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Offline Shogunn2517

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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #570 on: February 09, 2018, 09:11:38 PM »
Okay, Black Panther's coming out next week and we've been getting more and more tidbits about the movie over the last few months.  I just saw something that gave extended clip and dialogue that provided a pretty key plot point of the movie that I don't think has been done before.  Alas, I'm not the biggest BP fan and don't know if this is something that's been done in the comics.... with him.

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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #571 on: February 10, 2018, 12:24:55 AM »
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #572 on: February 14, 2018, 01:57:15 PM »
So I just saw the movie today.  I definitely recommend it! Here are my spoiler free thoughts, but in a spoiler box (then inside another spoiler box will be my spoilers, too).
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #573 on: February 15, 2018, 08:26:04 AM »
In the comic (at least things I read),he has Batman-esque kevlar costume.And in the realm of fiction kevlar=magical force field.So there is that. :)
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« Reply #574 on: February 16, 2018, 10:48:40 PM »
This will trigger some people but I cant help but notice...there is a lot of hype about Black Panther being the FIRST movie about a black superhero.Did Marvel forgot they mad 3 Blade movies,almost 20 years ago?
Only one was good,but thats neither here nor there.
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« Reply #575 on: February 16, 2018, 11:45:25 PM »
I have heard that pointed out elsewhere, actually. I wonder if it's supposed to be the first African superhero as opposed to African American. Even if you ignored Blade, there's also Catwoman (since it starred Halle Berry), Spawn (since Al Simmons was a black man before he became Spawn) and some other more obscure films such as Meteor Man and Blank Man (though both of those were comedies).

In any case, did you mean Blade 1 or Blade 2?
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #576 on: February 17, 2018, 12:48:24 AM »
Or the fact that Comet Man and Steel happened before then...

Or that Shaft (perhaps the first black "superhero" on screen) came even beforehand...
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« Reply #577 on: February 17, 2018, 12:56:22 AM »
Or the fact that Comet Man and Steel happened before then...

Or that Shaft (perhaps the first black "superhero" on screen) came even beforehand...

I think we're *all* trying to forget that Steel happened.....   :ooh
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« Reply #578 on: February 17, 2018, 12:59:31 AM »
The other was Meteor Man...not Comet Man, my mistake.
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #579 on: February 17, 2018, 06:19:13 AM »
My thoughts:

First of all, three of the four of my most favorite things are social politics, boxing and comics and that's pretty much Ryan Coogler's entire film resume.  Now to be perfectly honest, I was pretty underwhelmed by his first few movies.  Fruitvale Station was okay, but it just seem really weirdly cut.  Creed was extra long and all over the place and I really wish it just did what Rocky did and "paint-by-the-numbers" but it didn't.  So I didn't have high expectations for him directing BP.  And as I suspected, I had some of the same problems here too.  Although I enjoyed every minute, it was still pretty long.  Some parts seemed a little too convenient.

That said, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.  Killmonger was a great villain.  So was Klaue.  The Dora Milaje were awesome.  Shuri was ridiculously adorable!  And T'Challa of course was cast well and done right.  Visually, the movie was stunning.  The underlying message was pretty meaningful and I really dug it.  And from my side of the fence, you can see where his motivations are.  There are some plotholes that bug me, and like I said, there are parts that I definitely would have trimmed, but definitely worth to watch, whether your a fan of the genre or not, it holds up and is entertaining.

Now some of the spoiler stuff:

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Again, it was an overall enjoyable film.  Really hope people don't elect to skip out on this one for whatever reason... particularly since... it's reasonable to want to watch this movie.  As a fan or not.

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« Reply #580 on: February 18, 2018, 12:55:04 AM »
So some of the numbers are in.  Sounds like it's now the 6th best movie for the opening 3 days of all time, and best pre-summer blockbuster period.  It's currently above Civil War and for four days will pass Age of Ultron.  To say it's a major success is putting it mildly.  It looks like some of the reviews put it as the second best of the Marvel films after Winter Soldier, although of course every individual will have very different opinions regarding that.

Still the people behind this film all deserve a huge congratulations.
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #581 on: February 20, 2018, 06:14:21 AM »
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #582 on: February 21, 2018, 05:46:24 PM »
No real spoilers, but just in case

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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #583 on: February 21, 2018, 08:02:26 PM »
I saw Black Panther yesterday, and it's definitely in my top 5 of MCU movies. But, I have two issues:

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« Reply #584 on: February 22, 2018, 08:12:46 AM »
We saw this on opening day and really enjoyed it. I'd say it's a top Marvel film for me. And, while not a laugh-a-minute kind of movie, I thought it had plenty of light moments that left me grinning.

I agree with others that it was long. But, for me, at least, it never really dragged.

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« Reply #585 on: February 22, 2018, 11:23:36 AM »
Stumpy, regarding your point...
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« Reply #586 on: February 23, 2018, 07:56:33 PM »
More time has been devoted to discussing politics of the movie then the movie (kudos to everyone who worked in sh*tholegate into their reviews) and I have to say,its obvious that the politics came before entertaiment on the priority list.And everyone found something to prop up their own narratives.Kinda like with Hunger Games,I guess.
All in all,its a decent enough movie,but not the greatest superhero movie or a landmark achivment it was hyped up to be.
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #587 on: March 02, 2018, 08:12:14 PM »
More time has been devoted to discussing politics of the movie then the movie (kudos to everyone who worked in sh*tholegate into their reviews) and I have to say,its obvious that the politics came before entertaiment on the priority list.And everyone found something to prop up their own narratives.Kinda like with Hunger Games,I guess.
All in all,its a decent enough movie,but not the greatest superhero movie or a landmark achivment it was hyped up to be.

sh*tholegate... gotcha.  I see where you're going...

