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Freedom Force Forums => Freedom Force Discussion => Topic started by: daglob on February 26, 2016, 04:24:43 AM

Title: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Update 4/17/19
Post by: daglob on February 26, 2016, 04:24:43 AM
Well, I started using the links at Dreamerzoid's site to look at stuff on the Wayback Machine, and one of the links led to Freedom Reborn Handbook. I've saved most of the pages, and started on the data pages. One of them was for a character called Outamyhead, and I was curious enough to click on the link to the skin... and it was there! Not only was I there, it was on a Wayback Machine saved NPI page with other links to other skins... and other NPI pages. I think I got them all (at least the ones that were still there), there were some 250 skins and/or meshes. I know I have some of them already (they were at NPI), and I haven't checked them all out, but I figure I have a couple that I didn't before.

All in all a very profitable waste of time.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 26, 2016, 04:49:50 AM
I wouldn't call it a waste of time...more like, preserving fine art from being lost to the ravages of time.  :D
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on February 26, 2016, 06:02:47 AM
The thing is, what do I do with them? I've found several, like RTTingle's avatar (two of them), that I don't think are anyplace else, and, since he isn't around these day, I can't really ask him if I can post it to a NPI Yahoo group. I'm still not sure what I've got.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: Outcast on February 26, 2016, 08:36:57 AM
Yeah i love looking back to those old ff sites with the way back machine. I even found some old tutorials, forums, the skindex, the freedom center...

I also stumbled upon Reepicheep's ff site. I think it had some meshes over there. But i thought the download links were gone though.

The thing is, what do I do with them? I've found several, like RTTingle's avatar (two of them), that I don't think are anyplace else, and, since he isn't around these day, I can't really ask him if I can post it to a NPI Yahoo group. I'm still not sure what I've got.

Well you can maybe post the links? So people could get a chance to download them too. I'd be very interested to see them as well. :)
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: BentonGrey on February 26, 2016, 03:10:03 PM
Wow!  Cool!  :D  I'm not sure what we can, should do with them, but I think we'll probably have to have a community discussion one of these days about what to do with the work of folks who have left the community.  It seems a shame to let it just fade into obscurity.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: OrWolvie1 on February 26, 2016, 03:49:40 PM
Way cool! I tend to agree with the idea of making them available to everyone. Having collected a massive amount of creative works of a lot of very talented people over the years, I, too, would hate to see it fade into obscurity (no pun intended :P)
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: spydermann93 on February 26, 2016, 05:18:46 PM
It seems a shame to let it just fade into obscurity.

Well, that explains how DaGlob found the links :P
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on February 26, 2016, 06:12:37 PM
The way I found it was by putting this link from Dreamerzoid's links page into The Wayback Machine:

http://mumas.com/FF/home.htm

...and looking for an earlier capture. I found one taken around 2004, and in the "O"s, there was a character called Outtamyhead. I clicked on the link (the image is gone) and was taken to a data page on the character. Just for fun, I clicked on the link to his skin, and was taken to an archived NPI page. This page looked totally different than any NPI page I had seen before. But a lot of the links work! So do a lot of the links on other pages you can reach from it.

I'm leaving the rest of it up to y'all.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on February 27, 2016, 07:06:00 PM
I've found that by changing the capture dates there are some characters that are not on other captures. You have probably figure this out by now, but this is for those who came in late...
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on February 27, 2016, 07:48:45 PM
On one of the older pages I found a link to The FF Underground. Sadly, I haven't found anything that works yet. I'm particularly unhappy about the Death's Jester page...
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: daglob on March 08, 2016, 08:23:26 PM
I've spent the last week or so slowly going through what I have. I have looked at fantastic hex/scopes and beautiful skins. It deepens my respect for those who came before me.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 09, 2016, 01:33:32 AM
I've spent the last week or so slowly going through what I have. I have looked at fantastic hex/scopes and beautiful skins. It deepens my respect for those who came before me.

No kidding...The magic that that the original Skinners did with Male_Basic/Male_Belt is just incredible. Not on my best day could that magic ever flow through me.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 09, 2016, 06:43:08 AM
On one of the older pages I found a link to The FF Underground. Sadly, I haven't found anything that works yet. I'm particularly unhappy about the Death's Jester page...

http://web.archive.org/web/20051204011117/http://ffunderground.com/

I GOT 2!!!
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: daglob on March 09, 2016, 03:41:26 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: docdelorean88 on March 09, 2016, 08:57:08 PM
Anyone recognise this work? http://timothylaskey.tripod.com/skins.html
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: spydermann93 on March 09, 2016, 09:55:05 PM
Definitely Revenant's work, that's for sure.

