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Girl Genius thread
« on: October 18, 2010, 01:31:39 PM »
I know there are fans, so let's discuss...

Today's comic:
I vas wondering about him...

On the character in question (spoiler):
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BTW: have you guys seen the art reveal about Zeetha's dad?  It's outside the comic and the page is down now (durn) but there are refs in the wiki. 
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 03:44:42 PM »
Higgs is definitely more than he seems to be, but the question of what and how remains to be seen.

I have a couple of theories:

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One way or the other, I do suspect we'll find out how much more dangerous he really is.  Zola really picked the wrong crew to mess with, even if she is turning out to be more formidable than she first appeared to be.  If Zeetha survives, I suspect there will be a rematch some time down the road.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 04:22:47 PM »
Glad to see this thread here, especially since I usually avoid forums dedicated to webcomics I read- usually too many people completely missing the point of the latest installment, or focusing entirely on the least interesting (to me) aspects...

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At this point, I'm wondering if
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Fear the "Neigh"!!!

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 05:13:53 PM »
I'm hoping for "c" myself Alaric.  

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Viking... I mean BlueBard...
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(like how the heck did I mis-attribute the comment like that?  Viking hadn't even posted yet?  Psychic flash?  nah.)



« Last Edit: October 18, 2010, 08:58:45 PM by Glitch Girl »
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 05:20:48 PM »
I had not known there were any such art reveals about Zeetha's dad, GG.  Up until now, I had only ever accessed the website for the comic, and hadn't thought to look in other places for news and previews about Girl Genius.

And on the character in question (spoiler):

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 06:46:32 PM »
Yeah, Viking, I kind of think that too. After all, Vole nor Jenka look less like "standard" Jaegers than anyone except the generals. In the GG newsgroup human/Jaeger hybrids have been considered. I wonder...

Plus, he healed up from massive trauma in just a couple of days.

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 07:23:11 PM »
After today's strip, I *needed* a thread to converse in.

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 07:30:20 PM »
I'm hoping for "c" myself Alaric.  

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Viking...
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Preferentially, I'm hoping for C, as well...

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I'm pretty sure you meant to address that last part to BlueBard, rather than Viking.

Have some more to say, but first, I think we need to establish some rules about spoilers. Can we assume that people reading this thread are already Girl Genius readers, and restrict the use of "spiler" tags to very recent things some people may not have had a chance to read yet, or should we continue "spoiler"-ing most of what we say?

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 07:53:42 PM »
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I'm pretty sure you meant to address that last part to BlueBard, rather than Viking.
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As to spoilers, yeah I think anything older than a week or two should be considered spoiler-safe.  Sound good?
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 08:32:09 PM »
Fascinating stuff guys.  I really love this series, and I have to say, I haven't thought about the possibilities that y'all have mentioned.  I had been thinking that:

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2010, 09:26:27 PM »
Also, Zeetha shows up in a future episode. Perhaps a little Jaeger transfusion will help her.

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 09:56:59 PM »
GG, I'm looking at the strip you referenced and I think you might be reading too much into what Higgs said there.

He didn't say that he, personally, remembered Igneous Heterodyne.  He was simply reminding the Castle/Muse of an event that happened.  We don't really know how he knows this, but it's definitely more knowledge than a simple airship sailor ought to know.

What else do we know about Higgs?

- He is not a pilot or navigator, but was still able to set course for Mechanicsburg in an airship.
- He apparently survived an attack by DuPree while trying to save the Baron's life, twice, and managed to beat her.
- He sustained massive injuries while trying to get the Baron to safety.
- He is next seen at Mama Gnika's, where Gil was healed of serious injuries with Jager Battledrought.
- Gil drafts him into carrying 'The Hat'.
- He single-handedly defeats the Castle/Muse, while demonstrating some understanding of it's construction.
- The Castle/Muse recognizes Higgs somehow
- Higgs demonstrates some knowledge of the Castle layout, claiming he saw a map.
- Higgs and Zeetha start to bond, a little

I don't think he's a Jager.  It doesn't quite add up.  What it does add up to, I'm not sure.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2010, 12:49:10 AM »
I don't think he's 100% Jager, but there are definitely Jagerishness in him.  According to this comic, a Heterodyne drank from the Dyne and got very Jager-like.  Later Vlad Heterodyne (I'm assuming the surname)  came up with the Jagerdraught and pretty much anything that got long term exposure to the Dyne started getting all tough and toothy. 

Also, some factoids from the author's 2008 San Diego Comics con panel. (at the end after the masquerade pics)
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4) When someone becomes a Jšger the only thing that changes about them is their appearance. They still have human genetics so when a Jšger reproduces, his offspring will be 100% human.

5) Ages! The generals are somewhere between 600-700 years old, Dimo is about 300, and Oggie and Maxim are around 250-300. Maxim is the youngest of the three. Phil has the exact ages written down somewhere but he couldn't remember off the top of his head.

