(http://stkp.com/cnoffices.jpg)
leaked (thanks to this image of the CN offices) and confirmed elsewhere (sorry lost link). Due out next year.
http://io9.com/yes-a-new-jla-cartoon-is-definitely-on-its-way-1734930412
My Speculation as to who's who on the poster...
Top Row: Superman, Wonder Woman (with sword & shield), Batman(not sure but I think I see points on the head), Icon (not sure, but the symbol on the chest looks right, could be Martian Manhunter though), unknown
Middle Row: Zatanna, Firestorm, unknown ( maybe John Stewart Green Lantern or a really beefy Flash), Doctor Light (female version, or possibly Batgirl or Bat Woman), unknown
Bottom Row: Hawkwoman (or possibly Hawkman, though seems too thin for that), Captain Marvel (if that's the nu52 hood and a lightning bolt on his chest)
thoughts/speculations?
Pretty cool. I'm happy there's a new Justice League cartoon coming out. I'm hoping it's good. I'm not really expecting it to be as good as Justice League/JLU but if it's connected to Young Justice it very easily could be.
I read a while back that the animated movie JLA Adventures: Trapped in Time was meant to be a pilot for a potential tv series. This could be derived from those plans.
I'll need more information on who's writing it, who the voice cast will be, and what the characters look like. Then I'll have a better idea what to think of it.
Let's hope it's good! There's been a real drop off of quality superhero animation the last few years.
JUSTICE LEAGUE ACTION: KEVIN CONROY AND MARK HAMILL STARRING IN NEW ANIMATED SERIES (http://ca.ign.com/articles/2016/01/29/new-justice-league-animated-series-featuring-kevin-conroy-and-mark-hamill)
Wow, that is a very, very mixed bag in a very short article.
Someone other than Clancy Brown playing Lex, the role he defined? Booooo!
Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill back in the roles they defined? Yaaaaay!
Weird, childish looking animation style? Boo...ish.
Some of the Timmverse crew are involved? Yay!
Wonder Woman with a sword? Boo!
A wide range of characters implied? Yay!
Animated versions of the incredibly stupid looking trunks-less designs for Bats and Supes? Boo!!
Eleven minute episodes? Whaaaa? And Booo! That gives them no time to actually tell stories. It sounds like it's going to be an extension of the shorts they've been putting out recently.
It's been a while since I read anything that left me with such mixed emotions. Why does WB hate unalloyed quality?
I refuse to judge animation style until I see it in action.
- I was dubious of the original Batman:TAS character designs until I saw it with the backgrounds and animation. Then I thought it was the most amazing thing I ever saw.
- I initially HATED the character designs for Avengers:EMH until I saw an episode.
Therefor, until I see them moving, I think it's a little too early to judge.
Regarding the 11 minute episodes: that is a bit more troubling, though not a deal breaker. Look at Steven Universe.
GG, I don't disagree, hence my "Boo...ish," which I meant to indicate I wasn't really sure what to think about it. The stylized animation itself doesn't really bother me as much as the really childish looking faces, but I could easily change my mind once I see it in action.
I'm not familiar with Steven Universe.
Quote from: BentonGrey on January 29, 2016, 09:33:59 PM
I'm not familiar with Steven Universe.
You should go fix that.
In all seriousness though, this looks good to me. Yeah, we've got some n52 spillover, but honestly... If we MUST have trunkless superman, the design they've got is easily the best I've seen in terms of color balance. I've seen enough fantastic shows done in cartoony art styles (spectacular spiderman) that the younger looking designs don't bother me.
I'm perfectly willing to have my mind changed on the animation style, and as I've said on previous shows (JLU, EMH, etc.), animation style, provided the animation itself is good, is probably the least important aspect of a show for me.
What are your thoughts on the other revelations, 'Mato?
I'm trying to keep myself in the "wait and see" camp for the time being. The 11min episodes is, admittedly, a bit troubling, but as GG points out there are several shows out there already that take the 11 minute formula and are still able to give us amazing stories and character development (Steven Universe being the obvious one to point to). As for the casting... I don't know the VA playing Lex Luthor offhand, but I'm perfectly fine with Bader as Booster Gold. He always felt like a sort of off-brand hero during his run on BatB, so I feel like that works for Booster Gold.
Beyond that... there's not much else to talk about. I like the designs overall, especially the ones in the background of the poster, and there's enough overall talent I'm willing to give it a shot.
Well, the description also seems to hint at a lack of story or purpose:
QuoteNo need to wait for the good stuff to start, each eleven-minute episode jumps in with lightning-paced action and heroics.