That guy was an AMAZING skinner. Wow!
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: daglob on March 09, 2016, 10:20:01 PM
Those are beautiful. I've got some of them.


https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Revenant_Skins/info

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/revenant_skins02/info
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: detourne_me on March 10, 2016, 12:15:59 AM
Oh man,  that got me thinking,  could anyone find an archive of Unfluffybunny.com?
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 10, 2016, 01:10:03 AM
Oh man,  that got me thinking,  could anyone find an archive of Unfluffybunny.com?

Kind of, but I don't think I've been able to get anything from here yet.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040820054429/http://www.freewebs.com/synff/index.htm
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 10, 2016, 02:08:10 AM
Sorry for the double post, but I thought Daglob would want to see this one.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041119183437/http://www.gammapatrol.com/content.php?ctype=skins&cid=28&qStart=1

The Mesh in question is actually by BIL, even though it's located where it is.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: daglob on March 10, 2016, 03:57:47 AM
Thanks. Maybe BIL still has a copy someplace.

Later:

Well, whaddaya know. He did have it.

I just can't seem to be able to get any keyframes to work on it.

Looking at it, it would make a nice space suit.

I wonderer where the original skins is...
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 10, 2016, 06:27:40 AM
I was able to grab the "Mike B7" Skin by Paradox for that Mesh, but I still don't have the Mesh  :P  , but I'm sure with some Skope-Fu, we could get some Keys to work on it.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: bearded on March 10, 2016, 06:31:04 AM
I don't think it was very good. Can I see the Mike B7 skin? I think I used taskmaster keyframes with it. I can look and see if I have any kf.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: BentonGrey on March 10, 2016, 02:20:00 PM
Ohh man, this just occured to me, but if someone wants to do modders a really big favor, they could take screenshots of picture indexes of maps from the old FXForce and FRP2 sites, if they could find them.  If I get some time soon I'll do it myself, but I CONSTANTLY lament the loss of those sites, as much for the loss of a visual record of maps as for the sites themselves!
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: daglob on March 10, 2016, 02:53:35 PM
I'm working on it. :)
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: daglob on March 21, 2016, 02:16:21 AM
I haven't found the links page yet, and his mesh isn't there, but a pic is...
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 21, 2016, 03:11:05 AM
I don't think it was very good. Can I see the Mike B7 skin? I think I used taskmaster keyframes with it. I can look and see if I have any kf.

Here's a Pic of the Mesh with Paradox's "MikeB7" Skin on it.

Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: OrWolvie1 on March 21, 2016, 03:01:43 PM
Anyone recognise this work? http://timothylaskey.tripod.com/skins.html

I do indeed recognize some of those, particularly the Iron Man skins. Or at least a version of them from Tommyboy's site. And yes, I do believe it was Ren's work. Fantastic. I would kill for alot of these, particularly the Cap, Supergirl and Scarlet Witch ones. man had amazing talent.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: daglob on March 21, 2016, 05:56:38 PM
Anyone recognise this work? http://timothylaskey.tripod.com/skins.html

I do indeed recognize some of those, particularly the Iron Man skins. Or at least a version of them from Tommyboy's site. And yes, I do believe it was Ren's work. Fantastic. I would kill for alot of these, particularly the Cap, Supergirl and Scarlet Witch ones. man had amazing talent.

I'm pretty sure I have Cap and Supergirl, and maybe Scarlet Witch. If so, where would you like them sent?
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 21, 2016, 07:48:13 PM
Anyone recognise this work? http://timothylaskey.tripod.com/skins.html

I do indeed recognize some of those, particularly the Iron Man skins. Or at least a version of them from Tommyboy's site. And yes, I do believe it was Ren's work. Fantastic. I would kill for alot of these, particularly the Cap, Supergirl and Scarlet Witch ones. man had amazing talent.

I'm pretty sure I have Cap and Supergirl, and maybe Scarlet Witch. If so, where would you like them sent?

My way please!?!?!  :D
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: daglob on March 21, 2016, 09:51:09 PM
On their way...
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: spydermann93 on March 21, 2016, 10:47:07 PM
Me seven!
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: OrWolvie1 on March 22, 2016, 01:42:18 AM
On their way...

