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Comics / Re: DC Comics Reboot

« Last post by Silver Shocker on January 15, 2019, 01:15:22 AM »

Maybe, but pretty much everybody was writing for the trade in the Jemas era, so something about Bendis' writing must have stood out to make him a hit. I would point to his grounded gritty crime work on books like Jessica Jones and Daredevil, and his work on Ultimate Spider-Man. Mind you, the fact that Bendis hasn't really grown as a writer in any meaningful way in all this time may have a lot to do with that. He's still padding out stories, and of course, my current least favorite trope of his, taking story-related info fans want to know about the story, and holding off on revealing it so he can make it a "mystery" to be revealed later.

Any way, I'm sure I've said this many many times (HT has touched on this as well, calling his character voices a "hive mind") but one of the big problems I have with B is that he's just not suited to just any old superhero genre or book. Marvel (and now DC) are putting him on books he's just not suited for, and while some writers, perhaps one could say many writers, are flexible and can write different Marvel and DC characters, Bendis really can't. His character voice range is incredibly limited and poor, and even well established and well defined characters like, say, Emma Frost, ended up sounding wrong when written by him, saying things they just wouldn't say in any other book written by any other writer.

Bendis wasn't well suited to writing Avengers, and he's really not really suited to writing Superman. And while he does have experience writing teen superheroes with Ultimate Spider-Man, I just don't trust him enough to try out his Young Justice, and any time I hear bad things about it it's just going to reinforce that notion.

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Film, Television, Video and Music Discussion / Re: DC Extended Universe

« Last post by BentonGrey on January 15, 2019, 01:04:34 AM »

Indeed, Shogunn, that was, perhaps, the greatest strength of Smallville.  It did an excellent job of showing you how Lex could become his eventual villainous self, but in a compelling, fascinating, and sympathetic way.

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Film, Television, Video and Music Discussion / Re: DC Extended Universe

« Last post by daglob on January 15, 2019, 01:00:33 AM »

From someplace else: you are always the hero of your own story.

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Film, Television, Video and Music Discussion / Re: DC Extended Universe

« Last post by Shogunn2517 on January 14, 2019, 11:42:15 PM »

Actually, one of my more favorite portrayals of Lex Luthor comes from Smallville. I'd say less of a portrayal(even though Rosenbaum did a really fine job), but more of motivation. Over the 8-10 years of the series, we could see how he developed into the kind of person he is and how he's very much is father's son in many respects. But more than that there were a couple of times in the show that I think really captured him best. There was this one episode, the specifics escape me, but Lex I believe was betrayed by a girlfriend and he in-turn did something really "Lex Luthorry" back to her and after the ensuing falling out, she says "Lex we could have been great together." And without missing a beat he responds "I plan to be great all by myself." Like his life harden who he was to make him want to be better than everyone and to have a control he felt he didn't have growing up.

Another part was with his relationship with Clark or how he would relate to an eventual Superman. Again, I don't quite remember the specifics, but he and Clark were pontificating on a super being with super powers with promise of saving the world. Clark, of course knowing that's pretty much him, was saying this would be a good thing, while Lex was thinking that such a being with that kind of power has way too much control over who lives, who dies, etc. and for someone like him, a regular flesh and blood person to stand up to such a super being, has got to be the bravest person in the world. He was making the argument of him being the hero of his story, which again, showed me, that despite all the sinister and evil stuff we see him do, he thinks he is still the good guy for standing up to such power. To him he's the David vs Superman's Goliath and that's why he keeps fighting.

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Film, Television, Video and Music Discussion / Re: DC Extended Universe

« Last post by Silver Shocker on January 14, 2019, 10:56:47 PM »

I haven't read the comic of All-Star Superman, but I watched the animated movie and this exchange made it in, and it's one of my favorite bits of dialogue involving Lex Luthor:

Luthor: (trying to lunge at him) I saw how to save the world! I could have made everyone see. I could have saved the world if it wasn't for you!
(Superman knocks him out)
Superman: You could have saved the world years ago if it mattered to you, Luthor.

In the animated movie, Superman doesn't knock him out, and a defeated Luthor says "You're right". I actually like that version better. Lex actually admitting the problem is him is kinda a huge deal for the character in any iteration. I imagine they put they in because of the change they made to the ending.

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Promotions and Site Updates / Re: FRP Update - (9-3-2015) - Days of Present Ends

« Last post by cmdrkoenig67 on January 14, 2019, 09:10:25 PM »

Yay, thanks Prev!

Dana

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Film, Television, Video and Music Discussion / Re: DC Extended Universe

« Last post by daglob on January 14, 2019, 03:49:45 PM »

I think in the '60s someone raised the question in a letter column, and the possibility that the chemicals that Lex was exposed to actually changed his personality was discussed. This was probably never mentioned in the stories, but the Lexor series showed that Lex's main problem was that he hated Superman (and, by extension, everything he stood for), but that even that hate would not keep Lex from actually sacrificing himself to help the people of Lexor. Then they blew Lexor up, with Superman watching and Superman was like "Gee, a planet blew up just like Krypton. That's too bad. Oh well, places to go...".

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Film, Television, Video and Music Discussion / Re: Young Justice

« Last post by Tomato on January 14, 2019, 02:40:32 PM »

Spoiler tags guys. Again, people haven't seen any of season 3 yet, and you're discussing that material specifically.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I think there's a difference between "the League couldn't help officially" and "we did nothing at all." There IS still the team, whose entire purpose is to do the stuff the League can't. I definitely stinks that they couldn't send the heavy hitters in officially, but that's WHY Batman makes the case that he does: Being in the public eye was useful to a point, but their enemies have used it to cripple them.

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Film, Television, Video and Music Discussion / Re: Young Justice

« Last post by HarryTrotter on January 14, 2019, 01:21:53 PM »

Your saying they should just leave a few thousand people to die?

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Film, Television, Video and Music Discussion / Re: Young Justice

« Last post by kkhohoho on January 14, 2019, 12:59:48 PM »

Did I mention this version of Justice League sucks?
"The UN sanctioned us,we couldnt even help with the tsunami thing"
This coming from Oliver Queen of all people.

So you're saying they should ignore what the UN says and do whatever the hell they want? Even though that could risk a conflict between the League and the UN that could have global and perhaps drastic repercussions?