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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #690 on: March 10, 2019, 04:26:04 PM »
Darth Jar-Jar... you have to wonder why that hasn't happened yet.

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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #691 on: March 10, 2019, 05:19:08 PM »
Give Filoni a few years. It took him 3 seasons to get to Ahsoka as a Sith and 4 to get to Darth Maul with robot legs. The very last arc of Clone Wars featured a Sith version of Yoda.
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« Reply #692 on: March 10, 2019, 05:59:27 PM »
Well,there is a Young Avengers film in the works,so this might be related...
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Re: Marvel Movies
« Reply #693 on: March 10, 2019, 10:57:35 PM »
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« Reply #694 on: March 11, 2019, 01:55:02 AM »
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If all the information I've seen and heard pans out the way I'm expecting it to, I'm going to be giddy as a schoolgirl in about a month.
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« Reply #695 on: March 13, 2019, 04:06:08 PM »
Agent Coulson lashes against "dinosaurs" who dont like the movie.  :lol:
Holy funt,is Kathleen Kennedy your PR manager now?
You could have went with : Give the movie a chance,you might be surprised.Or anything else.
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« Reply #696 on: March 13, 2019, 10:39:07 PM »
This was something I was telling a friend of mine on his FB page about the movie. He made a few good points, but another thing that stuck out to me was this:

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« Reply #697 on: March 14, 2019, 12:21:06 AM »
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Agent Coulson lashes against "dinosaurs" who dont like the movie.  :lol:
Holy funt,is Kathleen Kennedy your PR manager now?
You could have went with : Give the movie a chance,you might be surprised.Or anything else.

Yeah, I've never understood why comic creators, people working on films, and people working on video games, these days (not to say it didn't happen in the past, I'm sure it did) can't just say "Give the movie a chance,you might be surprised." or "Sorry you're not enjoying the current run. If you stick with us, hopefully the upcoming issues will be more to your liking." That's money they could be making.

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« Reply #699 on: March 15, 2019, 09:00:08 PM »
Guess who's back, back again, James Gunn's back, tell yo' friends!
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« Reply #700 on: March 27, 2019, 09:07:03 AM »
Its not really a new discovery for me,but people really hated Amazing Spiderman duology.
To each his own,but complaining about being unfaitful to the comics?Homecoming was even worst in that regard.
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« Reply #701 on: March 27, 2019, 03:03:37 PM »
Yeah, I never got that. One of the big gripes was he was a jerk when he first got his powers and used it to show up Flash at BBall... but like, OG Peter literally went on talk shows and did everything he could to cash in on his powers before Ben's death.

Really though, I think it mainly comes down to the personality of the actor and how close it "feels" to Spider-Man. For me, Maguire was an ok Peter, but an awful SM... people will defend the fact that he made quips, but the delivery is so bad and forced he might as well be silent the whole time. Garfield was the opposite end of the spectrum, where he often went too far on the arrogant to-talky end, but I was ok with it because he felt more real and less of a nerd caricature. But then, I'm also the crazy dude who hates SM2 more than SM3, and I do get that Garfield's SM tended to be grating for people.

Holland seems to fit in a nice sweet spot in the center, where he DOES talk a lot, but it's in the whole "I'm talking because I'm actually kinda freaking out and this is my coping mechanism" flavor that some of the best Spider-Man writing often has.

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« Reply #702 on: March 27, 2019, 03:34:47 PM »
ASM made Peter a sort of cool loser skater and he doesnt really get bulied.And makes his motivation revenge,so that changes the character.But at least its a motivation.As opposed to Homecoming which was Batman Beyond lite.
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« Reply #703 on: March 27, 2019, 05:07:22 PM »
Does Holland get bullied though? Like, yeah, we have weenie Flash, but you get the sense that no one else takes that seriously. Holland's Peter has a whole social circle: Dan... I mean, Ned, Michelle, Liz, etc. The biggest issue we see him deal with is the fallout from his constant absence.