But I think a lot of the politics were unavoidable, particular from a certain point of view.  Not much contemporary, but the big debate in many of my FB groups is the opposing schools of thought between T'Challa and Killmonger had with black folks and ethnic Africans, taking on a similar theme that Magneto and Professor X have with mutants.  It's a sensible political argument.  Nothing obtrusive, but completely story driven.  But there were a number of narratives that could be played upon.  One of which is it's cultural significance.  I think this movie had an deeper meaning to some just as Wonder Woman did last year.  While each movie were completely entertaining, it was important to see the portrayals that we did.  Not just important for those who were represented, but important for those who don't see or think of seeing these roles filled.

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« Reply #588 on: March 02, 2018, 10:48:49 PM »
Im not going anywhere,New York Times actually worked in that in their review.Im not kidding.
Yeah,about Killmonger,hes not really Magneto,hes more...Hitler.
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« Reply #589 on: March 03, 2018, 01:15:31 AM »
There's also a T-shirt being sold somewhere with a slogan on the front referencing that. I would assume, not an official Marvel product.

Now as for the movie itself, I'd been meaning to say this:

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First of all, three of the four of my most favorite things are social politics, boxing and comics and that's pretty much Ryan Coogler's entire film resume.  Now to be perfectly honest, I was pretty underwhelmed by his first few movies.  Fruitvale Station was okay, but it just seem really weirdly cut.  Creed was extra long and all over the place and I really wish it just did what Rocky did and "paint-by-the-numbers" but it didn't.  So I didn't have high expectations for him directing BP.  And as I suspected, I had some of the same problems here too.  Although I enjoyed every minute, it was still pretty long.  Some parts seemed a little too convenient.

I actually didn't even know he worked on all three of those movies. I guess I didn't really look into who made Creed or Black Panther (though it fits that they all have Micheal B. Jordan).  I myself really enjoyed Creed so it's entirely possible I'll like this more than you did. I can't say for sure until I watch the flick.
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #590 on: March 10, 2018, 06:49:07 PM »
In somewhat related news, pet shelters are starting to report that instead of being picked last as normal, black cats are actually being picked first(and named after characters from the movies) and cat adoptions in general are up since the movie came out.  This was not something that anyone was expecting, but considering that it normally very difficult to get someone to adopt a black cat, it's been seen a good thing.  As you may notice from my avatar, I am very much in favor of dark furred felines.
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« Reply #591 on: March 11, 2018, 02:50:57 AM »
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« Reply #592 on: March 18, 2018, 05:55:42 PM »
Stumpy, regarding your point...
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BTW, my sister took me to see BP and I loved it...One of the best Marvel movies made, IMHO.

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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #593 on: March 21, 2018, 10:05:40 AM »
BTW, there's a pretty MAJOR rumor that has started going around and with the rumors we've been hearing preceding it, it could be pretty meaning for for Avengers: Infinity War and even for ALL of Phase 4 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe thereafter. 

Again, this is a major spoiler so be warned about continued reading....

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Again, keep in mind that last part is a lot of my own theory based on what could VERY POSSIBLY be a mistake or some sort of uninformed writer from Metacritic.  But if Metacritic did unveil something they shouldn't have and this is indeed true, they've might have given a tell for what's to come for Phase 4.  But I dunno.  I've looked online for someone to have put 2 and 2 together like I have and no one has, so I could be really, really wrong... or really, really right.  We'll see.
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« Reply #594 on: March 21, 2018, 11:39:19 AM »
I did hear that rumor, which would be pretty wild if it were true.

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« Reply #595 on: March 21, 2018, 08:28:59 PM »
Yeah, there's that...  But if that were the case, why wouldn't they just say?

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But like I said, BECAUSE they flat out refuse to confirm it(maybe for good reason) it all could be speculation and a glaring mistake.  But at the same time, they're not denying it either.

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« Reply #596 on: March 21, 2018, 08:44:19 PM »
Also it should also be mentioned that back in Civil War, Spider-Man was not only left out of the first trailer he was erased out of much of where he would have been in the actual movie in both trailers.  Until the very end.  Marvel kept his inclusion equally tight-lipped.  Of course he didn't change the direction of the movie or the MCU at all, but it does show a history of them being covert with certain characters.

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« Reply #597 on: March 21, 2018, 09:31:45 PM »
Did Marvel officially announced the cameos such as the ones in Guardians of the Galaxy 2? Because if not, Pip could just be a post-credits gag or something. Marvel, in my experience, likes to keep the post-credit scene cameos a surprise even when they're just for a gag.
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« Reply #598 on: March 21, 2018, 11:04:30 PM »
Regarding this Dinklage speculation and the thematic tie to why Spidey wasn't in the early Civil War trailers... It's been noted on several fan sites that Marvel often does a pretty good job of keeping big movie reveals under wraps until release, particularly in comparison to DC. (I mean, sure, we all knew that Superman was coming back. But, at least have enough respect for suspense to not just show a nominally dead character as alive in the bleeping trailer!) Presumably, that's what happened with Spidey in CW and maybe that's the reason for the silence about Dinklage's role.
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« Reply #599 on: March 26, 2018, 05:21:08 AM »
Deadpool 2 is basicly Terminator (2).Which isnt so bad.
Cable seems spot on,everyone else...not so much.
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