Thank you so very much, Da Glob. I really do appreciate it!  :D
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: detourne_me on March 22, 2016, 10:17:23 AM
May I be added to the Revenant Mailing list?
I'll take a look through my files and see hwat I have to offer, that's not availabvlle in the yahoo groups.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: Deaths Jester on March 25, 2016, 12:23:52 AM
FF Underground? Unfluffybunny? FF Center? NPI? Are you guys intentionally trying to stalk all my old skin sites?!? O_o
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: daglob on March 25, 2016, 01:22:26 AM
Yeah, and so far we've only resurrected two skins...  :(
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: Deaths Jester on March 25, 2016, 07:50:47 PM
Have you tried Electric-Freedom yet? There are some of my other early ones there too.....

Damn, I got around.....
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: daglob on March 25, 2016, 08:27:24 PM
Yes, but no love from the archive.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
Post by: Panther_Gunn on March 25, 2016, 11:56:42 PM
Have you tried Electric-Freedom yet? There are some of my other early ones there too.....

Damn, I got around.....

I'm not touching that.  At least, not without gloves.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 01, 2016, 04:45:58 PM
Bearded has been working with the Wayback Machine.

http://freedomreborn.net/forums/index.php?topic=58448.0

I used a link at the bottom of the page for the Freedom Force Web Ring, and found several things that had a link or two that worked.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: bearded on April 02, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Here's one:
https://web.archive.org/web/20081005055834/http://www.mrbrdo.net/HeroTool/
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 17, 2016, 10:15:06 PM
If you plug this into the Wayback Machine the site has some working links. I don't think it's anything new, but...

http://www.freedommods.com/ff-spm.html

Then there is this site and the other capture shown on the site:

http://f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/freedom_forcer@sbcglobal.net

I don't know if it's broken or if I just don't know how to use this site.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 20, 2016, 05:11:31 AM
Plug this into the Wayback Machine:

http://comicskins.com/skindex/ff/canadian/canadian.htm

The only link that works is "download and run this program". It installs a Canadian Freedom Force for your use, so I suggest hat you have it install someplace where you can look through the stuff.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 20, 2016, 10:24:01 PM
Also, if you look though this site, you will see pics of an Unreal Tournament version of Wonder Woman by Dark Jared, and Superboy with a Shield by Afghan Ant.

...and so may broken links and lost skins...
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 20, 2016, 10:28:12 PM
For those of you who are interested in Sims, some of those links work.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 21, 2016, 12:48:52 AM
The situation with the Sims prompted me to try every link. There are something like 100 links that work, many for skins that are being hosted at Alex's place. I haven't gone through them yet, but I want to see what the Unreal Tournament Wonder Woman looks like.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: Outcast on April 26, 2016, 03:35:31 PM
The link for the NPI conversion pack still works if you type/search this address
Quote
http://newpowerinc.com/NPI_Conversion_Pack.zip

using the Wayback machine site. Just select the date Jan 28, 2007.

But i'm not really sure how to use it, if it does work at all. :wacko:

The Mod tools for  :ffvstr: also seem to have this nifconverter application. Which doesn't seem to work though.
I find it strange that Irrational would provide a defective converter in their Mod tools. :thumbdown:

Fortunately, Lightning Man made a Nif converter that works. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 27, 2016, 01:31:33 AM
http://hometown.aol.com/akyron/FFskins.html

Plug this into The Wayback Machine and there are a few Strikeforce skins that are there, along with Ravager. Someone requested him awhile back.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 27, 2016, 01:49:08 AM
http://cquintas.tripod.com/daemon.html

At this site, something is still there, but the .tga files want to download as html.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on April 28, 2016, 07:03:51 PM
http://geocities.com/mandateprime/mandate_previews.htm

Plug this into the Wayback Machine and you will go to a preview page of Mandate's skins. I have a few other skins, but have never before found a site for him. Now it seems that he had some stuff at the Skindex... :angry:
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Gorilla my dreams...
Post by: daglob on April 29, 2016, 04:13:14 AM
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb287/lonespaceranger/gorilla_anvil_zps7tslbine.jpg) (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/lonespaceranger/media/gorilla_anvil_zps7tslbine.jpg.html)

On the Twisted Earth site there is this pic, and a .zip file attached. Unfortunately, the zip is only 166 bytes, and pretty well useless.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: daglob on May 03, 2016, 01:38:13 AM
Found one called Wild Card in Death's Jester's page on an old capture of NPI.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Deaths Jester on May 06, 2016, 03:41:30 PM
I've still got most of the NPI characters I did...even the 2E versions. Only one I don't have is Ice3.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: daglob on May 06, 2016, 04:22:36 PM
I've still got most of the NPI characters I did...even the 2E versions. Only one I don't have is Ice3.

