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Offline Shogunn2517

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Black Lightning series developing...
« on: September 01, 2016, 06:58:05 PM »
http://deadline.com/2016/09/black-lightning-dc-superhero-series-greg-berlanti-mara-brock-akil-salim-akil-1201811892/

This is interesting in a few ways.

First of all Black Lightning is ripe full of material that would make compelling television IMO.  Secondly, you have Greg Berlanti collaborating with Brock/Salim.  Someone who has a platform of success on with Time Warner and CBS and a pair that is successful with Viacom properties.  Now, I don't want or suggest to pigeon hole a black superhero with the "black network" BET, but from a business sense, not only could it increase BET's viewership but it would be a WELCOMED departure from its typical programmming.  I mean a superhero action drama is worlds apart from set comedy-dramas like Girlfriends or The Game.  But in doing so, being in the shared universe Arrow/Flash/Supergirl/Legends would be that much more unlikely.  Again, this is assuming a BET pitch would be the path of least resistance.  But then again, their prior shows did debut on WB/CW before they were moved to BET.  So they DO have a relationship. 

Overall, Black Lightning is a interesting character.  Can bring an "urban" twist to a superhero show we don't often see, but still be about the heroes we want to see.  I hope they can find a home and develop a show.

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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2016, 08:18:49 PM »
Cool.  I really like the character, and I agree, he could easily make for a great TV show.  I don't know these folks or their work, and at this point I'm very hesitant about any superhero show not on Netflix...nonetheless, I'm cautiously interested.  The pitch focusing on him having retired and having a daughter doesn't sound as interesting as seeing him start out, but I'm willing to be convinced.
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2016, 02:46:28 AM »
Cool.  I really like the character, and I agree, he could easily make for a great TV show.  I don't know these folks or their work, and at this point I'm very hesitant about any superhero show not on Netflix...nonetheless, I'm cautiously interested.  The pitch focusing on him having retired and having a daughter doesn't sound as interesting as seeing him start out, but I'm willing to be convinced.

True.  I agree.  But as far as their work goes, I'm not a oft viewer but they're typical CW like sitcoms.  Being Mary Jane is their newest and it's more drama soap opera ish, but it's received some critical acclaim, but they're niche shows.  Don't really see a superhero show(or action series) in their wheelhouse, but Berlanti is likely handling the heavy lifting.  Ali and Brock might be there to have it speak to a particular auduence.  My guess at least.

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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2016, 05:33:29 AM »
doubt it's gonna be on the CW since they already said they have enough Superhero Shows.

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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2017, 05:40:36 PM »
A bit of news have released.  Some time ago, Greg Berlanti stated that the series, which is currently filming won't be a part of the Arrowverse.  IMO, that would have been kinda silly.  But since, Fox has passed on the series and it's been picked up by the CW.  However, unlike the other CW originated series this is not a spinoff.  So I guess that's still up in the air.

What isn't is Cress Williams in costume:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/29/first-look-at-black-lightning-from-the-cws-new-dc-comics-pilot

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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2017, 05:47:11 PM »
...it's been picked up by the CW.
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2017, 06:06:39 PM »
Well...it's not terrible.  What do y'all think?  I have to say, I really don't like the mask.  It looks goofy.
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2017, 06:40:59 PM »
Initially, I didn't like the circuit pattern in the costume thinking it makes it kinda busy, then I thought it would be cool if energy moved through them when he uses his powers.

I guess what I'm saying is I want to see this more in context before I render a final verdict.  Initial impression though is not too bad but a bit on the busy side.
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2017, 07:16:51 PM »
Well...it's not terrible.  What do y'all think?  I have to say, I really don't like the mask.  It looks goofy.

I wouldn't say goofy.... (okay, maybe a little).  But honestly, I would imagine it being more tinted...  maybe a yellow or a dark tint.  I mean since he is flashing a bunch of lightning, it'd make sense.

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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2017, 01:30:23 AM »
Okay, so the trailer has been released:
http://majorspoilers.com/2017/05/18/television-black-lightning-first-look-trailer-arrives/

Initial thoughts: The costume he used in the flashback is basically comics accurate and looks about 1000 times better than the 'modern' one.  Why in the world didn't they go with that?  It looks like an actual costume, while the modern one looks like fairly decent cosplay.  The mask looks WAY goofier in action.  Wow.  Just...wow.  Also, someone explain to me how the ending scene with the levitating punk is even remotely possible from BL's powerset. 

On the plus side, the CW vibe isn't too strong, and I like the basic concept.  As I've said before, though, I'd rather they start at the beginning.  I like this character, and I'm prepared to give this show a shot, despite its origins.
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2017, 02:51:19 AM »
I'm actually kinda glad they aren't starting with an origin arc as there have been TONS of those lately.  We're dealing with an established (albeit retired) hero, which is a nice change.

