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Title: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on April 09, 2013, 03:42:48 PM
Source link (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/176063-batman-arkham-origins-coming-this-year)

QuoteRumors began circulating last year that the next entry in the "Arkham" games would be an origin story and Game Informer has revealed that those rumors were in fact true. Titled Batman: Arkham Origins, the game will take place before the previous two games in the series and will detail Batman's first time meeting with several characters. One of the developers on the game described its plot as follows:

"Eight of the best assassins in the world have come to Gotham City for one night, Christmas Eve of all nights, to kill the Bat."

Though not confirmed, it would appear the game will take place in and around Gotham City in an open-world environment like the previous game, "Arkham City."

Fans will notice that the biggest difference between this and the previous "Arkham" games is that Rocksteady is not developing the title. Instead, Warner Bros. Games Montreal has been given the reigns of the franchise. Batman: Arkham Origins will be available for the Wii U, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and PC on October 25, 2013.

They've also announced that the first handheld entry in the franchise will be available on the same day. Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate will launch for the 3DS and PS Vita and is a different experience that picks up after the events of Batman: Arkham Origins.

Check out Game Informer's cover of the game for the first look at one of the franchise's newest villains, Deathstroke, as well as the game's official logo below!

(http://cdn1.superherohype.com/images/stories/2013/April/arkham_origins_625.jpg?1365519681)
(http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/batmanarkhamoriginslogo.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on April 09, 2013, 10:42:27 PM
The concept sounds okay, but not being made by Rocksteady?  That kills a lot of my interest right there.  The doesn't mean I'll refuse to play it or anything, but I probably won't be grabbing it right away.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on April 09, 2013, 11:23:45 PM
More Arkham games is a good thing in my book. As it's not by Rocksteady, and I suspect it's being done in a short time frame, my expectations are tempered but supposedly the new developer has access to Rocksteady's engine so it should still be a fun game. Personally the story is my biggest concern.

I loved the first two games, I'm hoping this will give me more of the same enjoyment.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on April 10, 2013, 03:52:35 PM
Yep, story is by far one of the best features of the series.  Both games have been excellently crafted.  The absence of Rocksteady gives me pause.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on April 10, 2013, 04:10:18 PM
Honestly my fears as far as the story goes have less to do with the absence of Rocksteady (though that doesn't help) and more to do with the lack of Paul Dini, who was a major voice in the animated series and both Arkham games. Arkham's crafted what I would consider to be the definitive version of several characters (not only enhancing the characters of Joker, Quinn, and Batman from the animated series, but also redefining characters like Riddler and Penquin) in no small part because of Paul Dini's involvement.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on April 10, 2013, 10:30:59 PM
I agree that Arkham City's versions of Penguin and Riddler are great takes on both characters, probably the best I've seen.

But yeah, if Dini's not involved, that makes it even worse.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: detourne_me on April 11, 2013, 05:38:13 AM
Let's think about this here for a second...
No Paul Dini
No Rocksteady
but
A new Batman game built off a VERY solid foundation
Revealed enemies include Deathstroke, Penguin, and Black Mask
It's a prequel so the dev team doesn't need to get too crazy by adding new features
....
Yeah, it's still an instabuy for me.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on April 11, 2013, 06:14:51 AM
Oh, don't get me wrong, I plan to at least buy the main game, though I might pass on the portable ones. I'm just not as enthusiastic as I would be if Paul Dini were helming it.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on April 11, 2013, 05:34:40 PM
Rocksteady Gives Their Blessing to Batman: Arkham Origins (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/176099-rocksteady-gives-their-blessing-to-batman-arkham-origins)

QuoteIt was revealed yesterday that the next entry in the 'Arkham' franchise, Batman: Arkham Origins, will be released later this year and what caused concern for many fans was that developer Rocksteady was not on the project. Instead, Warner Bros. Games Montreal has been tasked with bringing the game to life. Fans will be glad to hear that Rocksteady has given Warner Bros. Games Montreal their blessing for the game.
"Rocksteady is excited to see WB Games Montreal developing the prequel to the Batman Arkham franchise," said Sefton Hill, director of the first two "Arkham" games, to Game Informer (via CVG). "We are confident this talented team will craft a fantastic experience, bringing the origins of the Arkhamverse to life."

Batman: Arkam Origins will see eight of the best assassins in the world come to Gotham City for one night, Christmas Eve, to try and kill Batman. With even some of the Gotham's finest turning against him, the prequel story will force the Dark Knight to forge relationships with characters for the first time and find out why so many want him dead.

Batman: Arkham Origins will be available for the Wii U, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and PC on October 25, 2013.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on April 11, 2013, 05:47:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bk1zoY2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/u3JvOHC.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/yeodW5n.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/KHM2D77.jpg)

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(http://i.imgur.com/gC9tO7q.jpg)

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Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on April 11, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: detourne_me on April 11, 2013, 05:38:13 AM
Let's think about this here for a second...
No Paul Dini
No Rocksteady
but
A new Batman game built off a VERY solid foundation
Revealed enemies include Deathstroke, Penguin, and Black Mask
It's a prequel so the dev team doesn't need to get too crazy by adding new features
....
Yeah, it's still an instabuy for me.

See, the thing is Arkham City is a work of art.  It's not just the graphics engine or the gameplay, it's the whole package.  It's the myriads of small details.  It's the little nods to Batman history and DC comics stories everywhere.  It's the little details.  It's the interesting storyplay and the way everything melds together.  It's actually pretty rare when a game really comes together to this level, let alone being done twice, even by the same team.  There are plenty of good games, even excellent ones, but few on this level.

Could this team make a decent game, even a good one?  Sure.  It seems they have the art nailed down at least.  But I doubt that it will be at all the same thing.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: laughing paradox on April 13, 2013, 10:15:46 PM
This looks like fun, and I'm going to get it either way.

It's nice that Rocksteady is giving this game its blessing.

What I am curious about is this: Who are the 8 assassins?

Murs and I tried to come up with some ideas

Lady Shiva
Bronze Tiger
Merlyn
KGBeast
Deadshot

I wanted to say Azrael, but I reminded that this is a prequel and Azrael showed up in Arkham City as a new guy.

