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Started by B A D, August 10, 2011, 04:50:53 PM

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JeyNyce

I'm looking forward to the new Scooby Doo book.  It's a cross between Scooby Doo and The Walking Dead

http://www.polygon.com/comics/2016/1/28/10858874/scooby-apocalypse-dc-comics-hanna-barbera
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HarryTrotter

Yes,cancel those fans and critics liked!At this point Im sure DC is trying to commit suicide.
-Then again its Rich Johnson-so its probably isnt entirely true.Writer X,come on...
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kkhohoho

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/dc-comics-rebirth-a-new-justice-society-of-america-ongoing-title-to-launch/

According to Bleeding Cool, DC's bringing back the Justice Society back. And no, it has nothing to do with Earth 2; this will apparently be a bonafide main Earth 'Fought in WWII' JSA. Mind you, it might just be BS as there's no official evidence yet, but a part of me is wishing SOOOOOOOOO hard that this is true. The JSA is one of my favorite Superteams of all time, and I'd be stoked to see them get another book in the main DCU.

Also, new Doom Patrol: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/gerard-way-and-becky-cloonans-doom-patrol-being-revived/

The Golden Age; 'A different look at a different era.'

http://archiveofourown.org/works/1089779/chapters/2193203

BentonGrey

I might actually read a 40s or 50s era JSA book free of the toxic main continuity of the NDCU.  I could totally get behind that.
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kkhohoho

Quote from: BentonGrey on February 03, 2016, 01:51:50 AM
I might actually read a 40s or 50s era JSA book free of the toxic main continuity of the NDCU.  I could totally get behind that.

Uh, about that:

QuoteBut now, not only will this active team of superheroes be revealed, along with an explanation as to why no one remembers them, but they will be brought forward, young, to the present days, fishes out of water, fighting alongside the Justice League of America.

So, they still fought in WWII, but they'll be transported to the present day from the 40's. Which, considering that the previous JSA series took place day in the present day and was still awesome,  I don't have much of a problem with. What I might have a problem with is that this implies that they'll be mainly using the 40's&50's JSA'ers as opposed to the ones from the 90's&00's series (which if you haven't read yet Benton, you owe it to yourself to do so; trust me on this,), but if it goes on long enough, maybe they'll bring in the 90's&00's crew later on. A man can dream...
The Golden Age; 'A different look at a different era.'

http://archiveofourown.org/works/1089779/chapters/2193203

GhostMachine

The one thing I hated most about the DC reboot was them wiping out the original JSA and replacing it with all new characters with the same names and nothing else. Especially since Jay Garrick is my favorite Flash and Alan Scott my favorite Green Lantern.




BentonGrey

Well, there goes my interest.

Kk, I've read a bit of those stories, and I've certainly enjoyed them.  They're in an era I don't much care for, though.  They are on my list, nonetheless.
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HarryTrotter

Agree with KK here,JSA by James Robinson(he was still good back then) and Geoff Johns is one of DCs greatest series ever.Continuing Justice Society series was also pretty good until Johns left.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

daglob

Quote from: kkhohoho on February 03, 2016, 01:21:21 AM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/dc-comics-rebirth-a-new-justice-society-of-america-ongoing-title-to-launch/

According to Bleeding Cool, DC's bringing back the Justice Society back. And no, it has nothing to do with Earth 2; this will apparently be a bonafide main Earth 'Fought in WWII' JSA. Mind you, it might just be BS as there's no official evidence yet, but a part of me is wishing SOOOOOOOOO hard that this is true. The JSA is one of my favorite Superteams of all time, and I'd be stoked to see them get another book in the main DCU.