I don't have a problemw ith Bader palying Booster, mostly because I just don't care about Booster all that much, but he strikes me as a poor fit for the character. Booster's voice should be more...bright, I think.
Anyway, I'll wait and see, but like I said, this announcement seems like a very mixed bag.
While Conroy and Hamill coming back is heartening, the rest does not give me confidence. I'd rather they didn't come back if the rest isn't going to live up to their efforts and skill. 11 minute snippets of fighting, without character building or story development?
Sounds like something perfect for a three year old minion. <_<
It's going to be a mixed bag because they are doing 11 min shorts, but the crew behind the show are from Batman:TAS, Green Lantern:TAS, and some other serious DC shows. I believe that DC is testing the waters to see which characters are popular and if the people like them enough, they will be transfer over to either TV or be put in the DCMU (DC Movie Universe). Each show will have the main 3, but a rotating heroes each episode. I expect the Manhunter to be popular thanks to him being on Super Girl
11 minutes isn't a deal breaker for me. AS long as its not like Teen Titans go, it should be alright.
One plus is that we will get two shorts per half hour, just like CN does with shows like Robot Chicken and TTG.
I just wish they-CN-would let Dini and co do a show for Adult swim. It would probably be as successful as Venture Brothers or Rock and Morty is.
(not in that same style-just as successful.)
jeff
While the animation isn't what I'd choose, I definitely will wait to see it in action. It looks like Spectacular Spider-Man which is the best Marvel cartoon of the century, not in spite of but in large part because of how good the animation was. I think they used the style to get away with a ton of ultra-violent fight scenes that were an absolute joy to watch. I bet this will be sweet.
I thought I remembered there being a thread about this show...
Anyway... link with character pics and less of a silhouette.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Batpedia/status/739581564003201026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a trailer.
And honestly, I REALLY like what I'm seeing. Batman smiles even! And Space Cabbie*!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pctd-ThJDOo
(*-who the heck is Space Cabbie???????? All I know is he's in the trailer)
PS: Wheee post 11,111!
Quote from: Glitch Girl on July 22, 2016, 01:46:40 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a trailer.
And honestly, I REALLY like what I'm seeing. Batman smiles even! And Space Cabbie*!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pctd-ThJDOo
(*-who the heck is Space Cabbie???????? All I know is he's in the trailer)
PS: Wheee post 11,111!
[Sigh] Space Cabbie, like Kris KL99, Star Rovers, Space Museum, Star Hawkins & Ilda, and Knights of the Galaxy, is a long-lost SF adventure character from 1950s DC. I was reading reprints of them in the 60s and 70s.
I was mostly kidding about the Space Cabbie thing, but you have to admit, they dug deep for that one.
When they get to Darwin Jones you will know they have hit the bottom. Not that he's bad, it's just that he is that obscure.
It does look interesting. Look at all the characters...
"Go Superman" :lol:
I contend that Brother Power is more obscure.
And I knew who Space Cabbie was, and most of the others you mentioned. One of our local cable channels (I think) back in the late 70's - early 80's would show classic comics narrated by someone, which is how I got my first look at all of those characters, as well as Ultraa, Sugar & Spike, and the first few issues of Green Lantern (Hal). It was pretty awesome, and I always looked forward to it but couldn't really find it consistently.
Okay...I've been curious about this, but we've had so little info, I wasn't sure what to think. JLU is one of my favorite shows of all time, and this is, of course, my favorite comic universe...so, there's a lot riding on this one for me. I'd gladly sacrifice a digit to bring JLU back, and though this isn't that, I have to say, it does look good. The art style looks good in action, and the animation is excellent. I don't care for some of the character designs, but for the most part, they aren't bad. I HATE the lack of trunks. It looks even worse in animation. Wonder Woman's hair is a bit odd, and Brainiac's head is too goofy. Still, not bad overall.
I'm thrilled to hear Batman back as Batman. And was that Hamill as the Joker? I also love the range of characters. Did I see Hawkman, or was that just a random Thanagarian? I wonder.
Actually, it looks rather like a more straightforward, JLA centered version of Batman: Brave and Bold, which I would be entirely okay with.
No Aquaman. I won't rest easy until I see the Sea King. If they make another JLA show without him as a major character...it's not like they're trying to push him in their cinematic universe or anything. :P
I think that was Hawkman. :) And Stargirl.And Lobo. <_< I think I saw Swamp Thing there for a moment.
Cross-Media promotion seems to be a thing,so we get Firestorm,Vixen and Green Arrow(he was in an earlier teaser IIRC). Oddly,Flash isn't around.