Who else could be in this game?
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on April 14, 2013, 12:29:18 AM
I wouldn't say Deadshot either. The game doesn't say it directly, but the impression I have from the dialogue(especially Alfred's quip about the world's greatest assassin vs the world's greatest detective) in Arkham City is that the side quest was the first time Batman had fought him... not that they couldn't retcon it for the new game, but I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on April 14, 2013, 01:02:06 AM
LP you hit up most of the characters I was thinking of, but to name a few more obscure others that could work:
David Cane
Shrike
Brutale
Lady Vic
Onyxx

I'm very interested see what they go with.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BWPS on April 14, 2013, 01:49:19 AM
Boycotting this one until they add Simon the Pieman. DLC missions at the very least.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Silver Shocker on April 16, 2013, 03:28:34 PM
 Black Mask confirmed as the main villain.  (http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/50172/black-mask-revealed-as-the-main-villain-in-batman-arkham-origins)

I think I'm ok with this. Most of the great Bat villains have been done and of the ones that haven't gotten much focus, Black Mask is one of the cool ones, and he fits the mobster role. As for the game, I'm excited for it but hoping the change in developer and lack of Dini won't hurt it too much. Not sure what to think about the portable installment as yet, will have to see some screenshots, footage, ect. before I can say if I'm interested in that.

Also, in an  article I read a week ago or so, they claimed the city in this new game will be twice the size of the one in Arkham City, but that they also want to make sure traversing it isn't tedious. I hope they deliver, it sounds good if they can pull it off.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: UnkoMan on April 16, 2013, 03:54:00 PM
I really like Black Mask's design here. That suit is slick, and the mask actually looks like a mask, not just a skull head. Very cool.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on April 30, 2013, 03:13:33 AM
Very disappointing news, Kevin Conroy won't be reprising his role of Batman in Arkham Origins (http://www.gamesradar.com/batman-arkham-origins-wont-star-kevin-conroy/)  :(

Curious who will be replacing him though. Apparently they want a younger Bruce Wayne. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Troy Baker.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on April 30, 2013, 07:28:16 AM
I saw this Saturday, but before anyone freaks out, the announcement is NOT coming directly from WB Montreal. As of now, the ONLY source for this information is from the may issue of a South African magazine called NAG. Until Montreal officially elaborates on the decision and/or we hear who they ARE planning on using, I'd take this with a few grains of salt.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on May 16, 2013, 08:49:05 PM
teaser is up. I'd link to it/ express my thoughts, but I'm at work and videos are blocked on public wifi
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on May 19, 2013, 09:07:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNFrBb7h4_g

Kevin Conroy himself confirms that he IS in Arkham: Origins. Thus proving that jumping to conclusions based on an article in a south african gaming magazine is not the smartest thing you could possibly be doing with your time.





Oh, did I mention, I told you so?
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on May 20, 2013, 05:02:39 AM
Great news, wouldn't be the same without him.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: laughing paradox on May 20, 2013, 05:09:55 AM
So Deathstroke is apparently going to be a playable DLC character for the game.

In what context, however, is unknown. (Meaning if he will have a storyline like Catwoman in Arkham City, or more like a fighter to be used in the trial runs like Robin.)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on May 20, 2013, 03:33:12 PM
Apparently he is not voicing young Batman
http://www.gamespot.com/news/resident-evil-bioshock-voice-actors-behind-batman-arkham-origins-6408580

Since Konroy is involved, maybe he's the narrator? Older Batman remembering his beginnings? Hamill not being Joker isn't a surprise since he announced his departure a while ago. But they are using experienced voice actors so looking forward to hearing them. Oh and full trailer is in the article too, looks very cool. 
Spoiler
Not a fan of Deadshot's look tbh
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on May 20, 2013, 06:14:31 PM
Hmm so I was close. Baker is playing the Joker, with Roger Craig Smith as Batman (who would have also been on my shortlist of guesses). Good voice actors, but they're kinda in everything.


Quote from: laughing paradox on May 20, 2013, 05:09:55 AM
So Deathstroke is apparently going to be a playable DLC character for the game.
In what context, however, is unknown. (Meaning if he will have a storyline like Catwoman in Arkham City, or more like a fighter to be used in the trial runs like Robin.)

Newsarama  (http://www.newsarama.com/17855-deathstroke-playable-in-batman-arkham-origins.html)claims it's just for the Challenge mode. He's DLC like Robin.


Haven't seen the trailer yet. May have more comments then.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Talavar on May 20, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
Kevin Conroy has tweeted about being involved in a new Arkham game, however, that isn't Origin: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=45596 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=45596)  Another installment actually being worked on by Rocksteady perhaps?
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on May 21, 2013, 01:12:11 AM
I could see that. I'd guess that they're splitting duties between different studios to help pound out games in a more reasonable time frame and keep momentum going for the series.

That said, while everything I've seen on Arkham Origins thus far has been good, I'm not exactly excited by the villain choices thus far. Black Mask is awesome and Joker's obviously back, but the others we've heard... Meh. Deathstroke isn't nearly as interesting without his history against the Titans, Deadshot is kinda overused right now, and... Anarchy, really?

I'm sorry, but even excluding what we've seen from the first two games, there are PLENTY of batman villains who have yet to get properly adapted. While I have no doubt that guys like Anarchy can be interesting (Arkham City proved that MAD HATTER could be a cool villain), I'd rather see more classic rogues like Ventriloquist or, hell, Man-Bat get that treatment. And that's not even counting characters like Two-Face and Penguin who'd might be more interesting from a year one perspective.

But oh well, I guess we'll have Bane. Because he hasn't been in enough lately, he needs to be in Origins too.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on May 21, 2013, 01:23:45 AM
I've watched the Trailer now, and it's one of those CG trailers that doesn't tell you anything about the game play, but the story premise it expresses looks good. I like Black Mask and Deathstroke, and we've got Penguin, Deadshot, Bane, Joker and Anarky (and I'm probably missing a couple of guys). That's a pretty decent rogues gallery. Pretty optimistic about this game so far.

If Batman games ended up being like Call Of Duty with a game every year or so, I'd be pretty happy honestly. As long as the stories continued to be good.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: lugaru on May 21, 2013, 03:07:16 PM
I have a hard time getting especially enthused about Deathstroke, but he should make for some great fights. I hope they can work in more of the off the wall villains, like the stuff with Scarecrow in Asylum was great, or The Penguin with his frozen enviroments. I would love to see Mad Hatter with scores of mismatched mind controlled minions (kinda like Poison Ivy had) and nutty Alice in Wonderland themed traps.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on May 22, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
Batman: Arkham Origins Official Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnK8akbd2M)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on June 11, 2013, 08:27:04 AM
E3 trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOq7V73UPC0)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on June 11, 2013, 07:18:56 PM

E3 2013 | Batman: Arkham Origins First Gameplay Footage [HD]
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5-uzd1cbze8)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on June 12, 2013, 12:29:40 AM
Looking great so far.
The brief clips I've heard of the new Batman and Joker voices sound good, and I'm really excited about the martial artist enemy that can counter you. That was an idea I had and I'm really glad they went with it.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on June 12, 2013, 04:20:49 AM
Batman: Arkham Origins PS3 'Knightfall' content detailed
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/11/batman-arkham-origins-ps3-knightfall-content-detailed/

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2013/06/xbetterbatman.png.pagespeed.ic.TUrxwdYSBM.png)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: laughing paradox on June 12, 2013, 04:29:18 PM
I'm glad this game isn't trying to reinvent the wheel, just giving us some more fun Batman: Arkham goodness. I like some of the additions they have shown in the E3 gameplay clip.