Sadly, the only link that works is the one for Wild Card :angry:
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Deaths Jester on May 06, 2016, 07:50:32 PM
I've still got most of the NPI characters I did...even the 2E versions. Only one I don't have is Ice3.

Sadly, the only link that works is the one for Wild Card :angry:

And I bet the one you got was the 1st version...has the jacket on it, right?
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: daglob on May 06, 2016, 10:07:36 PM
It has a long coat; looks like it was based on Gambit.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Deaths Jester on May 07, 2016, 05:16:34 AM
Yep, that's the first version which was a hex (skoping wasn't big yet) of Ink's Gambit mesh and I used C6's base as a start back then (was just starting to tinker with ideas at the time and had been bouncing between C6's and Valandar's base skins trying to find one that felt better than Gryphon's...the answer ended up being none as my latter stuff shows.)
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: daglob on May 07, 2016, 05:42:29 AM
You know, you could save us all a lot of trouble if you would just put all this older stuff in a Yahoo group or something... :twisted:

Is the newer version the one in your present Yahoo group?
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Deaths Jester on May 07, 2016, 03:39:30 PM
I don't think my yahoo groups even exist anymore. When yahoo started asking for a phone # I shut down my yahoo account, so I'd be amazed if the group is around. FRP was the last place that hosted my stuff and I've never gone looking for another host seeing as I'm semi-retired as a skinner.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: daglob on May 07, 2016, 03:50:53 PM
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/DeathsJester/info
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Deaths Jester on May 07, 2016, 03:56:36 PM
Hmm...interesting. I've no idea what is on that group cause it's been a long time since I put stuff on yahoo. Bit interesting it's still around though.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Cyber Burn on May 17, 2016, 04:54:57 AM
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/DeathsJester/info

What a fantastic find!  :thumbup: A really nice selection of Characters, I was really happy to see the Shield, and SS Agent, but I've always wondered where the Flash Skin came from. I knew it was a DJ creation, but I had never seen it anywhere before. It was always a favorite.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Deaths Jester on May 17, 2016, 06:52:53 PM
You know, I don't think I put this site up...I'm not sure though.  From what I can read (I AM NOT JOINING YAHOO to look at the files), it looks like it's most of my FFUnderground skins which means it doesn't have Wild Card v2 in it but the first version as well.  Hell, I barely even remember making skins of the Shield or Flash....jeez....been so many skins over the years I've forgotten more than I can remember.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: OrWolvie1 on May 18, 2016, 01:31:17 PM
You know, I don't think I put this site up...I'm not sure though.  From what I can read (I AM NOT JOINING YAHOO to look at the files), it looks like it's most of my FFUnderground skins which means it doesn't have Wild Card v2 in it but the first version as well.  Hell, I barely even remember making skins of the Shield or Flash....jeez....been so many skins over the years I've forgotten more than I can remember.

Age will do that to you, DJ. So will children. But hey, selective memory works for me ;)
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Cyber Burn on May 18, 2016, 03:54:15 PM
You know, I don't think I put this site up...I'm not sure though.  From what I can read (I AM NOT JOINING YAHOO to look at the files), it looks like it's most of my FFUnderground skins which means it doesn't have Wild Card v2 in it but the first version as well.  Hell, I barely even remember making skins of the Shield or Flash....jeez....been so many skins over the years I've forgotten more than I can remember.

I should have specified, the Flash Skin I was referring to was an Avatar Skin for Flash_22798, and like I said, it was very much a favorite, and it was extremely appreciated.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Deaths Jester on May 18, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
You know, I don't think I put this site up...I'm not sure though.  From what I can read (I AM NOT JOINING YAHOO to look at the files), it looks like it's most of my FFUnderground skins which means it doesn't have Wild Card v2 in it but the first version as well.  Hell, I barely even remember making skins of the Shield or Flash....jeez....been so many skins over the years I've forgotten more than I can remember.

