because one of my portable drives died, I lost the nif I previewed before and all skinwork I'd done. However, I still had the max files saved so I could just re-export the collar piece, but to get to it I had to reinstall VirtualBox, which wouldn't load my old virtual pc so I had to make a new one with the old VHD, qhich meant installing a fresh copy of XP and then installing 3ds max 5 again.

Meanwhile, on the real computer side, Windows 8 was giving me issues (after a few minutes any new "windows" that opened would be completely black), so I updated it to 8.1. Paint Shop Pro X4 didn't like 8.1, so while I'm trying to get the max stuff going, I had to go through and get it updated to X6 (thankfully Corel's having a christmas sale) before I could do any work on the skin.

So yeah, fun was had by all. Have a preview of my Owlman skope.

(http://i.imgur.com/3y2J79y.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: vorelliwiseau on December 09, 2013, 01:02:37 AM
Nice, new Owlman! Is this the classic version, the Crisis on Two Earths, or the Forever Evil one?

Also, I am sorry to hear about your Windows troubles. That had to be a very tiring affair - it's why I'm scared to upgrade.

That, and I spent like most of my time and money Christmas shopping.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 09, 2013, 04:07:19 AM
These are Pre-Crisis CSA guys, right, 'Mato?  Neat!  That's a very unique face you've given Ultraman, very fitting for him. 

Yeah, sorry to hear about your troubles man.  That's obnoxious!  I'm glad you finally got things sorted out, though.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 09, 2013, 06:47:20 AM
Nice, new Owlman! Is this the classic version, the Crisis on Two Earths, or the Forever Evil one?

Also, I am sorry to hear about your Windows troubles. That had to be a very tiring affair - it's why I'm scared to upgrade.

That, and I spent like most of my time and money Christmas shopping.

Finishing off the Pre-Crisis versions. If I do more after this, it'll be either heroes (Enigma, Luthor, etc.) or I'll do a few custom creations (such as a second Crime Lodge pack with counterparts of Jay Garrick and Alan Scott). I definitely will NOT be skinning Forever Evil (the story has potential, but I feel like the designs are basically the N52's version of the crime syndicate. Some of them are good, but many aren't as sleek and clean as the original Morrison designs.)

As for JLA Crisis on Earth 2... I love the film, and I do plan to use several of the designs from it (I'm also leaning in that direction for when I do Luthor, since the JLA Earth 2 version wasn't really an antimatter luthor design so much as an homage to the pre-crisis Luthor) but I don't really care to do the core five. I don't really care for the designs all that much, and I'd be retreading ground I've already covered.

As for the computer thing... it's entirely possible, likely even, that windows 8.1 had nothing to do with my issues with X4. I was having some issues with it prior to updating, and the issues I was having with X4 were shared by a few other image programs until I restarted. Besides, X4 had a fairly obnoxious bug with regards to TGAs and alpha channels which X6 doesn't share, so I'm happy to have updated... everything else was a result of not having installed everything to my new computer yet.

These are Pre-Crisis CSA guys, right, 'Mato?  Neat!  That's a very unique face you've given Ultraman, very fitting for him. 

Yeah, sorry to hear about your troubles man.  That's obnoxious!  I'm glad you finally got things sorted out, though.

The rest of them, yes. It took me a bit to figure out what exactly I wanted to do with them... as I mentioned above, I didn't want to retread the same ground with the CSA, but it seemed silly to do Pre-Crisis Johnny and PR without doing Ultraman, Superwoman, and Owlman. The idea I had was that these are the counterparts of the Pre-Crisis Earth 2... gives me a chance to do something a bit different, but still utilizing the classic designs.

Edit: It occurred to me after posting this that the Forever Evil team included more than the core five members, and I do actually like the looks of Atomica and Deathstorm. Aquaman's counterpart is ok (again, I would have settled for it before Cyber and Syn's designs blew me away) but I have an evil Aquaman already, and he doesn't have a seashell on his shoulder.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: vorelliwiseau on December 11, 2013, 11:28:36 AM
Oh, I'd love to see Crisis On Two Earth's Luthor's armor! That's the gold plating-on-black bodysuit one, right?

Anyway, wherever your dice rolls, looking forward to seeing your take on the rest of the CSA-related characters, Tomato. That Crime Lodge pack sounds like an interesting concept.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 12, 2013, 06:36:23 AM
Yeah. It's the one I'm most likely going with, unless the prisoner in Forever Evil is Lex and DC gives us an awesome looking counterpart. Original E3 Luthor is just goofy, Luthor Jr. was forever ruined by Infinite Crisis, and JLA:E2 Luthor was a callback to the silver age lex. The Two Earths costume may not be the best "Heroic Luthor" ever, but it is a really good costume design.

(http://i.imgur.com/NyO6egJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 12, 2013, 03:17:13 PM
I really love the fact that you're doing all this CSA stuff. They're some of my favorite characters (Though I have not read anything new with them in years), so I look forward to seeing these finished and released.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 15, 2013, 10:26:30 AM
The CSA kinda suffers in that, for every really good CSA story out there, there's a Countdown (or worse, JLA: Omega *shudder*). I should probably make a list of what I'd reccommend and what I'd avoid sometime even if I don't get around to reviewing the books themselves, but off the top of my head I'd say "Syndicate Rules" and "Trinity" are both in my top ten Syndicate stories.

(http://i.imgur.com/ilX3Nxo.jpg)

To paraphrase a certain writer whose work I detest... He's the Goshdarn Owlman!

Edit: For those who don't follow all my crazy sub-tumblrs, I posted two separate reviews today, one covering the mess that is countdown, as well as the first half of a Syndicate Rules review.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: AfghanAnt on December 15, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
I'm guessing Pre-Crisis Owlman? I love the face but I always thought he was a lot slimmer in physique.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 16, 2013, 12:38:56 AM
He was. I'm doing something a bit different with Owlman, Superwoman, and Ultraman here... I thought I'd explained it already, but I couldn't find it when I was looking for something to quote, so I guess not.

I have always hated this notion that the Crime Syndicate is constantly changing their costumes around (Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman had variations of the same costume from the Silver Age all the way up to flashpoint, it chafes my nerd britches to see people trying to have the modern CSA outfits evolve from the original E3 costumes). It's one thing to skin the pre-crisis Johnny and Power Ring as counterparts for Hal and Barry (rather than Wally and Kyle/John) but I just could not justify doing the pre-crisis Trinity as though they were supposed to be the same person. The hardcore CSA nerd in me just wouldn't allow it. But the collector in me wanted to finish the set, since I'd already done PR and JQ.

So I compromised: In the Tomatoverse (Damnit, if Benton is allowed to have his own DCU, I'm allowed to have my own Antimatter universes), this Trinity isn't from the Morrsion CSA, they're from the CSA's equivalent of Earth 2. Opens the door for me to do counterparts to the JSA down the line if I want, but still satisfies the "Mcnitpick" part of me that will not accept these costumes as CSA-prime canon.

Owlman was a bit of a problem because Batman really doesn't HAVE an Earth 2 version to emulate. In Earth 2, Batman has retired, leaving Dick Grayson to run around stopping crime. Benton suggested I do something similar with Owlman, but since the entire point of this set was to use the PC Crime Syndicate designs, I'm treating it like Owlman's just donning the costume for one last score. I based his appearance off of various "Old Batmen", particularly TDK and Batman Beyond. The body type is primarily based on his TDK costume in Arkham City/Origins: I felt it was a nice compromised between Miller's exaggerated art style, and Bruce's appearance in Batman Beyond.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: spydermann93 on December 16, 2013, 01:36:35 AM
Tomato,

I want to thank you for, and state that I am loving, your reviews on the CSA and all of its incarnations (the good and the silly :P).  I also really enjoy reading your opinions on the books (I haven't read them before, but you're enticing me to check the Earth-1 CSA :P) and I love these skins and meshes that you're pumping out.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 16, 2013, 01:43:05 AM
Thanks. Hopefully I'll be able to crank out the other half of "Syndicate rules" this week so I can finally talk about the book I've been itching to review since I started this: "JLA: Omega." And boy, we'll have a LOT to talk about then. You might want to get some popcorn ready for that one guys, it's just going to be one giant rant about how much I HATE everything about it. You know your book is just bad when I can hate it with more vehemence than I do "Countdown".
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 17, 2013, 03:21:44 PM
I so can't wait to get my computer back, these CSA skins are awesome. If you don't mind me asking, what mesh did you use as a base (I'm just curious in regards to animations really).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 17, 2013, 03:44:32 PM
It's a sliiightly modified version of the Male_Muscular_TM mesh aka He-Man base mesh. I hexed it a bit to give him the more TDK-esque gorilla arms, but it's all MB compatible, and is on Ren's Owlman keys.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 21, 2013, 03:25:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6qe5Xqj.jpg)

Decided to do an alternate skin that was a bit more "modern Batman"
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on December 21, 2013, 03:56:00 PM
Hi Tomato,

Great CSA designs!  I really like them.  I have always liked the CSA and enjoyed the battles between them and the JLA.  I am thinking, once these are done I may have these guys square off against their Squadron Supreme counter parts in the Rumble Room!   :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 21, 2013, 05:12:50 PM
These are some great skins 'Mato. Not only am I a sucker for anything CSA related, but I'm also a sucker for great facial work, which you have very kindly provided.

Kind of off subject, I don't recall if this has been asked yet, but will you be skinning the versions from the Jusice League animated movie? Sorry if this has been brought up before, but I'm on my wife's IPad, and have a heck of a time navigating with it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 21, 2013, 09:12:04 PM
I did, but wevs. No, I probably won't be doing the animated team. Even ignoring that I generally don't like the costume designs (Owlman and Superwoman are fine, but I really dislike Ultraman, Power Ring and Johnny Quick) I'm kind of burnt out on the main five in general. I'll have done at least 2 versions of each character when this pack comes out, and I need to change it up and do some additional characters. I'll certainly consider others from that movie (J'edd is from the film, and I'm strongly considering going with the Lex Luthor as well, I just wanna see if Forever Evil does anything with him first) but it depends on my mood. I definately want some heroes first, however.

tl;dr: No, probably not. Not the Forever Evil versions either.

However, you or anyone else is free to kittbash my work and make them yourselves.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Podmark on December 22, 2013, 01:39:52 AM
That Owlman is coming along nicely Tomato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 22, 2013, 03:27:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/HOoZurS.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/xT3rbzo.jpg)

Aaaand done. Also, just to preemptively answer some questions that only I would ever ask:

-I didn't include the gun pouch seen in most classic appearances & the DC Direct figure because it's not present in the George Perez artwork of the character in Crisis on Infinite Earths. Since that's the last canon appearance of the character, I chose to leave it off.
-I went with Quitely Owlman symbol rather than the classic belt buckle because Renegades's Owlman mesh makes use of the belt buckle for a ranged animation.
-The reason for the alternate color scheme, beyond simple aesthetics, is due to the fact that Batman went through a similar color change after of Owlman's original appearance. As I mentioned, I don't accept the mentality that the CSA uniforms can constantly change when the JLA costumes really haven't, but I can justify it since a similar change legitimately DID happen to Batman.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: spydermann93 on December 22, 2013, 06:57:17 AM
Oh, man! I am so psyched for these skins and meshes! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: vorelliwiseau on December 22, 2013, 08:59:12 AM
Love those accessories, Tomato! Great work all around.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 22, 2013, 02:10:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/7MDg421.jpg)

This is a fairly early WIP (still need to age up the face/hair, and mesh out the insignia piece.) but the last one in the pack is coming along. I'd maybe have tried to finish it over the course of today, but my real job has people calling out left and right because hey, why bother showing up for your scheduled work times when people who should have the weekend off can be strongarmed into doing some overtime. So yeah, I'm gonna try and take a nap, blah.

Of note: I was considering doing the more bun-ish haircut (sorry I'm not a guru of women's hairstyle names) of E3 Superwoman's early appearances, but again, Perez' artwork depicts her with a more traditional hairstyle.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: windblown on December 22, 2013, 03:16:30 PM
Very nice! I really like Owlmanís face.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 23, 2013, 07:36:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zV4WajN.jpg)

I've still got some work to do here, but in the meantime, I've put a lot of thought into what I want to skin after finishing this pack. For better or worse, I've decided to hold off, temporarily mind you, on the CSA stuff. This is not because I'm any less fanatical about doing the CSA, oh no... I fully intend to do these skin packs until I am old, buried, and turned into a zombie that delights in feasting on the hearts of Scott Lobdell and those like him. But the next skin on my to-do list is quite obviously the "last" hero to stand against the Crime Syndicate, Lex Luthor. He was the only other character in the original Earth 3, and has been a fundamental part of most later stories involving the Syndicate. But since I believe that the cloaked prisoner with the CSA is their Luthor, I'm gonna hold off until he's revealed.

In the meantime... I've decided to switch gears and do a few marvel skins. I'm not going to tell who he is yet, but those who have been reading my Antimato blog might be able to figure it out. Even for those who aren't reading it, it might be pretty obvious who they are.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's Pandering Time (09/09/13)
Post by: detourne_me on December 23, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
oooh, she nyaaasty!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Deaths Jester on December 23, 2013, 03:12:23 PM
'Mato, not to make this sound wrong or such but Superwoman looks a bit like she needs some exlax or maybe some wrinkle cream.....
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 23, 2013, 06:15:31 PM
After reading your AntiMato blog, I would love to see updates to some of those characters (Though nothing against Pod's skins, because I loved those).

As to Super Woman, is her rope usable in the animations?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 27, 2013, 04:09:26 PM
oooh, she nyaaasty!
'Mato, not to make this sound wrong or such but Superwoman looks a bit like she needs some exlax or maybe some wrinkle cream.....

This is supposed to be a Superwoman running around in her 60s or 70s (aka: about the same age as E2 Superman before the n52 reboot). My intent was to make her look like... well, an old whore, tbh.

After reading your AntiMato blog, I would love to see updates to some of those characters (Though nothing against Pod's skins, because I loved those).

Not that I don't love one-uping Podmark, the skins I'm planning on doing have not been done by anyone else before. at least as far as I'm aware

As to Super Woman, is her rope usable in the animations?