That Azrael Batman suit looks great!

I wonder if we are going to get a second character to control within the story, like Catwoman in Arkham City.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on June 12, 2013, 06:09:57 PM
Since I know you all aren't exactly into the action figure scene, DC Collectibles just revealed the new Arkham Origins figures of Bane and Joker (which gives us a clearer look at both)

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/dSFQbOi.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/LTtelxv.jpg)

I like Bane, but not as much as I think I should. I'm glad to have something other than his Asylum design, but for some reason I'm not exactly excited about this one either. Joker is... eh. It's good enough and I don't hate it, but the design from Asylum was pretty much perfect. It works in the same way Batman's costume does, as a "prototype" look for the character.

Edit: I just realized why Bane's design bugs me... it's too military, and seems to be trying to pull a bunch of costume elements his appearance in tdkr. Tom Hardy was an interesting enough antagonist, but he wasn't Bane, and seeing those elements here makes me uneasy.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Shogunn2517 on June 13, 2013, 04:17:33 AM
Here's IGN's play-through of the same demo posted by Midnite.  Though it's technically nearly twice as long, the game play is different and there are some different scenes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS3upAxmLaY
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on June 15, 2013, 02:30:14 AM
Batman: Arkham Origins - E3 Trailer Analysis  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su1V4A0AsfI)

Just pointing out some cool little easter eggs hidden in the trailer (references to characters, gang members from the comics, etc.) They haven't done one of the gameplay demo yet, but that's probably coming.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on June 17, 2013, 03:20:06 AM
Footage of AO: Blackgate for the VITA, with Catwoman. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFnKpq5HykI)

Yeah... if I had been debating whether to get this game or not, this demo clinched it. I want more catwoman dangit!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Silver Shocker on June 17, 2013, 04:41:20 AM
Ok, that actually really impressed me. I was kinda disappointed  when I found out the portable game would be a 2.5D game, but now that seems entirely dismissive. They clearly put a lot of work into making it look like the Batman Arkham series. I'll likely get that on the Vita when it comes out.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on July 10, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
Hi-Res Adam West Batman
Spoiler
(http://i1.wp.com/batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/AdamWestArkhamOrigins.jpg?w=800)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on July 10, 2013, 10:14:18 PM
mehhhhh... for some reason I really dislike that skin. I think it's the lack of adam west visage... as is, the thing looks like arkham batman cosplaying as adam west.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on July 10, 2013, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: Tomato on July 10, 2013, 10:14:18 PM
as is, the thing looks like arkham batman cosplaying as adam west.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: thalaw2 on July 11, 2013, 01:01:22 PM
Me want Azbats
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on July 11, 2013, 03:03:33 PM
Haha...yeah, it's somewhat incongruous. 
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Cyber Burn on July 11, 2013, 09:27:33 PM
As much as I love the old Adam West version of Batman, I'll hold my tongue and just say that this isn't doing him justice.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: detourne_me on July 11, 2013, 09:30:27 PM
Yeah I always felt like a sucker for getting the DLC in Asylum and City. 
Timmverse batman looks great, but when the rest of the world has a certain style... Ugh.  Kind of wish they were full texture mods.  That would be something I'd pay ten bucks for, a reskin of all the characters
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on July 11, 2013, 09:31:36 PM
Quote from: detourne_me on July 11, 2013, 09:30:27 PM
Yeah I always felt like a sucker for getting the DLC in Asylum and City. 
Timmverse batman looks great, but when the rest of the world has a certain style... Ugh.  Kind of wish they were full texture mods.  That would be something I'd pay ten bucks for, a reskin of all the characters
Ditto!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on July 11, 2013, 11:42:58 PM
Harley's revenge is the only DLC I bought for either.  That one was worth it, to me at least.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on July 13, 2013, 05:42:39 PM
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4528/65ij.jpg)

- a holographic collector's box
- unique 3D metal game pack
- an Art of Batman Arkham Origins book
- a gorgeous 23cm tall Batman/Joker figure
- and two codes for 'exclusive' DLC.

Hi-Res AzBats
Spoiler
(http://www.arkhamverse.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/BOqPOd0CAAAq4fa.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on July 18, 2013, 02:47:59 PM
Deadshot Figure From Arkham Origins at SDCC (http://toynewsi.com/ig.php?dispsize=800&mode=view&album=2013_San_Diego_Comic_Con/DC_Collectibles/Preview_Night&pic=IMG_3874.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on July 18, 2013, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: Tomato on July 18, 2013, 02:47:59 PM
Deadshot Figure From Arkham Origins at SDCC (http://toynewsi.com/ig.php?dispsize=800&mode=view&album=2013_San_Diego_Comic_Con/DC_Collectibles/Preview_Night&pic=IMG_3874.jpg)

Really cool display from DC Collectibles. Definitely getting that Black Mask for my Batman display.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on July 18, 2013, 10:37:21 PM
Batman: Arkham Origins - Copperhead Trailer (1080p) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TYxiqIf6rdY)

(http://cdn2.superherohype.com/images/stories/2013/July/copperheadtrailer.jpg?1374183127)

Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on July 19, 2013, 12:31:21 AM
I'm more impressed with this game each time I see it.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on July 19, 2013, 02:38:43 AM
Quote from: bat1987 on July 18, 2013, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: Tomato on July 18, 2013, 02:47:59 PM
Deadshot Figure From Arkham Origins at SDCC (http://toynewsi.com/ig.php?dispsize=800&mode=view&album=2013_San_Diego_Comic_Con/DC_Collectibles/Preview_Night&pic=IMG_3874.jpg)

Really cool display from DC Collectibles. Definitely getting that Black Mask for my Batman display.