Age will do that to you, DJ. So will children. But hey, selective memory works for me ;)

I think it's more on how many skins I did over the years, Wolvie1...and how many places they were hosted on that explains why I can't remember them all.  I mean, I go back to being one of the early FFCenter posters and jumped from there to Kraven's Marvel Page to Electric Freedom to FFUNderground and NPI to UnfluffyBunny to FRP....you get the picture...

You know, I don't think I put this site up...I'm not sure though.  From what I can read (I AM NOT JOINING YAHOO to look at the files), it looks like it's most of my FFUnderground skins which means it doesn't have Wild Card v2 in it but the first version as well.  Hell, I barely even remember making skins of the Shield or Flash....jeez....been so many skins over the years I've forgotten more than I can remember.

I should have specified, the Flash Skin I was referring to was an Avatar Skin for Flash_22798, and like I said, it was very much a favorite, and it was extremely appreciated.

I still don't remember it....I'm guessing I used C6's base for that one?
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Panther_Gunn on May 19, 2016, 01:46:42 AM
I think it's more on how many skins I did over the years, Wolvie1...and how many places they were hosted on that explains why I can't remember them all.  I mean, I go back to being one of the early FFCenter posters and jumped from there to Kraven's Marvel Page to Electric Freedom to FFUNderground and NPI to UnfluffyBunny to FRP....you get the picture...

Kind of like a rat on a sinking ship, covered in plague vermin.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Death's Jester
Post by: Deaths Jester on May 19, 2016, 08:27:04 PM
I think it's more on how many skins I did over the years, Wolvie1...and how many places they were hosted on that explains why I can't remember them all.  I mean, I go back to being one of the early FFCenter posters and jumped from there to Kraven's Marvel Page to Electric Freedom to FFUNderground and NPI to UnfluffyBunny to FRP....you get the picture...

Kind of like a rat on a sinking ship, covered in plague vermin.

How'd you know?!?!?!
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Thunder and Lightning... Bug
Post by: daglob on July 20, 2016, 01:49:57 AM
http://web.archive.org/web/20031222060330/http://dragonforceomega.com/

A site I haven't looked at probably since before I could play the game. It has a lot of interesting stuff... sadly, none that I have found accessible
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Thunder and Lightning... Bug
Post by: JKCarrier on July 20, 2016, 02:27:28 AM
Wow, I had completely forgotten about Dragon Force.  :o

The stuff in my section, at least, should all be available in my Yahoo groups.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Thunder and Lightning... Bug
Post by: Podmark on July 20, 2016, 04:12:05 AM
Ah the first site I was a member of...
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Thunder and Lightning... Bug
Post by: daglob on July 20, 2016, 04:44:39 AM
Heeeeyyy... I found a single Mr. Terrific skin by Thunder that was still there. I already had it, but it was there.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-NPI links are gone...
Post by: daglob on August 28, 2016, 04:43:13 AM
I was asked by a newer member if there were any Transformers, so I went and checked Valandar's NPI page at The Wayback Machine before I pointed him there. I discovered that none of the links work. I haven't checked any of the other pages, but I have a bad feeling about this...
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-NPI links are gone...
Post by: spydermann93 on August 28, 2016, 05:12:25 AM
Here you go :)

http://www.mediafire.com/download/zcmqm757uzve153/Transformers%282%29.zip
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-NPI links are gone...
Post by: daglob on August 28, 2016, 05:33:24 AM
Thanks! I sent him the link.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on January 30, 2017, 02:45:50 AM
http://cquintas.tripod.com/daemon.html

At this site, something is still there, but the .tga files want to download as html.

Out of curiosity, I tried this link again, and was able to download the skins.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: daglob on January 31, 2017, 01:50:52 AM
http://cquintas.tripod.com/daemon.html

At this site, something is still there, but the .tga files want to download as html.

Out of curiosity, I tried this link again, and was able to download the skins.

