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Title: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on May 26, 2017, 01:11:00 PM
Might as well try and see if this works out.
I recently got around to starting Monster,at current speed I might even finish it by the next decade.So,what are you guys watching these days?
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: kkhohoho on May 27, 2017, 01:54:57 AM
Quote from: Spade on May 26, 2017, 01:11:00 PM
Might as well try and see if this works out.
I recently got around to starting Monster,at current speed I might even finish it by the next decade.So,what are you guys watching these days?

Nothing right now. The last anime I watched was Escaflowne, which is quite possibly both one of the best fantasy and giant robot shows I've ever seen. Other than that, I've dabbled in Baccano and thought about watching some other stuff, but I haven't really seen anything else since.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on May 27, 2017, 08:44:53 AM
Well,we have to kill time while we wait for Part 5 of JoJos Bizarre Adventure. :)
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: kkhohoho on May 27, 2017, 02:35:16 PM
Quote from: Spade on May 27, 2017, 08:44:53 AM
Well,we have to kill time while we wait for Part 5 of JoJos Bizarre Adventure. :)

Honestly, I've never seen Jojo, if only because I've already read the manga. 9 times out of time, anime adaptions of shonen manga are just the manga with some filler thrown in. So why should I watch it if it's just the original manga with with pretty colors and animation? Maybe I'll watch it one of these days if I want to read Jojo again and figure I might as well just watch the anime instead reading the whole manga again, but that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on May 27, 2017, 03:04:07 PM
Some fillers?I think your selling them short there. :rolleyes:
Granted,by that logic,why watch any adaptation of anything?
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: kkhohoho on May 27, 2017, 04:05:32 PM
Quote from: Spade on May 27, 2017, 03:04:07 PM
Some fillers?I think your selling them short there. :rolleyes:
Granted,by that logic,why watch any adaptation of anything?

Because sometimes, the adaptation is different enough that it's still worth watching. Just look at FMA.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on May 27, 2017, 04:09:56 PM
That doesnt really work as an example,the second anime is the better one.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: kkhohoho on May 27, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: Spade on May 27, 2017, 04:09:56 PM
That doesnt really work as an example,the second anime is the better one.
I didn't say that the adaption has to be better; it can be that much worse for all I care. But at least it's still different.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Silver Shocker on May 31, 2017, 12:24:20 PM
Spade, if you're anything like me you'll like Monster. It's certainly a bit slow to start up (you need to watch the first 4 or so episodes before you even get to the premise of the show) but it's a good story. It's certainly not a flashy series. I found it perhaps the most grown-up anime I've watched. If there was ever a anime I've seen that could get an Western live action remake without really compromising anything. I mean, really, the characters are non-Japanese to begin with. It would fit right in with stuff like Dexter and Hannibal.

Yeah, manga-to-anime adaptations (especially shonen) have a level of beat-by-beat accuracy and fidelity, even with the filler and edits, that's rarely if ever seen elsewhere. The only things I can think of are Watchmen or the DC Animated films based on Frank Miller's Batman, and even Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns had additions and subtractions to change it up.

Absolutely agree that Brotherhood was the better Full Metal Alchemist, though IMO the Manga still trumps it for a few reasons. The nice thing though? It doesn't have to be one or the other. The original still had a an interesting story in its own right (one the manga ka apparently had some input in, if I recall correctly) and it was good enough to get myself and no doubt a lot of other Western fans into the series just by virtue of being on tv.

Speaking for myself, I'd say the benefits of watching the anime even after reading the manga are the things that medium brings to the table. To use a series I've invested literally hundreds of hours into watching: One Piece. The voice acting is wonderful (in the Japanese version; the Funimation dub is a mixed bag, though not without its positives IMO) the soundtrack is glorious, the openings and endings are a lot of fun and on the occasions that the animators bust out what I like to call the "the good animation" it enhances the experience. The same can be said for pretty much all of the shonen action series I've seen. 

I actually just finished re-watching FMA Brotherhood recently. I still love it though the manga is the best version of that story.

I saw Escalowne a good decade + ago, and I quite liked it, but I actually wouldn't mind going back and rewatching it. If nothing else, I'm curious how the Funimation redub ended up. Though I really miss the days where Ocean got to dub stuff. I should stress I'm not one of those guys who's really harsh on English dubs.

I just recently watched Psycho Pass 2. I've heard a lot of people thought it was a letdown compared to the first one but honestly I thought it was pretty good, even if they were making sure not to step on the toes of the movie that was being made around the same time (I'll probably be watching that soon).

I recently watched the Stein's Gate movie. I loved the tv series and the movie was fun but it was really just a reunion special made to get these characters together again and have them play off each other.

I also recently got back into Gundam for the first time in a long time with season 1 of Iron Blood Orphans. That was pretty good. I'll have to see S2 at some point.