I've pre-ordered Black Mask and Bane already, but I likely won't be getting Deathstroke or Deadshot. Nothing against them (I actually like Deadshot's design more than his City one, and both Origins figures are awesome) but I have enough actual Batman villains to buy without adding DCU villains on top of that.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on July 19, 2013, 01:31:37 PM
Since when is Copperhead a girl?
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Cyber Burn on July 19, 2013, 01:33:19 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on July 19, 2013, 01:31:37 PM
Since when is Copperhead a girl?

Glad it wasn't just me wondering that.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on July 19, 2013, 03:22:07 PM
It actually references that in the trailer early on "There's a face I don't recognize: Copperhead. Strange, these reports reference a male, not a female." which leads me to believe they'll explain in the game itself.

From what I understand, this is a new version of the character for the video game. I have heard that she's gonna be brought into the comics after the game comes out, however.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: JKCarrier on July 20, 2013, 02:14:20 AM
I'm ok with having a female Copperhead, but I'm not crazy about the design. She looks more like a female Green Arrow than anything to do with snakes.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on July 20, 2013, 02:20:56 AM
Are you going by the trailer or just the one pic? because her outfit is oranges and browns in-game, the green is just the weird lighting on the pic.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on July 21, 2013, 07:17:33 PM
Looks pretty cool. Really looking forward to fights with these assassins. But they just have to have Lady Shiva somewhere in the mix. Very obvious choice, but one that I'm hoping for.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: murs47 on July 22, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
Whoa! She was pretty awesome!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on July 25, 2013, 05:49:31 AM
Gamestop exclusive DLC is to play as Black Mask in challenge maps. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cevu9LXpaA)


...


Really? playing as Black Mask? I mean, yeah, I really like the character, but he's crime boss, not a fighter. I wouldn't want to play as Two Face either, and he's my favorite batman villain. I REALLY hope it's a mistake.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on July 31, 2013, 01:32:05 PM
OK, this was unexpected!

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-15690-Batman--Arkham-Origins-Multiplayer-Hands-On-Preview-----Heroes-and-Zeroes.html

If it plays as cool as it sounds, can't wait for it. I'm usually against multiplayer in these type of games, but this sounds like lots of fun.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on July 31, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
That sounds pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on July 31, 2013, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on July 31, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
That sounds pretty interesting.

It really does, and the fact they hired additional dev team (splash damage) to make it, reassures me this won't affect the quality of the campaign mode.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: captainawesome on July 31, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
Seems like an interesting idea. Still, if they're doing multiplayer, I would much rather have a two player co-op mode (one as Batman, one as Nightwing, Robin, or Batgirl). Probably not for the regular campaign, but some long side missions would be great. I think that it would make predator challenges a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on August 01, 2013, 02:59:04 AM
That does seem like a pretty cool multiplayer. I don't really play much online multiplayer but I'll certainly give this a try at least once.
Robins new design seems nice from what I can see.

Co-op would be a lot of fun, but I gotta be honest the Arkham games are near perfection the thought of changing them makes me nervous.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: detourne_me on August 01, 2013, 10:12:41 AM
did anyone else get a beta invite?   I havent been able to register my invite yet... i JUST got home from vacation.
i never even knew there would be a beta for this game..
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on August 02, 2013, 03:26:33 AM
Quote from: Podmark on August 01, 2013, 02:59:04 AM
That does seem like a pretty cool multiplayer. I don't really play much online multiplayer but I'll certainly give this a try at least once.
Robins new design seems nice from what I can see.

Co-op would be a lot of fun, but I gotta be honest the Arkham games are near perfection the thought of changing them makes me nervous.

From what I understand, multiplayer is actually separate from the game itself and is more along the lines of the challenge modes in previous games... optional to the main story, and purely for fans who just want to get a bit more life out of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXJUD-h77yw -more info

So, if I wasn't enthusiastic about the game before, I'm definitely getting it now. Need to see the preorder bonuses.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: captainawesome on August 02, 2013, 03:38:47 AM
Wow, just read that the Wii U version won't have multiplayer. That's irritating. Still, the pc version should be good.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on August 02, 2013, 03:52:28 AM
I got an "invite" as well, but it's more just registering for a potential beta if they deign you worthy... so we'll see.

Anyway, pre-orders officially paid for. Ps3 main game, 3ds portable (don't have a vita, don't really want one)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on August 07, 2013, 02:07:18 PM
Batman: Arkham Origins : Batman Legends Skins Pack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5vqDi6bzEg)
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on August 20, 2013, 07:54:31 PM
Nowhere to run trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vJY9eHFdAU

Lots of cool new stuff revealed Firefly, Alfred, Gordon. Boss fights look like they are gonna be a blast.

One thing did bother me, I don't like how Alfred sounds for some reason.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on August 20, 2013, 08:36:56 PM
Okay, the new Batman and Joker voices aren't bad.  Not exactly the same, but close enough to pass as younger versions of the same character.  I'm rather impressed, actually.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on August 20, 2013, 11:51:35 PM
If the trailers are any indication, this game is going to be awesome!
Looks like the boss fights will involve more direct combat, which is great. I read an article where the devs were saying they wanted to make the boss fights more like the Mr. Freeze one. Good choice.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on September 21, 2013, 11:25:49 AM
Achievements leaked
http://www.exophase.com/game/ozzy-codename-xbox/achievements/

This confirms a new assassin

Spoiler
Lady Shiva! Can't wait!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on October 13, 2013, 06:18:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pAn49oUtHJE#t=129 -Wow. I mean... wow.

Guys... I know none of us ever wanted to see Mark Hamill step down, but really, if he's gotta be replaced... I'm glad they got Troy to do it. Dude gets it.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on October 13, 2013, 02:58:03 PM
Wow is all I can say. Sad to see Hamill go ofc but that was awesome sauce.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on October 13, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
In other news, the sixth official assassin reveal happened at NYCC, the Electrocutioner.

(I'm gonna be honest guys, the fact that we're seeing so many obscure villains get the punched up arkham treatment makes me sad that we haven't seen the likes of Ventriloquist or Man Bat (the later not even being referenced.))

Also, Arkham Origins will have a tie-in game for the droid/ios. That's... a thing.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: laughing paradox on October 14, 2013, 07:16:54 PM
I like Electrocutioner's design in the game. I also like that they are using characters we don't normally see in games.

I'm really stoked about Lady Shiva! She's a personal favorite.

I might even buy the Season Pass for the game. I've seen some videos of the multiplayer mode and it looks like a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: JeyNyce on October 15, 2013, 04:56:13 PM
I already pre-order the collector's edition and the season pass.  I didn't know you could pre-order a season pass, they really want your money, huh?
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on October 15, 2013, 05:34:23 PM
Wow, that is quite impressive.  He sounds just like Hamill, meaning, he sounds just like the Joker.  That's pretty awesome.

