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Author Topic: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!  (Read 17236 times)

Offline HarryTrotter

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LOL. Especially for Marvel!  ;-)
Its harder to find some differences really.
Umm... Hello? You live in a world where mythical beings, super-powered humans, sorcerers, aliens, and so on do battle at a scale that no one could really have missed. Please don't tell me that no one could possibly believe that there's a nefarious group hoping to use dark magic in New York City.
More like in a adjacent parasitic dimension.Rath to MCU's Dominaria.
But at least they didn't hammer in pointless references to the movies this time,I can respect that.
We just finished episode 3.  We're enjoying it, but it so far hasn't entirely wowed me.  I'm willing to be impressed.

I do have to say this, though.:
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He gets a bit better later on.
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I think the series itself acknowledges that Danny Rand is pretty stupid and immature,in a number of occasions
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My only consolation on his case(beside Colleen Wing) is trying to think of him as the  Michelangelo of the team through Danny=brat X10. Perhaps it would be better if he and Luke would share a series together,I dont know.

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So I just finished it. I thought it was pretty good. Not my favorite of these shows but not bad.

I'll agree with that Ra' Al Ghul joke. I did think of League of Assassins/Shadows during the series.

The earliest episodes did feel like a fair amount of buildup, it actually reminded me of the first half hour or so of the first Avengers movie in that regard. Re introduce the various characters one by one and eventually get them to meet.

I think the key element is that seeing the main cast play off each other was fun. Unfortunately I failed to notice the creative color coding others did (Now I really wish I'd caught that!) but that's a nice touch.

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Having finished it...it was okay.
In theory,Hand should be interesting(being a ninja death cult),but in reality they are a ninja death cult and that's not very interesting.If that makes sense.The most threatening member of the Hand is the guy tied to a chair.Anyway,
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from now on,and all the better for it.
8 episodes instead of 13 should have helped with the pacing,but it doesn't.Im okay with the spontaneous build up to the actual team up,but then episodes 5-7 end up being a long sting of conversation along the lines of:
-I got to go save the world
-But Im worried...

We didn't really need all the satellite characters from the previous shows.Whenever Misty Knight shows up to deliver stock NYPD dialogue,you can sense the molecules of the show stopped moving.But,
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so at least that opens some possibilities in the future.
They really need Bullseye in season 3 of Daredevil.
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I actually heard an interesting theory on how Bullseye could be worked in based on a scene from the final episode and how season 2 left Kingpin.

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Silver Shocker, about Sigourney Weaver references, did you catch the one in i think the first or second episode when she went to the hospital? She made a kind of pose against the glass that reminded me of Aliens... or was it me remembering Sarah Connor in T2 with a pose like that?

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #396 on: September 01, 2017, 06:58:35 AM »
In case anyone got to the end of The Defenders and were left a little curious...

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #397 on: September 01, 2017, 12:09:43 PM »
Nice! Can't wait.

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #398 on: September 02, 2017, 02:42:40 PM »
Ah, the long, mechanical, arm of the law. ;-)
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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #399 on: September 03, 2017, 01:55:37 PM »
I was surprised that they got one realistic detail right.  Namely, that little patch with the wire on her should.  That's how real bionic arms actually work.  Somebody did some research.
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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #400 on: October 21, 2017, 05:47:12 PM »
Is Punisher delayed or something?Im hearing a lot about that,but cant find anything solid.
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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #401 on: October 21, 2017, 07:35:52 PM »
Is Punisher delayed or something?Im hearing a lot about that,but cant find anything solid.

The final Punisher trailer was just released a few days ago.. official Netflix release date is November 17th, 2017. :D

Plans were for an earlier release during the New York Comic Con but the tragedy in Las Vegas had Marvel/Netflix delay it and replan how they would promote it (since they wouldn't have a comic con cast panel).

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #402 on: October 22, 2017, 06:15:03 AM »
Yeah,thats why I was asking.
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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #403 on: November 17, 2017, 05:26:41 PM »
Punisher seems to be going for a slow psychological drama.Also,everyone has a habit of expositing their stances on various topics.
Im guessing "they want to take our guns" guy is forshadowing something.
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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #404 on: November 17, 2017, 06:06:27 PM »
Punisher seems to be going for a slow psychological drama.Also,everyone has a habit of expositing their stances on various topics.
Im guessing "they want to take our guns" guy is forshadowing something.