Yes,Kevin Conroy and Mark Hammil reprise their roles.
At least they remembered Martian Manhunter exists.Unlike a movie universe that will go unnamed.
Some additional voice casting:
Yes it's both Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil back as Bats and the Joker. Also: James Woods as Lex Luthor, Diedrich Bader as Booster Gold, Hannibal Buress is Mister Terrific, P. J. Byrne (aka: Bolin from Legend of Korra) as Firestorm, Patton Oswalt is Space Cabbie, Ken Jeong is Toyman, and Dana Snyder (Master Shake) is Plastic Man.
Quote from: Panther_Gunn on July 22, 2016, 05:16:28 AM
I contend that Brother Power is more obscure.
And I knew who Space Cabbie was, and most of the others you mentioned. One of our local cable channels (I think) back in the late 70's - early 80's would show classic comics narrated by someone, which is how I got my first look at all of those characters, as well as Ultraa, Sugar & Spike, and the first few issues of Green Lantern (Hal). It was pretty awesome, and I always looked forward to it but couldn't really find it consistently.
True, Darwin Jones did have more than two adventures, but The Geek had his own two-issue series. I know, I had them.
Sugar and Spike, Fox and Crow, Jerry Lewis, Bob Hope... Need to make Super-Hip one day.... and Stanley's Monster...
Yeah, I got a glimpse of Swamp Thing and Lobo. The way Brave and Bold wove assorted characters into the "whole" of the series was one thing I enjoyed.
Hrm...apparently this is an 11 minute "action" series. I don't care for that at all. I prefer some actual plot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8TSKZ3J_4I
I wouldnt be surprised if they expanded into more plot once the audience is tuning in week after week.
All in all though im down for this.
I hope so, Doc.
Quote from: docdelorean88 on July 25, 2016, 04:26:10 AM
I wouldnt be surprised if they expanded into more plot once the audience is tuning in week after week.
Exactly. And besides Benton, this isn't the first 11 minute show that's managed to have a good ongoing story. Just look at Steven Universe. (Which, if you haven't already done Benton, you really should, seriously. It's probably one of the best shows on television right now, and while it takes a while to get going, it really pays off once you get into it. If you're looking for plot, (and some heavy character development,) look no further than SU.)
More clips released. Getting a very Brave&Bold vibe from this. Not crazy about Flash's new voice but liking most of the rest.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/new-justice-league-action-clips-show-superman-batman-1788818642
also from another article (http://comicsalliance.com/justice-league-action-clips/?trackback=tsmclip):
QuoteTeen Titans Go! alum Sam Register will act as the show's executive producer, along with Justice League and Batman Beyond vet Butch Lukic, Batman: The Animated Series' Alan Burnett and Green Lantern: The Animated Series vet Jim Krieg as producers.
So, saw the first 4 episodes that act as the pilot...
The show is squarely aimed at the younger crowd. Those of you without kids may not like it, though it's not as randomly silly as Teen Titans Go. Characterization is much more simplified all the way around as are the plots. Animation is mostly solid except for the opening of the 2nd episode where it seemed unusually choppy with a low frame rate or something. humor was a bit hit or miss with me, as was characterization: while I liked Martian Manhunter and Booster, Constantine was utterly cringeworthy (and not Matt Ryan). Writing between the four episodes was also uneven, the 4th being the weakest of the lot (also I noted that the 1st & last episodes were written by the same person, and were also my least favorites of the bunch). Depending on who was writing it, Batman was either barely competent or closer to the Dark Knight Detective. Some more consistency would be nice.
Overall, I think young kids will like it, but production value is good, it may not click with older audiences.
And if you like Constantine at all, avoid that episode 4.
Well, that's rather disappointing, but not terribly surprising.
Completely forgot about this show.
Just saw it show up on SB and like GG just watched the first 4 episodes before bed and I gotta say, I think my opinion may differ slightly, but it might be a little more positive. Possibly.