For real though, Flash is 100% my biggest issue with the MCU version. Michelle is fun, Ned is fine even though I wish they'd have used Danke instead of Ned, etc. But Flash is just... A putz. They were trying to make him a more "modern" bully, but in an age where cyber bullying and abuse is SUCH a big deal, MCU Flash just calls Peter names sometimes.

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« Reply #704 on: March 27, 2019, 08:43:53 PM »
Principal problem there is Peter.Hes not Peter,hes not Spiderman,hes Tony Stark Jr.
Homecoming could even kill Uncle Ben.Hell,Uncle Ben is NEVER mentioned.
Also,for all that talk about consequences,he never suffers any consequences.Except when he loses the suit.But he gets it back.
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« Reply #705 on: March 28, 2019, 05:57:15 AM »
Eh. Still a better Spider-Man than the two Andrew Garfield movies. Turning the Green Goblin into a hacker was lame, for one thing. (We still haven't had a proper onscreen GG; Dafoe's characterization was dead on, but the costume was Green Goblin as a bad Iron Man knockoff.....)

A perfect on-screen Peter would be a cross between the McGuire and Holland versions, with very little taken from Garfield.


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« Reply #706 on: March 28, 2019, 06:05:25 AM »
 Ok,just for fun,outside of names,what does Homecoming share with comics?
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« Reply #707 on: March 28, 2019, 02:09:43 PM »
The same thing Fant4stic does? :D

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« Reply #708 on: March 28, 2019, 11:26:00 PM »
He lifts a heavy thing!  :D
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« Reply #709 on: March 28, 2019, 11:28:58 PM »
He shoots webs and sticks to walls?!?
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« Reply #710 on: March 29, 2019, 05:51:54 AM »
And hes a rich kid who goes to private school and nothing bad really happens to him.Parker luck,indeed.
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« Reply #711 on: April 02, 2019, 10:11:47 PM »
Avengers Endgame has been confirmed to be 3 hours long.

Lord help us all. We're all going to have to pee so bad when the movie's over.
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« Reply #712 on: April 05, 2019, 11:09:03 PM »
So the next franchise to be launched outside of the Infinity Saga has been announced to be THE ETERNALS.

Most casual fans won't recognize them, just like the Guardians of the Galaxy.

Readily I can recognize at least one, which was speculated and now announced to be the feature character, Angelina Jolie as Sersi.

Couple of other tidbits of news is Kumil Nanjani is in talks to also star, but the male lead is said to be Ikaris and rumor has it they are looking for an "openly gay actor" to play the character. Now, here's the rub. Couple of things actually. Are they looking for an openly gay actor to play a straight character, which I suppose is fairly normal at this point. Or are they looking for an openly gay actor to play an openly gay character, which if you ask me, would be kind of limiting.  If it's the character they want to be openly gay, do they really need an openly gay actor since... it's acting? But honestly, if they can find a suitable actor to portray a character that I know next to little about, what do I care.  And if I don't, I can't imagine general audiences would be that bothered about it. Comic fans however....

But then there's the basis of the character.  Apparently he got his name that he took after his son, Icarus who died.  And with that, he also had a wife, which would suggest the character is straight.

But then there's speculation that this gay character would be Hercules as well.

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« Reply #713 on: April 06, 2019, 05:52:13 PM »
Most casual fans didnt recognize Inhumans either...so it mostly depends on the execution.
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« Reply #714 on: April 06, 2019, 07:54:30 PM »
The Eternals?  Honestly........meh.  They must be aiming for the low-hanging fruit of "what's not tied up in licensed movie rights and what can we make the most changes to so that it will fit however we want with the least amount of people sceaming?".  By my quick count (via Wikipedia) there's been less than 50 issues of their title, total.