Kind of/not really? I based both Superwoman skopes on AA's Wonder Woman, so it does have lasso animations, but the lasso at her belt doesn't disappear for those animations.

(http://i.imgur.com/WXSCgON.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Podmark on December 27, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
Well you've certainly captured the aged look you were after. And I love that winged logo, did you make that yourself?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 27, 2013, 09:50:42 PM
Well you've certainly captured the aged look you were after. And I love that winged logo, did you make that yourself?

Eeeyup. Based on artwork by George Perez.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: detourne_me on December 28, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
She is pretty freaking awesome Tomato. I didn't mean to offend.  I was thinking that that was something Donna from Parks and Rec would say. 

Once she's released I may try to skope on a lasso for the animations, following windblowns tutorial if that interests you.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on December 28, 2013, 07:16:58 PM
Offend? I wasn't offended, that was exactly the reaction I wanted. You were right, she's SUPPOSED to look nasty, that's the entire point.

That's fine, but wouldn't it be better to just animate it so the one on her belt is removed, that way you can use an FX lasso during the animation? *shrug* If you do that though, it might be worth doing it on the already released version first, since this one is based on the same skope and they're both based on AA's Wonder Woman.

Edit: Hrm, it just occurred to me... you might not be able to skope the animations using windblown's tutorial. I made both skopes with the intent that they be  :ff: compatible, whereas windblown's tutorial is  :ffvstr: based.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: laughing paradox on December 28, 2013, 08:03:44 PM
The insignia looks cool.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 28, 2013, 09:40:58 PM
Superwoman looks fantastic. But like I said, I am a sucker for anything CSA.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: AfghanAnt on January 02, 2014, 07:06:41 PM
I just grabs all of the CSA work and I'm really impressed with them. You can tell this collection was labor of love.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on January 03, 2014, 07:24:17 PM
Thanks guys, I appreciated it.

For those who haven't seen it, I've released the first (fingers crossed on more, right?) CLA pack on heroforce a week or so ago. I'm hard at work on the next few skins/meshes already, and I'm super excited for posting them... but for once, I'm going to hold off on previews until I'm basically done.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: spydermann93 on January 04, 2014, 12:09:09 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciated it.

For those who haven't seen it, I've released the first (fingers crossed on more, right?) CLA pack on heroforce a week or so ago. I'm hard at work on the next few skins/meshes already, and I'm super excited for posting them... but for once, I'm going to hold off on previews until I'm basically done.

Darn!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on January 04, 2014, 10:03:10 PM
So, I couldn't stop myself... Having finally finished the meshwork (and some of the skinwork) I HAD to show off what I've been working on. That said, this will probably be the only preview I do until the skin is done.

(http://i.imgur.com/sQ0zhZ8.jpg)

Hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Podmark on January 05, 2014, 05:25:21 AM
Well I'm pretty sure I know what you're up to ;)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on January 05, 2014, 10:06:37 AM
Yeah, it's almost like I named myself after him for years :P

In all seriousness, I'm actually almost done, just have a few extras to finish up (amazing what I can do when I'm not posting previews every five minutes, huh?). I should be able to crank out the rest of it either tonight or tomorrow depending on how late I sleep in.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: AfghanAnt on January 05, 2014, 02:15:49 PM
Can't wait to see a full preview.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Something Super (12/23/13)
Post by: Tomato on January 05, 2014, 07:59:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ecnZsHv.png)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Podmark on January 05, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
Awesome.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 05, 2014, 09:01:18 PM
Oh man! That is cool!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: spydermann93 on January 05, 2014, 10:13:26 PM
That is flippin' sweet, Tomato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 06, 2014, 04:19:51 AM
More images up on Tumblr.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: AfghanAnt on January 06, 2014, 03:20:57 PM
Is this your Red Ant character with a new design?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 06, 2014, 03:25:07 PM
OHHHHH...Antman during his "armoured" time with the FF...nice!!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: AfghanAnt on January 06, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
OHHHHH...Antman during his "armoured" time with the FF...nice!!!

Is that who this is? I've never seen this design before.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 06, 2014, 07:06:08 PM
OHHHHH...Antman during his "armoured" time with the FF...nice!!!

Ummm... what? No DJ.

This is quite literally the A-next/MC2 version of Scott Lang, aka Antman. He only showed up as Antman in issue #8 of the original A-next series (though he's been an important member of the supporting cast, since his daughter was a founding member of the new team), but it left such a huge impression on me at the time that I chose my original username based on him. Ink and I came up with Red Ant later on, because I couldn't exactly claim a trademarked character "mine" when it came to the big events and things.

 (http://i.imgur.com/bsr7S95.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: laughing paradox on January 06, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
Nice job on Ants.

I really like A-Next and wanted to skin the whole team for a long while. I even liked the evil Pincer version they introduced later on.

I have an American Dream skope just collecting dust on my laptop.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: ghazkul on January 07, 2014, 12:09:01 AM
Always loved the MC2 series. Skinned a version of Stinger not long ago, nice to see the previous generation looking so good.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Podmark on January 07, 2014, 02:08:33 AM
If anyone goes and looks at my oldest skins they'll see that I was a huge fan of the MC2 stuff, especially Spider-Girl. I always think about going back and updating those skins.
So I'm really happy to see the A-Next Ant-Man get a great skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: windblown on January 08, 2014, 01:22:14 AM
I'd never seen that design before. The skin looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 08, 2014, 05:31:14 AM
I was going to do the same thing with this next skin... but eff it.

(http://i.imgur.com/cWQaAG2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: AfghanAnt on January 08, 2014, 02:18:58 PM
I love the teeth but I have zero clue who this is.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 08, 2014, 03:10:06 PM
Wait..is that the Nazi version of Antman that they did in A-Next?!?!?!  Ohhhh...pretty!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 08, 2014, 03:13:45 PM
OHHHHH...Antman during his "armoured" time with the FF...nice!!!

Ummm... what? No DJ.

This is quite literally the A-next/MC2 version of Scott Lang, aka Antman. He only showed up as Antman in issue #8 of the original A-next series (though he's been an important member of the supporting cast, since his daughter was a founding member of the new team), but it left such a huge impression on me at the time that I chose my original username based on him. Ink and I came up with Red Ant later on, because I couldn't exactly claim a trademarked character "mine" when it came to the big events and things.

 (http://i.imgur.com/bsr7S95.jpg)

Actually he did wear this type of costume for a time in Earth-616 too. See? (http://www.comicvine.com/images/1300-245705)  It wasn't worn for a long time though.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 08, 2014, 07:10:52 PM
... DJ's right two times in a row?


...


Darn it, now I need a drink.

(http://i.imgur.com/gT7jwzv.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 08, 2014, 07:50:40 PM
Geez 'Mato, the level of detail on that is just epic.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: laughing paradox on January 09, 2014, 09:39:30 PM
Cool, Pincer. Now that's a character I never thought I'd see in the game.

Going to do more A-Next stuff?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 10, 2014, 05:02:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/YeMxDtX.jpg)

Not exactly? I miiiight have one more A-next skin in me (I probably do, but no promises), but even if I do, it'll be just the one more. I decided to do these after getting a bit nostalgic, but I don't have nearly the attachment to the MC2 universe that I do with the Crime Syndicate stuff.

That said, I remember trying to skin the first one back in the day... but in the dark days before nifskope or even a decent amount of quality meshes, the best mesh to try and make this skin on was "The_Ant." I never managed to get that skin to a point I was happy with it, so this skin was dedicated to that little kid in me. If that stupid kid, who felt so lonely due to his reputation, who couldn't skin worth a darn... if that little kid could see what I've done here, and how far he's come this last decade... he'd probably break down in tears.

So yeah, this skin is literally as much FOR AntmanAnext as it IS AntmanAnext.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Podmark on January 10, 2014, 05:26:11 AM
Pincer looks awesome. That face is just great, and I love metal effects.
I just barely see the Ant-Man resemblance. If I wasn't paying attention I'd completely miss that Pincer was Scott Lang.

Great job on these Tomato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: vorelliwiseau on January 10, 2014, 08:05:17 AM
The skinning on this is so superb. How do you make the textures on those accessories so well-defined, Tomato?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 10, 2014, 03:07:18 PM
... DJ's right two times in a row?


...


Darn it, now I need a drink.



What?!?!  It's what happens when you bring about Marvel Comics...am an old school fan...not so sure about the more recent stuff but the older stuff is my specialty!!  And if you're going to have a drink, you best well share!!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 10, 2014, 03:58:21 PM
posting the images I did on tumblr in spoilers

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The skinning on this is so superb. How do you make the textures on those accessories so well-defined, Tomato?

It helps that I made the mapping on 90% of them, but I'm unsure of what you mean, exactly. If you mean the edge lines... I used vectors for most of the edges on Pinser and Antman, but once I was happy with them I rasterized them and ran over them with a lighten/darken tool to give them a bit of extra definition.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: ShortFuse on January 10, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Great work as always Tomato.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: windblown on January 11, 2014, 10:02:12 PM
Wow, that's awesome, the teeth and the metal texture are fantastic.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Bloodshadow on January 12, 2014, 07:11:27 PM
Awesome mesh & skin work Tomato :blink:
I love Antman Anext especially,very cool! :cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 12, 2014, 08:42:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JfOrVHu.jpg)

So I am breaking down and doing Stinger (really, did you think the third would be anyone else?) but... because I'm having to manually modify many of the animations, it's going to take me awhile.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: ShortFuse on January 12, 2014, 09:56:22 PM
Sweeeeet!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: crimsonquill on January 13, 2014, 02:05:50 AM
Should have figured that Stinger was next based on your revisit to MC2 characters!  :doh:

Fantastic work on Antman and his evil counterpart and Stinger looks great so far.

- CQ
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 13, 2014, 10:07:53 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/i0yH9g3.jpg)

Still have a ton of behind the scenes work to do on this one before it's releasable (half the animations need to modified to work how I want them to) and I still need to do the stingers, but it's coming along nicely.

Also: Since DC is still being a gigantic tease about the identity of the prisoner, I'm having to find other skins to do other than CSA stuff for the moment. And well, since I've just finished Scott Lang, it seems only right that I do another of Pym's successors next. And wouldn't you know it, I've been thinking about my own take on one such successor floating around in my head for ages.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: laughing paradox on January 13, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
Stinger looks really nice.

I think I'm going to tackle a bunch of the A-Next characters. That shirt around J2's waist is going to annoy me, though.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 14, 2014, 01:16:37 AM
In case I haven't said it before, I really love seeing characters from alternate realities. I am really looking forward to seeing this group get released.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Podmark on January 14, 2014, 06:18:44 AM
She's looking great! I always liked Stinger a lot. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Another of Pym's successors eh? Hmm...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 14, 2014, 07:58:01 AM
In case I haven't said it before, I really love seeing characters from alternate realities. I am really looking forward to seeing this group get released.

That might be a bit... I'm having to manually modify every single animation on Stinger (Animations with her at full height need the wings shrunk down, animations with her shrunk down had to be corrected for height, and any animation with her transitioning between sizes had to be edited) so while I've got got most of the work done (down to the last few dozen animations) it's a tedious, boring, annoying process and it's gonna take a few days to finish.

Skin's done though

(http://i.imgur.com/XIaS0NC.jpg)

For the stingers, I decided to base them off the artwork from "Last Hero Standing," mainly because that was the simplest iteration of them. And yeah, that's me being flat out lazy, but I would remind people that I am doing manual edits to every single animation.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 14, 2014, 03:16:14 PM
Lazy, lazy 'Mato...going with the easiest Stingers...hmph....
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: ShortFuse on January 14, 2014, 04:23:45 PM
Awesome work. Can't wait to see her in action.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: AfghanAnt on January 14, 2014, 04:37:15 PM
Why didn't you mesh the stingers? I think it would have added a lot.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 15, 2014, 05:20:13 AM
Why didn't you mesh the stingers? I think it would have added a lot.

Exhaustion, honestly. There's an issue with the female_tm2 mesh that forced me to spend a good couple hours fighting just to get the helmet to work properly (I need to go back and re-physique the whole mesh, I just don't have time ATM), plus about 10+ hours of fighting with the keyframe animations (which still is not completely done) and I'm doing everything I can to save myself from going into burnout on this one. I may revisit it later and do something a bit nicer, but for now I'm just ready to be done with it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 16, 2014, 03:07:01 PM
Why didn't you mesh the stingers? I think it would have added a lot.

Exhaustion, honestly. There's an issue with the female_tm2 mesh that forced me to spend a good couple hours fighting just to get the helmet to work properly (I need to go back and re-physique the whole mesh, I just don't have time ATM), plus about 10+ hours of fighting with the keyframe animations (which still is not completely done) and I'm doing everything I can to save myself from going into burnout on this one. I may revisit it later and do something a bit nicer, but for now I'm just ready to be done with it.

Sounds like it's time to put it aside for awhile and rest, if you're starting to burnout, that's what I'm doing a the moment before jumping back into the alphabet.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 17, 2014, 12:13:29 AM
Agreed, the last thing the Community needs is another major contributor burning out and leaving the game.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 17, 2014, 05:47:42 AM
It's less a matter of me leaving the game, and more... well, I more or less did Stinger on a whim (I like the character, but of the skins I've done over the last few months she's the one I had least motivation to do) and then it's just been issue after issue and I'm at the point where I just want the thing done, even if it's not up to my normal standards. I've already put more time into Stinger than into Antman and Pinser combined, and I just want to move on to stuff I have more enthusiasm to do.

Edit: I made a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkzZ9FnlVcc) of me doing edits on a few animations to showcase why this has been so draining for me.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Epimethee on January 18, 2014, 01:45:51 AM
If you need to repeat the same edit, couldn't you automate the tedious job by using a command-line tool? (I seem to remember Stumpy releasing something along these lines, but I might be wrong. Anyway, there is the PyFFI library which came with NifSkope.)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2014, 05:29:24 AM
Except I'm using mouse movements and keystrokes, and by the time I could figure out how to use any of those things I'd be done already.

