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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2009, 07:27:57 AM »
I remember that storyline, for a brief moment I thought marvel was bringing back Ben (Scarlet Spider) Riley, my favorite web-slinger.

As I'm living in such an isolated area, it's great to have someone reviewing books. I think I'll try a few of the ones you've mentioned.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2009, 10:45:54 PM »
Yeah, I'm not that impressed with X-Infernus, it's really not that great. It has a very strong encompassing feel of 'meh'. It also doesn't feel like enough is happening for a 4 issue mini.

Also Phil Urich is not the Hobgoblin, he's the Green Goblin. The orange threw you off didn't it? Yeah, I think he's color scheme's pretty awful myself.

In other news, Deadpool is getting a mini series by a different writer, Mike Benson:

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.6625.New_Deadpool_Series_Begins_in_April

I personally find it very hard to get excited about Deadpool these days, which is a shame because I used to love looking forward to his books every month. Well, at least there's Weapon X First Class. Those DP pages that were posted here a while back were great!
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2009, 01:21:16 AM »
Yeah, I'm not that impressed with X-Infernus, it's really not that great. It has a very strong encompassing feel of 'meh'. It also doesn't feel like enough is happening for a 4 issue mini.

I think it'll probably do a bit better in trade form. Maybe. The series doesn't have a lot going on in the first two issues beyond a lot of fighting and colossus angst. Maybe the latter issues will fix this problem.

Also Phil Urich is not the Hobgoblin, he's the Green Goblin. The orange threw you off didn't it? Yeah, I think he's color scheme's pretty awful myself.

Ack, yeah...also, I wrote that before heading out and the first name that popped into mind was hobby. :p. My bad, thanks for telling me. *fixes*

In other news, Deadpool is getting a mini series by a different writer, Mike Benson:

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.6625.New_Deadpool_Series_Begins_in_April

I personally find it very hard to get excited about Deadpool these days, which is a shame because I used to love looking forward to his books every month. Well, at least there's Weapon X First Class. Those DP pages that were posted here a while back were great!

Indeed. I hope this series does well as I dislike the current DP a lot. I'm still trying to figure out what the people who do like it see in it. I mean, there's only so much of DP talking to himself I can take.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2009, 03:12:26 AM »
Picked up Mighty Avengers today.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2009, 05:00:14 AM »
I do a Mighty summary:

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I thought it was an excellent first issue. This feels like the Avengers I've been missing since Busiek left the book. Slott is one of my favorite writers right now, and the art is pretty good with some rough spots. Khoi Pham is all over the place in terms of style though, I can see bits of Cheung, Yu, Copiel, and even JR jr in his work. His pretty new to this though and in a year or so I think he'll be a solid artist.

If you're a Hank Pym fan this book is for you. He's the star of this issue really, and Slott has a good handle on the character. Pym is my favorite Avenger so I'm very happy. Jarvis and Cho also shine in this issue too. Herc doesn't quite speak as I'd expect, seems a little too down to earth. And Slott is actually making me like Jocasta.

I give this issue a 4.5/5 it loses points for heavy use of magic - and I hate magicy stuff. Also the art has some rough spots. I had high expectations for this issue and it matched them.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2009, 07:06:30 AM »
All I'm going to say is, because I haven't read the book, that I've seen pics of Hank's new costume and it looks absolutely idiotic. Bleech.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2009, 09:14:52 AM »
No sumviews this week for me. I think I'm done with those for awhile. *gasp*. Anyway, these are all reviews and some contain spoilers...hence the tags.

