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Title: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Previsionary on June 15, 2009, 12:44:01 AM
UPDATE: (07-12-10)

Tutorial questions have been coming up frequently, so I'll try to document all the ones I can find here:

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Steam
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Installing FFedit: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=50663.0

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Skinning
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Basic Skinning tutorial: http://www.geocities.com/skingalltut/texturemap.htm (http://www.geocities.com/skingalltut/texturemap.htm)

Middy's video tutorial: http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/tutorial-skinned.html (http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/tutorial-skinned.html)

More tutorials (capes, installing, logos, seams...): http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Skins (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Skins)

Murs skinning tutorial: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=44247.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=44247.0)

Variety of skinning tutorials: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=41904.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41904.0)

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Nifskope
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3D Skinning Using Tattoo and NIFSkope: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=44198.msg613949#msg613949 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=44198.msg613949#msg613949)

Alphas in Nifskope: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=43996.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=43996.0)

Basic Animation with Nifskope: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=45588.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=45588.0)

Installing NIFSkope and NIFTools for gmax (slightly outdated): http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/NIFgmax_simple_tutorial/installation_tut/index.html (http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/NIFgmax_simple_tutorial/installation_tut/index.html)

Terra forming: http://engineering.freedomu.info/terraforming.htm (http://engineering.freedomu.info/terraforming.htm)

TOMMYBOYS "GHOSTING" MESH Fix: http://tommyboymeshes.freedomforceforever.com/Ghost%20Mesh%20Fix%20Tutorial.html (http://tommyboymeshes.freedomforceforever.com/Ghost%20Mesh%20Fix%20Tutorial.html)

Variety of tutorials: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/NifSkope (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/NifSkope)

Variety of tutorials 2: http://niftools.sourceforge.net/wiki/Freedom_Force (http://niftools.sourceforge.net/wiki/Freedom_Force)

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FX
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Adding fx while flying: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=41901.msg582864#msg582864 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41901.msg582864#msg582864)

How to Install Custom Sounds in FFVTTR: http://frp.unlimited2.net/how-to-install-custom-sounds-in-ffvttr/

How to Merge Dats: http://frp.unlimited2.net/how-to-merge-dats/

Installing custom sounds for fx: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=50673.0

Sample install tutorial: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=40940.msg571668#msg571668 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=40940.msg571668#msg571668)

Variety of FF1 FX tutorials (useful for FFVTTR as well): http://www.fxforce.com/FXLOW.html (http://www.fxforce.com/FXLOW.html)

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Modding/Coding
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Adding a character to the campaign: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Adding+a+character+to+the+game+via+the+editor (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Adding+a+character+to+the+game+via+the+editor)

Adding m25 AI in campaign mods: http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=46935.msg644758#msg644758

Basic scripting: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Scripting (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Scripting)

Beginner's guide: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide (http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide)

Conduit's stutter function: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=42119.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=42119.0)

Cutscenes in FF: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Cutscenes+in+FF (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Cutscenes+in+FF)

Events and Commands: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Events+and+Command+Handlers (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Events+and+Command+Handlers)

EZScript tutorial: http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Tutorials (http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Tutorials)

EZScript/FFX Manual: http://ffx.freedomforceforever.com/manual.htm (http://ffx.freedomforceforever.com/manual.htm)

FFedit tutorial: http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/tempest/modtutorial.html (http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/tempest/modtutorial.html)

Installing mods/making mods: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Mods (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Mods)

Official python tutorial: http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html (http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html)

Scripting a mugging: http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~sholden/site.cgi/STUFF/FFORCE/SCRIPT/ (http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~sholden/site.cgi/STUFF/FFORCE/SCRIPT/)

Scripting for dummies: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Scripting+for+Dummies (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Scripting+for+Dummies)

Scripting tutorial (PDF): http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/downloads/Premo_Scripting_Tutorial.pdf (http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/downloads/Premo_Scripting_Tutorial.pdf)

Tools and resources: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Scripting+Tools+and+Resources (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Scripting+Tools+and+Resources)

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Meshing (3d programs, etc.)
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How to convert a mesh: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Converting+Meshes+for+FFVTTR (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Converting+Meshes+for+FFVTTR)