Aaaaannnd... when I was able to examine them they were corrupted.  :angry:
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Oops!
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 31, 2017, 02:17:30 AM
Wasn't able to even download anything from there.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Oops!
Post by: Cyber Burn on February 08, 2017, 09:48:02 PM
Since we're talking about FF history here, do we want to use this thread to discuss the FF Museum? Or do we want to create something new for it?
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Oops!
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 25, 2017, 03:53:03 AM
Came across this Link using the Way Back Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20021006203435/http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Maze/8681/table.html

Seemed kind of interesting.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Oops!
Post by: WyldFyre on March 25, 2017, 11:56:34 AM
I remember that site. :)  DC Heroes RPG stats. Ahhh.... memories.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Oops!
Post by: Cyber Burn on March 25, 2017, 05:48:52 PM
I wonder if there's anyway to back that site up. Maybe put it on a PDF File or something. Seems like a waste to let someone's hard work eventually disappear.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Oops!
Post by: daglob on March 25, 2017, 06:06:20 PM
I just tried saving Adam Strange as html on my hard drive, and it seems to work. Maybe it can be converted to .mht...
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on March 25, 2017, 08:28:07 PM
Hmmm... I can't seem to save the archives at all.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Oops!
Post by: John Jr. on March 26, 2017, 01:24:40 AM
I remember that site. :)  DC Heroes RPG stats. Ahhh.... memories.

Same here, it was my favorite Super-Hero RPG for years.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on March 26, 2017, 04:44:12 AM
I did manage it. I'm going to post a link to a couple of zips with all I could get.

http://www.mediafire.com/?h4eatj1c4e954
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: Cyber Burn on September 02, 2017, 08:27:34 PM
Not sure if we're still keeping track of Sites found through the Wayback Machine. But just in case:

http://wayback.archive.org/web/20060501220005oe_/http://pages.sbcglobal.net:80/heathcliff/home.html

I was able to pick up a few Skins off here this morning.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on September 02, 2017, 09:11:51 PM
Good find. I need to make a list of the sites on The Wayback Machine that still have skins and meshes.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: Cyber Burn on November 15, 2017, 04:09:46 PM
I can't remember, did we post this one yet?

http://web.archive.org/web/20021220174423/http://webpages.charter.net:80/heroconversions/
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on November 15, 2017, 05:33:17 PM
No, it doesn't seem to be on the list. That one is actually still active. I knew about it years ago, but lost the address some time or another.

I've added it to the list of active sites in the FF Historical Preservation thread.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: spydermann93 on November 15, 2017, 06:35:37 PM
I can't remember, did we post this one yet?

http://web.archive.org/web/20021220174423/http://webpages.charter.net:80/heroconversions/

Holy moley! This one still works!?! The one I found had dead links everywhere!

Great find, Cyber! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on November 15, 2017, 07:07:26 PM
The Meshworks link goes to a Azrael Keyframe comparability list, the Hero Files link downloads a file called Hero Conversions that is full of Hero Files, the links to the DC and Marvel  conversion pages are gone, Hero List is a page that explains which meshes you should use for which character, the links are outdated, as are his suggestions for where to find the meshes.

It may be obsolete, but it could still be of some use.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: spydermann93 on November 15, 2017, 07:12:42 PM
The Meshworks link goes to a Azrael Keyframe comparability list, the Hero Files link downloads a file called Hero Conversions that is full of Hero Files, the links to the DC and Marvel  conversion pages are gone, Hero List is a page that explains which meshes you should use for which character, the links are outdated, as are his suggestions for where to find the meshes.

It may be obsolete, but it could still be of some use.

Which browser are you using? I'm using Chrome and they work for me.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on November 15, 2017, 07:39:33 PM
I'm using Chrome too. It's them darn gremlins again.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on November 16, 2017, 01:13:09 AM
I was messing around and found that this archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/20060113131803/http://newpowerinc.com:80/hgpages/housequake.htm

leads to what I think may be the last capture of this version of NPI. There seem to be one or two more skins in some of the sections.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: Cyber Burn on November 16, 2017, 03:43:26 AM
Speaking of NPI: Hereís a little Crosspost:


Going through NPI, I found Links for HouseQuake and Valandar that list all their working Downloads. Definitely worth checking out.

HouseQuake: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://newpowerinc.com/housequakefiles/*


Valandar: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://newpowerinc.com/valanderfiles/*

Thereís also a Link like this for Paradox, but Iím not at my PC, so I donít have it with me. But these Links will tell you exactly which Files are available by each Content Creator. Theyíve been really helpful to me.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: Cyber Burn on December 30, 2017, 07:35:38 AM
Have we posted this yet? I know it's not a content site, but it's kind of interesting as far as FF history goes.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040816223959/http://mumas.com:80/FF/
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on December 30, 2017, 08:09:14 AM
That was not in the list of Wayback Machine Archives, and it is my fault: this is the site that linked me to the archive of NPI that started this whole thing.