Movie franchise I'd like to see before we get down to the Eternals:

The Fantastic Four (if Disney would ever get their heads unlodged & figure out they would make way more in profits than it would cost to get the rights back)
Namor (tied up in above)
Silver Surfer (tied up in above)
The Defenders (seriously doubt that'll ever happen)
The Invaders (probably tied up enough in the FF rights)
The Inhumans (probably a dead property since they killed it on TV)
Daredevil (doubtful since it was "covered" on Netflix)
Powerman/Iron Fist (see Netflix reason)
Alpha Flight (probably tied up in the X-Men rights)
Excalibur (also tied up in X-Men rights ... Although, why can't we get a Capt Britain & Meggan movie ...... oh, yeah, because enough American audiences wouldn't care enough about a British hero)
Deathlok
Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)
Moon Knight (wasn't that on Netflix also?)
Nova (Richard Rider)
She-Hulk (I think the Byrne title format could work well)
Power Pack (maybe)

Not really holding my breath for any of those, although from what I read/remember, Power Pack has the best chance out of all of them.

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« Reply #715 on: April 06, 2019, 08:21:46 PM »
They got FF and X-men back.Namor...I think its with Universal,or did they got him back or its some weird deal like with Hulk solo movies...there is something.
Oh and you mentioned Alpha Flight and Excalibur...expect somebody to show up and explain how thats tottaly crazy.  :rolleyes:

I cant say if American audience would care for Captain Britain,but if you made is as bland and unoffensive as possible you could still make a killing in China.And you dont have Winnie the Pooh in the movie,thats the most important part. 🙂
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« Reply #716 on: April 06, 2019, 09:16:28 PM »
They're also moving forward with a Black Widow movie. They've got screenwriters, a director, and some co-stars cast, so that's apparently happening.

They've also working on Shang-Chi. That one might be tricky... If Marvel's able to, I'd personally try to get Iron Fist, Colleen Wing, ect into that one because, well, that just seems like a good idea. On the other hand, it could work out in a similar way to Black Panther. Crazy Rich Asians with superheroes? Hmm...

I'd be interested in all of the ones Panther-Gunn mentioned....

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Showed up in Agents of Shield quite a bit, so I'm not sure if they'd do it as a movie. They did create a new character to be Deathlok though, instead of the comic versions.

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Moon Knight (wasn't that on Netflix also?)

I double checked this on Netflix:

-Namedropped in Blade: The Series (I remembered that one)
-GotG's James Gunn has publicly said he pitched a Moon Knight to Marvel Studios.
-They had a few plans years ago for a Moon Knight tv series that fell through. I vaguely recall them talking about doing Moon Knight in the Netflix stuff. Apparently Marvel Studio's Kevin Feige said last year they plan to eventually have Moon Knight appear in the MCU.
-He's appeared in the current batch of cartoons, specifically Avengers Assemble. As a policy Marvel tends to avoid using characters in those shows that would be seen as "promoting" properties Fox owned the rights to (hence Wolverine and the Thing only appeared in early seasons....though Mesmero did appear much later). So they probably consider Moon Knight one of "their" characters. This policy, I imagine, will be reversed in the coming years now that Disney has bought the Fox stuff back.

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Nova (Richard Rider)

I'm actually expecting Nova to make into the MCU in the future (as a actual superhero and not simply the Nova Corps)
I did have concerns about how they reconciled the comics version with the non-powered Space Cops from GotG but 1. We know from Infinity War that Thanos went down to Xander to curb-stomp them and get Ronan's Infinity Stone. I'm expecting us to learn more about that in a later film (or is it hoping?) and a superpowered Nova could spin out of the aftermath of that. And 2. The GotG cartoon reconciled the two versions by using a tweaked version of the backstory from the Sam Alexander version. Speaking of which, sorry to say, but I would guess it'd be Sam rather than Richie. I'm personally expecting that when we get the Young Avengers they'll be a combination of the Allen Heinberg/Jim Cheung lineup and the modern incarnation of the Champions. So you'll have say Hulkling, maybe the Teen Vision, but also Ms. Marvel, Sam, ect. Feige has said they plan to add Kamala Khan in the future and I'd guess (while you could add her to a Captain Marvel sequel) they'd probably consider a teen team movie less of a gamble than a solo outing (it's worked out elsewhere: Into the Spider-Verse, Runaways, Cloak and Dagger, ect)

