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Offline HarryTrotter

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Re: Into the Bronze Age
« Reply #450 on: February 07, 2018, 03:35:00 PM »
Also speaking of GL/GA,its funny how often the series gets dragged out in recent times to prove that "comics were always political". Yeah,thats not really the same as what we are getting today.
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Re: Into the Bronze Age
« Reply #451 on: February 09, 2018, 06:20:33 AM »
Well, there's a school of thought that says 'everything is political,' and in a sense, it's true, insofar as everything that we create is a reflection of or a comment on the culture that it springs from, but there is a marked difference between works that are self-consciously political and those that aren't.

There's also a marked difference between editorial mandated political stances and those taken by creators, for what it's worth.

On a different note, let's start a new month of classic comics!
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Re: Into the Bronze Age
« Reply #452 on: February 09, 2018, 11:52:16 PM »
Oksner was a wonderful artist who did a lot of humor titles for DC, like Bob Hope, Jerry Lewis, and a bunch of other similar licensed characters, as well as Angel and the Ape. In later years he did Superman.

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« Reply #453 on: February 10, 2018, 09:18:07 PM »
@Bento Not quite what Im saying.Even if its hamfisted as it is,we could all agree that drugs are bad.IMO its impossible to compare that to the whinefest of entitled wankers that is todays Marvel.Nuances,I guess.
Later on there will be another set of backups,Superman The Secret Years,that dealt with Clarks journey from Superboy to Superman.Great stuff,actually.
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Re: Into the Bronze Age
« Reply #454 on: April 18, 2018, 05:27:52 PM »
Howdy guys! I've posted a few different Bronze Age entries in the last few months.  Sorry I haven't kept up the releases here, but it's been a busy time.  I have some particularly interesting comics today!
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/2018/04/18/into-the-bronze-age-september-1971/
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« Reply #455 on: April 18, 2018, 09:28:01 PM »
The Sand Thing saga did end rather abruptly. I wonder if the powers that were told O'Neil he had X number of issues to make the changes... I think it could have used a few more pages anyway. The "Kryptonite No More" aspects hung around for awhile, the other changes kind of just got forgotten as I remember.

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« Reply #456 on: April 26, 2018, 04:31:42 PM »
I don't know, DG.  That's an interseting question.  I sort of feel like he just didn't have a complete idea and was making up portions of it as he went along.  I also think that O'Neil is just under the delusion that anyone else cares about I-Ching, like a parent who thinks their unexceptional kid is the center of the universe. 

Well, how about the end of the Don Rickles fever dream?  Ohh, and capstone for September 1971 one as well?:
https://bentongrey.wordpress.com/2018/04/26/into-the-bronze-age-september-1971-part-6/

Here is some more Bronze Age goodness.
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« Reply #457 on: April 27, 2018, 07:51:17 AM »
Forgot to mention it all this time...DC decides to capture some Marvel magic,so they get Jack Kirby...and then give him Jimmy Olsen,Supermans Pal.Why not Superman?Were they afraid of that he would change too much?
Also,on an earlier thing,Superman will later get a Roman-themed rival in Alpha Centurion.Whos been missing for some 20 years,but I doubt anyone cares.Still,far from the worst thing that came out of Zero Hour.
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« Reply #458 on: May 01, 2018, 02:50:59 AM »
Well, clearly given the retouching they did on his work with Supes and Jimmy, DC did not want its flagship character actually handled by the King.  According to legend, he got Jimmy Olsen because the powers that be insisted he do an existing title, as well as his new books, and he said "give me your lowest selling book and I'll make it your highest selling one."

Interesting, I wonder if someone like the design of the Super Centurion fellow.
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Re: Into the Bronze Age
« Reply #459 on: May 01, 2018, 03:47:41 AM »
There is an Alpha Centurion by Dreamerzoid.

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« Reply #460 on: May 03, 2018, 05:52:39 PM »
Granted,Stuart Immoens design wasnt half bad.But there is a thousand supporting characters attached to Superman,and some just get phased out.Wonder what Scorn is up to these days...
Speaking of Kirby,next year sees the debut of Etrigan.CCA was loosening,and soft satanism was the counter culture of the early 70's. :)
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« Reply #461 on: May 03, 2018, 07:04:23 PM »
Cool, DG!

Yeah, HT, I'm really looking forward to that, but you're right.  The appearance of Etrigan does point to a further loosening of the CCA's restrictions.
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« Reply #462 on: May 03, 2018, 07:12:39 PM »
For reference,soon after that Marvel tried to make Son of Satan (or rather son of an otherdimensional ruler pretending to be Satan,but that lacks a certain ring) a thing.And they have been trying ever since...
Also,Im pretty sure that counterculture gave birth to wacky Christian groups and their war on tabletop games and children cartoons.
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« Reply #463 on: May 03, 2018, 08:40:04 PM »
Yeah, the Son of Satan thing has just never really worked, has it?  That one seems a little out there for my tastes.

I don't know; I feel like the war on D&D and such was more a product of the 80s.
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Re: Into the Bronze Age
« Reply #464 on: May 04, 2018, 12:01:12 AM »
Yeah, the Son of Satan thing has just never really worked, has it?  That one seems a little out there for my tastes.

I don't know; I feel like the war on D&D and such was more a product of the 80s.

On the other hand, Son of Satan ended up being a part of the Classic Defenders, so that alone makes him worth having around in my book.
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« Reply #465 on: May 04, 2018, 12:30:12 AM »
The D&D equals Satanism/cults view started in the mid 70s but it didn't really gain nationwide coverage/dispersion until the 80s. You could say, that this unfound and idiotic view was part of the early creation-era of what we now know as the Evangelical Movement.
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« Reply #466 on: May 04, 2018, 04:21:06 AM »
There was a Hellstrom series back in the 90's.Its something of Hellblazer-lite.Which again,proves that they tried everything.
But the industry never really grasped the difference between "a lasting franchise" and "it lasted for 20-40 issues a few decades ago".
Loosening of CCA in 1971 caused both DC and Marvel to shovel out tons of tame horror title.From the whole bunch only Tomb of Dracula,Swamp Thing and Ghost Rider really had any staying power.
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