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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2016, 02:29:38 PM »
I was pretty sure Snyder was pulled off of the Justice League movies because of what happened with BvS, though I could be wrong.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #61 on: June 22, 2016, 03:08:56 PM »
From the article I linked above:
Directed by Zack Snyder, this marks the big screen debut of the Justice League, featuring an all-star lineup: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa, Ezra Miller and Ray Fisher.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #62 on: June 22, 2016, 04:06:08 PM »
I thought Justice League is in 2 parts.Okay,1 more movie?

Oh, it was definitely billed initially as 2 parts.  I thought you meant two more beyond Justice League.

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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #63 on: June 22, 2016, 04:16:21 PM »
Now,THAT would be scary.
I know its reserved for a later movie(IF they get that far),but it doesn't feel like Justice league without a Green Lantern.Thou that will probably be the least of the problems.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2016, 01:25:58 AM »
Film Theory: Can the Joker Save DC Films?

So most of the video is just kinda silly (it's part 2 in a discussion of the 3 Joker reveal in the N52, and I just don't care about it like, at all) the latter half presented an interesting take on the state of the DCU that I figured could start a discussion outside of "OMG WB is awful why isn't Snyder fired yet" I think we've all grown weary of.

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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2016, 01:35:16 AM »
heh, I just got done watching that about 30 minutes ago.

Kind of interesting video, but surprisingly nothing that was really "thought altering" to me as Film/Game Theory usually is for me. I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm a huge comic nerd so none of that stuff was actually news or revealatory to me :P

But yeah, it is nice to hear something other than "TEH DCEU IS DOOOMED!!!!!1!!1"

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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #66 on: August 18, 2016, 03:04:06 AM »
Just heard this interesting little tidbit regarding the upcoming Flash movie.


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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2016, 10:37:53 AM »
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #68 on: January 12, 2017, 08:06:17 PM »
So the main characters and premise of 2020's Green Lantern Corps movie has been released...


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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #69 on: January 12, 2017, 09:30:48 PM »
That could actually work....well, if someone else were making it.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2017, 08:40:49 PM »
So. the new Justice League Trailer dropped. Against my better judgement, I watched it.

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I think it says it all that the only thing that I cared about was that Aquaman's costume is more like his classic now. Everything else... eh. Much like with the last teaser, I feel like JL is trying to be all "look, see, we're fun now! We have jokes! PLEASE COME BACK TO US!"

Granted, that means I'm more likely to actually watch it than I was for BvS (which I flat out admit I refused to pay money to see. I will watch marvel movies in theaters and buy blu rays of them when they come out, but that travesty did not deserve my money). but I am seriously to the point where I care more about the series for action figures than for the film itself.

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« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2017, 05:12:29 AM »
...I care more about the series for action figures than for the film itself.
Which is kinda the whole point.To sell you some merch.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2017, 02:01:42 PM »
Except as much as the designs are mostly cool and I do want a dc cinematic collection (if only to match my growing Marvel one)... the movies themselves are actively killing the desire to spend that money. I fully planned to buy all the JL figures from the Mattel line (I was even considering Lex Luthor to go with the Arrowverse Reverse Flash) but then I watched BvS and any enthusiasm I had DIED.

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« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2017, 02:50:05 PM »
On the bright side,you saved money then.  ;)
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #74 on: March 27, 2017, 03:18:53 AM »
You're not wrong.

On a side note, my friends and I had a revelation the other day. All this nonsense with Zack Snyder happened because people dissed Green Lantern. Because remember, DC WAS going to make that film their Iron Man of the DC Cinematic universe. But nono, that film didn't do well, so now we have this absurdity.

Like... I'm sorry, Green Lantern was a flawed film, but can you honestly imagine a film universe based on that film instead of Man of Steel? Instead of Snyder's bleak, depressing "Batman would be raped during his time in prison" nonsense, a DC cinematic universe based on the shoulders of Ryan Reynolds? With light and fun and adventure instead of darkness and depression and angst?

Just fun to think about.

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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #75 on: March 27, 2017, 03:52:11 AM »
Instead of Snyder's bleak, depressing "Batman would be raped during his time in prison" nonsense,

Excuse me?
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« Reply #76 on: March 27, 2017, 04:04:44 AM »
Instead of Snyder's bleak, depressing "Batman would be raped during his time in prison" nonsense,

Excuse me?
Yes,Snyder said that as a part of a longer "If I did Batman Begins" theory.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #77 on: March 27, 2017, 04:22:26 AM »
Instead of Snyder's bleak, depressing "Batman would be raped during his time in prison" nonsense,

Excuse me?
Yes,Snyder said that as a part of a longer "If I did Batman Begins" theory.

So, not only did he want Bruce to still see his parents gunned down before his very eyes, and not only did he want him to go to prison, but he wanted him to get raped. What would the point of that even be besides somehow making him more fricked up than he is already?