Also, the Electrocutioner?  Ha, cool.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on October 17, 2013, 01:45:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPy1PvEi76M -this was a pretty funny commercial for the game. Love how the doctor's just kind of like "eh, seen worse"
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Gremlin on October 24, 2013, 03:51:34 AM
Quote from: Tomato on October 13, 2013, 06:18:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pAn49oUtHJE#t=129 -Wow. I mean... wow.

Guys... I know none of us ever wanted to see Mark Hamill step down, but really, if he's gotta be replaced... I'm glad they got Troy to do it. Dude gets it.

Ah, I'm torn between loving how much he sounds like Hamill and hating how much he's trying to sound like Hamill.

I like him more than not-Kevin Conroy, though.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: JeyNyce on October 24, 2013, 10:59:45 PM
Even Batman wants the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_0zfpfJToY
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on October 25, 2013, 09:26:10 PM
So, despite my copy of the game guide likely arriving tomorrow (it's in the state already, amd we have all of saturday to get it to my house) the games will likely not arrive until tuesday/wednesday. This is a game I'm really looking forward to, and the fact that I have to wait when I have the weekend off irks me.

In other words, if a single one of you posts spoilers without the tags, I will track you down and gut you like a fish. You have been warned.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 25, 2013, 11:34:24 PM
Warning well taken.  Also, PC's rule.  I had my copy immediately ready to go at midnight.

So as to avoid Tomato's wrath, I will mostly say that I am enjoying it so far.  Actually, I've barely played, so I know nothing to spoil anyways.  I plan on trying the multiplayer mode at some point tonight as well, so I'll let you all know about that.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on October 26, 2013, 05:17:14 AM
Did any of you get to the second act yet? It was crazy when Tim Drake killed the Joker!!!


Anyway looks like my copy won't arrive until early next week. Disappointing but I'll manage. Watched a review and the game looks great. The only real complaint I've heard is that it doesn't innovate much from City, and I'm fine with that. Didn't expect it to anyway.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on October 26, 2013, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Podmark on October 26, 2013, 05:17:14 AM
Watched a review and the game looks great. The only real complaint I've heard is that it doesn't innovate much from City, and I'm fine with that. Didn't expect it to anyway.

I noticed in some reviews that since its not made by Rocksteady, that they are nitpicking a lot and trying to find something wrong. The fact that they are complaining about not much innovation here and not on CoD games is really funny.

That being said, they did go "if it ain't broke don't fix it" route here (won't get to play until wednesday just judging by the videos), and I'm ok with that since this is obviously here to keep us playing until next Rocksteady Arkham entry.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 26, 2013, 01:04:23 PM
Well, they did manage to break the PC version as there are some showstopping bugs that may prevent me from playing at all until they patch it.  The game won't progress beyond a certain point and the mutiplayer mode freezes whenever I try to start a game, plus the game keeps losing the progress of anyone who does manage to play it.  So yeah rather cranky about it being so buggy as to be unplayable in certain ways.  Have not heard the same complaints on other platforms, so maybe PC's don't rule after all.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on October 27, 2013, 09:53:32 AM
So after arguing with myself for several hours, trying to take my mind off of it with pokemon and various youtube videos, I finally caved and watched a playthrough of the first level and boss fight.

Spoiler
I'm gonna be honest, I went into some hardcore fanboy squee territory when I heard Robert Costanzo's voice make a snarky comment to Gordon at the end of the level. Video link here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=SPJms5sWamFOU1VLLyteu_qhjHreHaInk8&feature=player_detailpage&v=1dTz0GYE1UE#t=1052) jic anyone missed it.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Silver Shocker on October 29, 2013, 07:17:36 AM
Quote from: PodmarkDid any of you get to the second act yet? It was crazy when Tim Drake killed the Joker!!!

Personally my favorite part was where Bat-mite showed up an hour in, and changed the entire game into a Akham style Brave and the Bold videogame, complete with a perfectly cast Diedrich Bader! How wacky and original! :P

Spoiler
So that really was supposed to be Harvey Bullock? That's awesome!

So I just started playing the portable game, Arkham Origins: Blackgate, on my Playstation Vita. I'm happy to say it's a pretty good game. It plays very similar to the other games in the series, just in a 2.D plane. It's most similar to Arkham Asylum, with the game taking place entirely in a large building with multiple wings and corridors (like Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and it's ilk). The hacking minigame is done a little differently and you have the option of using the system's gyroscope for it. The predator sections are included and are handled fairly well. Detective Mode's scanning mechanic is very similar to Metroid Prime (which the developers of Blackgate worked on in the past). You can choose to explore the different subsections of the prison in whatever order you want, and supposedly you get different endings based on this. So far the one gripe I have with is the story. It's fairly light. Basically just some banter between the characters and objectives to point you in the right direction. The opening sequence, for example, is incredibly low key compared to the console games. Continuity from the console game (which it takes place after) is kept to a bare minimum so far (the creators said that the game won't spoil the storyline) but characters who appear in Origins as well as the first two Arkham games appear here. Also if you have Blackgate on Vita and Origins on Ps3 you can unlock a Beware the Batman skin!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: laughing paradox on October 30, 2013, 06:02:12 PM
I've been playing the game yesterday and I like it. It's a lot like Arkham City, which I expected, but I actually prefer the storyline to Origins more.

I've only fought a few foes so far, but it seems like I have a lot of things to do. I loved fighting Electrocutioner!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Shogunn2517 on November 01, 2013, 05:18:17 PM
Okay so I've been playing this game pretty much since Thursday night/Friday morning and in my opinion, despite some game design gripes, not only is this my favorite Arkham game, but it might be my favorite free roam games and video games period.

So to talk about some of the complaints I've heard, they've been mentioned, there are some bugs.  I've come across some pretty epic ones.  All I've done is just restart from the last checkpoint the two or three times it happened.  It never killed my enjoyment a bit.  But a lot of games have glitches.  Some ALOT worse than others(looking dead at you Fight Night Champion).  Other complaints I heard most from the review community, that this is too repetitive and too much like Arkham City.  I completely disagree.  Not only can you say other sequels like Call of Duty is like every other Call of Duty games.  Skyrim ain't that much of a departure from Oblivion.  More than 3 GTA games use the exact same map as other GTA games, but was GTA 5 or GTA 4 repetitive when all people did is just go around steal cars and beat up hookers?  No because the game was much more than that.