Yeah I'm an episode in and I thought that was a little odd...

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I mean Id mind less if it was in context but so far it just seems like the script want to just make it more topical than it needs to be.

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #405 on: November 18, 2017, 08:00:41 AM »
Also,everyone has a habit of expositing their stances on various topics.
I haven't started the show yet, but that has me pre-cringing.
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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #406 on: November 18, 2017, 10:44:49 AM »
First episode has a very speed-dating system of introducing new characters where they just come in an make a speech that spells out who they are.Ah,I get it,this is the tough,not-really-PC police captain. :)
It feels a bit forced.
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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #407 on: November 20, 2017, 07:34:24 PM »
Okay, I finished The Punisher earlier this moring and I gotta be honest, this is probably top 3 MCU/Nerflix shows.  Personally I liked it more than all save for Luke Cage.  As it holds up as a series, it's up there with Daredevil's first season and Luke Cage, rivaling Jessica Jones.  Thought it was a strong entry that had a good narrative but certain parts of the character and unfortunately personal agendas stop it from being better.

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #408 on: November 21, 2017, 11:23:10 AM »
You would assume there are enough topics to work with in the material without adding a few more...
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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #409 on: November 29, 2017, 04:03:37 PM »
So I did finish this a week or so ago, and I quite enjoyed it. It's the Netflix MCU show I've enjoyed the most since Daredevil and JJ (not even the Defenders hit those highs for me). I Thought Berenthal was great but I thought he was great in DD so that wasn't a huge surprise. I thought story wise it was a pretty well handled starring feature story for this version of the character. Yes it was very topical but considering Punisher was introduced as a more shellshocked vet version of the character I felt it was appropriate and made sense, even if some of it was a little clunky. A lot of it was buildup, so you didn't always see Punisher action but when you did, the violence was glorious.

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #410 on: November 29, 2017, 05:15:10 PM »
I finished the punisher a few days ago too, but my feelings are mixed up(which was not the case on daredevil s1,or jessica jones as I BINGEWATCH those furiously without second thought)I definitely disagree on the imdb review that sets it above all the rest mcu/netflix shows.
I am not against the way his origin was handled. I think it serves for a more grounded(and political) approach of the character, without changing his bases dramatically, overall fits the mcu/netflix background,though I d like more of it.
I am definitely on with the self-blame part due to the origin changes.
I am a bit mixed about the overall pacing, and the punisher switch that goes on and off trough the series.
I like the newly introduced characters, I enjoyed micro and his background+chemistry with Frank and I want to see more of Dinah and where that goes(hopefully on daredevil or sooner on jessica jones) while I liked the use of the old(I think Karen was spot on) too.
Enjoyed the villains and where that goes even if some origins where changed, I think it was well handed.
MAJOR LETDOWN for me was the aesthetic aspect of the series, overall and most basically on the music part.
I am not an enemy of blues or anything, and I enjoyed seeing Castle knowing how to handle a guitar(or a book :P )
BUT when it comes to the punisher I expect some epic dramatic opera, a menacing hymn to vengeance and nothing less.
I think that was done better on the past portrayals of the character in the movies
and that was done perfect on (the full of respect to the source material) video game, which has a terrific soundtrack that just caches the essence of the Punisher !!!(if you havent heared it you should check it out on you tube)

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #411 on: November 29, 2017, 05:31:52 PM »
Yeah I saw a lot of reviews giving Amber Rose Revah a bad rep.  I though Dinah was a good character. An interesting add and a good storyline.  At least IMO.

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Re: Netflix is making Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, AND Jessica Jones shows!
« Reply #412 on: December 04, 2017, 01:11:45 PM »
Honestly, I'm struggling to finish The Punisher.  It's better than Iron Fist, but that's about it.
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« Reply #413 on: December 04, 2017, 06:49:50 PM »
Eh,maybe in season 3...
I still havent finished it,but so far,its a mixed bag.More 24 then Punisher,tbh.
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« Reply #414 on: December 20, 2017, 07:51:35 PM »
In the end,like a lot of comic adaptations in recent times,its just so generic I cant have any feelings about it.Im not sure why its even called Punisher,you could scrape off the name and call it anything you like,its just that bland.
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