How to Model: http://www.newpowerinc.com/valanderfiles/Tutorial/ModelTut/HowToModel.htm (http://www.newpowerinc.com/valanderfiles/Tutorial/ModelTut/HowToModel.htm)

Maxfiles and simple tutorial (18+ AGE LIMIT): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreedomForceMAX1/files/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreedomForceMAX1/files/)

Meshing tutorials: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=41973.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41973.0)

Rough Tutorial for Creating Destructible Buildings: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=44067.msg608779#msg608779 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=44067.msg608779#msg608779)

Terrain Tutorial: http://meshmatters.awardspace.com/forum/index.php?topic=17.msg53#msg53 (http://meshmatters.awardspace.com/forum/index.php?topic=17.msg53#msg53)

Using Blender to Mesh: http://freedomforce.ewzzy.com/blender.php (http://freedomforce.ewzzy.com/blender.php)

Wing3d FAQ: http://meshmatters.awardspace.com/forum/index.php?topic=8.0 (http://meshmatters.awardspace.com/forum/index.php?topic=8.0)

Wing3d/Nifskope tutorial: http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/tutorial_Wings3D_to_NIF.html (http://phantombunburyist.freedomforceforever.com/tutorial_Wings3D_to_NIF.html)

Wings3d and Nifskope tutorial (DRAFT): http://meshmatters.awardspace.com/forum/index.php?topic=11.0 (http://meshmatters.awardspace.com/forum/index.php?topic=11.0)

Wireframe bounding boxes: http://meshmatters.awardspace.com/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg57#msg57 (http://meshmatters.awardspace.com/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg57#msg57)

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Other
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Alex's Fantastically Fabulous Freedom Force FAQ (variety of faqs; ff1 oriented): http://alexff.com/faq.php (http://alexff.com/faq.php)

Adding more than 25 enemies in Rumble Room: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=41006.msg663629#msg663629 (http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=49868.msg680034#msg680034)
   
Adding sounds (fx) in FFVTTR: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=42851.msg594720#msg594720 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=42851.msg594720#msg594720)

Comic references: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=45556.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=45556.0)

Conduit's Mapmaking FAQ: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=40940.msg571668#msg571668 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=40940.msg571668#msg571668)

FFVTTR Marvel and DC RPG Conversion (PDF): http://taskmasterx.synthasite.com/extras.php

Fixing corrupted Head.nifs: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=51915

Fixing melee errors created in EZHero: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=47065.msg645994#msg645994 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=47065.msg645994#msg645994)

Flying melee: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=41583.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41583.0)

How to use Hamachi to play MP: http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/4991/t1325286-ffvttr-we-play-online/

How to remove damage bubbles/interface: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=47614.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=47614.0)

Install order (FFVTTR): http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=46080.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=46080.0)

Installing maps/conduit/joe tutorials: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Mapping (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Mapping)

Maps 101 - Using Custom Maps: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=41271.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41271.0)

Miscellaneous FF Game Topics / FAQ: http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=49868.0 (http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=49868.0)

Portrait Tutorial: http://www.geocities.com/ff_portraits01/tute.html (http://www.geocities.com/ff_portraits01/tute.html)

Repeating Mesh Fix: instructions (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=44459.0), Downloads (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=44459.msg627215#msg627215), visual tutorial (http://frp.unlimited2.net/ghosting-mesh-tutorial/)

TMX's Character Spotlights (herofiles): http://taskmasterx.synthasite.com/character-spotlight.php

Variety of FF1 tutorials: http://www.freedomfans.com/modforce/tutorials.php (http://www.freedomfans.com/modforce/tutorials.php)

Variety of voicepack tutorials: http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Voicepacks (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Voicepacks)

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M25's + Other useful Tools
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Ezscript assistant: http://gpwarehouse.freedomforceforever.com/ezassist/ (http://gpwarehouse.freedomforceforever.com/ezassist/)

Ezscript Editor: http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Mod+Tools

Hero file to dat: http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Mod+Tools

Keyframe tool: http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Mod+Tools

Lang file generator: http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Mod+Tools (http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Mod+Tools)

m25 minimod installer: http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Installing+Mini-Mods (http://ezscript.wikispaces.com/Installing+Mini-Mods)

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So that's all I have. 60+ links to tutorials that relate to some form of Freedom Force modification. I'll try my best to keep this list up to date. If you have something to add, please do.