Mighty Avengers #21:

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Spider-man Noir #2:

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X-men Legacy #220:

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Astonishing X-men #28:

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Uncanny Annual #2:

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X-men: Manifest Destiny #5:

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Dr. Doom and the Masters of Evil #1:

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Wolverine Origins #32:

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Dark Avengers #1:

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http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19645 - Paul Cornell talks vampires in his next story-arc of CB&MI13

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19556 - Stryfe is back...and X-force may be in trouble!

http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=11571 - Ultimate Spider-man...over?

http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=11630 - Ultimate She-hulk...she exists?!
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2009, 04:13:08 PM »
I loved the UXM Annual, I hated Mighty Avengers ( I just thought it was too on the nose and I am ticked about how the Young Avengers have been treated), I liked Astonishing X-Men and I'm sure I will think Dark Avengers is ok but hate a lot of it secretly.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2009, 06:58:02 PM »
I gotta say that I really like X-Men/Spider-Man.  The artist reminds me of a cross between Golden and Windsor-Smith for some reason.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2009, 07:42:35 PM »
What word of Emma's didn't she keep from Whedon's run on Astonishing?

I think Dark Avengers is weird.  It's basically the premise of the Thunderbolts (from back in the day) - villains (minus Sentry) posing as heros.  Speaking of the Sentry, someone needs to do something about that plot device - because he's not much of a character.  And I forget, is his wife still alive, or was she a skrull?  And really, how stupid are the governments of Marvel Universe?  Norman Osborn doesn't have anyone overseeing this decision to give a team of psychotics free reign?

Manifest Destiny was largely pointless.  I'm so sick of Mystique - I mean, she can look like other people and she'd psychotic, and that's somehow a defence against Iceman, probably one of the most powerful X-men?  She should have been dead & stayed dead after the recent Wolverine storyline, at least for a few years.

Mighty Avengers bugged me too - the Young Avengers have been getting the short end of the stick for some time, the Scarlett Witch is another character I've always hated, and Hank Pym doesn't do much for me either (so this issue's little love-fest for him fell flat).  Hercules & Amadeus Cho weren't nearly as well-written as in Incredible Hercules, and what does USAgent bring to the team - a shield?  Because in what other ways is he like Cap?  At least the Hulk is out from under Loeb's thumb a little, even if he is retconned back into idiocy.  I'm not a big fan of magic super-villains either because it's usually just an excuse for logic & reason to get thrown out the window.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2009, 07:59:33 PM »
What word of Emma's didn't she keep from Whedon's run on Astonishing?

Final arc of his run, and I brought this up in the last thread as well, Emma promised Danger that if it/she helped them, she'd take her/it to Xavier. It didn't happen. Unresolved.

So, Carey picked it back up with Rogue in the place of Emma.

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Manifest Destiny was largely pointless.  I'm so sick of Mystique - I mean, she can look like other people and she'd psychotic, and that's somehow a defence against Iceman, probably one of the most powerful X-men?  She should have been dead & stayed dead after the recent Wolverine storyline, at least for a few years.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2009, 08:00:28 PM »
I think Dark Avengers is weird.  It's basically the premise of the Thunderbolts (from back in the day) - villains (minus Sentry) posing as heros.  Speaking of the Sentry, someone needs to do something about that plot device - because he's not much of a character.  And I forget, is his wife still alive, or was she a skrull?  And really, how stupid are the governments of Marvel Universe?  Norman Osborn doesn't have anyone overseeing this decision to give a team of psychotics free reign?

What what what! Noh Varr isn't a villain. The implies he's done something evil (which he most certainly has not)! Yeah so what he tried to conquer the Earth (he's like the US, we mean well by destroying other people's government but at our core we think we are spreading our awesome ideas!) but he's a young man and like all men his age he was confused when he came into contact with a foreign people).

Ares hasn't been a true villain in a while (since before his mini). Yeah so what he fights with Herc (Havok and Cyke use to fight all the time but neither is seen as villain) and he's killed hundreds if not thousands of people and fought the Avengers (Wolverine has a huge death toll and he's even fought the X-Men a few times) but he's a God and Gods are above good and evil, especially ones who govern over war. I mean come on, Thor fought for the Nazis and no one calls him "evil" which we all know Nazis most certainly were.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2009, 08:05:59 PM »
Norman Osborn doesn't have anyone overseeing this decision to give a team of psychotics free reign?