Also, new Doom Patrol: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/gerard-way-and-becky-cloonans-doom-patrol-being-revived/

That doesn't look like the Doom Patrol I grew up with. It doesn't look like John Byrne's, either.

cmdrkoenig67

Quote from: daglob on February 03, 2016, 11:50:20 PM
Quote from: kkhohoho on February 03, 2016, 01:21:21 AM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/dc-comics-rebirth-a-new-justice-society-of-america-ongoing-title-to-launch/

According to Bleeding Cool, DC's bringing back the Justice Society back. And no, it has nothing to do with Earth 2; this will apparently be a bonafide main Earth 'Fought in WWII' JSA. Mind you, it might just be BS as there's no official evidence yet, but a part of me is wishing SOOOOOOOOO hard that this is true. The JSA is one of my favorite Superteams of all time, and I'd be stoked to see them get another book in the main DCU.

Also, new Doom Patrol: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/gerard-way-and-becky-cloonans-doom-patrol-being-revived/

That doesn't look like the Doom Patrol I grew up with. It doesn't looke like John Byrne's, either.

Ugh....where's Rita, the Chief?  Is that Robotman on the far left and is that supposed to be Negative Man on the far right?  Who are the other two characters (they don't look like Doom Patrol freak material to me)?  We've already seen the Doom Patrol in Justice League and Cliff/Robotman in JLU...why throw another curve ball at the fans of the team?

BentonGrey

Is it just me, or is there something about that image that reeks of hipsters?  I can't put my finger on it...
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kkhohoho

Quote from: cmdrkoenig67 on February 16, 2016, 01:45:34 AM
Quote from: daglob on February 03, 2016, 11:50:20 PM
Quote from: kkhohoho on February 03, 2016, 01:21:21 AM
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/dc-comics-rebirth-a-new-justice-society-of-america-ongoing-title-to-launch/

According to Bleeding Cool, DC's bringing back the Justice Society back. And no, it has nothing to do with Earth 2; this will apparently be a bonafide main Earth 'Fought in WWII' JSA. Mind you, it might just be BS as there's no official evidence yet, but a part of me is wishing SOOOOOOOOO hard that this is true. The JSA is one of my favorite Superteams of all time, and I'd be stoked to see them get another book in the main DCU.

Also, new Doom Patrol: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/02/gerard-way-and-becky-cloonans-doom-patrol-being-revived/

That doesn't look like the Doom Patrol I grew up with. It doesn't looke like John Byrne's, either.

Ugh....where's Rita, the Chief?  Is that Robotman on the far left and is that supposed to be Negative Man on the far right?  Who are the other two characters (they don't look like Doom Patrol freak material to me)?  We've already seen the Doom Patrol in Justice League and Cliff/Robotman in JLU...why throw another curve ball at the fans of the team?

Rita wasn't in the Morrison!Patrol, so as much as I hate to say it, she doesn't actually need to be there. (Even though she should be.) Speaking of which, the girl in the back might be Crazy Jane, though she could also be Rita with a new coat of paint. The guy in the back left could be Mento, judging by the purple glasses. (Purple was a main color for one of his costumes. ) As for the Chief, just because he isn't on the cover doesn't mean he's not in the book. He doesn't actually go out in combat and the like, so I guess the cover artist felt that he didn't need to be on there because of that.
The Golden Age; 'A different look at a different era.'

http://archiveofourown.org/works/1089779/chapters/2193203

HarryTrotter

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dc-announces-full-rebirth-line-twice-monthly-books-lowered-price-point
So basically-Mostly everything will be renumbered as #1 except Action and Detective comics which will go back to original numbering,prices are back at 2.99(so they say).Midnighter and Starfire are canceled.Blue Beetle is back,that's one good news.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

Silver Shocker

Secret Six appears to be cancelled, which I'm sad about, but I was fully expecting. The final issue seems to be the May one.
Johns is leaving Justice League after Darkseid War. Loved his run, it was great, curious who's taking over. There's going to be a new Justice League book and a new JLA, so we'll have to wait and see if it's still Hitch on JLA (who's not drawing it anymore, since he couldn't get it out on time), or someone else.
Johns is doing the DC Rebirth one shot, with art by Van Sciver and Ivan Reis. Dan Didio says the book contains the single most controversial scene in his entire time on DC comics (which is probably saying something). I'm probably going to be picking that one-shot up due to the creative team.
Jim Lee is going to be one of the rotating artists on the new Suicide Squad book, no doubt getting a push due to the movie. I'm curious to see who the writer will be because I might be willing to pick it up based on that.