Major thanks to Tiobe, (double props to) Stumpy, and everyone whose tutorial I'm linking to. Hopefully, this will help everyone keep up with what's what.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: USAgent on June 15, 2009, 02:54:17 AM
STICKY PLEASE!
thanks for putting this togeather for us Prev, it will be most helpfull to the new guys and us older ones as well.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: stumpy on June 15, 2009, 05:26:11 AM
Stickied!

Thanks, Prev.  :thumbup:

(BTW, I took the liberty of updating the Miscellaneous FF Game Topics / FAQ link to point to the more up-to-date version here rather than the one on the archive.)
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: John Jr. on October 11, 2009, 07:24:27 PM
I tried download the 2 installers of the "Repeating Mesh Animations Fix" topic, but I received a "Sorry, the file you requested is not available." warning.
The file used to fix syntax errors is not available too.
May someone, please, re-upload them?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Previsionary on October 11, 2009, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: John Jr. on October 11, 2009, 07:24:27 PM
I tried download the 2 installers of the "Repeating Mesh Animations Fix" topic, but I received a "Sorry, the file you requested is not available." warning.
The file used to fix syntax errors is not available too.
May someone, please, re-upload them?
Thanks!

They're still up. This post: http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=44459.msg627215#msg627215
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: John Jr. on October 11, 2009, 07:57:55 PM
Thanks a lot, Prev!
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: MisterImmortal2009 on October 13, 2009, 02:34:49 AM
This is an incredible amount of information. Thank you to everyone involved in putting this together. I think it will take me a few months to go through all of this, but I look forward to it.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: John Jr. on December 17, 2010, 01:07:18 AM
Quote from: Previsionary on October 11, 2009, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: John Jr. on October 11, 2009, 07:24:27 PM
I tried download the 2 installers of the "Repeating Mesh Animations Fix" topic, but I received a "Sorry, the file you requested is not available." warning.
The file used to fix syntax errors is not available too.
May someone, please, re-upload them?
Thanks!

They're still up. This post: http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=44459.msg627215#msg627215

I lost the files when my pc crashed and looks like the links are really dead now. I need them to fix my thug skope for my Cap mod, may someone give me a hand?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Previsionary on December 17, 2010, 02:16:52 PM
Really, JJ? Really? :(.

http://frp.unlimited2.net/ghosting-mesh-tutorial/
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: John Jr. on December 17, 2010, 09:44:17 PM
Thanks, big guy! I should know you would already covered it.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Previsionary on January 09, 2012, 11:39:47 PM
This list is back to being fully functional thanks to stumpy and the mod/admin staff! please use it at your own leisure.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: BentonGrey on May 31, 2013, 03:57:31 PM
We should add FR World's FX tutorial under that section in the first post.
http://frworld.wikispaces.com/Installing+FX
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on February 02, 2015, 03:36:27 PM
don't know if this is the right place to put this, but I have a couple of ideas for new fx. i know that there was a fx tutorial on fxforce, but is there anything that shows how to make new fx using nifSkope?
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 03, 2015, 12:27:04 AM
If you want a very simple Tutorial (But long and with lots of pictures), I can send you something, but as far as real Tutorials, I don't believe that I have seen anything anywhere.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Amazo Version 2.2 on February 03, 2015, 11:06:23 PM
i will take whatever you have.  :thumbup: and what exactly is a 'real' tutorial?  :unsure:
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 04, 2015, 03:02:21 AM
Quote from: Amazo Version 2.2 on February 03, 2015, 11:06:23 PM
i will take whatever you have.  :thumbup: and what exactly is a 'real' tutorial?  :unsure:

A real Tutorial is one written by someone other than me.  :P
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: comicstar1002014 on May 26, 2015, 06:42:31 AM
The link for adding a character to the campaign is down.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: stumpy on May 26, 2015, 08:14:48 AM
Unfortunately, wikispaces no longer offers free wiki hosting for non-education wikis (including non-profit ones, like FRWorld). I don't know who here was an admin on the FRWorld wiki, but it might be possible for them to arrange access to that content, at least for long enough to get enough of it to make it available elsewhere.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Cyber Burn on May 26, 2015, 01:17:14 PM
Quote from: stumpy on May 26, 2015, 08:14:48 AM
Unfortunately, wikispaces no longer offers free wiki hosting for non-education wikis (including non-profit ones, like FRWorld). I don't know who here was an admin on the FRWorld wiki, but it might be possible for them to arrange access to that content, at least for long enough to get enough of it to make it available elsewhere.

I downloaded everything I could, all the HTML Files, but don't have a clue as to what to do with them. There was a Forum Member who I thought was setting something up, but it's been a while since I've talked to him. If anyone wants these files, and wants to try and set up a new site similar to the Wiki, I would be glad to send the files their way.

On a side note, M25's Mod Tools are no longer hosted as well, but I do have them hosted on MediaFire as a temporary solution until proper hosting can be found.

In the meantime, try this: http://www.mediafire.com/view/h317h2hk4wwp4cn/Modding_Tutorial_for_Adding_Characters_to_FF1_by_Wickerman.docx
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: SickAlice on May 26, 2015, 05:05:25 PM
I'll try and pitch on this on my end as well. I'm pretty adamant about getting community effort going were we all try and educate one another and increase our skills. I also want to current links list for meshes and skin, more on that elsewhere.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Neros Urameshi on December 21, 2016, 11:34:13 PM
Do any of these happen to mention game menu changing or something like that?
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: stumpy on December 28, 2016, 01:36:12 AM
Quote from: Neros Urameshi on December 21, 2016, 11:34:13 PM
Do any of these happen to mention game menu changing or something like that?
I am not sure what you are asking here. If you can be a bit more exact (perhaps give an example), maybe it will ring a bell with someone.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Neros Urameshi on January 06, 2017, 04:33:44 PM
Never mind, I fixed my problem.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Dreaded Porcupine on November 15, 2017, 01:33:16 AM
Wow! I just got back into the game and can't remember how I installed everything. These tutorials will come in handy. I saved everything on an external hard drive. Now I just need to install everything in the right order in the right place again. Then once I do that I'm going to download all the cool stuff here that has been created over the last five years or so. Thanks for putting this list together. I'm going to need it.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: spydermann93 on November 15, 2017, 02:03:29 AM
Easy way to install :ffvstr:

1. FFvtTR (obviously :P)
2. EzFx 6.0 (found here: http://www.alexff.com/goodies.php)
3. FFX 3.3.1.0 (found here: http://ffx.freedomforceforever.com/)
4. PFX 1.2 (found here: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2455688dit53d/FRP2_Backups#yqsrnslblsvy7)
5. FF Mod Tools (found in the same spot as EzFX)
6. EzHero 5.7 (found in the same spot as EzFX)

That should set you up pretty nicely ^_^
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Dreaded Porcupine on November 16, 2017, 05:12:38 PM
Thanks Spydermann. Going to do it this weekend. Just don't have the time I used to.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 10, 2018, 07:56:25 PM
I stumbled upon this today, and since this seems to come up quite a bit, I figured I'd post the Link in the event that anyone is interested.

https://www.howtogeek.com/340372/how-to-take-screenshots-of-your-pc-games/

Just a heads up though, I have not had a chance to try this out yet, but if anyone does, and it works, please let me know, and I'll clean it up and put it into a PDF File.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: AutumnCreed on April 26, 2018, 07:38:50 PM
the http://frworld.wikispaces.com/ (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/) needs to be reactivated ;)

QuoteThis wiki's subscription has expired. The wiki will be reactivated once one of the wiki organizers renews the wiki's subscription.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Cyber Burn on April 27, 2018, 03:14:35 AM
Quote from: AutumnCreed on April 26, 2018, 07:38:50 PM
the http://frworld.wikispaces.com/ (http://frworld.wikispaces.com/) needs to be reactivated ;)

QuoteThis wiki's subscription has expired. The wiki will be reactivated once one of the wiki organizers renews the wiki's subscription.