I always seem to end up rewatching Death Note every few years. That was a big favorite of mine.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on May 31, 2017, 12:45:30 PM
Well,Monster is the only one(or maybe one of 2)of Urasawas works I havent read.Watched in this case.
On the topic of adaptations,different medium provides a different experience.Granted only example I can think of where I read the manga and watched the anime are Shaman King and Yu-gi-oh.But in both cases,there were big differences between the manga and the anime.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on June 07, 2017, 05:39:07 AM
http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/138376-cowboy-bebop-to-get-a-live-action-tv-series.html (http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/138376-cowboy-bebop-to-get-a-live-action-tv-series.html)
Oh no...
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Cyber Burn on August 20, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
I've recently watched:

Fairy Tail: Priestess of the Phoenix
Fairy Tail: Dragon Cry

So now I want to go back and watch the the whole Fairy Tail series, just so I can play catch up. Other shows I've been watching bit by bit (Mostly older ones though), are:

Black Blood Brothers
Heat Guy J
Owari No Seraph (Which I'm really liking)
Blood-C
Absolute Duo

Silver Shocker, I'm right there with you on this one:
QuoteI also recently got back into Gundam for the first time in a long time with season 1 of Iron Blood Orphans. That was pretty good. I'll have to see S2 at some point.

I saw a little bit of the Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works Movie, and I think I want to give the Fate series a try as well when I finish everything else.

Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Podmark on August 21, 2017, 03:20:07 AM
Quote from: Cyber Burn on August 20, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
I saw a little bit of the Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works Movie, and I think I want to give the Fate series a try as well when I finish everything else.

I really recommend Fate/Zero. One of my favourite series.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 21, 2017, 04:24:24 AM
From somebody who gave up a long time ago,Fairy Tail isnt worth it.Its all fanservice and friendship speeches.

Currently,Im only watching Space Battleship Yamato 2199.Its good.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Red Fisser on August 22, 2017, 04:28:46 AM
Boku no Hero academia is a great anime. Plus its superhero themed!
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on August 22, 2017, 04:55:53 AM
Quote from: Red Fisser on August 22, 2017, 04:28:46 AM
Boku no Hero academia is a great anime. Plus its superhero themed!
I found it to be the most mediocre shounen series ever.But thats probably just me.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Tomato on August 22, 2017, 04:45:33 PM
All Might is best character. That is all. *teleports away again*
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: kkhohoho on August 22, 2017, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: Tomato on August 22, 2017, 04:45:33 PM
All Might is best character. That is all. *teleports away again*

All Might who now?
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Tomato on August 22, 2017, 08:23:48 PM
One of the primary characters in Boku no Hero Academia (aka My Hero Academia) and mentor to the series protagonist. He is voiced by Christopher Sabat (Vegeta/Piccolo) in the dub, and he is AMAZING.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Cyber Burn on August 23, 2017, 05:43:58 AM
Quote from: Podmark on August 21, 2017, 03:20:07 AM
Quote from: Cyber Burn on August 20, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
I saw a little bit of the Fate Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works Movie, and I think I want to give the Fate series a try as well when I finish everything else.

I really recommend Fate/Zero. One of my favourite series.

Thanks for the suggestion Pod, I'll definitely add it to my list.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Silver Shocker on August 23, 2017, 07:02:36 AM
I'll second that recommendation. I really enjoyed Fate/Zero.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Luigisan on September 06, 2017, 08:17:58 PM
I'm currently into Gamers! And Fate/Apocrypha, all looking interesting so far.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: bat1987 on September 21, 2017, 11:18:32 AM
Big fan of My hero Academia, very funny, lots of cool characters, animation is top notch too. Agreed with everyone that Brotherhood was superior to original FMA. That being said, original FMA had some interesting ideas and def is a fun watch.

Quote from: Silver Shocker on May 31, 2017, 12:24:20 PM
Spade, if you're anything like me you'll like Monster. It's certainly a bit slow to start up (you need to watch the first 4 or so episodes before you even get to the premise of the show) but it's a good story. It's certainly not a flashy series. I found it perhaps the most grown-up anime I've watched. If there was ever a anime I've seen that could get an Western live action remake without really compromising anything. I mean, really, the characters are non-Japanese to begin with. It would fit right in with stuff like Dexter and Hannibal.

Great anime, def unlike anything out there. Even non anime fans seem to enjoy it due to its theme and story. There was some talk about Guilermo Del Toro adapting it into a live action series. It's def right up his alley so we'll see, could be interesting if it ever happens.

On topic of Death Note, def one of my all time favorites, twists and turns are amazing. Silver, if you are fan of Death Note, I'd reccomend Code Geass. Great anime, also has a really smart protagonist who is manipulating people around him. They also recently announced season 3, so might be good time to watch if you haven't already.

