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Offline daglob

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Meanwhile, back at the Wayback Machine
« on: February 26, 2016, 04:24:43 AM »
Well, I started using the links at Dreamerzoid's site to look at stuff on the Wayback Machine, and one of the links led to Freedom Reborn Handbook. I've saved most of the pages, and started on the data pages. One of them was for a character called Outamyhead, and I was curious enough to click on the link to the skin... and it was there! Not only was I there, it was on a Wayback Machine saved NPI page with other links to other skins... and other NPI pages. I think I got them all (at least the ones that were still there), there were some 250 skins and/or meshes. I know I have some of them already (they were at NPI), and I haven't checked them all out, but I figure I have a couple that I didn't before.

All in all a very profitable waste of time.
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2016, 04:49:50 AM »
I wouldn't call it a waste of time...more like, preserving fine art from being lost to the ravages of time.  :D
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2016, 06:02:47 AM »
The thing is, what do I do with them? I've found several, like RTTingle's avatar (two of them), that I don't think are anyplace else, and, since he isn't around these day, I can't really ask him if I can post it to a NPI Yahoo group. I'm still not sure what I've got.

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2016, 08:36:57 AM »
Yeah i love looking back to those old ff sites with the way back machine. I even found some old tutorials, forums, the skindex, the freedom center...

I also stumbled upon Reepicheep's ff site. I think it had some meshes over there. But i thought the download links were gone though.

The thing is, what do I do with them? I've found several, like RTTingle's avatar (two of them), that I don't think are anyplace else, and, since he isn't around these day, I can't really ask him if I can post it to a NPI Yahoo group. I'm still not sure what I've got.

Well you can maybe post the links? So people could get a chance to download them too. I'd be very interested to see them as well. :)
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2016, 03:10:03 PM »
Wow!  Cool!  :D  I'm not sure what we can, should do with them, but I think we'll probably have to have a community discussion one of these days about what to do with the work of folks who have left the community.  It seems a shame to let it just fade into obscurity.
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2016, 03:49:40 PM »
Way cool! I tend to agree with the idea of making them available to everyone. Having collected a massive amount of creative works of a lot of very talented people over the years, I, too, would hate to see it fade into obscurity (no pun intended :P)

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2016, 05:18:46 PM »
It seems a shame to let it just fade into obscurity.

Well, that explains how DaGlob found the links :P

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2016, 06:12:37 PM »
The way I found it was by putting this link from Dreamerzoid's links page into The Wayback Machine:

http://mumas.com/FF/home.htm

...and looking for an earlier capture. I found one taken around 2004, and in the "O"s, there was a character called Outtamyhead. I clicked on the link (the image is gone) and was taken to a data page on the character. Just for fun, I clicked on the link to his skin, and was taken to an archived NPI page. This page looked totally different than any NPI page I had seen before. But a lot of the links work! So do a lot of the links on other pages you can reach from it.

I'm leaving the rest of it up to y'all.

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 07:06:00 PM »
I've found that by changing the capture dates there are some characters that are not on other captures. You have probably figure this out by now, but this is for those who came in late...

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2016, 07:48:45 PM »
On one of the older pages I found a link to The FF Underground. Sadly, I haven't found anything that works yet. I'm particularly unhappy about the Death's Jester page...

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2016, 08:23:26 PM »
I've spent the last week or so slowly going through what I have. I have looked at fantastic hex/scopes and beautiful skins. It deepens my respect for those who came before me.

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2016, 01:33:32 AM »
I've spent the last week or so slowly going through what I have. I have looked at fantastic hex/scopes and beautiful skins. It deepens my respect for those who came before me.

No kidding...The magic that that the original Skinners did with Male_Basic/Male_Belt is just incredible. Not on my best day could that magic ever flow through me.
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2016, 06:43:08 AM »
On one of the older pages I found a link to The FF Underground. Sadly, I haven't found anything that works yet. I'm particularly unhappy about the Death's Jester page...

http://web.archive.org/web/20051204011117/http://ffunderground.com/

I GOT 2!!!
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2016, 03:41:26 PM »
 :)

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2016, 08:57:08 PM »
Anyone recognise this work? http://timothylaskey.tripod.com/skins.html
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2016, 09:55:05 PM »
Definitely Revenant's work, that's for sure.