Depending on the creative teams for the books, I might be picking up no DC titles going forward, which I'm sure is the exact opposite of what DC wants.
"Now you know what you're worth? Then go out and get what you're worth, but you gotta be willing to take the hits. And not pointing fingers, saying you're not where you want to be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that, and THAT AIN'T YOU. YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!"
~Rocky Balboa

kkhohoho

Quote from: Silver Shocker on February 25, 2016, 03:21:54 AM

Depending on the creative teams for the books, I might be picking up no DC titles going forward, which I'm sure is the exact opposite of what DC wants.

If they're actually putting out that rumored JSA book, I might pick that up, (since the JSA is one of my favorite Superteams and all,) but other than that, I'd be picking up just as many DC titles as I currently do: 0. ;)
The Golden Age; 'A different look at a different era.'

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HarryTrotter

''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

HarryTrotter

''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

JeyNyce

I'm surprise nobody mention this.  This is kinda big news:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeclvTBvADI

Skip the first 30 mins and then the show starts
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HarryTrotter

#1039

Just to mention this teaser.
http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/134884-wondercon-dc-reveals-details-of-rebirth-afterbirth-at-anticipated-press-conference.html
Outhouse has a play-by-play.
-All Star Batman by Scott Snyder and JR Jr.
-Dan Jurgens on Action comics
-Greg Rucka back writing Wonder Woman
-Dan Abnett on Titans
-Christopher Priest on Deathstroke(that's really interesting)
-Blue Beetle by Keith Giffen
I was wrong before,but this looks promising.  :cool:
On the other hand:
-no sign of Wildstorm
-Scott Lobdell
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

bat1987

Already saw the new batsuit in issue 50 and I like it. Much fewer lines than the new 52 suit, belt and symbol will take some time getting use to, but it's something new, they could have just gone with plain black symbol and yellow belt, I like that they went with something different. Superman and Wonder Woman are more or less their movie costumes and I think they both look great. Ideally supes would have yellow belt and full red boots, but this looks good as well IMO.

Silver Shocker

That's a sweet teaser but I've gotta say it:

I hate Damien and Superboy's new costumes. Damien's looks way too busy (at least in this image) and Superboy looks like he's at least 10 years younger than he was before.

Also, Geoff Johns and Jason Fabok have confirmed that we, the audience, will learn the Joker's real name in Justice League #50.
I've been loving Darkseid War (when in the world is the next issue coming out? It feels like it's been forever) but I'm iffy on this. I'm not sure we need to know the Joker's name and if it's got plot significance or reveals something different about the character it risks mucking around with the character's history.

Now, on the topic of the Joker's history:

Post-Crisis, but Pre-Flashpoint, there was a sequence in the second Robin miniseries, Robin II: Joker's Wild, where Joker's goons break Joker out of Arkham by disguising one of them as his mother and visiting him. The staff accepts "her" as The Joker's mother, which always made me think "Does that mean they have the Joker's name and next of kin on record?" We never find out, and that's story's probably non canon in New 52.

Here's some canonical factoids I gleaned from the DC wiki:

-According to Scott Snyder's run: "Even before becoming the Joker, his DNA was not available on any records." Similar to the lack of DNA or fingerprints on file in The Dark Knight
-One of his multiple choice origins (as told in a Villains month Joker point-one issue) was that he had an abusive relative who bleached his face (again, similar to one in the Dark Knight)
-Scott Snyder's Batman arc "Endgame" apparently had a number of possible details about the Joker's origin. As I've not read that story line yet but plan to in the near future, I'm going to absolve from reading any spoilers on it. I did however have one spoiled when it came out, which was an especially bizarre origin I'm pretty sure I hate.