Speaking of, I'm finally done. Starting to make previews and portraits and junk for a release sometime this weekend.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: detourne_me on January 18, 2014, 01:37:27 PM
I'm glad you're finally done, your voice was pretty weary from that video.thanks for your hard work man.

Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2014, 03:26:16 PM
Well, to be honest, I'd just come off a particularly bad shift at work too... and I haven't been feeling great besides (been "almost sick" all week... Enough so that I've felt physically drained, but no actual symptoms or anything that made it worth staying home. And now that it's my weekend off, I finally seem to have gotten sick. Fun times)

But yeah, I'm happy it's done. We're celebrating my mom's birthday today so I doubt I'll get everything up tonight, but I have a 3 day weekend to get everything finished and maybe get the next skin going. I've been looking forward to this one a lot (another reason I lost interest in Stinger halfway through) so I'm excited to get started.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on January 18, 2014, 03:28:28 PM
Tomato,

Thank you for all you do!  I love seeing the characters you come up with.  Your hard work and attention to detail is always appreciated!

Take care my friend.

Respectfully,
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2014, 11:15:49 PM
I was going to do some work getting Scott and Cassie released today, but I've been itching to get started on the next skin. Who is that you ask... well, you get one clue.

Of all the identities Henry Pym has adopted, only one of them is... Irredeemable.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: The Original AA (01/05/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 20, 2014, 05:10:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Z7EnbF3.jpg)

What SHOULD have been done with the character after they brought Lang back.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: detourne_me on January 20, 2014, 06:07:44 AM
Woah!
And that really makes more sense for O'Grady too, as the irredeemable suit relied more on tech, just like Yellowjacket originally had the flight and singers. 
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Podmark on January 20, 2014, 06:43:45 AM
That is a sweet design! I was sad when O'Grady died, but I did like the Black Ant. This would have been a cool direction though.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 23, 2014, 04:23:25 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Fy3TGIm.gif)











 :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 23, 2014, 05:04:18 AM
Tease...I thought I was hallucinating at first.  :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Bloodshadow on January 31, 2014, 04:51:24 AM
Holy crap! :blink:
That Yellowjacket design is the coolest!Very nice Tomato :cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: ShortFuse on January 31, 2014, 11:04:13 PM
Tease...I thought I was hallucinating at first.  :P

I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw that. I thought I was trippin'.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Tomato on January 31, 2014, 11:32:58 PM
I used to have my avatar blink at people. I'd laugh at how freaked out people got.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on February 01, 2014, 05:23:02 PM
Tomato, very nice!  I love the Yellow Jacket redesign. :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 01, 2014, 06:01:22 PM
I used to have my avatar blink at people. I'd laugh at how freaked out people got.

Hmmm, I seem to remember reading somewhere that there was a way to have random pics used for your Avatar pic, wish I could find that again. But is that what you did when you made your Avatar blink?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Tomato on February 01, 2014, 08:39:46 PM
No, I just made an animated image file

<------Like that.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: laughing paradox on February 02, 2014, 04:12:19 AM
I thought I commented on this already. The Yellowjacket redesign looks cool.

Have you considered using a different lightmap? The reflection seems a little 'loud'.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Helix on February 02, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
The design is amazing as usual, Tomato! But are my eyes bad or are the gauntlets and boot flaps not done yet? That's not a sarcastic question, I promise. They look solid black to me.  Also, that doesn't look like your base mesh. Is that Tommy's? I apologize if you've answered that question already. I haven't been here much lately.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: windblown on February 02, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
Cool Yellow Jacket design!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Tomato on February 02, 2014, 06:32:57 PM
The design is amazing as usual, Tomato! But are my eyes bad or are the gauntlets and boot flaps not done yet? That's not a sarcastic question, I promise. They look solid black to me.  Also, that doesn't look like your base mesh. Is that Tommy's? I apologize if you've answered that question already. I haven't been here much lately.

I'm still working on it, so yeah, they're not done yet. Also yes, that IS tommy's base mesh... about the only thing I meshed are the wings.

For everyone wondering about this... I'm kind of in burnout, I guess? It's weird because I still want to work on this, I can still sit down to do it, and have even done a bit of work... but every time I sit down to actually skin I get tired after maybe 15-20 minutes. It's bizarre.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 02, 2014, 08:52:49 PM
Wow, 'Mato!  You've done a bunch of REALLY beautiful skins of costumes I haven't seen before.  That was really cool, seeing all these alternate designs realized so well.  I really like that spikey Antman design, though it feels more like something from MoTU than the Avengers for me.  It is just a neat design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Irredeemable (01/20/14)
Post by: Tomato on July 06, 2014, 08:11:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Q8DkAaI.jpg)

Been in burnout, but I felt like making this on a whim.

*teleports away again*
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Cakeless (07/06/14)
Post by: Podmark on July 06, 2014, 08:18:57 PM
Well...I have no idea who he is, but the skin looks great! The colours and highlights look about perfect and the logo is crisp. Glasses are pretty funny.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Cakeless (07/06/14)
Post by: Cyber Burn on July 06, 2014, 08:56:14 PM
Agreed, the glasses are definitely a trip, and I like how it looks like the shirt is a little bit too small at the sleeves.

Glad to see you Skinning again, even if it's only a one time deal.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Cakeless (07/06/14)
Post by: Tomato on July 07, 2014, 04:42:13 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/6NYUHQQ.jpg)

Still got awhile to go on this one (logo, hair, collar highlight) but I didn't feel right doing one of these guys without doing the other.

Achievement to anyone who does know without Calebing
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Cakeless (07/06/14)
Post by: Tomato on July 07, 2014, 05:11:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/0OIkLiK.jpg)

Finished the second of the lads. I might have one more in me, but it all depends on whether I can settle on a definitive design for him.

Also, since Cyber pointed out the sleeves thing on the first skin:

(http://i.imgur.com/IluRx6I.jpg)

Bonus shot of the first one unmasked.

(http://i.imgur.com/wY5cxlP.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: detourne_me on July 08, 2014, 02:21:01 AM
These guys are pretty cool, are they some more YouTube guys?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on July 08, 2014, 05:06:21 AM
Det, I can't just give you the Achievement. You have to Hunt for the identity of the Lads!

(But seriously, I am just riddling these posts with keywords. The thread titles alone should lead you in the right direction)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: detourne_me on July 08, 2014, 05:59:26 AM
Hahahaha  I've got it now!  I've only ever watched one video of that particular show, when they were skydiving in GTAV.

I feel like such a chicken, but i'm hanging on by the skin of my teeth.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Outcast on July 08, 2014, 06:30:38 AM
Originally i thought they were some original design creations by Tomato. But going by the keyword clues, i think i found where Tomato got the costume design and the reference (partially photoskinned?) faces of the men wearing them. Still pretty cool.  :cool:

http://33.media.tumblr.com/6ad0ee1689f2f7b11f14933258cf7193/tumblr_mq2d47HwQu1rzq3e9o1_500.png (http://33.media.tumblr.com/6ad0ee1689f2f7b11f14933258cf7193/tumblr_mq2d47HwQu1rzq3e9o1_500.png)

Not sure if they are from Roosterteeth store, or have anything to do with being Achievement hunters? :huh:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on July 08, 2014, 02:53:05 PM
Oh no, the faces are photo skinned. The characters are "X-Ray and Vav," which is a looooong running joke between Gavin and Ray of Achievement Hunter (the video game sister site to Roosterteeth, creators of Red Vs Blue and RWBY). As for the other references...

Lads- The six main members of Achievement Hunter will often split into two teams for lets plays, with the older players on one side ("Team Gents") and the younger members (Ray, Gavin, and Michael) on the other as "Team Lads"

Cakeless- In one of the minecraft lets plays, they had a couple pieces of cake down to help restore your health. Ray chose to forgo the cake, and "I'm going Cakeless" was then a meme. And also a shirt.

People like Grapes- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1QRxumbmtM
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: UnkoMan on August 03, 2014, 06:38:35 AM
Augh. I missed a ton of awesome skins.
I got to say, though, I freakin' love that Yellow Jacket design.
Actually, all these are great. Dang.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: murs47 on August 07, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
These are really good. 'Specialy that yellow Ant-Man. Well done, you single seeded tomato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on November 28, 2014, 02:36:39 AM
Couldn't think of a better way to celebrate X-ray and Vav's premiere (http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=10070) than to release the skins. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: spydermann93 on November 28, 2014, 02:42:29 AM
Great work, Tomato! :thumbup:

Can't wait to check these out in-game!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Outcast on November 28, 2014, 03:28:26 PM
That video premiere of Xray and Vav was very entertaining Tomato. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to see the next episode too.

It's nice to finally see the skins and hex/skope up close using the character tool. :)

Just a slight critique on their capes though. I noticed that their feet passes/overlaps their capes in certain animations like flying and running.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on November 29, 2014, 04:26:34 AM
I think it might just be an animation issue... I've tried them with keyframes meant for male_cape meshes, and it works fine. I'll try to get a hold of Ren's male_cape compatible Superman keyframes and reupload them.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Outcast on November 29, 2014, 04:04:57 PM
I think it might just be an animation issue... I've tried them with keyframes meant for male_cape meshes, and it works fine. I'll try to get a hold of Ren's male_cape compatible Superman keyframes and reupload them.

Thanks, the male_cape keyframes did the trick and fixed the animations. Didn't realize their meshes were compatible with other keyframes besides the one that came with it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on November 29, 2014, 04:32:05 PM
If it's something I've done, I almost always make it compatible with any Male_basic style keys, unless specifically stated in the readme
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Outcast on November 29, 2014, 06:22:58 PM
I'll try to keep that in mind next time.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on November 29, 2014, 06:39:03 PM
You're fine, it was something I really should have been paying attention to anyway. The release has Male_Cape keys now, so there shouldn't be any more problems.

(but yeah, I try to keep my meshes/skopes open to whatever keys people want to use, for the same reason I leave most of them as FF even though I personally only use FFv3R... so they can do what they want with them.)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 07, 2014, 09:10:14 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/HNyRKHg.jpg)

WIP. Will probably do his boss as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: People like grapes (07/07/14)
Post by: AfghanAnt on December 07, 2014, 01:22:56 PM
WIP. Will probably do his boss as well.
No clue who this is but cool photoskin.

EDIT: Cool autocorrected to color. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 07, 2014, 10:52:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2Q8AIS0.jpg)

It's progressing. I've still got one more piece I need to mesh (I don't even know what to call it, but it's part of the kilt I believe) and then I need to skin the rest of the extra mesh pieces.

That said, I want to point out that I think I must hate myself a lot right now, because I seem to keep making decisions that make my life harder. Skinning on the plaid was a pain by itself (and by pain, I mean I spent a good hour or so trying to figure out how to adapt a 2d plaid texture to look correct on a 3 dimensional object) but then some stupid part of my brain went "oh, lets add ridges to the socks, it'll make them more interesting visually" and then I spent way too freaking long adding straight lines to the knee-high socks.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: WyldFyre on December 08, 2014, 11:35:40 AM
Yes but, they DO look more interesting visually.  And I, for one, appreciate all the little details that you put in.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: SickAlice on December 08, 2014, 04:11:20 PM
Agreed with that. Using fabrics is just a better look. I'm a slacker and tend to just toss a pattern on there or use a texture filter and it doesn't end up as sharp looking as what you've done here. And nah, it's not a stupid part of brain. It's your adept analytical side. I have a detailed dress to do this week and I'm already plotting how to remap the models textures just so the end texture will have the least amount of stretching. It just makes sense to do it the way you choose to. Nice job on this.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: daglob on December 08, 2014, 11:12:37 PM
If you mean that thingie in the front it's called a sporran. Someone told me once it was like a purse (no pockets in the kilt), but he may have been pulling my leg.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 09, 2014, 06:50:05 AM
Ah, that makes sense. I'm basing this off a cartoon, and so at the time it just looked like this weird tie floating in front of the kilt (it doesn't help that you don't see it most of the time he's in frame).

(http://i.imgur.com/te94EuR.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/IonnPWs.jpg)

Ryan Haywood, aka The Mad King has arrived! I'm gonna hold off on any sort of release for the time being, since I've already started preliminary work on Geo... I mean... the Corpirate. Since 90% of the actual work will just be the face, it shouldn't take too long to knock out though (No, seriously, I've got the rest of the skin done already. Did it while I was feeling a bit burned out on The Mad King.)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: AfghanAnt on December 09, 2014, 07:06:58 AM
So what is this from?  :huh:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 09, 2014, 07:28:36 AM
http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=10104&carousel=6&cid=1
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: Outcast on December 09, 2014, 02:07:06 PM
Cool! Soon you can now pit X-ray and Vav against the villains in their show. :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: You don't understand. Edgar is the one in the hole (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 09, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Wo5ckru.jpg)

still working on this, but it's coming along. I might have more tonight, but I have to work.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 10, 2014, 02:46:04 AM
I have to admit, it's really cool seeing these Characters getting made that are just out there. It one of the things that I really appreciate about Daglob as well, Characters that would normally never see the light of day are being introduced into the FF Universe. It's just fantastic.  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 10, 2014, 05:38:38 AM
Well, it helps that I've been a HUGE Achievement Hunter fan since well before the series started (the X-Ray and Vav skins are based on the real costumes that the two wore for extra life) and almost all the characters have thus far been winks and nods to the Achievement Hunter crew. Corpirate here is actually played by Gavin and Ray's boss, Geoff Ramsey (who, for those not aware, also voices Grif from Red Vs Blue)

Also:

(http://i.imgur.com/oXGjWLF.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/AAZJsgs.jpg)

With that, he and Ryan are just about ready for release, I've just gotta get a few things together. I'll probably hold off until friday for the actual release, to coincide with X-ray and Vav's third episode.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 11, 2014, 06:42:29 AM
Or I'll do it today, since I can't sleep and I got all the portraits and stuff done really quickly. For those curious, I'd like to keep doing more of the X-ray and Vav characters (I'd like to at least cover the core 6 AH crew) but I'll be doing so on a character by character basis.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Outcast on December 11, 2014, 06:47:58 AM
I'm not familiar with all of the crew. But i'm interested to see who they are and what they look like. :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 11, 2014, 07:02:14 AM
I'm not familiar with all of the crew. But i'm interested to see who they are and what they look like. :)

I am too, actually! I know who the final two members are, obviously (Michael Jones and Jack Patillo) but who their characters in the show will be and what form they'll take in the show is still up in the air. They've had a pretty clear Lads vs Gents thing going on so far, so I THINK Jack will be another villain, and Michael will show up as an ally... but I honestly have no idea.  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Outcast on December 11, 2014, 07:10:41 AM
Well, that is something to look forward to ain't it? I'll be eagerly anticipating what they'll come up with then and seeing them in the cartoons as well.  :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Podmark on December 12, 2014, 05:07:38 AM
First: I don't know who these are.