That guy was an AMAZING skinner. Wow!

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2016, 12:15:59 AM »
Oh man,  that got me thinking,  could anyone find an archive of Unfluffybunny.com?

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2016, 01:10:03 AM »
Oh man,  that got me thinking,  could anyone find an archive of Unfluffybunny.com?

Kind of, but I don't think I've been able to get anything from here yet.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040820054429/http://www.freewebs.com/synff/index.htm
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2016, 02:08:10 AM »
Sorry for the double post, but I thought Daglob would want to see this one.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041119183437/http://www.gammapatrol.com/content.php?ctype=skins&cid=28&qStart=1

The Mesh in question is actually by BIL, even though it's located where it is.
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2016, 03:57:47 AM »
Thanks. Maybe BIL still has a copy someplace.

Later:

Well, whaddaya know. He did have it.

I just can't seem to be able to get any keyframes to work on it.

Looking at it, it would make a nice space suit.

I wonderer where the original skins is...
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2016, 06:27:40 AM »
I was able to grab the "Mike B7" Skin by Paradox for that Mesh, but I still don't have the Mesh  :P  , but I'm sure with some Skope-Fu, we could get some Keys to work on it.
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2016, 06:31:04 AM »
I don't think it was very good. Can I see the Mike B7 skin? I think I used taskmaster keyframes with it. I can look and see if I have any kf.

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2016, 02:20:00 PM »
Ohh man, this just occured to me, but if someone wants to do modders a really big favor, they could take screenshots of picture indexes of maps from the old FXForce and FRP2 sites, if they could find them.  If I get some time soon I'll do it myself, but I CONSTANTLY lament the loss of those sites, as much for the loss of a visual record of maps as for the sites themselves!
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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2016, 02:53:35 PM »
I'm working on it. :)

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...It's... MADD RABBIT!
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2016, 02:16:21 AM »
I haven't found the links page yet, and his mesh isn't there, but a pic is...

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2016, 03:11:05 AM »
I don't think it was very good. Can I see the Mike B7 skin? I think I used taskmaster keyframes with it. I can look and see if I have any kf.

Here's a Pic of the Mesh with Paradox's "MikeB7" Skin on it.

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2016, 03:01:43 PM »
Anyone recognise this work? http://timothylaskey.tripod.com/skins.html

I do indeed recognize some of those, particularly the Iron Man skins. Or at least a version of them from Tommyboy's site. And yes, I do believe it was Ren's work. Fantastic. I would kill for alot of these, particularly the Cap, Supergirl and Scarlet Witch ones. man had amazing talent.

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2016, 05:56:38 PM »
Anyone recognise this work? http://timothylaskey.tripod.com/skins.html

I do indeed recognize some of those, particularly the Iron Man skins. Or at least a version of them from Tommyboy's site. And yes, I do believe it was Ren's work. Fantastic. I would kill for alot of these, particularly the Cap, Supergirl and Scarlet Witch ones. man had amazing talent.

I'm pretty sure I have Cap and Supergirl, and maybe Scarlet Witch. If so, where would you like them sent?

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Re: Back at the Wayback Machine...Update
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2016, 07:48:13 PM »
Anyone recognise this work? http://timothylaskey.tripod.com/skins.html

I do indeed recognize some of those, particularly the Iron Man skins. Or at least a version of them from Tommyboy's site. And yes, I do believe it was Ren's work. Fantastic. I would kill for alot of these, particularly the Cap, Supergirl and Scarlet Witch ones. man had amazing talent.

I'm pretty sure I have Cap and Supergirl, and maybe Scarlet Witch. If so, where would you like them sent?

My way please!?!?!  :D
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