Big surprise for me, is a show i recently watched, Assassination Classroom. Not sure what's sillier at first, the premise or that it works sooo good. The more you watch, the more you find out about all the characters and that not everything is the way it seems at first. A lot of funny and emotional moments. Around 50-ish episodes and the story ends beautifully.

A bit of an obscure reccomendation for those of you that like main characters and their oposition playing mind games and game of cat and mouse is Terror in Resonance. It only has 11 episodes so you can binge watch it, def worth checking out IMO.

Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on September 21, 2017, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: bat1987 on September 21, 2017, 11:18:32 AM

On topic of Death Note, def one of my all time favorites, twists and turns are amazing. Silver, if you are fan of Death Note, I'd recommend Code Geass. Great anime, also has a really smart protagonist who is manipulating people around him. They also recently announced season 3

They did?I missed a lot...
Oh yeah,Terror in Resonance was interesting.

On the topic of thing nobody watched,but I feel obliged to recommend- Record of Lodoss War.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Silver Shocker on September 22, 2017, 08:18:51 AM
Quote from: bat1987 on September 21, 2017, 11:18:32 AM

Great anime, def unlike anything out there. Even non anime fans seem to enjoy it due to its theme and story. There was some talk about Guilermo Del Toro adapting it into a live action series. It's def right up his alley so we'll see, could be interesting if it ever happens.

Does he know the kind of monsters he usually has in his projects aren't in this?  :P I mean, if he wants in some weird thing with eyeballs on his hands, well, that's certainly something that would be at home in some other manga and anime, no so much Monster.

QuoteSilver, if you are fan of Death Note, I'd reccomend Code Geass. Great anime, also has a really smart protagonist who is manipulating people around him. They also recently announced season 3, so might be good time to watch if you haven't already.

Actually, I did watch Code Geass a few years ago. I quite enjoyed it. I definitely see some similarities between Light/Kira and Lelouch/Zero. That plus Mechas made for a good time.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on October 15, 2017, 03:08:22 PM
Anyone seen Lupin the Third maybe?How was it?
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: GhostMachine on October 16, 2017, 06:31:18 PM
The Lupin the Third series is great, and I do recommend it. However, I've never actually seen any of the movies. I plan to correct that at some point.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on October 16, 2017, 07:09:51 PM
Thanks,I should get around to that soon.
From what I remember movies were a mixed bag.From great to "what the hell was that?"
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: kkhohoho on October 16, 2017, 07:12:30 PM
I haven't seen any of them either, except for the Castle of Cagliostro. Which is probably the case with most people. That's one a classic.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on December 09, 2017, 08:23:54 PM
So live action Battle angel Alita will happen.Anyone notice how by the time they get around to adapting a manga/anime,it has already been aped so many times that the movie looks like a copy of its own copy?I think thats called the John Carter effect.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: UnkoMan on December 18, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
Quote from: HarryTrotter on May 26, 2017, 01:11:00 PM
Might as well try and see if this works out.
I recently got around to starting Monster,at current speed I might even finish it by the next decade.So,what are you guys watching these days?

Monster, while having some slow parts, is pretty fantastic. I remember loving it.
Paranoia Agent is another great one that I don't hear enough said about...

But if you just want to have wild fun, watch FLCL or even better Dead Leaves. That one's under an hour of hyper kinetic fun.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Silver Shocker on December 19, 2017, 07:52:49 AM
Actually I did see Paranoia Agent quite a few years ago and I quite liked that one. A strange series to be sure, but ended on a fairly satisfying note. I ended up watching it specifically because someone recommended it to people who were dissatisfied with Lost's failure to resolve its various mysteries.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on January 27, 2019, 07:37:50 PM
Im getting a weird urge to rewatch Gundam Wing.
Great everything...except the story.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Silver Shocker on January 28, 2019, 05:53:37 AM
I've got something of a soft spot for Gundam Wing because it was the first Gundam series I ever saw (I'd never even heard of Gundam until it was announced it would be airing on tv). I've rewatched it once since, but I found it hard to follow the story because it's politics and exposition kinda caused me to zone out.

Compare that to Gundam Seed and Unicorn, those seemed to hold my attention no matter what's going on or what the characters are talking about.