Probably won't happen any time soon, but you could try going here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Freedom_Force_Resources/info

You should find most of the information that was on the wiki.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 08, 2019, 08:19:15 PM
For those of you using Paint.Net, and would like to use PhotoShop Plug-Ins, there is a tutorial located here:

How To Install Photoshop Plugins in Paint.NET: https://www.namesuppressed.com/support/plugins-paint-net.shtml
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: BentonGrey on June 12, 2019, 03:41:24 PM
Hey, would someone edit the wiki Tutorials to point to my new hosting of them now that the wiki is defunct?  I don't have all of them, but I'm adding them (slowly).
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/freedom-force-modding/

Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Cyber Burn on June 12, 2019, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on June 12, 2019, 03:41:24 PM
Hey, would someone edit the wiki Tutorials to point to my new hosting of them now that the wiki is defunct?  I don't have all of them, but I'm adding them (slowly).
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/freedom-force-modding/

That would probably have to be Prem since it was his original post. But in the meantime, I had downloaded all of the HTML Files from the Wiki, so if you're interested, I could send you those. Plus, I could send you everything else I've either found or created that's in the Resources Yahoo Group (or is waiting to be placed into the Resources Yahoo Group). For most of those, I should have both PDF Files and Word or Excel Files.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Deaths Jester on September 19, 2022, 05:09:00 AM
Going to be a bit hard for cyberburn to supply them to you seeing as he is no longer with us unhappily.

I've held my tongue up till now with your necroposting but...check the dates of the posts and pay attention to who you are asking things of. Asking a respected member who is no longer with us does nothing but dredge up old memories and reminds us folks like CB and daglob are no longer around. Doesn't really make folks want to help out when you do stuff like that!

If you are really lucky BG might have them and when he gets time - which is something he is short on right now - maybe point you to yikes they are kept but knowing how busy he is...questionable.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Deaths Jester on September 19, 2022, 04:05:49 PM
News about cyber burn's passing is  easy to find...two or three threads below the news about da glob in the general discussion section. Might i suggest you spend some time reading some of those pages along with the stickie's at the top of each section - you will learn a lot that way and not have to "rely on so many interactions"...because when you do something like this here - it comes off as you didn't even have the respect to spend time looking around the forum first and learning about the community/catching yourself up on what has transpired since you were last here.

BG is short for Benton gray.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: mac402 on September 19, 2022, 04:19:13 PM
Were the tutorials from Yahoo Groups re-uploaded anywhere? If not, I still have them and could upload to mediafire for the time being.
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: Tomato on September 19, 2022, 04:47:43 PM
So I'm going to wade in here... I sympathize with not knowing cb was... gone (nothing in here directly links to it, and my guess is you saw dg's thread because I've mentioned his passing multiple times) but DJ is correct that:

A. This is a thread from 3 years ago, and if you had pulled up his account you would see he was last online sep 1st 2020. At minimum he was not currently active.

B. This is an OLD thread, and you would have been better served making a new one ("I saw a thread from 2019 about tutorials, heres a link to it, does anyone here have them?") Rather than necroposting something from 2019, specifically *because* you have no idea who is active, who is dead, who isnt here... etc.

C. I don't put full responsibility on you for it (i want to be clear that i do think it is unfair for dj to fully expect you to just know) but Cyber's passing is recent enough that any amount of board searching would likely have pulled up something, either here or on the discord. So while I dont think you deserve the full reaction dj has showcased, you do bear something like... 10-20% of the responsibility for not even trying to look first. As dj says, the thread about it is still near the top of general discussion (fifth down) and is titled "News about Cyber Burn".
Title: Re: Comprehensive List of Tutorials
Post by: hmarrs on September 23, 2022, 08:04:56 PM
El,
We understand where your comming from trust me we do and everyone has stated that we understand where you are comming from.

No one is blaming you directly...
It's just very painful for us especially many of us O.G.s
That have been on here 20+ Years.
We either grew up or grew older together.

It still hurts me just thinking about it.

Its just painful to be reminded that's all.