Second: The face work is amazing! And the kilt. Really these are just excellent skins.

Third: did you mesh an eyepatch?! If so I guess I have to add Fury to my list. No other choice.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 12, 2014, 07:02:17 AM
Responding to these in reverse order, since the first one requires a bit more explanation. Regarding the eyepatch, I made a request thread for one first, as I had with the kilt (which was from Gren's Malekith mesh) and it turned out SlickAlice had made one for a N52 Deathstroke skin/skope. I manipulated it a bit to suit the skope (and export/reimport it since I work in FF1), but the piece was pretty much exactly what I needed and was a huuuuge help. But yes, had it come to it, I would have probably meshed an eyepatch. The skope is up here (http://catman.freedomforceforever.com/pages/dc.html).

As for who these are... hooo boy, that's a whole thing. The short answer is that these are the villains for the online animated series "X-Ray and Vav" which just released its third episode. Whole series is up on Rooster Teeth (http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=10070&v=more) and it's been a fun watch so far. The long answer is that all these characters are based on long running gags from within Achievement Hunter, which I will go into with loving detail in spoilers because I am a nerd like that shut up.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Podmark on December 12, 2014, 11:27:57 PM
I did see your request after making my post (not keeping up with FR the way I want lately). So thanks to Sick Alice, that is a great eyepatch.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: ghazkul on December 13, 2014, 09:22:46 PM
Love the series ^^ doing the prof and ORRB?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on December 14, 2014, 12:40:42 AM
I've been holding off on whether to do Hilda and ORF (I'm assuming that's who you were referring to) only because I haven't really been wowed by the two characters yet. Don't get me wrong, I love Barbara's ORF, but Hilda really hasn't wowed me as a character... I love Lindsay (who voices the character) but Hilda just feels more like a plot device than a person so far.

That said, even thinking about it just now has given me a few nifty ideas, so I wouldn't rule them out either. I think part of me has been waiting to see if we get a Mogar to pair with her.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on May 20, 2015, 05:24:40 PM
Sooo... bit of an anti-update for you guys... if any of you have been following my recent exploits on tumblr/facebook, I started having issues with my computer's ability to access wifi. I eventually resorted to rebooting windows (I've done it before) and just reinstalling all my programs. Unfortunately, I tried something a bit new (refreshing, as windows calls it) and it did some things I'm not thrilled about... like wiping my entire program files folder and all my Freedom Force stuff with it.

Granted, it doesn't hurt me as much as it might have (pretty much everything I have is online anyway, including my bases) but it does hurt a LOT, and it probably means I won't be getting back into skinning anytime in the near future. Heck, I don't even know if I have access to my virtual pc+max5 anymore.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Podmark on May 21, 2015, 05:17:43 AM
Ouch! That is brutal Tom, I live in fear of things like that.
Any hope of recovering the files? Maybe one of our tech savvy members can help.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on May 21, 2015, 06:55:15 PM
Honestly, the loss of the files isn't that big of a deal... I lost the high resolution source files for a few skins, and a couple of minor projects I doubt I'd have ever finished anyway. Everything else is available on heroforce where I can redownload it.

The bigger loss, honestly, is the game itself. The copy I had came from steam, which means I can just redownload it, but because its the steam version I have to go through a bunch of extra effort getting the registry settings set up for ffedit, getting all the add-ons reinstalled, etc. That's a ton of effort for a game I'm not making content for anyway, making it harder for me to just jump in when I do get an itch.

Never say never though. Xray and vav season 2 is in the works, and that'll probably get me going again.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: SickAlice on May 22, 2015, 04:12:44 AM
That bites, sorry about your luck. I'm on purchased disk copy four and I treat that sucker like it's literal Heart Of Existence. It remains in a lock box in my families main house with the rest of the hoard only to ever breathed upon should I need it. Best of luck and godspeed getting everything in order again Tomato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: UnkoMan on June 02, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
Tomato, noooo!!
Your skins are so great. So good to see. Yes, I still occasionally lurk.
I hope you get back in. You are a pillar.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: BentonGrey on June 07, 2015, 02:25:52 AM
Ohh no, man!  That's terrible!  I'm glad that it wasn't too huge a loss.  These were some really nice skins you've been working on lately.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Yarrgarita (12/07/14)
Post by: Tomato on July 18, 2015, 05:36:24 PM
Never say never though. Xray and vav season 2 is in the works, and that'll probably get me going again.

So Episode one of X-ray and Vav just came out for sponsors, and I'm super happy. I've been slowly working on this since earlier in the week, but I'm finally ready to unveil the first WIP of Hilda (I've started on Mogar as well, but I had to wait until I had a good shot of him to finish it, and I wanted to get Hilda/Orf done first)

(http://i.imgur.com/UlQNGHa.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2016, 04:50:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/INl6GgL.png)

Long story short, with TUE posting a whole bunch of new skins (including what miiiight be an updated Tomato? It looks to me like it is, but I haven't got a copy of his original to check against it), which caused me to go back and look at my old Tomato variants. I saw this one and I realized some of my friends hadnít seen it or the oath before, but OCD fool that I am, I decided to tweak the skin a bit instead of just taking the easy route and just taking a quick screencap.

I'll be honest, I will likely never release this update (it's not even worth reuploading) but I thought ya'll might get a laugh out of it too.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Podmark on January 18, 2016, 05:03:13 AM
That's a fun little motto. Great skin too, love the custom logo.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2016, 05:11:09 AM
That's a fun little motto. Great skin too, love the custom logo.

To be fair, the oath is from when I initially posted this skin waaaaaaaay back in 2009. The logo is new, a result of me not really caring for the original logo... it was a bit small and thin and the ring around it really lets it pop out more now. I also tacked on the ring glow and added a mild glow to the green segments to give it a bit of extra pop.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: WyldFyre on January 18, 2016, 08:20:52 PM
Now you have to skin his archenemy.... That most evil Chocolate Easter Bunny...... :lol: :lol:

Love the preview, and that's a mighty sweet <pun intended> oath.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: deano_ue on January 18, 2016, 09:16:14 PM
ok first nice seems you haven't missed a beat with your mental humor and skill, and second yes everyone of the stuff i posted is brand new from scratch
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2016, 09:25:55 PM
To be fair, the reason I wasnt sure was because he doesn't have a separate image on the thread, and I realized I didn't have the original anymore to check it against (hell, I had to dl my skins from heroforce. Stupid computer reset)

As for skill... Ehhhh. Really, 90% of the skin hasn't changed, I just added an updated symbol and added a few new extras.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: deano_ue on January 18, 2016, 09:29:13 PM
yes he does :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on December 20, 2018, 03:58:29 AM
*beats the thick layer of dust off with a giant broom*

(https://i.imgur.com/zNKOvg5.jpg)

Only got the skope so far and I'm still working out some design details BTS, but the ole' Emerald Archer is coming along decently well. I've been nervous to come back after so long (I even considered asking for someone to help skope just so I could focus on relearning skinning, but I was actually surprised how naturally I fell back into this.

As for why I'm back... as I'm sure DJ can attest, it's all Benton's fault.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Deaths Jester on December 20, 2018, 04:47:08 AM
Benton got you too, 'Mato?!? Has he no shame or respect for the retired?!? And while we slave on his skins, he's off celearating that holiday thingie!!!

Looks like a good start...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 20, 2018, 05:20:30 AM
Muhahahaha!  Soon, all of FR shall bow down to me and do my DC will!  Muhahaha....err....I mean, what a wonderful surprise!  :unsure:

Seriously, this is exciting, 'Mato!  I can't wait to see how he comes together!

And DJ, don't lie.  You know working on all this wonderful DC minutia warms the cockles of your cold, dead heart!  :lol:

And I will definitely keep bothering all of you awesome, talented retirees!  I can't let y'all rest on your laurels!  There's too much awesome stuff y'all could create!  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on December 21, 2018, 03:00:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/8qhHPuB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/spLEiMg.jpg)

Still very much a WIP. Main body is MOSTLY done, gotta get to work on all the extras (the more brilliant shiny green bits are the C6 ones)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 21, 2018, 05:07:12 AM
He's coming together great, 'Mato.  Like I said on Discord, I like the choice to give him a darker, grimmer green.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: detourne_me on December 21, 2018, 05:27:30 AM
That's a sinister grin if I've ever seen one....  I wonder what DG has planned for the Emerald Archer
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: daglob on December 21, 2018, 05:39:09 AM
Nope, sorry, that ain't me. Darn it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: detourne_me on December 21, 2018, 08:40:13 AM
oops! BG!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 21, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
 :cool:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Deaths Jester on December 21, 2018, 04:25:27 PM
Whut?!?! No cloth texturing?!?! No flesh based textures?!?!  Whut the?!?!  :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: MikeB7 on December 21, 2018, 09:26:53 PM
I dig the hues and expression as well.  :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on December 22, 2018, 04:22:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/tkTHDav.jpg)

"My name is Oliver King. For 5 years I was stranded on an island with only one goal: Vengeance. Now I will fulfill my father's dying wish, and use the list of names he left me to eliminate those who could stop me from conquering my city. To do this I must become someone else. I must become someTHING else. I am... the Emerald Archer."
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 22, 2018, 05:49:36 AM
Hey 'Mato, that is just fantastic!  I love the metal rivets on his cowl!  His expression is perfect, and the non-mask is also just right.

Did you model his face after the TV version?  He reminds me of him, but I'm not sure if that's just because I know the backstory here.

Either way, he's perfect as an evil Ollie!

I like the parody/inversion bio!  Great!  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on December 22, 2018, 06:27:05 AM
I actually did base my face skin off of Stephen Amell, the actor who plays Oliver in Arrow, yes. Granted, it's been pretty heavily modified and what's left is buried under layers of facepaint and beard, but I'm glad it does still show through a bit.

For those who haven't guessed, Emerald Archer is the CSA equivalent of Green Arrow, who pulls inspiration from a couple sources. The most obvious from a design standpoint (at least once you compare them) is Archer from the Crisis on Two Earths animated film, though he's now more in keeping with my "keep classic colors" mentality. The green greasepaint is a bit of a nod to S1 Arrow (though it's also to tie it to someone else later on) which is also SORT OF inspiration for the more muted green, though that's also to make EA stand out against a classic Green Arrow in-game.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on December 23, 2018, 12:18:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/jpjzNvK.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/0gHNwaa.jpg)

Aaaand done, more or less. Need to test in FF and make sure it doesn't act funky, make the portrait file, and write up a readme, but it looks like this grinchy villain will be ready for a Christmas release.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 23, 2018, 10:40:45 PM
Oh, he is perfect, 'Mato!  What a great skin and what a nice design!  Yeah, your work on the face is fantastic, and it is notable that it is still recognizable.  I love the layers that you've folded into him in the 'grim and gritty as evil counterpart' vein.  :D  :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on December 25, 2018, 03:55:09 PM
So after spending like 20 minutes figuring out how to log in, Heroforce has been updated.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 25, 2018, 06:00:49 PM
I actually did base my face skin off of Stephen Amell, the actor who plays Oliver in Arrow, yes. Granted, it's been pretty heavily modified and what's left is buried under layers of facepaint and beard, but I'm glad it does still show through a bit.

For those who haven't guessed, Emerald Archer is the CSA equivalent of Green Arrow, who pulls inspiration from a couple sources. The most obvious from a design standpoint (at least once you compare them) is Archer from the Crisis on Two Earths animated film, though he's now more in keeping with my "keep classic colors" mentality. The green greasepaint is a bit of a nod to S1 Arrow (though it's also to tie it to someone else later on) which is also SORT OF inspiration for the more muted green, though that's also to make EA stand out against a classic Green Arrow in-game.

I just watched this over the weekend (for the 500th time  :D ) and I was wondering if there was meant to be any reference to it. Gotta admit though, I would have really loved to have seen an Alt Costume in Red. That said, beautifully done "Mato, you definitely haven't skipped a beat.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on December 26, 2018, 12:37:51 AM
I feel like I'd rather keep red in reserve for Roy/Speedy counterparts down the line. Also, the earthy green is partly due to something Benton's doing, which is building off the core idea behind Sea King in the new 52, an homage to the grim and gritty 90s look. I do enjoy Arrow, but there's no question season 1 was trying too hard to be Batman.

Edit: So for those not aware, Benton has been using the FR Discord I set up to discuss ideas, but I've been posting previews and concept stuff there too. Everyone is still free to join https://discord.gg/TUDyUQh
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Deaths Jester on December 26, 2018, 01:20:03 AM
So that's where Benton has been plotting the ever increasing request list for me? Hmm...I might have to pop back in there and slow him down with requests for booze!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: What kind of stupid names are those? (07/18/15)
Post by: Tomato on December 31, 2018, 03:54:18 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iyi2hMb.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/KmsBrjY.jpg)

Black Siren so far. Have warpaint and extras to do.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: BentonGrey on December 31, 2018, 05:41:45 PM
She's coming along really well, 'Mato!  I really like the design that you've come up with.  It seems nicely sleazy and fitting. 
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: Deaths Jester on December 31, 2018, 06:56:18 PM
As we all know my constant prob with female eyes, I gotta ask: are Siren's eyes photobashs?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: Tomato on January 01, 2019, 02:24:20 AM
It is indeed a photoskin. I tend to try and pull eyes from various sources (in this case the actress who legitimately plays Black Siren, but I've even based eyes off action figures), but I end up stretching them around with the warp brush to get them the right size and shape, or even just paint new eyeballs, pupils, and irises over top of them if I'm not happy with how they look.