It's listed now. Thanks!
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: Cyber Burn on January 15, 2018, 07:58:42 PM
Found this one kind of interesting, don't think I've ever seen it before.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020804130941/http://www.raventg.com/ff.nsf/All/Home
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on January 15, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
I've never seen it either. It kind of reminds me of Alex's place. I'll look around in it and if it has anything I'll add it to the list.

Hey! the e-mail address is Alex's. Very interesting...
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: John Jr. on January 16, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
I gave it a try and downloaded some hero files (some are working, some broken). It looks like an older version of Alex site, it have links to his "goodies", like EZ Danger Room and his mods.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on January 16, 2018, 09:01:48 PM
Been busy all day, but I intend to add it to the post for The Wayback Machine.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: Panther_Gunn on January 17, 2018, 03:13:15 AM
Oh yeah, that's definitely Alex's place.  Good times.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: spydermann93 on January 17, 2018, 03:32:07 AM
I've never seen it either. It kind of reminds me of Alex's place. I'll look around in it and if it has anything I'll add it to the list.

Hey! the e-mail address is Alex's. Very interesting...

It is the Freedom Fortress. Just a really, really, really old version of it, by the looks of things.

It's amazing how much the site has improved since then.

I gave it a try and downloaded some hero files (some are working, some broken). It looks like an older version of Alex site, it have links to his "goodies", like EZ Danger Room and his mods.

I think that I actually have Alex's older hero recipes. I'll have to check and see, though.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
Post by: daglob on January 17, 2018, 03:34:34 AM
I sent the link to Alex.
Title: Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
Post by: RTTingle on January 22, 2018, 03:03:53 AM
The thing is, what do I do with them? I've found several, like RTTingle's avatar (two of them), that I don't think are anyplace else, and, since he isn't around these day, I can't really ask him if I can post it to a NPI Yahoo group. I'm still not sure what I've got.

Sure!  Go right ahead.  :)
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-What's New?
Post by: daglob on January 25, 2018, 12:06:26 AM
Altered the title somewhat. It's kind of misleading, since it's what's old that we are looking at.

Just for yuks, I tried all the keyframes at the NPI archive, and most of them are still there. If you don't have them, and think you might ever use them. I suggest you download all you can. For best results, it seems that opening the link in a new tab keeps you from shifting back and forth between windows, but you will be left with a lot of tabs. Whatever is the easiest way for you.

Just as a rule of thumb: in the skins and meshes, if it has a picture, it has a skin most of the time. None of Valandar's mecha seem to be there, and while many of the maps and FX are there, a lot are not.

Also: nothing from Ewzzy is there.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-What's New?
Post by: daglob on March 27, 2018, 03:57:33 AM
Just messing around, but the pages after the first page of The Skindex are gone. There were no meshes in the first place.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-What's New?
Post by: Cyber Burn on June 02, 2018, 07:19:20 PM
Has this been posted yet?

https://wayback.archive.org/web/20040416095851/http://www.osakaproject.net:80/heroforce/HFindex.htm
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-What's New?
Post by: daglob on June 02, 2018, 09:28:52 PM
I have seen that. I couldn't find any skins in the site. I'm still on the fence about listing empty sites. Maybe a separate post in the Living List?
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-What's New?
Post by: Cyber Burn on June 02, 2018, 10:30:47 PM
Yeah, unfortunately, I've only found 1 Skin so far. It looks like everything else may be held in various Yahoo Groups.
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Update 4/17/19
Post by: daglob on April 17, 2019, 11:21:14 PM
I've mentioned before that it seems as though a lot of stuff in the old sites is disappearing, and NPI seems to be losing a lot. If you want anything from them, or think you might use something, I suggest you go to the archive and download everything you can. Remember, sometimes you can access older or newer captures from the scale at the top of the page, and get slightly different  versions of some of the skins and meshes.

This is a link to an archive of a capture from November 2005:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050211111913/http://www.newpowerinc.com/
Title: Re: Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine-Update 4/17/19
Post by: Deaths Jester on April 18, 2019, 04:37:03 PM
Back when NPI was running, I remember the site being hit by a massive virus which caused HQ to take the site down and "clean" everything before bringing it back to life. I wonder if that has something to do with the amount of lose in the archived versions...