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She-Hulk (I think the Byrne title format could work well)

I've actually been saying for a while I'm surprised they haven't done She-Hulk. I know Marvel hates to have to pay Universal for Hulk stuff (side note - the two Hulk movies just came back to Netflix in some territories so maybe the Edward Norton Hulk leaving Netflix last year wasn't part of the Disney Purge, as I originally thought) but regardless She-Hulk kinda felt like a really obvious one to me. She's a pretty well known Marvel character who isn't tied up in the X-Men stuff, and you can have some fun with the character. I think they've have to figure out how to do the character (CGI like Hulk and Thanos? Green makeup like Drax and Gamorra? Partial CGI like Mantis?) And that might be what's held it back.

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Power Pack (maybe)

Double checking Wikipedia, that one was talked about in 2017 as part of MCU and something similar to Spy Kids. I'd personally bet good money on that going the standalone animated movie route (like Big Hero Six and Into The Spider-Verse). Child actors aging too fast has always been a concern in the filmaking industries and child labor laws on how many hours you can make child actors work might be a concern with the conveyor belt well-oiled machine that is the MCU. Well that or they age the kids up to teenagers and have them played by 20-somethings (which admittedly, they are very much older in the 616 comics, but in an adaptation, it would kinda undercut the whole appeal of Power Pack)

Personally I'm still hoping for Thunderbolts in the future. Let's also not forgot Disney's really trying to make MCU spinoff shows on their streaming service a thing (and actual characters from the films at that: Falcon, Loki, Scarlet Witch, Vision...) so that opens a lot of opportunities.
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« Reply #717 on: April 19, 2019, 04:11:17 PM »
They rushed and ruined Inhumans, so I guess Eternals is trying to make up for that? Sweep one under the rug, grab the other.
Is Sersi going to join the Avengers?
I liked the Inhumans a bit more, but whatever. I'm down for the ride to see what they do in the movies. Change them up, hit or miss, whatever.
(Though I'm still secretly hoping Dr. Strange becomes less "Tony Stark" and more "actually cool, powerful, master of the mystic arts." I would also be way down for an actual Defenders at some point [Why wasn't that Netflix show called Heroes for Hire??], especially if they brought in Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie.)


I really hope Black Widow is just a super dope spy movie. It could be so good.

Shang-Chi made as error correction to Iron Fist could be good too, I agree. Just make a cool Kung Fu movie.

I guess I've been repeating this sentiment. Just make cool movies, and don't worry about making "super hero movies" that tie in everywhere.

I would still totally watch a She Hulk show that was basically Ally McBeal with the occasional super fight.

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« Reply #718 on: April 20, 2019, 03:40:23 PM »
I don't think Eternals/Inhumans is a fair comparison. Eternals was apparently a choice made in house by Marvel Studios, and seems to fall into the same category as GotG... IE: characters fans kinda know about that have some history in the comics to draw from, but with a lack of hardcore fan attachment that allows filmmakers to do their own thing with the material. Inhumans... well, I had a whole rant written up about THAT mess, but I've expressed that frustration enough by now. In short it was the result of some executive meddling rather than creative desire, and boy did it show.

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« Reply #719 on: April 20, 2019, 05:30:45 PM »
Yeah...only Eternal are even more obscure then Inhumans.And nobody gave a cr@p about them.
It could work with a good execution,but its probably going to be another attempt at finding X-men replacements.

BTW,now that James Gunn is back,can we get that Thunderbolts movie he proposed?
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