(https://i.imgur.com/sno7acv.jpg)

Need to skin the knives. She's almost done though.

Edit: So since this is the first version I've posted with the facepaint... this is the reason for the warpaint on Emerald Archer. Ironically, Canary's is based on her appearance in the Smallville series, and is something Benton asked me to include.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: Tomato on January 04, 2019, 03:26:23 AM
Black Siren is up on Heroforce. Has been for a few days now actually, I just forgot to actually post it. Whoops.  :blush:

(https://i.imgur.com/xBlyxa5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: Deaths Jester on January 04, 2019, 03:47:02 AM
What happens when you pull someone out of retirement, they forget everything. :P
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: spydermann93 on January 04, 2019, 05:17:39 AM
Hey Tomato, I seem to be getting a "Heroforce Refuses to connect" error when I try to download Black Siren. Emerald Archer works fine though!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: daglob on January 04, 2019, 05:47:27 AM
Hmmmm... I'll run a virus check from my end, but the site tells me I can't enter with Chrome until I download a security program, and if I try to use Explorer/Edge it redirects em to a realtor's page who wants to rent me an apartment.

Ah! The links through the picture try to take me to the old site; the link on the upper menu takes me to your stuff. But I can't find either of these two wonderful scopes. &lt;_&lt;
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: Tomato on January 04, 2019, 02:26:09 PM
Ah. Dreamweaver didn't upload it properly, it should work now.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: spydermann93 on January 04, 2019, 10:52:53 PM
Yep, works on my end, now! :thumbup:

@Glob: Check the DC section of Tomato's stuff. They should be there.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Siren's Call (12/30/2018)
Post by: daglob on January 04, 2019, 11:23:53 PM
I found them. Thanks!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Tomato on January 14, 2019, 01:33:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VAH66ab.jpg)

Finally getting around to this guy. He's been a long time coming.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: BentonGrey on January 14, 2019, 02:22:49 AM
Ohh, can't wait!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: murs47 on June 14, 2019, 05:48:05 PM
I've been waiting for Silhoutte-Man for so long! Good job, Thomas J. Ato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Tomato on July 06, 2019, 04:47:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/FH2d2bm.png)

So... um, long story short after losing progress on this multiple times and I was having a ton of issues with it anyway due to trying to wrap my head around the colors, I set this one aside for... 6 months apparently, jeez.

Anyway yeah, for those of you too foolish to join the Discord, this is Luthor, leader of the heroes of Earth 3. Like with Emerald Archer, the idea is to take the design from CoTE and make the color scheme a little more Luthor-y, as well as add the beard of the original. Problem is, if I made it the typical neon green armor, it'd look too much like a normal Lex Luthor armor, since there's no REAL set design for them and they tend to blur together a bit, so I inverted his normal color scheme for Mirror Luthor.

Still have a bit left to go, the face hasn't been started and I have to still do the gauntlets and shoulder pads. But he looks a LOT better now that I tweaked the colors and finished the torso armor, believe me.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: OrWolvie1 on July 06, 2019, 06:04:56 AM
Looks awesome! I can't wait to see the final product
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Tomato on July 06, 2019, 08:47:27 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/np8GnOY.jpg)

He has a real face now.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: deanjo2000 on July 06, 2019, 09:39:58 PM
Very nice. I always liked lex with facial hair.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Podmark on July 07, 2019, 02:42:41 AM
Very cool design. Great to see more work from you.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: murs47 on July 08, 2019, 01:59:00 PM
That looks really frickin' good!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Tomato on July 09, 2019, 04:09:48 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TJxJD2L.jpg)

Alternate skin. Probably won't do this for any other Anti-Earther inspired by CoTE, but I get that the weird gold look is inspired by the Alexander Luthor from CoIE... even if I find that frustrating for a number of reasons. Using Lex's more typical Green/Purple color scheme and the beard of OG E3 Lex feels more like a counterpart to Lex tbh.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Podmark on July 09, 2019, 04:38:03 AM
Sweet alt! I'm a fan of the gold design from that film.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Cyber Burn on July 09, 2019, 04:58:46 AM
That just looks freaking awesome!!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Tomato on July 11, 2019, 09:17:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/q14k30U.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: BentonGrey on July 11, 2019, 06:13:23 PM
Man, that finished Luthor is fantastic!  Both of them are!  Great work, 'Mato!  I really love the facework and the quality of the colors.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Tomato on July 12, 2019, 01:51:43 AM
He's released btw. Glad to get this monkey off my back...

though, speaking of monkeys...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: BentonGrey on July 12, 2019, 04:35:13 AM
I am 100% invested in wherever this goes.... :lol:

Also, hurray!  I am really excited about playing through the CSA arc with this Luthor in tow.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I need a Hero! (01/13/2019)
Post by: Cyber Burn on July 13, 2019, 05:32:48 PM
Canít wait to get home so I can download this. Awesome ĎMato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious
Post by: Tomato on July 18, 2019, 01:32:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/QNGcHw6.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: Deaths Jester on July 18, 2019, 01:38:17 AM
Will note...that's unhappily not me...<returns to his solitude>
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: naitvalis on July 19, 2019, 10:16:28 AM
Both luthor skins are excellent quality works and indeed are a must for every counterearth game, also i can't wait to see that counterjoker but don't forget the monkey !
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: Tomato on August 03, 2019, 03:25:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/4sWKROl.jpg)

For those not on the discord, I've been steadily working on the Jester for awhile now. Rather than be a palette swap of the CoTE character, my goal was to make something more in line with the general color scheme of Prime Joker, but have it also be in super poor taste. I'm pretty happy with it tbh, just need to add the staff in.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: Podmark on August 03, 2019, 03:50:46 PM
That looks fantastic!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: Cyber Burn on August 03, 2019, 05:38:24 PM
That is beautiful, 'Mato. I love it. I'm still looking at Keys, I just haven't accomplished anything. (Keys are not my strong point)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on August 03, 2019, 07:55:17 PM
That's fantastic, 'Mato.  What a unique design!  I liked the plain one, but this adds another layer to the redesign.  You've got the clown costume switched to the harlequin costume completely.  Great work, man!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: deanjo2000 on August 03, 2019, 10:10:19 PM
Excellent :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: OrWolvie1 on August 04, 2019, 12:41:20 AM
Nicely done, Tomato. your work continues to astound me  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: Tomato on August 06, 2019, 03:27:37 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/t10JpSX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GawMR5a.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/x40US8Z.jpg)

Bit of an image dump, but I wanted to show off some of the new additions, including the plaid pouch from which all his "jokes" come from. Still have one final component before I can wrap this up but I've had a lot of fun with this assault on ones eyeballs.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: OrWolvie1 on August 06, 2019, 03:47:49 AM
He looks awesome! Love the attention to detail that you've given him. Fantastic job!  :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: Tomato on August 08, 2019, 01:29:04 AM
Jester is now available on Heroforce. I completely revamped my DC page for the sake of my own sanity and to make current and future updates easier to sort through.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: murs47 on August 08, 2019, 02:10:02 PM
So, so good! :wub:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: It's time to get serious (7/17/19)
Post by: Tomato on August 08, 2019, 07:53:46 PM
My plan is to work on some Crime Lodge members next, I actually have an interesting take on Jay's counterpart (he's not a Quick, thinking of using Zoom for reasons that'll become clear) but still wrapping my head around Alan.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Zoom Zoom (8/09/19)
Post by: Tomato on August 10, 2019, 03:21:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/PbgCxOe.jpg)

So, as has been established by now, I'm a bit... persnickety, particularly when it comes to CSA universe shenanigans. Rather than do the likely more sane option and just using the "Quick" moniker for Jay's mirror counterpart, my head cannon is that Jonathan Allen was NOT inspired by Jay's counterpart like Barry, but was instead inspired by Johnny Quick's mirror counterpart. Of course, that left me floundering for a new codename to use for Jay (who is still a core member of the Crime Lodge)... but as my ideas for Henry Garrick started coming together in my mind, "Zoom" seemed a fitting choice.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Zoom Zoom (8/9/19)
Post by: murs47 on August 12, 2019, 11:54:48 AM
As cool as this is(and it frickin is), I was expecting a Mazda skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Zoom Zoom (8/9/19)
Post by: Tomato on August 19, 2019, 02:16:06 AM
As cool as this is(and it frickin is), I was expecting a Mazda skin.

TBF, I was thinking of those commercials when I made the thread title.

(https://i.imgur.com/mce35Eh.jpg)

For those who still haven't figured it out, Zoom is based pretty heavily on the Teddy Sears "version" of the character seen in "The Flash" season 2. Not to spoil things, but in the show Teddy's Jay was revealed to be the series' villain, "Zoom," and had been keeping the real Jay prisoner. As I was wrapping up on Jester, I started trying to figure out what to do with Jay and Alan, and a google search for "evil Jay Garrick flash" brought up Teddy's version of the character. The more militaristic design and the name "Zoom" fit with what I was already contemplating for the character, so I decided to use it as the basis for my version. There was some back and forth on whether I should do Teddy Sears or JWS as the basis for the face, but ultimately I went with JWS since I wanted an older Zoom to match the other CLA members, and MAN does his face work well on the VX mesh.

P.S. So as an additional nod to the series, much like the counterpart to Barry is "Jonathan Allen," in my headcanon Jay's counterpart is "Henry Garrick."
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Zoom Zoom (8/9/19)
Post by: Tomato on August 29, 2019, 03:53:48 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/sAaCMi8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/K2Ls1Ek.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Zoom Zoom (8/9/19)
Post by: Podmark on August 29, 2019, 04:19:42 AM
Very nice! The face work is excellent and I really like the jacket design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on October 01, 2019, 02:27:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/lFN4rph.jpg)

First preview. Reusing my extras from the others because... let's be honest, it'd be the same ring and battery.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: naitvalis on October 02, 2019, 06:15:21 AM
Loooks very promising, i like all the stuff you build about counter earths , you have plan to do also less important characters like guardian or bane  ? (Maybe with your own designs i haven't see any dc officials)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on October 03, 2019, 03:40:56 PM
I'd love to do almost everyone in the dcu, but there are SO MANY and skins take so long it's more a question of getting to them at that point.

After I finish PR, I'm gonna shift focus to the Fel(as in Felonious) five Teen Terrors. I'm a huge Titans fan, it's where I first got into making my own earth 3 counterparts, and I'm excited to get into them. I expect that alone to take me to next year.

That said, if we're just talking designing characters... I wouldn't mind designing and/or working with other skinners. Heck, I know the E3 stuff is kinda my thing now, but I do not mind at all seeing other takes on them, and in fact I have a bunch Benton sent me.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on October 06, 2019, 05:12:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uUSDZGP.png)

Obviously pre-face/mask, I'll work on that either later today or next weekend.

To give context for those not in the discord, the thought process I had was to try to find a way to match the showmanship of Alan's classic costume. Alan designed his costume to leave an impression, and I don't see any reason his counterpart would be any different in that regard. The trick was to find a way to somehow match the spirit of the costume, while being its own thing.

The initial inspiration was the style of the Third Doctor, played by Jon Pertwee, specifically his "Inverness Cape." It's this bizarre cross between a trenchcoat and a cape, and Pertwee's outfits would often have a dark (usually black) outside material and a bright, glossy interior color (usually red) that stood out whenever he moved around. From there, Benton suggested using a Mandarin coat in keeping with the Chinese roots of Alan's origin, and (though I haven't skinned it yet) I plan on adding a Zorro style mask both for its theatricality and for its more bandit-like edge.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on October 06, 2019, 05:37:10 PM
Wow, very cool, not at all what I was expecting from the silhouette preview you showed the other day.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on October 07, 2019, 05:00:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/o6DQHcv.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/5FRoVOg.png)

Yeah, I get that. Part of the impulse with making EVIIIIILLL versions of a character is that there's a compulsion to make characters gritty and dark and evil looking... but I tend to shy away from that approach when it doesn't fit the character. Instead, I try to go back to the idea of their design and give it a different spin... Jay, for instance, has a very basic design: his original "costume" is a red tee shirt and jeans he sewed lightning bolts onto and a goofy hat he pulled from a Mercury costume. The Arrow design I worked from works because, functionally, it's very similar... it's a leather jacket and jeans "Jay" added a lighting bolt to, but it adds a bit of a subtle edge because it's intentionally a bit more soldier-esque.

Likewise, Alan is a showman, and because his ring does most of the work anyway, his costume is intentionally more about style than about functionality. As such, I think it's fair to say his costume wouldn't have been any less garish if he was evil. If anything, because of how the ring works, I see Scott Alan (the name I gave Alan's counterpart) leaning into the showmanship of the costume even more as Power Ring, seeing himself as a zorro or robin hood type figure.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on October 08, 2019, 12:27:25 AM
Yeah I see what you are going for.
From the silhouette I got a more Guy Gardener in a leather jacket vibe. Just shows where a mind can go with presented with a shadow.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on October 08, 2019, 05:34:03 AM
Scott and Henry (PR and Zoom) are officially released on Heroforce.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: naitvalis on October 10, 2019, 04:36:05 AM
Very nice! This one have an oriental misterious look thanks to that red dress while i expect one similar to Sherlock holmes from the shadow you show, this one is very original, also some mustaches like the mandarin could fit...however good job 'mato.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on October 19, 2019, 04:33:24 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/AxQnuYP.png)

Wait, Tomato done with a skin on a first edit? What mad sorcery is this!?!

I kid of course. Truthfully, this isn't so much a "new skin" as a quick mod of my Johnny Quick II skin, which will be packed with a more Kid-Flash esque version as well. When planning out designs for Talon and Sea Lord, I decided that I wanted to make 2 versions, one that could be paired against the canonical 60s Teen Titans (booty shorts and all), and one for more modern designs (such as BTAS Dick Grayson Robin). Super Lass also ended up with two designs, one to match her first outfit, and one to pair against her classic red w/stars look from the 70s.