"Now you know what you're worth? Then go out and get what you're worth, but you gotta be willing to take the hits. And not pointing fingers, saying you're not where you want to be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that, and THAT AIN'T YOU. YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!"
~Rocky Balboa

HarryTrotter

#1042
Actually,this Superboy is Jon Kent,Pre-Flashpoint Superman's son(If I got everything right).So he is 10 years younger.
-About Jokers identity,this is kinda similar to Phantom Stranger situation.It would be better if they didnt tell us.There needs to be some mystery.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

Silver Shocker

re: Superboy: oh ok, didn't know that. Cool.

re: Joker: I think I agree with you. To give context: I saw The 1989 Tim Burton as a kid, where Joker was gangster Jack Napier and killed Batman's parents, and I didn't know any better. I didn't know the comics, so I didn't know that Burton et all added that part. So when I saw Batman TAS I was like "Why does Batman not hate the Joker? Didn't he kill his parents?" (muddling the issue is that TAS had an easter egg reference to the name "Jack Napier" as Joker, in, iirc, the episode "Joker's Wild"). So of course later on I learned about The Killing Joke, and the older stories that influenced it, and later read TKJ (which I still love, despite the fridging of Barbara) and that was my understanding of Joker.

There's a number of ways you can look at it. Since I loved Heath Ledger's take on Joker in The Dark Knight, where he was, simply put, a terrorist, and an anarchist (which he calls himself), I think the Joker is scarier and more unpredictable when you don't know where he comes from.

Now once again, Post-Crisis but Pre-Flashpoint, there's a fill in issue of the Morrison/Mark Waid era JLA where Martian Manhunter and Spectre look inside the mind of the Joker and MM is shocked to see the Joker visualized as a happy, well-mannered Jimmy Stewart style father figure in a comfy armchair by a fireplace. Impossible! How could have the Joker have a good, pure man buried deep inside? Because he's just a man, a human being, but one who went crazy like most of Batman's villains. So while I like being have a vague backstory, the one thing I think should be rock solid is he's a normal human being, not something supernatural.
"Now you know what you're worth? Then go out and get what you're worth, but you gotta be willing to take the hits. And not pointing fingers, saying you're not where you want to be because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that, and THAT AIN'T YOU. YOU'RE BETTER THAN THAT!"
~Rocky Balboa

HarryTrotter

IIRC Batman TAS also had a minor case of multiple past with Joker.In one episode he has a grudge with a comedy club because hes a failed comedian,but in Mask of Phantasm he was a hitman for the mafia.
There was actually a lot of stuff I missed in BTAS as a kid,like an episode that (sorta) adapted Dark Knight Returns.
Going a bit off topic here...
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

daglob

#1045
I can imagine The Joker giving a list of "relatives" as a contingency plan to get him out of jail. At least, I can imagine an earlier incarnation of The Joker doing that.

"Why, yes, my real name is Ormond Sacker, my mother's name is Egatherine, my father Hephaestus."

Then there was the story where Batman met The Joker's brother, a man named Repain, or something like that.

But, no, we don't need to know The Joker's real name. But it won't matter: next reboot it will change.

Although... the only thing that will really make me mad is if his last name is Wayne...

Joker: "I am your father."

Batman: "NNnnnooooooooo..."

HarryTrotter

They already did that 2-3 times,so it wouldnt suprise me if they repeat the same twist.
''Even our origin stories have gone sour.''
Jon Farmer

GhostMachine

Iirc, there was a comic with the Joker's nephew in it, and he almost called Joker by his real name, only to be interrupted. The first letter, which is all he got to say, was a J.


kkhohoho

Quote from: GhostMachine on March 28, 2016, 08:33:32 PM
Iirc, there was a comic with the Joker's nephew in it, and he almost called Joker by his real name, only to be interrupted. The first letter, which is all he got to say, was a J.

So, the Joker's real name is Joker? ;)
The Golden Age; 'A different look at a different era.'

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spydermann93

Quote from: kkhohoho on March 28, 2016, 10:45:22 PM
Quote from: GhostMachine on March 28, 2016, 08:33:32 PM
Iirc, there was a comic with the Joker's nephew in it, and he almost called Joker by his real name, only to be interrupted. The first letter, which is all he got to say, was a J.

So, the Joker's real name is Joker? ;)

It's actually "Joseph Curr".