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Title: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 06, 2018, 09:17:25 PM
Don't recall seeing this mentioned elsewhere, so here we are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg52up16eq0

Seriously, though, this looks like a lot of fun!  We're actually getting Spider-Ham into a big-screen film.  It's completely different form anything they are likely to do in live action and that just makes this better.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: Shogunn2517 on October 06, 2018, 11:02:21 PM
I heard they based Peter Parker on Raimi's Spider-Man but anyone know how close to Canon this is?
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 07, 2018, 03:35:48 AM
I heard they based Peter Parker on Raimi's Spider-Man but anyone know how close to Canon this is?

Not certain, but most of the scenes they show of his past adventures are straight out copies of scenes from those movies.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: BentonGrey on October 07, 2018, 05:39:39 AM
Haha, that looks absolutely delightful!  I'm definitely interested. 
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: UnkoMan on October 07, 2018, 06:34:51 AM
At first I wasn't sure about this art, but seeing this trailer brought me around to it.
I'm assuming the choppiness is a youtube problem.

Looks pretty fun though. I am digging an older, greying Peter.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: Silver Shocker on October 07, 2018, 06:50:02 AM
He might be influenced on Raimi's Peter but he has mechanical web shooters which that version of Spider-Man did not. So unless that changed at some point in the timeline it's not literally that version of the character.

Movie looks fun enough. One part that sorta bugs me is they make Peter Parker pathetic in this. He's shlubby and out of shape looking, he tries to stick Miles with the check at the diner, he comes off as kind of a loser, which I think is a shame, because I like the idea of Peter as a mentor as Miles, but maybe a version of Pete that has his act together more (man, the non-ruined version of Spider-Girl feels like such a long time ago). I don't even remember the teenage versions of Spider-Man from the last two cartoon shows coming off this bad. It's especially disappointing considering the new (very good) Spider-Man video game that just came out, which featured a 20 + Peter (and teenage Miles) whose interactions with Miles never once came at Pete's expense.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 07, 2018, 03:09:47 PM
Movie looks fun enough. One part that sorta bugs me is they make Peter Parker pathetic in this. He's shlubby and out of shape looking, he tries to stick Miles with the check at the diner,

Did you take a look at said check?  It was 30,000 dollars for that meal.  Miles has epic inflation in his universe, so of course Peter can't pay for that kind of bill.

And he doesn't look at all out of shape to me.  Older, but not out of shape.

I'm assuming the choppiness is a youtube problem.

Nope, chopiness is deliberate. They turned down the framerate, so it would look more like individual comic panels being animated.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: Silver Shocker on October 08, 2018, 11:31:29 AM

Did you take a look at said check?  It was 30,000 dollars for that meal.  Miles has epic inflation in his universe, so of course Peter can't pay for that kind of bill.


Assuming you're not being serious about that epic inflation thing, I like to think that the next thing that happens is Miles and Peter have to scrub toilets to make up for not being able to pay, like in The Mighty Ducks 3.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: catwhowalksbyhimself on October 08, 2018, 10:10:13 PM

Did you take a look at said check?  It was 30,000 dollars for that meal.  Miles has epic inflation in his universe, so of course Peter can't pay for that kind of bill.


Assuming you're not being serious about that epic inflation thing, I like to think that the next thing that happens is Miles and Peter have to scrub toilets to make up for not being able to pay, like in The Mighty Ducks 3.

I AM being serious.  Someone took a look at the screenshot of that bill.  It does indeed add up to 30,000 dollars for a couple of burger and fry meals.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: UnkoMan on October 11, 2018, 11:38:08 PM
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That's a shame about that framerate. Well, I'll save criticism for final viewing.
The movie itself looks fun though.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: Tomato on December 16, 2018, 03:18:36 PM
Saw this yesterday, movie was fantastic. The art style is fantastic overall, with the one kinda iffy element is the way they try to fake camera focus... the style doesn't mesh well with more typical blurring techniques, so instead they opt to do this sort of fake 3d thing where the things that are kind of double exposed? It's hard to describe but it's distracting in a few places, particularly in one shot when the focus slowly changes.

Otherwise, it's fantastic in action. The style allows for a lot of elements from comic books to work well in this film (thought caption boxes, sound effects, etc) and not be distracting the way they are in live action films that have tried to use those sorts of elements *cough*Hulk*cough*. Also, every Spider-man's origin/background is told via a comic book, which is brilliant and turns into a running gag.

Some spoilery thoughts (and seriously, do NOT read them before watching the film. It will spoil an early twist that is vital to the story.)

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Fantastic film. Highly recommended, great movie to take kids to.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: Silver Shocker on December 17, 2018, 01:28:54 AM
I didn't mention but I don't really like the art style to this movie. Yeah, I've heard a few people online say the animation makes it look more like a comic book in motion but 1) I never really felt comic book adaptations needed to look like comics in motion in that way. I thought the cartoons like Spider-Man and Batman TAS and Justice League were fine the way the way they were and 2) I still just don't find it visually appealing. I think it has to do with the way they fool around with the frame rate. It just looks janky and choppy.

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Also, every Spider-man's origin/background is told via a comic book, which is brilliant and turns into a running gag.

I've seen a lot of modern video games do that, particularly when they want to cheap out and show a flashback or some other segment in another location without having to make the assets needed to show that scene in engine (mind you, that's obviously not why this movie does it). Infamous, a superhero themed game, did it, and most appropriately, the Deadpool video game did it for every X-Men character who guest starred, going so far as to show real comic covers.

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And he doesn't look at all out of shape to me.  Older, but not out of shape.

 Here's a tv spot I saw the other day that acknowledges in-universe that he's gotten fat.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-txKsjeGoc)

I will say, I do like that in the tv spots (including the above one) you can see Spider-Man, in full costume, doing the dance from Spider-Man 3. That's kinda great.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: detourne_me on December 17, 2018, 02:54:59 AM
I loved the movie. The art style was gorgeous in my opinion, the way how they used the Ben-Day dots as a sort of filter to 'flatten' the 3D models and make it look like a comic was ingenious. I especially love the text boxes and sound effects being represented visually. So many fantastic design choices and references. From the Sienkiewicz Kingpin to... well... jeeze so much. Referencing all kinds of memes, and so on. I loved it.
Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
Post by: spydermann93 on December 24, 2018, 06:22:26 PM
I loved the movie. The art style was gorgeous in my opinion, the way how they used the Ben-Day dots as a sort of filter to 'flatten' the 3D models and make it look like a comic was ingenious. I especially love the text boxes and sound effects being represented visually. So many fantastic design choices and references. From the Sienkiewicz Kingpin to... well... jeeze so much. Referencing all kinds of memes, and so on. I loved it.

Pretty much exactly this.

I love this movie! The style, the comic book feel, the music, the various Spider-People, the supporting cast, all great. Miles was awesome and I really liked Kingpin, too.

Mato brought up the "out-of-focus" stylistic choices and yeah, I agree, it was odd that they chose to do that, but it didn't bother me, even after I noticed it. I was thinking it was a problem with the screen I was at, but I quickly found out I was wrong, lol

Definitely worth a watch for anybody even remotely interested in Spider-Man. And if you don't like Spider-Man, this movie just might change your mind with a focus on a different Spider-Man than everybody is so used to seeing by now. 9/10 for me!