And, well, if I'm doing 2 variants for most of the Terrors ANYWAY... may as well do a version of Kid Quick referencing Wally's stupid original costume.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on October 19, 2019, 10:19:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xmncuJZ.jpg)

Finished the more classic, Kid Flash inspired look earlier today. Opted to go with the lightning bolt ears instead of the normal helmet bolts from Johnny Quick III because it makes the design feel more transitional.

(https://i.imgur.com/79Qtj9k.jpg)

Better shot of the face. I wanted something a bit younger looking and less stark than either his mentor or the older JQ3 face.

And hey, quick note since I was just posting about it elsewhere: I post a lot of designs and WIPs for my CSA works over on the Freedom Reborn Discord (https://discord.gg/TUDyUQh). Feel free to join us.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on October 20, 2019, 12:12:36 AM
Very nice. I really like the classic style Kid Quick. It's a nice conversion of Wally's outfit.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on November 02, 2019, 05:11:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9ZvkXR0.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/02p6bmC.jpg)

Talon is progressing. Like KQ this one is another two skin deal, so I'm basically working on both skins at once. Right now I'm focusing on the "Classic" version (while setting aside any pieces I'm sharing), which is VERY loosely based on his design from Countdown. There's also going to be a second, which is basically a Talon-ified version of Dick's TAS design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on November 02, 2019, 07:22:51 PM
Looking good. Can't wait to see the final version.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: spydermann93 on November 02, 2019, 10:39:06 PM
Little did you know, that is the final version

Muahahahaha
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on November 03, 2019, 02:30:38 AM
Little did you know, that is the final version

Muahahahaha

Actually, this is

(https://i.imgur.com/tYwqAJq.jpg)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: spydermann93 on November 03, 2019, 03:23:29 AM
Don't forget to show off the mullet!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: UnkoMan on November 20, 2019, 06:33:04 AM
Hey! I love this!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: daglob on November 20, 2019, 03:39:07 PM
Hey! I love this!

They are gorgeous, aren't they?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on November 22, 2019, 03:38:00 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/7nKEA4K.jpg)

Spydermann requested I post this awhile back, kept forgetting to actually post it. I opted to give evil Richard a nightwing mullet, mostly for Benton's amusement, and had posted it in the Discord, just not here.

Finally getting off my butt to get both Talon and Kid Quick released, hopefully within the next hour (almost done). I'm excited to finally let you guys get your hands on these, I hid an easter egg in one of them when I was setting up my skopes that I can't wait to see y'alls reaction to.

Edit: They're up. Have at it guys. I'll be on vacation soon so I won't have computer access to dive into the next skin right away, but in the meantime... I know it's *usually* a faux pas to post images in a skinners thread, but if someone wants to share pics of that easter egg I mentioned...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Cyber Burn on November 22, 2019, 05:25:32 AM
 :banghead:   Aaahhh!!! I can't find them!!! Nooo!!!    :banghead:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on November 22, 2019, 01:12:08 PM
http://heroforce.freedomforceforever.com/Tomato/dc-comics.html
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Cyber Burn on November 23, 2019, 09:08:50 PM
I would have put this in my thread, but it's pretty much extinct. I'm going to assume that this is the secret 'Mato was referring to:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Though I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on November 23, 2019, 10:28:49 PM
No, it absolutely is. It's a reference to something I came across when coming up with ideas for the skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: SickAlice on November 24, 2019, 02:58:22 AM
Between you and Pod are my inspirations when it comes to texturing. You in particular caused me to try and do more study and do more with textures then just flat bases, like I did for most of the Lantern Corps. Great to see you are still dedicated to the craft.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Klauser on November 25, 2019, 12:28:41 PM
Great stuff - thank you!!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 14, 2020, 05:02:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9WUEW45.jpg)

Texturing begins... eventually
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: daglob on January 14, 2020, 04:07:17 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 15, 2020, 05:06:12 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/KD6G0wF.jpg)

I should note that, like with both Talon and Kid Quick, I'm making two variants for Sea Squire: One more reminiscent of his original design (long sleeves, underoos) and one that's closer to his N52 Titans appearance (no sleeves, pants, tattoos on the arms). As such, priority RN is to skin areas that'll be the same for both before splitting work between both versions.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 16, 2020, 04:48:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6pFqpRW.jpg)

Sea Squire is slowly coming together. This is obviously the "Classic" version (aka the one with the booty shorts) but I've been laying groundwork for both as I go.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on January 17, 2020, 03:17:30 AM
Looking good. Can't wait to see the final version.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: windblown on January 17, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
That's coming along nicely!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 18, 2020, 06:05:58 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/eff6adb.jpg)

He's pretty close to done now... sort of. The hair is the last major piece, but the "Modern" skin was also meant to have some arm tattoos. I've got a few options in mind, but I'm waiting to hear back from Benton on it before I start making them.

Which, considering Benton's been eaten alive by his job lately... might be awhile.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 21, 2020, 05:00:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/C3DHcyG.jpg)

So as I said, I was planning on giving the "Modern" Sea Squire tattoos from the start (his design is loosely based on Garth's post-rebirth Titans appearance) but I had a few different ideas for what they could be that I was bouncing back and forth between: Kaldur'am's tattoos from YJ (or some reference to them), the aforementioned post-Rebirth design, and the Aquaman tattoos from BvS. What I finally decided was to go with what I felt was more edgelord try-hard (which, tbf, was part of the reason I included them to begin with) and really, what's more try-hard than Zack Snyder's DC films?

That and, frankly, the rebirth tattoos don't make any sense. Why would an Atlantean have tiger stripe tattoos? The eels on Kaldur make sense, and even the weird tribal fish scale tattoos of BvS have a logic to them. But Tiger stripes, specifically a tiger stripe band? Why?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: windblown on January 22, 2020, 12:38:30 AM
I really like the "modern" design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on January 22, 2020, 12:55:47 AM
I love it. Great design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 22, 2020, 03:19:59 AM
I really like the "modern" design.

I'm not gonna lie, I like the Modern one the most. Admittedly, the "Classic" costume is more niche... it, like the Talon skin, is meant for anyone who for some reason wants him to be paired against the classic 60s Aqualad, while the "Modern" is for everyone else.

Speedy's counterpart is likely next (He's pretty simple, while WG's gonna be a whole thing) but I'm at a loss for their names. I'd rather not just use Supergirl, but... MAN Amaxon Thunder is not great (canon E3 counterpart to YJ's Wonder Girl).
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 27, 2020, 06:03:51 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VhVDdIc.png)(https://i.imgur.com/BBdO3qs.png)

It's coming along. Apologies to anyone expecting me to use Archer's color scheme from CotE... but I'm saving that one for Crimson Archer whenever I get around to the Adult Terrors.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on January 28, 2020, 02:46:30 AM
Haha, I am just loving these, 'Mato!  I've already given you some feedback on Discord, but allow me to reiterate my fondness for these designs! 

First off, those Aqualad designs are just fantastic!  The classic one is good, but that modern one is just too awesome!  I LOVE the gray pallor and dark eyes, along with the evil mullets.  I didn't notice them before, but I think your choice for gloves is really interesting.  They're quite cool, and it gives the character some of his own personality.  Of course, the tattoos are a stroke of genius.  They perfectly capture the tone of satire for modern comics excesses which I love for these CSA characters.  "edge-lord try hard," ha!

As for the Speedy counterpart, it's coming together really nicely.  I think that color-scheme is really going to suit that design.  In terms of names, how about:

Speedy: Dread Arrow, Dead Arrow, Crimson Bow, Blood Bow?  I think I quite like "Dread Arrow."
Wonder Girl: Power Princess, Fury Girl, Nike...hmm, this one is tough!

Incidentally, I'm really curious what you'll come up with for her.  I know neither one of us was content with the Crisis version.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 28, 2020, 04:01:51 PM
I didn't notice them before, but I think your choice for gloves is really interesting.  They're quite cool, and it gives the character some of his own personality. 

TBF there, the gloves and belt are both ripped from movie Aquaman. I had tried to rip the boots too, but the way they were designed just didn't really work over the FF model, especially for the leaner male_teen body.

Ironically though, I used them in the first place because they were very similar to those elements of Sea King's design, particularly the belt area.


Of course, the tattoos are a stroke of genius.  They perfectly capture the tone of satire for modern comics excesses which I love for these CSA characters.  "edge-lord try hard," ha!

TBF that's a thing that's come out of our discussions, but I felt it was particularly relevant with the Terrors because of their ages. These are the proteges of some of the most evil people on their earth, it seems wholly appropriate that they'd be try hard young idiots at that age.

As for the Speedy counterpart, it's coming together really nicely.  I think that color-scheme is really going to suit that design.  In terms of names, how about:

Speedy: Dread Arrow, Dead Arrow, Crimson Bow, Blood Bow?  I think I quite like "Dread Arrow."
Wonder Girl: Power Princess, Fury Girl, Nike...hmm, this one is tough!

Incidentally, I'm really curious what you'll come up with for her.  I know neither one of us was content with the Crisis version.

For Speedy's counterpart, it's actually kind of ironic that "Speedy" is taken for the main universe, because that's actually an amazing name for a drug dealing punk kid. The name I've been tentatively using is Quickdraw, mostly because I'm trying to keep to a one word name to match Speedy's if possible.

For Wonder Girl... I feel like Power Princess is kinda taken. I dunno, I kind of want "Super" to be in there, but unfortunately the only non-Supergirl name that keeps coming to my brain due to the alliteration of it is one I don't want to use for several reasons, not the least of which being the fact that it's a violation of board rules.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 29, 2020, 04:32:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/kg7J1GK.png)

Face is done. As I mentioned in the discord, I made a point of avoiding facial hair for teenagers, but... I REALLY hate that stupid soul patch nonsense he had during the Outsiders book (a book I've come to dislike more and more as I've gotten older) so I'm including it on Roy's counterpart as an expression of said hatred. Also did the super short cut from YJ's Arsenal. I came across it when looking up references for the facial hair, and it just seemed... right.

Also grease paint mask, because why not?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on January 30, 2020, 02:15:10 AM
Great job, I love how you do two versions. And it's interesting hearing your design though process.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on January 30, 2020, 05:14:11 AM
TBF there, the gloves and belt are both ripped from movie Aquaman. I had tried to rip the boots too, but the way they were designed just didn't really work over the FF model, especially for the leaner male_teen body. 

Ironically though, I used them in the first place because they were very similar to those elements of Sea King's design, particularly the belt area.

Well, I like the fingerless gloves, in addition to the scalloped design.  It is a very modern-ish touch and feels very fitting for the vibe we've been developing.  What did the boots look like?

TBF that's a thing that's come out of our discussions, but I felt it was particularly relevant with the Terrors because of their ages. These are the proteges of some of the most evil people on their earth, it seems wholly appropriate that they'd be try hard young idiots at that age.

Yes indeed.  I think we've really hit on something with this approach.  It makes sense, and it's just a fun twist on the designs.  Take the angst of modern comics, multiply it by the natural angst of teenage characters, and then multiply THAT by the incredibly dysfunctional relationships these characters would have, and you've got the most emo posers ever.

For Speedy's counterpart, it's actually kind of ironic that "Speedy" is taken for the main universe, because that's actually an amazing name for a drug dealing punk kid. The name I've been tentatively using is Quickdraw, mostly because I'm trying to keep to a one word name to match Speedy's if possible.

Ha!  Yeah, Speedy for a drug-dealing version (I don't remember if I've told you, but I love that angle, ha!) would be quite fitting.  Quickdraw works and is nicely parallel in structure, but it doesn't sound terribly malevolent.  Of course, the main CSA member's names don't either.  Ultraman could easily be a heroic name, as could the others, so in that sense, it is fitting.  I suppose I tend to go to the more blatant in my naming choices.

For Wonder Girl... I feel like Power Princess is kinda taken. I dunno, I kind of want "Super" to be in there, but unfortunately the only non-Supergirl name that keeps coming to my brain due to the alliteration of it is one I don't want to use for several reasons, not the least of which being the fact that it's a violation of board rules.

Hahaha!  Now who's being blatant?  Ha!  Yeah, that would certainly fit, but it is perhaps a bit too on the nose.  It would be really good to keep the continuity of "Super," but I'll be darned if I can think of a good way to do that.

Oh man, I love the close-ups!  The soul-patch is perfect, and I love, love, LOVE the guy-liner/grease-paint mask.  Ha!  Once again, so very modern and 'edgy', and very fitting for this guy.  Great work, 'Mato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 30, 2020, 05:36:35 PM
The Aquaman movie boots were similar to the gloves, but with a lot of jutting bits that made scaling down a pain. Also, the model was made with Momoa's huge calves in mind, so the shape of them just made it look like he was wearing clown shoes.

As for the fingerless gloves, those were mostly due to some yj style adult tempest fanart, but also due to a specific style of swim gloves.

For Quickdraw's grease paint mask, it's to keep anti-roy consistent with EA and Black Siren.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: daglob on January 30, 2020, 07:24:03 PM
Tomato, have you tried sculpting stuff in Blender? Sometimes it works, other times...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on January 31, 2020, 12:34:33 AM
I mean, I could do that, or work to modify it in max, or whatever. Big thing was though, they didn't look great, and part of the intent was to emulate Sea King... Who doesn't have boots either.

Speaking of... Whenever Super Starlet gets done, I was thinking of doing some of the new 52 CSA... Not of the main 5, I've done them to death, but Sea Squire got me itching to try my hand at Sea King, and I've been meaning to do my own take on Death storm for awhile.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: deanjo2000 on February 01, 2020, 10:15:59 AM
Beautiful work, I always enjoy seeing csa stuff from you as you always seem to nail them :D as for a name maybe 'quick-fix' or is that too on the nail?.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 11, 2020, 05:00:33 AM
See, I ultimately kept Quickdraw because it seemed to be in the same naming sphere as Speedy. It's a different name for the same sort of idea, that he's quick with a bow.

Speaking of, Sea Squire and Quickdraw have both finally been released. They've been done for a bit now, I just couldn't be bothered to make read-mes/portraits/preview images.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: daglob on February 11, 2020, 05:27:29 AM
See, I ultimately kept Quickdraw because it seemed to be in the same naming sphere as Speedy. It's a different name for the same sort of idea, that he's quick with a bow.