7) Only the very best & strongest soldiers were chosen to become Jagers.
So if you survive the Jagerization, you can live a very long time, and if you were selected, you had already proved you were one of the  best, which could mean lots of training or if you survived the process, plenty of time to learn new things. 

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2010, 02:41:52 AM »
I missed that hint.  Interesting.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2010, 01:15:03 PM »
Pinky's gonna be black and blue by the time Higgs gets done with her...
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 01:45:55 PM »
Yeah, even though she got a hit on him, she's taking the worst of this fight.  At this point, I wouldn't be that surprised if the a) dies (especially when the Moveit wears off) or b) ends up with permanent damage.

I wonder how bad Higgs' wound is.

EDIT: Scratch that "dies" bit.  I forgot she's got a piece of the Other in her head.  We're probably not done with that plot point yet.

Now I wonder how many "Others" are out there.  We know of at least three I think, could there be more?
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2010, 03:17:15 PM »
Now I wonder how many "Others" are out there.  We know of at least three I think, could there be more?

Well, if any of them wear dark suits and shades, and make a menacing reference to "Mr. Anderson," that would probably be a dead giveaway... Oh, wait.  I'm thinking of The Matrix movies.  But the Other's ability to replicate her consciousness in multiple entities is reminding me of Mr. Smith, for some odd reason.

In any event, I'm completely expecting (or at least fervently hoping) that Pinky survives with some severe humiliation.  Her usefulness as a plot point has not fully played out yet:

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Higgs' wound is nothing.  He's probably had worse from shaving.

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2010, 01:01:17 PM »
Aaaaaannnd... we cut away from the action.  Argh.

You know, even though it's only been a few hours, maybe days for our heroes, it's been about three YEARS for us viewers since Agatha entered the castle.  Wow.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2010, 01:24:27 PM »
Aaaaaannnd... we cut away from the action.  Argh.

You know, even though it's only been a few hours, maybe days for our heroes, it's been about three YEARS for us viewers since Agatha entered the castle.  Wow.

You've got to admit, though... Team Foglio is keeping us hooked.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2010, 01:02:57 PM »
As of today, volume 11 begins.

"Nom nom..." heh heh heh.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 02:14:34 PM »
And hey, we're back to the action!

I also chuckled at the "Nom Nom" noises.  Do you think that iconic munching sound was originated by Cookie Monster, or does it go back farther than that?  Because truly, few things could make me smile like Cookie Monster's enthusiastic "OMM NOMM NOMM NOMM!!!" noises.

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2010, 04:31:51 AM »
I'd considered Higgs to be a sophisticated construct like Punch and Judy or Von Pinn, but the Jagersomething hypothesis has some merit.

So Agatha and Lola have the Other, who/what/where is the third?
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2010, 07:44:58 AM »
When Von Pinn gets mad she gets Jaegerteeth; perhaps there is a variation of the Jaegerbrau given to some constructs (or built in) that makes them look fairly innocuous most of the time. But if they get angry, well, to paraphrase someone, you wouldn't like them when they're angry.

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2010, 12:29:39 PM »
So Agatha and Zola have the Other, who/what/where is the third?
She was downloaded into Anvenka by Tarvek way back here.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2010, 12:32:54 PM »
I'd considered Higgs to be a sophisticated construct like Punch and Judy or Von Pinn, but the Jagersomething hypothesis has some merit.

So Agatha and Lola have the Other, who/what/where is the third?

Prince Tarvek of Sturmhalten had a robotic "sister," whose consciousness was replaced with that of the Other.  Being a robotic construct, she also outfitted her vocal projectors to be able to mimic Agatha Heterodyne's voice, which prompts a Pavlovian-like obedience in most of the populace of Sturmhalten.

Eh.  GG responded more succinctly and quickly than I could.

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2010, 02:33:20 PM »
Today's strip... Ouch?

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Sorry Viking.  Timing is everything.  :)
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2010, 02:53:43 PM »
My guess is ...

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Beyond that, there are so many threads hanging that it's hard to say what will happen next.  Gil and Tarvek will want to stop Zola, of course, and Zola's fixation on Gil should give him an edge.  Don't forget that Othar Trygvassen is still loose in the Castle somewhere and may put in an appearance.  On top of that, the Baron is likely to attack the Castle soon.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2010, 03:19:06 PM »
Please remember that he is The Unstoppable Higgs.

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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2010, 04:19:28 PM »
Please remember that he is The Unstoppable Higgs.

I remember he had to be patched up the last time he took this much abuse.  Impalement will ruin most people's day.  Not that he won't recover, but he's not going to be the one who takes Zola down.
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Re: Girl Genius thread
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2010, 05:34:39 PM »
I dunno... I have a growing feeling that Higgs is this universe's equivalent of Chuck Norris.

Higgs does not take damage from being impaled by a sword.  The sword takes damage from impaling Higgs.  And then probably apologizes afterwards.

The only way Higgs could possibly be more unstoppable would be if he had a beard, so that one could joke: There is no chin behind Higgs' beard.  There is only another fist.