Just the same, Arkham Origins is not some knock off or expansion of Arkham City.  First of all it needs to be said, the story for AO is much better and sensible than AC.  I am still not sure who the main villain of AC is.  Or why in the world it would make sense to make half your city a prison.  AO's storyline sounds MORE like a Batman story that I'd read in the comics or saw on TAS.  Eight assassins hired to kill Batman.  Sounds great.  The acting was great.  The two they had for Joker and Batman were as convincing as the originals.  Even the music/score was noticable and a good touch.

As far as the gameplay goes, as enjoyable as any other Arkham game, but its been stepped up.  Not only are there more enemy types like martial artist, armored enforcers and venom users, but there are more ways to fight with gadgets like shock gloves and remote grapple.  Outside of the story, which is good, the side missions and add ons keep you playing.  You have actual super villains you fight outside of the story.  There are random crimes Batman can encounter.  And finally crime scenes and detective work for (shockingly) THE WORLD'S GREATEST DETECTIVE.  All of these make me FEEL like I'm actually Batman.   They also added a multiplayer, which isn't some cheap gimmie.  It's pretty inventive.  It's multiplayer fit for Batman.

The look of the game is wonderful.  People complain that Gotham City is unpopulated.  Well it's midnight during a snow storm and a prison breakout with a curfew, so it make sense.  Gotham City looks good and detailed.  I like visiting familiar locations like the courthouse, the mall and Crime Alley.  The details are nice, like work and cleaning schedules, flyers for New Years parties and even the Batsuit, though it looks too much like Iron Man than Batman, it looks close to TDK and TDKR something I and a lot of fans want to see.  Oh and did I mention THE BATCAVE!  Right now, I've finished the story and now I'm going after the Riddler/Enigma trophies which are every bit of a challenge and don't seem as random and frivolous as AC was.  The Boss Battles were fun, Deathstroke was intense.  Speaking of which, I'm glad they are seeminly pulling from the overall DC universe, which is a nice touch. 

My complaints are rather minor.  Wish they had more playable characters.  AC had two out the box and two more not long after.  Here you might be able to use Deathstroke if you buy him.  I know Robin is in the multiplyer but not like he was in AC.  Also, a few of the boss battles, not mentioning her name, was waaaaaaay more easier than it should have been.  But by far my BIGGEST complaint, which almost made me trade the game in was no flashing of BAM, WHOP and ZOINK when you wear the 1960s costume.(kidding)(kinda).

Overall, this is the game I wanted when I first got a super hero free roam experience back with Spider Man 2.  Crimes, villain specific thugs, a FULL Gotham City with a BATCAVE, and the kind of stuff that make you feel like Batman. 

I'm really enjoying this game and highly recommend to anyone who is a Batman fan, fan of the series or gamers that just want to beat up bad guys.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on November 01, 2013, 06:54:21 PM
That's very interesting Shogunn.  You've given me something to think about.  I really wish they had costumes that you could just unlock with a code these days.  :(  I have no problem paying for more adventures or levels, but putting my hero in a design I like shouldn't cost me more money.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on November 01, 2013, 10:47:09 PM
Ok, managed to play this for couple of hours. Some things I liked a lot.

-Maybe its a small thing for some but its something I love. The way Batman moves during combat is much rougher than AA and AC which makes sense since its in his early carrier. Batman is constantly in fighting stance during combat, you cannot stand still like before. Makes so much sense that Bats here is not as confident as in previous 2 entries. Love it!
-Boss fights are very direct. Really liked the one with Deathstroke.
-Can't comment fully on the story since I haven't finished the game yet, but me likes it a lot. There is one small moment in the game that was really touching
Spoiler
In the middle of free roaming and running the missions, Alfred talks to you via headset and says "Its midnight, sir. I wanted to wish you a merry christmas" and Batman says "you too" and continues what he does.

Some things I didn't like.

-There are quite a few bugs, some pretty big ones. PC version only has a massive bug where you can only get one of the enigma boxes using a glitch since its not obtainable by normal means.
-I do like Arkham games and will continue buying them, but if I'm being honest the game feels a lot like Arkham City 2.0. Not a bad thing, but I wish they didn't play it this safe. Its not as bas as CoD games. But it doesn't improve upon AC as much as AC expanded the AA formula.
-Shock gloves are a bit overpowered IMO.
-One story moment I was not a fan of
Spoiler
Revelation that Joker is the big bad behind the whole thing and is posing as Black Mask

Overall, if u liked AA and AC, u will like AO too. It deffinitely gets a recommendation. I like it better than AA but not as much as I liked AC.


Quote from: BentonGrey on November 01, 2013, 06:54:21 PM
I have no problem paying for more adventures or levels, but putting my hero in a design I like shouldn't cost me more money.

Depending on which costume you want some of them are unlockable :)
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2013/10/28/how-to-unlock-all-batman-arkham-origins-costumes.htm
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on November 02, 2013, 12:00:25 AM
Quote from: BentonGrey on November 01, 2013, 06:54:21 PM
That's very interesting Shogunn.  You've given me something to think about.  I really wish they had costumes that you could just unlock with a code these days.  :(  I have no problem paying for more adventures or levels, but putting my hero in a design I like shouldn't cost me more money.

While several of the costumes are DLC only, a majority seem to be unlocked by completing aspects of the game (TDK, for instance, is unlocked by mastering combat, predator, crime scene investigations, and movement). Anything that's pre-order will be available later, and most of those I'm sure will be coupled with additional levels.

I'm about 54% done with story mode, and I agree with Shogun... this game is FAR stronger overall than AC, the world is twice as big (AC ended up being just a touch cramped) and the story is faaaar better. Any complaints about the game being too similar are asenine, because the gameplay was well done already, and the tweeks they've made (such as the detective mode) really bring that out. I was iffy about the new designs for Batman and Joker, but both look much better ingame and I'm even thinking of buying the Joker figure despite my love for the AA design.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Shogunn2517 on November 02, 2013, 02:10:03 AM
Quote from: bat1987 on November 01, 2013, 10:47:09 PM
Ok, managed to play this for couple of hours. Some things I liked a lot.

-Maybe its a small thing for some but its something I love. The way Batman moves during combat is much rougher than AA and AC which makes sense since its in his early carrier. Batman is constantly in fighting stance during combat, you cannot stand still like before. Makes so much sense that Bats here is not as confident as in previous 2 entries. Love it!
-Boss fights are very direct. Really liked the one with Deathstroke.
-Can't comment fully on the story since I haven't finished the game yet, but me likes it a lot. There is one small moment in the game that was really touching
Spoiler
In the middle of free roaming and running the missions, Alfred talks to you via headset and says "Its midnight, sir. I wanted to wish you a merry christmas" and Batman says "you too" and continues what he does.