Spoiler
The first four episodes were one arch, Black Adam kicked Shazam(Wizard) out of the Rock of Eternity and let loose some Djin's on Earth. First Episode was Batman helping the Wizard getting back to the Rock, freeing Billy Batson so that Captain Marvel and he can kick out Black Adam. Second Episode was Superman and Wonder Woman fighting a Djin who absorbed the Parasite's powers. Third was Batman and Green Arrow going after a Djin before having a few other leaguers join in. 4th was with Constantine, Swamp Thing, Plastic Man joining the others for a final showdown. Yes, I completely agree with GG that this was geared towards kids and yes not nearly as slapstick silly as TTG, but the animation style seemed rather basic. The writing and acting lacked maturity. But what struck me was the action, which was pretty solid. Very solid IMO. Saw little in the first episode, but by the second, we saw Superman and Wonder Woman using their powers to the full extent, which was also seen in the third when they had fighting so cataclysmic to destroy the Hall of Justice. they weren't pulling any punches with this show. It wasn't just all speed lines and action stills. The fights had pretty good(not great great, but good) choreography. It was good to hear Conroy as Batman. Superman sounded remarkably similar to Daly. Wonder Woman was different but didn't sound bad. The others were okay as well(other than the action dialogue itself, which was somewhat bothersome(looking at you Green Arrow)). Overall, the lineup of characters seen though was pretty cool. Some I haven't seen animated or televised in a while. Swamp Thing, Plastic Man. But also having Green Arrow, along with Superman, Wonder Woman, Jonn, Booster, Cyborg and Hal Jordan showed up at the end as well. I'm sure there are and will be others, but from the first episode, not a bad line up. I do hope that each episode continues with a 2-3 man team up model they seemed to have going and keep the focus small. It sounds like it might be likely.
Overall, I watched. I don't have any kids. I will finish the season. But it was pretty entertaining, if it was just for the action and characters packed into the show. Just my impressions, but I don't think checking out the first 4 episodes is a bad idea.
Okay, watched a few more episodes and changed my mind.
Spoiler
It's way more kid-friendly than I thought. The violence in it though, isn't all "cartoon violence", though it has it's moments.
Yeah...it's got its charming moments, and the better voice actor quality is something....but the writing is just mediocre at best from the episodes I've caught. It's fine, but the pathos and glory of the original series is just absent.
I've been watching it. Canada (along with the U.K. and Poland) airs some of the episodes earlier than the U.S., so it's possible I've seen some episodes that others here haven't (such as "Repulse") It's ok, not great, certainly not as rich and satisfying as Justice League Unlimited, but it's a decent distraction and in Canada it airs alongside several other superhero cartoons so for me it's basically one part of a marathon. The voice acting for the characters is pretty good (especially Conroy as Batman and Hamill as Joker, and I agree that Superman sounds similar to Tim Daily) And the fight scenes are pretty good. The opening 4 episodes did indeed have continuity and then after that it seems to have become just done-in-ones.
One notable complaint I have is James Woods as Luthor. Ironically, I said I was expecting him to be good in the role when the cast was announced. He was good as Owlman in JL: Crisis on Two Earths, but here, as Luthor, he sounds a little too nasally/lisp-y and the acting isn't the greatest (he's also played a bit more comically than a lot of other great takes on the character). It definitely had me wishing Clancy Brown was doing it again.
Clancy Brown IS Lex Luthor, every bit as much as Conroy and Hamill are their respective characters.
I actually prefer the Young Justice version of Luthor to even the Justice League one, although it was more characterization than voice acting.
Beside, him coming back to voice Luthor would make it less likely for him to show up on The Flash again, and I really liked his version of General Eisling.
Considering Mark Hamill's in the show as Joker AND Swamp Thing, I kinda doubt it would be an issue.
Playing two different voices for the same show in the same studio is a bit different than playing a voice in one place and showing up in person somewhere in a different country. That being said, people can show up on multiple shows if their schedule allows. I just said it was less likely.
I think you misunderstood me. What I was getting at was the fact that Hamill also has appeared multiple times on The Flash in addition to the new Star Wars.
The House of Mystery
Spoiler
and Klarion the Witch Boy
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That was an unexpected treat.
I have to confess, I came back to this show, and I'm glad I did. While it still skews a little young, it has had some very entertaining episodes (like Superman taking out Steppenwolfe on a world with a red sun while Barda and Batman try to find him). And Superman trying to play bad cop to Batman's Good Cop ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaK3DZ3v-WM )
And then, there's this:
https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/923676517598601217
Yes they're ALL him :D
That is one of the greatest things I've ever seen! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, I wasn't surprised to see that posted here. That was the best thing to come out of the the whole show, (and indeed, as others have said, one of the greatest things I've ever seen). And it was only because of this that I learned that there's a whole bunch of web shorts in addition to the television show. What a great way to discover that!
On the topic of the show. It's alright, it is what it is. They seem to love Space Cabbie for some reason. But I quite liked that one with Booster Gold where he's an unsung hero who Batman will never respect. Very nice little adaptation of the excellent Geoff Johns run. Needs Skeets though, voiced by Billy West, of course.
SS, you're entirely right. It's occasionally good, mostly just mediocre. The Booster Gold episode was pretty great, but yes, there was a distinct lack of Skeets.