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Offline Spade

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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #90 on: April 05, 2017, 04:36:03 AM »
But apparently,along the way they decided it would be nice to have everyone quiping and sprouting pop culture references.Sure,it makes the tone even weirder,but it worked for Marvel.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #91 on: April 05, 2017, 03:13:55 PM »
DJ, that's very well said, and particularly interesting coming from you.  Also, your examples are hilarious and sadly possible.  :P  I don't mind a dark story, but whenever you start out by saying 'what's popular right now?' instead of 'what story needs telling?' you're setting out to fail creatively.

Spade, the ridiculous tonal shift apparent in the Justice League movie bothers me about as much as the whole focus on the aftermath of Man of Steel in BvS.  You can't come back from where they've been.  The well is poisoned, the fields are salted.  You can't right your course without starting over again, because you're still building on blasted foundations.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #92 on: April 05, 2017, 03:31:05 PM »
Here is the problem with that -JLA are not Avengers.They don't live in a mansion/tower in NY.They have a space station in Earth orbit.Going to a parallel universe is a big thing for the Avengers,for the JLA that's a casual Friday.You need to thing big.Other planets,Multiverse,all that wacky stuff.And honestly,another army of CGI mooks is just not that impressive.Imitating Marvel is not what you want to do.
But anyhow,that's just my theory,and the damage is done at this point.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #93 on: April 06, 2017, 12:26:46 AM »
I got to ask, why is it interesting for me to say what I did, BG?

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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #94 on: April 06, 2017, 01:28:13 AM »
Because, as you said, you're someone who likes darker stories, so it's not just me being crotchety and old fashioned.  :)

Spade: I wouldn't mind a (semi) quippy JLA, provided it didn't get too out of control, but you're right, they are not the Avengers, and just trying to recreate that dynamic at this late stage is ridiculous.

As with most things, I think a good example exists in JLU's dynamic, which had plenty of humor, but it's not just everyone being snarky.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #95 on: April 06, 2017, 01:36:03 AM »
Personally, I think what's most frustrating about this stuff is that DC has the potential to be so much bigger and more fantastic than Marvel does... and they're sitting in a corner with their movie universe trying to be "realistic" and "edgy" compared to Marvel Comics. Here's the thing: NO ONE CARES about realistic. If they did, Star Wars would not be the powerhouse it is. Good story and good characters trump logic EVERY TIME. You have a universe with some of the most fantastic, colorful, and FUN characters, and you're placing yourself into this tiny little box of dark, moody and "more realistic" for NO REASON.

And really, that's where I finally broke with TDK trilogy as well. Don't get me wrong, I do still like TDK and it's still probably my favorite Batman film overall, but when TDKR came out I was ready for the trilogy to die and never return. Because while I like how seriously it handled stuff like Harvey Dent's descent into madness, Nolan's universe does not allow for the more fantastic elements of the Batman mythos, such as Robin, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, or the like without seriously reworking them.

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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #96 on: April 06, 2017, 01:54:47 AM »
Personally, I think what's most frustrating about this stuff is that DC has the potential to be so much bigger and more fantastic than Marvel does... and they're sitting in a corner with their movie universe trying to be "realistic" and "edgy" compared to Marvel Comics. Here's the thing: NO ONE CARES about realistic. If they did, Star Wars would not be the powerhouse it is. Good story and good characters trump logic EVERY TIME. You have a universe with some of the most fantastic, colorful, and FUN characters, and you're placing yourself into this tiny little box of dark, moody and "more realistic" for NO REASON.

And really, that's where I finally broke with TDK trilogy as well. Don't get me wrong, I do still like TDK and it's still probably my favorite Batman film overall, but when TDKR came out I was ready for the trilogy to die and never return. Because while I like how seriously it handled stuff like Harvey Dent's descent into madness, Nolan's universe does not allow for the more fantastic elements of the Batman mythos, such as Robin, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, or the like without seriously reworking them.

Well, Ivy could just be a non-powered botanist like she was in the comic's earlier years and most of TAS, but yeah, I get your point. Mask of the Phantasm is still my favorite Batman movie not just because it's really darn good, but also because it has no problem with throwing in some of the more fanciful elements of the Bat-mythos, such as jetpacks and deathtraps and whatnot. (While still being good. Joel Schumaker, I'm looking at you.) And they could easily do that sort of thing in live-action now if they wanted to, and no-one would complain. And instead, we get the Dark Knight Douchebag in BvS. Honestly, I think the only thing they can really do at this point is to just scrap the whole thing and start it all over after 5-10 years or so, because they've already botched the job as far back as Man of Steel. And they've only gotten worse.
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Re: DC Extended Universe
« Reply #97 on: April 12, 2017, 06:15:39 PM »
I am betting we will not see a Solo Flash film until the TV show has ended it's run.
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