Speaking of, Sea Squire and Quickdraw have both finally been released. They've been done for a bit now, I just couldn't be bothered to make read-mes/portraits/preview images.

Where might they be located, though? I'm looking at Heroforce, but...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 11, 2020, 05:36:24 AM
it's in the DC section, under Teen Terrors. You may have to reload the frame.

I need to do something about the index page at some point. It's just not convenient to update manually with latest releases, but I know it confuses people.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: daglob on February 11, 2020, 06:05:20 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 15, 2020, 08:45:45 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Rb09vOs.jpg)

So lack of face/hair aside, this is what I've come up with for the "original" outfit of Super Starlet. It's sort of a blend between Superwoman's Pre and Post Crisis designs, which I felt worked well since original Donna's design was just teenage WW.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: windblown on February 15, 2020, 10:14:37 PM
It's looking good. I especially like the emblem.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 15, 2020, 10:18:21 PM
Looks good, 'Mato, but she could use something to make her a bit more distinct.  Maybe invert the black and yellow?  Or perhaps add a skirt, like SA Wonder Girl?  Those may both be too drastic, as it is a nice design, but it seems a little too close to her mentor to me.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on February 16, 2020, 12:43:29 AM
Looks great and fitting considering Donna's original look. Very curious to see what you come up with for the modern version.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 17, 2020, 03:31:39 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/CjNBNrK.png)

It's looking good. I especially like the emblem.

TBF, while I can take credit for the original model, it's actually lifted straight from my CLA Superwoman, which was based on her design by George Perez. I just changed the S to Black instead of Red. I was originally planning on doing something more like Morrison's Superwoman emblem, but I felt the more "old school" logo was more appropriate as a parallel to Donna's first design.

Looks good, 'Mato, but she could use something to make her a bit more distinct.  Maybe invert the black and yellow?  Or perhaps add a skirt, like SA Wonder Girl?  Those may both be too drastic, as it is a nice design, but it seems a little too close to her mentor to me.

I did actually make a minor change to this version (the glove additions are a reference to something that'll be clearer in the "Classic" skin) but I actually don't want to stray too far off that path for THIS design. This is, after all, the parallel to WG's original design... which was originally just intended to be a younger Wonder Woman. That's sort of the idea here as well, that while it is also Donna's counterpart, it could be a young Superwoman.

Also, quick correction from someone who has looked at waaaay too many references for the fab five... Donna's never worn a skirt as WG. Original outfit Donna/teen WW is actually wearing short shorts. That said, I considered a skirt for SS... but a regular skirt felt too cutesy, and the WW battle skirt was too modern looking and would look out of place.

Looks great and fitting considering Donna's original look. Very curious to see what you come up with for the modern version.

Thank you. I've got some ideas for it that'll take me a bit of work, but I think will be worth it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 17, 2020, 05:36:35 AM
Ahh, you're right 'Mato, I was thinking of the shorts.  Maybe some type of yellow about the waist would mirror that, then?  I like the gloves, and I love the emblem.  Anyway, it's a great skin and a good design, one way or the other.  I love the face!

https://www.nj.com/resizer/L_jvvF3zrWm9sv9_U0FJygLlClQ=/1280x0/smart/image.nj.com/home/njo-media/width600/img/entertainment_impact/photo/teen-titans-05e76ed1f4212f60.jpg

I guess what I was thinking of in terms of classic WG was her looser, sort of baggy costume.  It's almost more informal than WW's.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 17, 2020, 05:25:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wIWiOdL.png)

Hair is done, so closeup of the face.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 17, 2020, 10:53:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/S2zqCNZ.png)

Man, I've been on a tear today.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: OrWolvie1 on February 17, 2020, 11:02:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/S2zqCNZ.png)

Man, I've been on a tear today.

She looks fantastic! Awesome job!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 17, 2020, 11:03:45 PM
As I said on Discord, I love this one.  On the one hand, you'd think 'well, just inverting the colors is cheap,' like we keep saying, but you manage to create such a unique, perfect design, that the color inversion works perfectly as well.  It feels like the natural color scheme for that costume/character.  She looks like an evil Wonder Girl, and it's a good design in its own right.  Great work, 'Mato!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on February 17, 2020, 11:22:49 PM
Very nice. It seems to take some inspiration from Donna's Rebirth costume.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 17, 2020, 11:49:57 PM
Yeah, the design is basically a mix of Donna's rebirth outfit, and the outfit from the Titans streaming series. The latter is sort of a running gag between Benton and I, where I'll incorporate stuff from the live action shows here and there (Zoom is probably the most on the nose with that, he's basically just Teddy Sears' "Jay" with a different helmet and JWS' face).

As for the colors, I mentioned a bit of this to Benton... The general idea I have is that as main universe Donna transitions to her Titans era Black/Silver design, evil Donna's outfit gets brighter and more colorful.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 18, 2020, 02:00:14 AM
Ha, yeah, I love the running gag.  The Green Arrow and Black Canary ersatzes are my favorites in that category so far.  :lol:

On a cool note, while this works as a parallel to modern Donna, it also works as a really nice parallel for Bronze Age Donna as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: windblown on February 18, 2020, 11:20:38 PM
Very nice! I really like the face.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 19, 2020, 02:29:39 AM
So my plan is to get SS ready to go up sometime this week, possibly tonight but no promises.

Next up I'm going to take a short break from mirror mirror goodness and work on a skin Benton requested, followed by a few *canon* CSA members I have yet to skin myself.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 19, 2020, 05:29:17 AM
I'm excited about all of this!  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 21, 2020, 03:58:53 AM
Super Starlet is officially up, and I'm basically done with the next skin already (so weird) just waiting on Benton's approval.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 21, 2020, 04:21:00 AM
And you have it, sir, with a very good will!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 21, 2020, 04:49:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/irVjjyl.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/he7GE3x.png)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 21, 2020, 05:39:03 AM
He's fantastic, 'Mato!  What a great skin, and a very simple, yet very fitting update.  Like I said on Discord, I love the face work and the hair, as well as the really excellent scale pattern.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 21, 2020, 05:17:10 PM
So to give a bit more info, since I was kinda tired when I originally posted... Benton asked me to do a sort of "TAS styled" update for Aqualad, essentially modernizing the design while still keeping it simple and classic.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: windblown on February 21, 2020, 09:38:33 PM
He looks fantastic!

So to give a bit more info, since I was kinda tired when I originally posted... Benton asked me to do a sort of "TAS styled" update for Aqualad, essentially modernizing the design while still keeping it simple and classic.

You nailed it!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 21, 2020, 09:54:49 PM
Entertainingly, I started out just by asking 'Mato to give the poor lad some pants at long last.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQEAiZJMco
However, as he worked on him, he not only made that basic improvement to the design, he totally improved the design in general!  It's still classic, but a little sleeker and cleaner, and fitting with his mentor thematically even more.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on February 22, 2020, 02:39:39 AM
Looks great! Perfectly fits what you two were looking for.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 24, 2020, 03:14:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/2ptfpWM.png)

The sadistic Martin Stein, aka Deathstorm.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 24, 2020, 03:17:09 AM
Ohh, exciting!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 27, 2020, 12:05:52 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/EmF6MLA.png)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on February 27, 2020, 01:03:08 AM
Looks good, interested to see the mask.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 27, 2020, 05:07:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vemOElA.gif)

This preview took WAY too long to set up, bur I wanted to show off the second flame fx I set inside the mouth. There's gonna be more details on the hood section, but the skull portion's done.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Podmark on February 27, 2020, 05:13:08 AM
Creeeeeepy
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on February 27, 2020, 06:02:11 AM
Wow, that's really cool!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: daglob on February 27, 2020, 11:03:24 PM
 :blink:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on February 28, 2020, 03:05:42 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/xypvbBX.png)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: deanjo2000 on February 28, 2020, 06:03:38 AM
Very nice. The face is excellent.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: windblown on March 04, 2020, 11:26:59 PM
wow, that's a great skin.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: SickAlice on March 06, 2020, 01:25:58 PM
Gosh you're so on point, you should be texturing professionally. I'm envious, keep it up.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on March 06, 2020, 02:39:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YRT2a1u.png)

So this has actually been done for like a week now, and I completely forgot to post it here. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Deaths Jester on March 06, 2020, 08:18:35 PM
What? No fabric gathering where the sleeves go into the gloves?!?!   :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on March 06, 2020, 10:05:13 PM
That entire area is warped badly due to mapping, with the space between the gloves and poofiest part of the sleeve being about 1 pixel thick. I did what I could with it in terms of adding depth and even tried to untangle the mapping, but no luck.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: BentonGrey on March 06, 2020, 10:35:33 PM
Haha, DJ, don't ever change, man.  :D

As I hope I've already said elsewhere, I love this.  It's a fantastic skin.  The extra flame in the skull is great!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: Power Ring I (09/30/19)
Post by: Tomato on March 10, 2020, 09:03:56 PM
So, real quick: At some point tonight, I will be deleting TGWTG Black from the website, and will be renaming the files for TGWTG Green to something like "Green Ranger Linkara". It's honestly something I should have done a year or so ago, but I've been so focused on CSA stuff I'd forgotten it was there.

Anyone who wants to download TGWTG Black is welcome to do so before I get to it, but any attempts to get it from me after that point will be ignored, and I'd greatly appreciate it if the skin wasn't redistributed in it's current form*.

And in case anyone is wondering why, let's just say Doug proved to be a less than stellar human and leave it at that.

*to be clear, anyone who wants to kitbash the skin into an actual black ranger is welcome to do so, but I want the skin as it currently exists (the tie, Doug's stupid face) to vanish from the earth.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 12, 2020, 04:10:15 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/sCqwzsX.png)

Ha.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 15, 2020, 03:36:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/U565JS7.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/j1kkbXB.png)

Outsider is slowly coming along. I still have to do the hair and the waistcoat, but I'm reasonably happy with the face and some of the other outfit details.

(https://i.imgur.com/pnIW3mc.gif)

Speaking of the face, I threw this together while I was working on it (done before I added the green to the facial hair and did the eye details). I've talked a bit before about my process of "photoskinning" faces, but this should give you guys a better idea of what goes into that. Essentially, I use the photoskin as a skeleton, and add details over top of it to give it more depth and to make it match the rest of my style.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Podmark on March 15, 2020, 03:59:09 PM
It's looking great. The face is excellent.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: deanjo2000 on March 15, 2020, 06:14:13 PM
I love seeing your preview work and then the reveal, always top notch too :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: daglob on March 15, 2020, 07:28:37 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 17, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3UNmPeS.png)

A minor skope fix I posted to the fr discord a few days ago. Made his face thinner
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: windblown on March 17, 2020, 09:54:08 PM
I don't know the character, but the face work is amazing.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 17, 2020, 10:00:29 PM
CSA Alfred. He's been exposed to Joker toxin (and no, I'm pretty sure it's just joker on n52 e3, because lazy) and he masterminded the n52 Secret Society for awhile.

Technically he had brown hair in canon, but I thought the green looked better so I kept it green.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: windblown on March 17, 2020, 10:06:36 PM
CSA Alfred. He's been exposed to Joker toxin (and no, I'm pretty sure it's just joker on n52 e3, because lazy) and he masterminded the n52 Secret Society for awhile.

Technically he had brown hair in canon, but I thought the green looked better so I kept it green.

Interesting, I didn't know that. I like the green hair too.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 24, 2020, 03:53:51 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/tys1lc8.png)

Finally done. Ugh that took longer to finish than it should have.

So, if you'll allow me to gush about the character for a bit... Much like Deathstorm, who took an established evil Firestorm character from before the New52 and folded it into the Crime Syndicate, "The Outsider" aka E3 Alfred is loosely based on "The Outsider" from the post Crisis continuity... aka that time Alfred died and came back as a bizarro looking dude in a speedo that tried to kill Batman.

No, I'm serious, that was a thing.

Anyway, Johns took that concept and updated his version to be an Alfred who has been exposed to his universe's Joker toxin and been saved, albeit with lingering side effects. He ends up appearing at the end of the very first Justice League arc of the N52, and works behind the scenes throughout several books(mostly as the big bad of JLA) prior to Trinity War and Forever Evil. Easily one of the best characters to come out of that storyline, even if some of the payoff for Trinity War makes me roll my eyes.

That said, this will likely be the last of the N52 Syndicate you'll see me do as presented. I've done the Morrison versions of the rest (and plan to keep those), I have rough ideas for my own takes on Atomic and the Malevolent Family (kudos to Benton for the latter name, and yes Mazahs is JUST the Wizard's name in the CSAT) but frankly the new 52 versions of both are... awful, just... awful.

Anyway, my next step is to get these last 3 skins finished off and uploaded to Heroforce.  After that, another little mini-break from CSA stuff with another secret Benton project. After that... we'll see.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 27, 2020, 04:40:24 AM
Aqualad and Deathstorm uploaded to Heroforce. Outsider is also coming, it's just getting late and I don't have time to finish him off as well.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: spydermann93 on March 27, 2020, 04:51:26 AM
Deathstorm and Aqualad downloads don't seem to work.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 27, 2020, 01:24:14 PM
Hrm. I told it to upload all dependent files and I guess it skipped the zips. Fixing now.

Edit: Fixed, but those who tried to download it earlier might still have issues because the browser still thinks it's broken. In that case, open the download link in a new tab/window, and refresh the page.

Edit 2: Outsider has been uploaded.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 27, 2020, 06:38:47 PM
Really been enjoying watching the progression of your work with these guys. I appreciate you sharing their development. Plus, it's kind of been encouraging me to want to get back into the game.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: spydermann93 on March 27, 2020, 10:34:36 PM
Got them to work by using a different browser (was using Chrome; used Edge).