Some things I didn't like.

-There are quite a few bugs, some pretty big ones. PC version only has a massive bug where you can only get one of the enigma boxes using a glitch since its not obtainable by normal means.
-I do like Arkham games and will continue buying them, but if I'm being honest the game feels a lot like Arkham City 2.0. Not a bad thing, but I wish they didn't play it this safe. Its not as bas as CoD games. But it doesn't improve upon AC as much as AC expanded the AA formula.
-Shock gloves are a bit overpowered IMO.
-One story moment I was not a fan of
Spoiler
Revelation that Joker is the big bad behind the whole thing and is posing as Black Mask

Overall, if u liked AA and AC, u will like AO too. It deffinitely gets a recommendation. I like it better than AA but not as much as I liked AC.


Quote from: BentonGrey on November 01, 2013, 06:54:21 PM
I have no problem paying for more adventures or levels, but putting my hero in a design I like shouldn't cost me more money.

Depending on which costume you want some of them are unlockable :)
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2013/10/28/how-to-unlock-all-batman-arkham-origins-costumes.htm


Bats,

Not sure how far you've gotten in the story, but like I said, the writing AND acting are solid and actually pretty moving, if I may say so.

But I do disagree about the AC2.0.  It's much more.  AC didn't have the kind of detective work that AO has.  AC was cut off in a weird prison city.  AC didn't have a Batcave.  It just seems a lot more expansive in every way.  As far as the Shock Gloves go, I see them very much like Batman's electric knuckler he used throughout the Justice League.  However they still come with certain strategies.  You don't HAVE to use them, but you still have to turn them on and risk getting hit or losing your combo.  But they don't even make him stronger, it just ables him to hit special weapons and enemies.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on November 02, 2013, 04:01:51 AM
Yeah, you can unlock the costume you want by playing most of the way through the game with one you don't really care for.  Bah.  I always liked games like MUA where I could just enter a code and BAM, classic costumes for everyone for the entire game!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Talavar on November 02, 2013, 04:22:08 AM
It's a great game, but even the Xbox 360 version has some show-stopping bugs.  I had to restart from about halfway through after my Batman fell out of a level into endless grey space, and the auto-save saved there.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on November 03, 2013, 08:07:53 AM
sounds like a glitch I had in Arkham City... was going for the riddler dive thing, accidentally went straight through the world... got my 25 meters pretty quick that way.

I beat the game earlier today (I've got some cleanup, like the escaped inmates thing, but I beat the main sidequest so I'm in no rush for that busiwork) and I'm making my way through Blackgate now... I'm with Shogun for the most part, the game is far more than AC 2.0 (The Firefly Boss fight alone is FAR more epic than anything in AC). You can tell portions of it were very rushed, and it is far buggier game than AC (though not nearly as bad as some of the Spiderman games have been), but if you're in it purely for the story, this game blows the previous games out of the water.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on November 05, 2013, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: Shogunn2517 on November 02, 2013, 02:10:03 AM
But they don't even make him stronger, it just ables him to hit special weapons and enemies.

Which is one of the strongest aspects of Arkham games combat, using different tactics for different opponents. Shock gloves are basically "Hulk SMASH" mode. They are cool to use and he has used them in comics and other media but I find them to be overpowered, that's all :)

Won't be able to play for some time due to rl but one thing I can say for sure, I do prefer the story and boss fights here compared to AA and AC. Boss fights were one of the weakest aspects of AA, they improved it in AC, but this game takes it to the next level.

Oh and the segment
Spoiler
where you play as The Joker was phenomenal

I might be in minority here, but I like that they force you to play with the default suit on your first playthrough. Because the suit as in previous games gets damaged over time, and at the end you can really tell that he went through hell. Some of the classic suits look way out of place too.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Talavar on November 05, 2013, 08:04:45 PM
Re: the damaged suit look - by the end of the night, I don't think my cape should have been capable of gliding any more.  It was basically a set of ribbons worn from Batman's shoulders.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Epimethee on November 06, 2013, 04:58:44 AM
For those who missed the first two games, they're available this week on Steam via the Humble Bundle, along with LOTR, FEAR 2 & 3 and Scribblenaut. You set the price!

https://www.humblebundle.com/
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on November 20, 2013, 01:55:28 AM
So this is way overdue, but I've finished Arkham Origins, and I'm happy to say it is another great Batman game!
To be honest I think it was actually my least favorite of the three. The games go in chronological order with Asylum being my favorite, then City, then Origins. AA just felt very focused, and AC's story engaged me more. But really this is all a matter of degrees, these are all amazing games.

More specific details:
Spoiler

The biggest improvement to this game to me was the boss fights, easily the best in the series. The fights with Bane really stood out for me. They just felt so brutal, I really wondered how Batman was getting back up.

The leadup to the Copperhead fight was really creepy, I really enjoyed that.

Ko'ing Electrocutioner in one hit made burst into laughter.

The other nice addition was the new detective sequences. Made you feel even more like Batman. For the future I'd like to see them be less straight forward, more player directed. Maybe something like LA Noire.

Shock gauntlets were so vey fun...and so very overpowered. Basically click in sticks to curb stomp.

I found the Joker sequence when he was first captured very jarring. It was like for 60% of this game it was all about Batman and then all of a sudden let's do some serious focus on the Joker. It was a odd choice the way they handled it. Playing as him was fun though.

The interaction between Alfred and Bruce was some of the strongest elements of the game. Especially the scene where Bruce finds Alfred after Bane's attack.

Speaking of Bane's attack, I was disappointed you didn't get to fight him or his men in the Manor or Cave. That could have been epic.

I played a few matches of the mutliplayer. I'm not really a big MP guy but it seemed gun. A decent addition to the game.

One thing I didn't like was how they revealed all eight assassins right near the beginning of the story. It would have been better if each was a surprise as they appeared. Granted the pre-release press revealed them all anyway, but the story still would have worked better.

I found the combat harder in this game, but I think it was just because most of the tougher enemy types are in the game from the beginning.

I like the Origins Bat suit better than the previous one. I think it's mostly the ears, I prefer shorter bat ears.

Pretty cool set of  villains, personal highlights were Shiva and Firefly.

In the ending stinger we have a clear reference to the Suicide Squad, and I understand the portable game is filled with references to that comic. So I think we can expect a Suicide Squad game coming up. That should be pretty cool, but I'm wondering if it will be stand alone or another Batman game.