That's part of Osbourne's plan... He was given the keys of the kingdom for being a "war hero" so he is playing up the fact that he revamped The Avengers under his banner while on the other hand declares the originals are pretenders (or Skrull imposters if he has to push for a "Wanted: Dead Or Alive" warrent for them later). As far as the government and general public know the Thunderbolts are locked away in their cells until he needs the old team in public view again. And by making Venom appear as Spider-Man in public he can unleash him in a crowd against a villian but score revenge points on the real hero by declaring that his unheroic actions are just living up to the "menace" that The Bugle always declared he was. ("My apologies that 34 people were hurt during Spider-Man's battle with Zzax.. HAMMER will make sure the damage is repaired and pay for the medical bills of those injured. He will be punished for his bad decisions during the operation and will be dealt with severly. I will not have anyone on my team acting irresponsible or using bad judgement.")
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2009, 08:43:28 PM »
Even though I enjoyed mighty avengers, I have to agree with those who're saying the Young Avengers are getting the shaft time and again. They're by far my favorite superteam, and I wish somebody would get his act together and bring back their own series.
My youthful idealism, though, gives me hope that perhaps with the return of Wanda, it could lead into a new YA series, or at least more of a spotlight on Wiccan (possibly Hulkling by extension?) and Speed.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2009, 09:53:43 PM »
You're right dude...  like whats up with Young X-men, Nick's Secret Avenger's Avenger's Initiative, etc. when the Young Avengers aren't getting enough page time(screen time, etc)  they're a solid group of characters that took the derivative character and challenged it in an innovative way.  yet they get the shaft again and again... the runaways are like this too.  but i feel they work better in their own continuity.  Young Avengers deserve better.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2009, 09:59:06 PM »
You're right dude...  like whats up with Young X-men, Nick's Secret Avenger's Avenger's Initiative, etc. when the Young Avengers aren't getting enough page time(screen time, etc)  they're a solid group of characters that took the derivative character and challenged it in an innovative way.  yet they get the shaft again and again... the runaways are like this too.  but i feel they work better in their own continuity.  Young Avengers deserve better.

While I have no problem with Secret Avengers (I see them as the Outsiders of Marvel) and Initiative (like the Titan run from the early 2000's old mentors Astro and a few others teaching the noobs about powers but in this case they are force to learn rather than hilarious mishaps that would happen if someone that age had powers), I am a little annoyed with Young X-Men (thank Ares it is canceled). It felt so forced and the cast stunk.

I think the deal with YA is well they are waiting on Allen and Jimmy. It was there baby and hopefully one day they will come back and work on it again.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2009, 03:55:25 AM »
I think the deal with YA is well they are waiting on Allen and Jimmy. It was there baby and hopefully one day they will come back and work on it again.

Yep that's it.
The Young Avengers has been on hold since issue 12 of their series. It is the most annoying and frustrating thing I've probably seen in comics but Marvel decided to wait for Heinberg. In the interim we get little mini-series and guest appearances with little or no development for any of the characters.

But there's hope. Marvel has stated that Heinberg and Cheung are doing a 'Marvel Universe Project' starring the Young Avengers and involving Kang (Iron Lad). Sadly there's no announced timeline on this thing but I'm expecting it in late 2009 to early 2010 (or you know, never). Honestly I'm hoping once it's done that Marvel lets another writer do a new ongoing. Obviously Heinberg is completely unable to work in monthly comics.

So yeah there won't be any true Young Avengers content for a long while.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2009, 04:17:28 AM »
I think Dark Avengers is weird.  It's basically the premise of the Thunderbolts (from back in the day) - villains (minus Sentry) posing as heros.  Speaking of the Sentry, someone needs to do something about that plot device - because he's not much of a character.  And I forget, is his wife still alive, or was she a skrull?  And really, how stupid are the governments of Marvel Universe?  Norman Osborn doesn't have anyone overseeing this decision to give a team of psychotics free reign?

What what what! Noh Varr isn't a villain. The implies he's done something evil (which he most certainly has not)! Yeah so what he tried to conquer the Earth (he's like the US, we mean well by destroying other people's government but at our core we think we are spreading our awesome ideas!) but he's a young man and like all men his age he was confused when he came into contact with a foreign people).