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I just answered my own question, didn't I?
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #78 on: March 27, 2017, 05:12:18 AM »
Well,maybe after all,the people behind 300 and Blade Trinity were not the right choice.
Granted,Goyer also did Blade,but Im pretty sure the credit goes to everyone else there.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #79 on: March 27, 2017, 07:57:52 PM »
Zack Snyder is the worst at interviews (and movies). He said something song the lines of "with BvS we learned people don't like to see their heroes deconstructed. They want to see heroes be heroes".

No, we just don't like bad movies. That's it. BvS was terrible. It was stupid in so many ways. We liked Civil War and it was the same thing you attempted but done well.

And I'm so glad he didn't do Batman Begins. Because he already made a whole stupid movie from which the main takeaway is Zack Snyder is incapable of handling the delicate subject of defile.
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« Reply #80 on: March 27, 2017, 11:16:14 PM »
BWPS, he's not entirely wrong there.  People do prefer to see heroes be heroes.  In general, folks want to see a movie about a flying sun god because they want something fun, not something horribly depressing.

That said, you're right in that the bigger problem is that the film in question is a cinematic travesty.  If you make bad movies, you shouldn't expect people to like them.

Zack Snyder is incapable of handling any subject of even remote delicacy. 
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« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2017, 12:21:17 AM »
Wait...so there is someone out there with LESS decency/lack of delicacy than me?!?
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« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2017, 12:30:48 AM »
Believe it or not, DJ, there is.  He makes you looks positively subtle.   :lol:
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2017, 08:50:45 PM »
If I were the head of Warners, I would get Bruce Timm involved in the DCEU live movie division. Now THERE is somebody who gets it;he knows  how to honor the source material, prseserve what people love about the charecters;but putting a modern spin on it to make it accesable to the non geek audience. THings which Zakc Snyder knows aboustley nothing about.

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« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2017, 10:09:07 PM »
Dudalb, that's something I've said all along.  He's the only guy I can think of who gets it.  Yet, I would want somebody to hold his reins, as he can get a bit weird at times (Bruce and Barbara). 
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« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2017, 02:29:21 AM »
I was gonna say... I love Dini/Timm (and let's be clear, Paul Dini is the actual head writer, Bruce is more credited with the animation style) but yeah, they were weird with some stuff.

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« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2017, 02:34:48 AM »
Fair point, 'Mato. 
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2017, 02:42:38 AM »
While I totally agree with you guys about Snyder's inability to be subtle and reasonable I believe the "people don't like to see their heroes deconstructed" comment was from his wife/producer, Deborah Snyder. This only proves Snyder isn't the only to blame, he had a lot of "help", and this only makes things worse IMHO, because we have a whole team supporting the whole "darker is better" and "people didn't understood the movie" nonsense and refusing to admit the movie's shortcomings.
I really want "Justice League" to be a good movie, but I'm not optimistic.

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« Reply #88 on: April 05, 2017, 03:05:18 AM »
While I totally agree with you guys about Snyder's inability to be subtle and reasonable I believe the "people don't like to see their heroes deconstructed" comment was from his wife/producer, Deborah Snyder. This only proves Snyder isn't the only to blame, he had a lot of "help", and this only makes things worse IMHO, because we have a whole team supporting the whole "darker is better" and "people didn't understood the movie" nonsense and refusing to admit the movie's shortcomings.
I really want "Justice League" to be a good movie, but I'm not optimistic.

Good point. While he's the face of all this ugliness, none of this could have happened with a TON of people making horrible choices all along the way.  There's plenty of blame to go around, and plenty of people to blame.
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« Reply #89 on: April 05, 2017, 04:21:51 AM »
This "darker is better" idea is where I think both DC and Marvel screw up - both in the movies and in comics. How? Well, from my view, they go too dark too fast and don't offer any let up on it. It's like they are sitting around a table trying to out dark the last guy:

"Superman should drop half-a-dozen f-bombs."
"Batman should spout nothing but profanity."
"Hawkman should take a crap on a villian."
"Superman should defile Lois."
"Aquaman should defile Mera's dead corpse."

That doesn't make a good movie nor does it make it "dark". It just makes it a blasphemy of torture porn and horrid acts.

We all know my characters/comic story ideas run a bit darker/realistic than most here but I know that with the darkness there must be some hope/humor/lightness. And truthfully, I've always said that if the darkness isn't something that propels the story or is a vital life changing/character revision (a character you never thought would kill someone does because he/she sees no other way...and the following emotions that one act brings type thing) then leave it out. You can have dark stories without going down the overload road DC and Marvel seem to follow. Someone might need to remind them they are making hero movies, not sequals to Saw or Hostel. But I'm just a crazy undead drunk...

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