Wing might have been the first Gundam Series I watched, but Seed was the one that I got most attached to. I'm glad they're making a lot of new Gundam material these days, but I find it difficult to keep up (case in point: Unicorn came out in 2014 or so and I still haven't finished it)

Wow. Before Wing they made Gundam, Zeta, Double Zeta, Char's Counterattack, F-91, War in the Pocket, Stardust Memory, Victory, And G Gundam. So they made a LOT of Gundam before they got to Wing, and not counting G and the OVAs, the only one that wasn't Tomino was Wing. So was the problem that they haven't figured out how to do a Gundam tv series without Tomino yet?
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on January 28, 2019, 06:12:57 AM
Problem was more that they tried to cram the entire original trilogy (MSG,Zeta,CCA) into one series.And lets face it,Wing is melodramatic even by the standards of this franchise.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: kkhohoho on January 28, 2019, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: HarryTrotter on January 28, 2019, 06:12:57 AM
Problem was more that they tried to cram the entire original trilogy (MSG,Zeta,CCA) into one series.

You forgot ZZ. Though I'm pretty sure Wing did too.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on January 28, 2019, 04:03:02 PM
I didnt.But its the Force Awakens of the franchise.Only ZZ actually has a few good episodes.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on March 06, 2019, 10:03:57 AM
Finished the rest of Netflix/anime Godzilla trilogy.Dont bother with it. I mean how do you f*ck this up?Just have giant monsters duke it out,thats literally all you had to do.
But no,we are stuck for nearly six hours with talking heads waxing anime quasi-philosophy.But wait,they are foreshadowing King Ghidorah.We can still rescue this in the third movie finale.Here he comes,a big fight is going to happen.
Spoiler
And hes a CGI hole in the sky.And Godzilla one punches him.The hell?
Spoiler
And then the main human character just rams his Macross jet into Godzilla and kills him?The hell?
Worst sin any movie can do is to be boring.And this s*it was boring.
Again,its a Godzilla anime,how do you funt this up so badly?  :banghead:
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: daglob on March 06, 2019, 12:10:04 PM
It takes areal talent for mediocrity, that's what it takes.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on March 06, 2019, 12:28:51 PM
Reminds me in a way of Netflix Castlevania.
Its a fairly simple premise where you actually have to try to make it boring.And both have priests as villains.
I mean not like this is live action so a three headed dragon would be unbelivable.Why the change?Its like making Galactus into a cloud,but that at least had an excuse of live action.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: Silver Shocker on March 06, 2019, 02:56:32 PM
Yes, the Godzilla anime movies were strange creatures, but not really good Godzilla. I've seen all three of them, but none of them held my attention, I can barely remember them and I can't really tell you what happened in them other than some scant details. It felt a lot like a studio and creative team wanted to tell a sci-fi anime story, but had to stick some Godzilla monsters in it. Or perhaps it would be more accurate to say some giant monsters that share the names of some Godzilla monsters.

I'll admit I'm not really a fan of the franchise, and watched these because they were filtered through the anime aesthetics and, as anime movies, were short and digestible, but they're so far removed from Godzilla movies have pretty much always been it almost makes you wonder why they bothered at all.

Like, when One Piece did these one-off filler episodes where the cast were placed in a feudal Japan bounty hunter setting, the characterization and humor was still One Piece.

I remember the fairy princess girls got reimagined as anime moeblob girls, and some villain ranted about philosophy for a long time. I dunno. It was weird, and it didn't feel like Godzilla at all.
It also didn't help that it was done by the same studio that did Knights of Sidonia, so everyone is CGI but they don't really have the range of face, build, facial structure, ect to look varied enough. That would have been the kind of benefit you'd get from it being anime.

Now Netflix Castlevania is a odd series as well, but honestly I liked that better. And it at least resembles the source material more.

QuoteI didnt.But its the Force Awakens of the franchise.Only ZZ actually has a few good episodes.

ZZ was the one where the first half is almost a spoof and then they changed their mind half-way through and did a more traditional Gundam show right? Yeah, kinda hard to fit that into Wing.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on March 06, 2019, 03:25:15 PM
They were trying to write anything BUT Godzilla it seems.And like I said,its just boring and thats one sin a movie shouldnt have.

Theory was that at the time everyone was working on Chars Counterattack so nobody gave a cr@p.Much like Bright this time around.Also explains why Quattro is in the opening but never appears in the series.Still from what I remember,Dublin arc was pretty good and in general later half got better.
And as usual with this franchise,there are a few manga and novels acting as interquels and making more sense of this period.I doubt any of it was released outside Japan,but I hear it exists.
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on March 06, 2019, 08:38:39 PM
On a tangenial note,Godzilla the series was pretty good from what I remember.Yes,1998 movie gave birth to an awesome animated series.Which is complete reverse of how that usually happens.
Then again,what was the last film to get a cartoon follow up?
Title: Re: An Anime Thread
Post by: HarryTrotter on March 24, 2019, 06:29:08 PM
So there is a Marvel anime I only now heard about- Marvel Future Avengers.Its Avengers but like a shounen anime.And thats about that.Also,this is the second anime that takes inspiration from MCU but uses Wasp instead of Black Widow.
If I ever get to the second episode,I will have more things to say...