Ares hasn't been a true villain in a while (since before his mini). Yeah so what he fights with Herc (Havok and Cyke use to fight all the time but neither is seen as villain) and he's killed hundreds if not thousands of people and fought the Avengers (Wolverine has a huge death toll and he's even fought the X-Men a few times) but he's a God and Gods are above good and evil, especially ones who govern over war. I mean come on, Thor fought for the Nazis and no one calls him "evil" which we all know Nazis most certainly were.

Well, I guess Noh-varr isn't a villain (I forgot about him in my first post actually), and Ares isn't one anymore (questionable).  The point stands - it's basically the premise of Thunderbolts.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2009, 02:55:42 AM »
I just read X-Factor, and can't say I particularly enjoyed it.  I don't want to spoil it necessarily, but it felt needlessly cruel, and based on a sketchy interpretation of Madrox's powers.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2009, 04:51:19 AM »
I agree that it was cruel, but based on the fact that the opening pages asked us not to spoil this issue, or the next couple issues, I'm really hoping this is leading up to something really interesting, and this is just the tip of it.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2009, 06:00:48 AM »
I find it hilarious that we don't have a DC thread  :lol:

Quickie reviews today:

X-Force:
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Young X-Men:
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Avengers: The Initiative:
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Amazing Spider-Man Extra 2
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2009, 02:25:47 PM »


Well that's my week. How was yours?



I read Nova  :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

I'M NOT HAPPY!!!!!

They have 1 issue to rectify this, or there will be a new Marvel invasion series. Vertex invades the Marvel offices!
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2009, 06:22:19 PM »
So umm.... something happened in Nova?
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2009, 04:55:57 PM »
I just read Incredible Hercules this week, and...did Marvel just kill Wonder Woman?

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2009, 05:06:26 AM »
So I finally got around to reading Deadpool #6. What took so long, right?

I loved it. I "lol'd" about 3-5 times. True Story.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2009, 05:31:28 AM »
They have 1 issue to rectify this, or there will be a new Marvel invasion series. Vertex invades the Marvel offices!

Based on the fact that Nova and Darkhawk are going to tie into "War Of Kings" I'm pretty sure that things will work out for the better in the end... however previews of upcoming covers are showing that Nova is going on a slight detour after the aftermath of the upcoming issue before he enters the big battle.

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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2009, 12:01:23 PM »
Am I really that needed to keep this thread afloat?

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Bottom line: Pass on this issue. It’s really not worth it. 1.5 out of 5. The art kind of saves it…but then again, this was billed as double sized which is a bit misleading. The story is regular size with a bunch of extra stuff (previews) thrown in.

New Exiles #18:

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I…I just don’t know what to make of this…so…0 out of 5. Very disappointing…even for Claremont. Explosive final issue my butt. I recommend that you avoid this book like you’d avoid a virus.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2009, 04:19:47 PM »
I read some books yesterday, but I'll just do quicky reviews

Young X-Men
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Story is about as good as you can get with this title. Nothing too outrageous like Phoenix Ink but it's nothing special. I really liked the art though. Sandoval does the present day scenes and Acuna does the future. Both do a great job.
3/5

X-Factor
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Art's good, story is ok, it's the type of thing you should expect out of X-Factor.
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2009, 04:11:09 AM »
X-Men Kingbreaker 3
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Re: The Marvel Thread
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2009, 05:27:04 AM »
Why is Morgan Le Fay mad at Dr. Doom?  I'm not really sure.

For the last few years Doom had been seeing Morgan romantically and it was hardly noticed by readers who didn't recognize her right off the bat. Apparently Doom was using her to get access to her spellbooks and her inside knowledge of magics that he never really tried to harness for himself before plus it was a great place to hide out and crash while he was planning to take back his kingdom. Now Morgan figured out she was being used and he never planned on keeping his promises to her when he reappeared as part of the Cabal.. and "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".

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