I miss riddles from the first two games. They were always fun to solve.

I'm hoping this isn't the last Arkham-style Batman game we see.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on November 20, 2013, 02:54:08 AM
Quote from: Podmark on November 20, 2013, 01:55:28 AM
I'm hoping this isn't the last Arkham-style Batman game we see.

WB has basically come out saying they'd like the Arkham series to reach a point where they're putting out Arkham games once a year. Rumor is that Rocksteady has already been working on another Arkham game (the one Kevin Conroy leaked) and it's very likely they'll announce it come december during one of their big game conventions. 

As to my opinions on AO, now that the dust has settled... I'd put it at my second favorite. It's still better than Asylum, but despite being a better game from a technical standpoint I think I will be replaying City more in the long term.

Spoiler
See, AO's biggest problem isn't the gameplay or the myriad of glitches: Most of the glitches are patched, and I think the game is much improved overall. The story is much more engaging, the segments with Joker, while jarring, are a nice addition, and the detective mode is above and beyond what we've seen up to this point. The boss battles, particularly the one with Firefly, were just epic. Anyone even remotely interested in this series needs to give it at least one complete playthrough.

The problem, in my mind, is how much replay value the game has. I still play through Asylum and City every six months or so. But Origins... I dunno. Sure, I'll probably be turning on the multiplayer quite a bit (If only to unlock costumes), but the story mode just doesn't pack the same punch on a second playthrough. Half the fun of playthroughs on Asylum and City is tracking down all the Riddler trophies and solving his puzzles, but the watered down "Enigma" in Arkham Origins is so telegraphed that it's hardly worth bothering on a second play through. Additionally, City has so many easter eggs and such attention to detail that even after playing through my third or fourth game I was still discovering more references to the series or to the comics. But the only Easter Eggs I see in Origins are the leftovers from the overworld of Arkham City.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on November 20, 2013, 04:25:13 AM
Yeah I'd heard rumors about the next and possibly regular Batman games, nothing concrete yet but I'm sure hoping for more.

The one impression I got while playing through AO was that WB Montreal is that they seemed most concerned with ensuring they could replicate the Arkham style. And they did. If they're given another game they'll probably even better. I get a Call of Duty devs Treyarch/Infinity Ward vibe from this setup. I'd imagine that's what WB is really hoping to build.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on November 20, 2013, 08:00:10 AM
From what I've read up on it, while Origins might have sold poorer than Arkham City, it started out as being about even with Asylum (and I suspect that will pick up closer to december) which sold close to 2 million copies in the first 3 weeks. That's a decent success, and probably what they should have expected given the involvement of a relatively new studio.

Arkham Origins would have had to SEVERELY hurt the franchise for there to NOT be another game, and I think WB would just go back to Rocksteady if that was the case.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on November 21, 2013, 01:25:54 AM
That's good. I'd expect Origins cost to make was lower than City so the profit ratio should be good. I love these games so hoping for more.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on November 23, 2013, 03:13:14 PM
Finished the game a while ago, never got around to post additional impressions here ^_^

A lot of the stuff I said before stands.

Most of the boss fights I loved
Spoiler

-Killer Croc was a standard introductory boss but I liked it.
-Deathstroke was a really cool counter fest.
-Copperhead was intriguing, if a bit too easy.
-Deadshot fight I like better than the one in City. The whole richochet thing was cool
-Loved the first fight with Bane. Exactly how I imagine Bane and Bats fight
-Lady Shiva fight was a bit of a letdown tbh
-Electrocutioner was rlly funny, didn't see it coming :D
-Firefly was a blast!

-Alfred/Bruce parts are really strong, so are the ones with Joker.
-Batsuit is really cool. Eventhough I prefer shorter ears on the cowl, I still like the City/Asylum suit more.
-My complaint about it being City 2.0 still stands. Really wish they introduced something more than some enemy types.
-I encountered a lot of bugs on my playthrough. More than any game I played recently.

Regardless of any complaints I enjoyed the experience and can't wait for the next one. :thumbup:

Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: bat1987 on December 02, 2013, 06:53:40 PM
New DLC hits tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4MJ4Qm7Xj8

Really has Batman Begins vibe to it.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Podmark on December 03, 2013, 01:53:43 AM
Cool, thanks for the heads up.
And yeah it does have that vibe.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on December 03, 2013, 02:09:04 AM
In spite of the cool trailer, it's just skins and challenge maps, so I'm not interested at all.  For those who like those kinds of things, it looks fun.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on December 03, 2013, 02:28:00 AM
Ture (though I expect the challenge maps will have short cutscenes just as the Black Mask ones did in AC) but there IS a story DLC, like Harley Quinn's revenge, in the pipeline. Rumor is that it's related to Robin, but the quote is pretty vague:

Quote"It is in line with our angle of the origins – not necessarily of characters, but of key relationships. It is a DLC that will focus on one of the most key relationships in Batman canon."
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on December 03, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
Yeah, I'm aware of that and will almost certainly grab it.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Tomato on January 02, 2014, 09:13:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BeQViEp_bc

-Freeze.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: detourne_me on January 02, 2014, 09:31:38 AM
glad i'm waiting for a GOTY version.  already have both normal and GOTY versions of asylum and city on steam
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on January 03, 2014, 11:42:28 PM
Very cool.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on January 03, 2014, 11:57:03 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on January 03, 2014, 11:42:28 PM
Very cool.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on January 04, 2014, 02:13:42 AM
Ahh!  Ha, I did not intend for that to be a pun!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: murs47 on January 15, 2014, 06:07:58 PM
So I finally got this. While cool, I get dizzy as all heck and can't play for more than 10 minutes. :(

*plays Chess-3D*

I must be getting old now. Damn kids with your rock-n-roll and fast paced games, GET OFF MY LAWN!
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: BentonGrey on February 16, 2014, 06:32:30 PM
You tell those little punks, Murs! 

*Shakes fist in support*
Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Midnite on February 26, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
Batman: Arkham Origins - DLC "Cold, Cold Heart" Teaser Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUbNNtupBDg)

Title: Re: Batman: Arkham Origins
Post by: Silver Shocker on November 03, 2016, 08:51:02 AM
 So heads up the multiplayer servers for this game are shutting down Dec. 4.  (http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Official-Announcements/Batman-Arkham-Origins-Online-Services/m-p/1323449#U1323449)

I tried out the mp very briefly on a family member's copy and it seemed alright. I'm playing it a lot more now since this'll be my last chance and I'm actually quite enjoying it, though getting into a game is not as frequent as I'd like. I'm pretty terrible as Batman and Robin in it though.