Probably have to clear my cookies like you suggested.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 27, 2020, 10:55:46 PM
Tbf, I had similar issues when I worked on it this morning. Chrome just would not bother to actually load the link once they were finally uploaded. It was driving me nuts.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on March 28, 2020, 04:30:43 PM
Awesome!  You're producing so much great stuff, 'Mato!  I've got a tone of new toys I've got to get added to the DCUG.  I can't wait to rework Aqualad!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on March 30, 2020, 04:28:50 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/f1X1jo0.png)

Benton project.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on April 07, 2020, 06:09:29 PM
 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on April 08, 2020, 04:41:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ggeHZn3.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/OSyfm9w.png)

And to go alongside Aqualad, the original Aquagirl, Tula. This one was fun to put together... it's mostly her classic design, but I also incorporated some elements of her Young Justice design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on April 08, 2020, 02:39:34 PM
I love this skin/skope and this design!  'Mato and I went back and forth in our conversations about it, but he had great ideas throughout.  The result is even better than I expected!  He took the classic costume and improved on it in subtle but important ways.  Fantastic!  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Podmark on April 09, 2020, 12:58:16 AM
Very nice. I quite like the belt.
The pattern looks like it would be a pain.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: windblown on April 09, 2020, 10:50:26 PM
That's so nice!! I love the eyes and the costume is really cool.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on April 25, 2020, 02:11:10 AM
Tomato, I have always liked your work.  Your latest creations are outstanding!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on April 27, 2020, 07:48:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/oxFTRLu.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/WeVa95M.png)

So for anyone trying to keep up with my insanity, this one requires a bit of an explanation. As many here remember, I went through this whole thing working with the community, trying to come up with a CSA Equivalent for Aquaman, because there wasn't a canon one. I eventually skinned a version of "Aqualord" based on Cyber and Syn's designs (Cyber's in particular iirc. He'd probably argue that he didn't do much, but I never would have been able to create the skin I ended up with if not for his version.) and it was more or less my headcanon version of the character for what I now refer to as the CSAT, or "CSA according to Tomato" (nomenclature I've shamelessly stolen from Benton).

Then DC finally made their own version in Sea King and... Hrm. I said at the time I'd probably have been fine with it had it come out earlier, but the book released super close to when I made the skin, and I didn't want to throw out the work I'd already done. Plus... I get hung up on trying to keep color schemes intact where possible, and in Aquaman's case in particular I really like the orange and green color scheme he has. Sea King changed his primary color to purple, and while I do prefer that to Flashpoint Aquaman (he wears Red and Black because he's EEEEEEVVIIIILLL) I wasn't a fan of the color change. Combine that with the fact that he was immediately killed, and then his corpse was puppeted around for a meh JL Dark tie in... and yeah, I was content to just toss the character in the pile of N52 designs I'm not going to do.

In time, however, my opinion has... softened. Mainly this is due to a conversation with Benton, where he advocated for the design: he liked that the n52 version incorporated several elements from his 90s design, as well as having a few that the Aquaman movie would later incorporate, such as the plating on the sides of the belt. The design is effectively a pastiche on both designs at once, which fits nicely with my post-Emerald Archer design philosophy. The design was also used in Lego DC Supervillains, where we actually get to see Sea King properly... he's basically a cartoon pirate, but that's more than the comics gave us.

So yeah, when the time came to do Sea Squire with the Terrors and then the other N52 CSA members, I knew doing my own version (one with proper colors and a few more movie elements) based on a skope Dean made that Benton sent me. For anyone curious, the other design has been retconned to being the equivalent of Aquaman's 90s design, where Arthur got his head shaved (Thor Ragnarok style) and his hand forcibly restored. I wouldn't be shocked to see a minor update to that skin in the near future, one incorporating the DCEU style tattoos in place of the old ones (I put the work into them for Sea Squire, and I'm not 100% happy with the originals) probably to be released alongside this version.

Seashell and wristband are from Dean's skin (haven't bothered to replace them yet) and I'm probably going to mesh my own hook to get the look I want.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on April 27, 2020, 09:54:29 PM
Looking good, 'Mato.  I think you've come up with a design that works well for what you wanted.  Here are a few thoughts of varying levels of quality:

Possible tweaks: I wonder, how would it look if the armor sections were black (or perhaps dark gree), matching the pants?  I feel like that might not work, but I wonder if it would provide more balance to the design.  Actually...yeah, maybe green for the armor and the pants could work?  It creates a problem for the side armor, but that could be gold to match the hook?  None of this may be helpful or good, ha.

Also, I just want to say that I've enjoyed being part of the conversations about these characters, and I find your descriptions of your process really interesting!

Aqualord: Man, that's such a great design.  It was my gold standard, and I had even put it in the DCUG.  (Ha, stealing my name scheme!)  I would probably still stick with it if it weren't for the fact that I love the subtext of making the evil version of Aquaman long-haired and hook-handed.  That's just so perfect, especially given the ethos of the DCUG.  Still, my ideal version might well be a mash-up of that design and this oen and the N52 version. 

Yeah, the N52 version...ha, such a mixed bag.  At least he existed...for a moment?  I guess?  Such a shame.

Interesting backstory for the original design!  Cool!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on April 28, 2020, 02:08:24 AM
Really like the CSA work!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on April 28, 2020, 05:47:05 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/OzVfsCF.png)(https://i.imgur.com/n6j74eO.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/9OTPJWb.png)(https://i.imgur.com/1qtJ72E.png)

All the Sea Kings.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: spydermann93 on April 28, 2020, 02:18:51 PM
Freakin' awesome, 'Mato! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Podmark on April 28, 2020, 11:53:13 PM
Those are some nice Sea Kings. I'm not even sure which one I like best.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on April 29, 2020, 04:59:05 AM
I'm really happy with them. I think the green pants gold sides one is my favorite, but I'm happy with all of them.

That said, moving right along, because I can

(https://i.imgur.com/mAw1OCS.png)

There's a non blacked out version in the FR Discord, but it honestly shouldn't be that hard to guess. I will not, however, be using the canon name from CoTE... I get why, and it works on a Meta level if you're in the know about it... but I'd rather not have links and filenames with that in them.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: spydermann93 on April 29, 2020, 02:14:51 PM
But Tomaaaato! It's such a good name!

lmao
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on April 29, 2020, 08:05:25 PM
Cool!  Who'd have thought we'd ever see an Anti-Matter version of him?  :)

As for the Sea King versions, I agree, I think the green pants/gold sides is a nice update to your first new design.  I still love that old one, though, and the movie-style tattoos look pretty good.  I think they'll work out much better in-game.  Plus, the additional meta-commentary of it is great.  :lol:

It's really hard to say which I like better, as they're both really good designs that are doing different but equally cool things.  I think my ideal version would be the body design of the original, with its dominant green, orange as armored highlights, with the orange armored sleeve being the hook-hand, tattoos on the other, bearded and long hair.  I think that would be the best of all evil-Aqua worlds.  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on April 29, 2020, 11:10:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/a1EF1ot.png)

Black Thunder!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on April 30, 2020, 02:06:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cQXcXbr.png)

Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Podmark on April 30, 2020, 02:32:14 AM
Great stuff!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: naitvalis on April 30, 2020, 04:49:48 AM
I really like all the details and the designs, black thunder is a professional piece!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on May 06, 2020, 01:52:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/fAsRwcF.png)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: spydermann93 on May 06, 2020, 03:09:35 AM
Is it Batman!?! :o
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on May 06, 2020, 04:26:19 AM
Black Thunder looks great!  Can't wait for the new one!  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on May 06, 2020, 07:55:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mSZgIjd.png)

So this is what I've come up with for an evil Hawkwoman, which thanks to Silverlion is named Razorhawk. I know Blood Eagle is technically her counterpart, but Benton's using it for Hawkman and honestly I think Razorhawk fits her better (and no, don't even get me started on Sky King, I dislike everything about that mess). I wouldn't expect to see Carter's counterpart anytime soon, but those of you who recognise where most of this design's inspiration can probably guess what direction I'd likely go for evil Hawkman.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on May 06, 2020, 08:02:58 PM
Wow, she's coming along great, 'Mato!  I think you've got a really nice design for this one.  The helmet has turned out really well.  I agree, SL had a good idea with Razorhawk.  This is what I went with for evil Katar as part of our whole 'grim 'n gritty' inspiration for the mirror universe.:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d1GGOFPKMO8/W1ORllquMqI/AAAAAAAASQg/88qG36QpTLsqJVpBPWJSs1B7QmT0vZiAgCLcBGAs/s1600/hawkworld-1.jpg

Ohh!  How about gold, Hawkworld style wings for her?  That would look great with the new design!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Podmark on May 06, 2020, 10:15:23 PM
Really great job on the mask!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: windblown on May 06, 2020, 11:50:42 PM
Black Thunder is really fantastic! and Razorback is coming along fantastic too. I'm enjoying your designs a lot even if I'm not really into DC, so great job on them!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Klauser on May 07, 2020, 02:07:01 PM
Oh wow - that is looking awesome!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on May 12, 2020, 04:56:10 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/fe6dENE.png)
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Cyber Burn on May 12, 2020, 05:54:10 AM
Damn, ĎMato, why you gotta make the evil Redhead look so good? 😤
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Klauser on May 12, 2020, 12:09:06 PM
Wow ... outstanding work, sir!!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on May 12, 2020, 03:01:48 PM
Outstanding!  I love these CSA designs!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on May 12, 2020, 03:44:13 PM
Yeah, that's a gorgeous skin, wonderful detail on the wings (I know how hard you worked on those!), and great, vibrant colors.  This is an excellent design as well, 'Mato.  I think this ticks a lot of the boxes we wanted for CSA designs.  :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Podmark on May 12, 2020, 10:31:29 PM
That is excellent looking. Great job!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: naitvalis on May 13, 2020, 06:17:09 AM
Excellent job 'Mato! the wings and all absolutely well done! Also the character is enough evil look, hope this wonderful toys will work for  :ff: .
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: deanjo2000 on May 13, 2020, 02:45:36 PM
Sooooooo beautiful :D
The wings are done so well and I love the helmet.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on May 14, 2020, 04:34:37 AM
Damn, ĎMato, why you gotta make the evil Redhead look so good? 😤

It's magic, I don't have to explain it.

Excellent job 'Mato! the wings and all absolutely well done! Also the character is enough evil look, hope this wonderful toys will work for  :ff: .

Unfortunately, the last few I've done (Sea King, Black Thunder, Razor Hawk) are  :ffvstr: only. I try to keep it compatible for both games when I can, but if I'm adding effects or the base meshes/skopes I'm trying to work from are already pre-converted, there's only so much I can do.

Sooooooo beautiful :D
The wings are done so well and I love the helmet.

Yeah, I'm really proud of how the Wings turned out.

As for the helmet, I obviously reskinned it, but it's actually ripped from Injustice's alternate E2 Hawkgirl (Not that I think she's evil or anything, I just thought it fit better than the Starcrossed helmet). I actually imported it from a rip of the game directly, only to realize Sick Alice had already done it while I was working on other parts of the skope. Mace is from Injustice's Regime Hawkgirl.

(https://i.imgur.com/B6PV1t3.png)

Almost done with the actual skin portion. Only need to do the gun holster, but a recent bite (and other damage  &lt;_&lt; ) from my roommate's cat has caused some swelling in my left pinkie. It's not bad, but I instinctively use it for the control button, which I discovered gets used a LOT when I skinned the hair today (Undo, redo, cut, copy, paste, save, etc) so I might wait for a day or so to finish up.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: windblown on May 20, 2020, 03:23:42 PM
wow.... just wow  :o
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on May 20, 2020, 08:01:32 PM
Yeah, that's just a fanastic skin, 'Mato.  I know you've put tons of effort into it, and it definitely shows!
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on May 21, 2020, 03:14:38 PM
Heroforce has been updated with both Black Thunder and Razor Hawk.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on May 23, 2020, 08:56:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Em1eC0J.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/LkVydby.png)

Benton suggested I remove the mustache back when I initially designed him, but I dunno. I feel like he's missing something without it.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: deanjo2000 on May 23, 2020, 09:25:42 PM
I know what you mean, maybe try a different style? Handlebar or goatee? Not sure.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: BentonGrey on May 24, 2020, 12:20:43 AM
Hmm...he looks like a red Bruce Lee.

I have to say...as much as it makes sense to remove the mustache, it really does feel like something is missing.  It took me a minute to even figure out who he was!  :P  Maybe Dean's got the right notion...
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Podmark on May 24, 2020, 12:23:44 AM
Funny how much a different hair cut and lack of facial hair make him look different from traditional Sinestro. The hair reminds me of Spock.
I think a soul patch would work with that design.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Tomato on May 24, 2020, 03:22:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/925f6BE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PASUl75.png)

Much better I think.

Yeah, the hair is very much Spock based. Wanted to do a cut that wasn't his super widows peak, but still fit the character.

Born on the Planet Korugar, Dextro Thuul was one of many to fall under the power of the Power Rings of Volthoom, a cursed item which took control of its host, draining them of their own will in exchange for promises of personal power. Though once heralded as Volthoom's most devoted servant, Joseph Harrolds revealed to Volthoom that Dextro had been subverting the ring's instructions, providing his people with aid and protection from Volthoom's regime. His ring stripped from him and given to another, more willing host, Dextro left his universe in search of a means of stopping Volthoom. He soon found his means in another universe, with the Guardians of OA. Though the guardians were unable to make rings based on the emotional spectrum work properly for one from Thuul's universe, they were able to adapt the technology from one of Volthoom's rings so that the power came from the user's ability to overcome fear.

And thus was born Dextro, the hero of Golden Light.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: deanjo2000 on May 24, 2020, 05:37:02 AM
Nailed it :D
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: windblown on May 24, 2020, 05:57:00 PM
Very nice, I also like the skin with facial hair better.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: Sioux City Dynamo on May 25, 2020, 11:12:09 PM
Great skin Tomato!  Really like him!  Any plans for General Grodd?
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: WyldFyre on May 26, 2020, 04:54:07 AM
I don't know about the 'stash.
On the one hand, the stash adds something, but on the other, he looks less intimidating without it. I kind of prefer without, but I'm torn.
Title: Re: Tomato's skinwork: I am an Outsider (03/11/20)
Post by: UnkoMan on June 04, 2020, 01:48:23 AM
I agree, the facial hair does make him look... more evil. Codified "evil goatee."

What if he had a different kind of moustache? Would it be weird? A dad 'stache?

Anyhow, it does look great, either way. Glad to see you're still at it!