And if you want origin stories, I am willing to bed you're going to get one with his daughters.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2017, 03:42:25 AM »
O_o

GG just said she's "willing to bed". My, my GG, it seems some of my "charm" is rubbing off on you. ;-)
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2017, 05:49:53 PM »
I actually see both your points about an origin story.  I think there's more story to go with in an origin and yet we've had plenty of those.

That said, I'm not as sour on the costume.  Yeah the original one was more accurate, but practically speaking, the dude did have bullet holes in him wearing that thing.  The new one seems more sturdier.  Bulkier, but more resistant to realistic combat.  Yeah, it'll get some getting use to but I think it'll work.

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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2017, 06:36:37 PM »
O_o

GG just said she's "willing to bed". My, my GG, it seems some of my "charm" is rubbing off on you. ;-)
Oh hush.

Anyhoo...

My biggest problem with the new costume is the glowing lapels.  I don't mind the mask or the bulk too much, and IIRC, the closeups have a circuitry pattern worked into the suit which I now know trace glowing energy. But the glowing lapels just look off to me. 

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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2017, 06:38:13 PM »
O_o

GG just said she's "willing to bed". My, my GG, it seems some of my "charm" is rubbing off on you. ;-)
Oh hush.

Anyhoo...

My biggest problem with the new costume is the glowing lapels.  I don't mind the mask or the bulk too much, and IIRC, the closeups have a circuitry pattern worked into the suit which I now know trace glowing energy. But the glowing lapels just look off to me.

Oh yeah, GG, order me around... :P
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2017, 12:04:58 AM »
Haha, now look what you've done, GG!

Well, that costume just looks like the ugly, overdesigned faux-armor things that are literally everywhere with TV superheroes.  It just looks ugly and badly made.  Yes, practically speaking, there's obvious advantages to armor if you're a non-bulletproof superhero, but realism really isn't that high on my list of concerns for such shows.  If you're going to go with armor, at least make it look better than that! 

Yeah, we've had plenty of origin stories, but none like his!  That's part of the reason I wish we could see it.  He's such a great character, and I'd like to see them tell his whole story.
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2017, 04:26:34 AM »
Welll, if you want to put it that way Benton, a black dude going around shoving lightning bolts up people's ashes, if you're going that route then why not give him spandex? Lol

I still think ultimately it'll grow on us.  Especially if the story is well done.

I guess we'll see.

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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2017, 03:21:07 PM »
Haha, right? 

Yeah, it's not enough to make me write the show off or anything, but it's just a shame that they MADE a better costume and aren't going to use it.
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2017, 04:42:45 AM »
I'm curious to see which characters DC incorporates into the "Black Lightning"-verse, since this will be separate to "Supergirl" and "Green Arrow"/"The Flash"/"Legends..." universe.

It's also interesting to see The CW superhero series continue to expand its use of older actors playing superheroes ... they've come a long way since they cast a hunky young dude as Wildcat on "Arrow".

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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2017, 02:33:30 AM »
This is really awesome.  Black Lightning's creator, Tony Isabella, has had a rather famously rocky relationship with DC, especially over creator's rights.  Yet, he recently wrote on his blog about being flown out to meet with the folks working on this show, and seeing a creator get treated so well after all the ugliness of the preceding years is really wonderful.  Check out his account:
http://tonyisabella.blogspot.com/2017/07/los-angeles-confidential.html
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2018, 08:59:23 PM »
Courtesy of Freedom Reborn's Facebook page, we have the first look at Black Lightning's daughter, Thunder.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-your-first-look-at-black-lightnings-superpowered-1821787253

It looks like we are literally going to have a family team here, which I approve of.  The other CW DC shows have teams that act like a family (when they aren't getting all dramatic and stuff) but in this case they literally are a family.  I like that.  It's something distinct.
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Re: Black Lightning series developing...
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 07:18:16 AM »
Black Lightning premiered tonight... Not a bad start.  Not overly excellent, but mildly entertaining, performances were pretty solid, writing was... eh.  Still got some questions though...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Not sure if anyone else caught it, but it's a good start.  Has a lot more room to grown to make sure to attract and keep audiences though.
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2018, 10:29:48 AM »
I watched it.  It has me interested enough to keep watching.  I do like that we have a somewhat older hero with a family.  Other than that we shall see, but I enjoyed what I saw so far.

EDIT: I also like the fact that they skipped the origin story.  I'm sure they'll go into it later on, but not ever superhero show needs one.  Instead of wasting time with all that setup, they drop us right into the action instead.  A refreshing change.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2018, 10:05:21 AM »
Yeah, I noticed that too, Cat.  It's refreshing.  I mean I think audiences are wise enough to accept that a superhero show has a guy that can cast lightning.  Particularly when I believe they'll tell his origin and backstory through other characters(Whale and Anissa).

Also a nice little easter egg I read was that Jefferson Pierce is/was married to Lynn Pierce, who was Lynn Stewart before she married Jefferson.  She is the sister of John Stewart.

Not sure if that means he'll show up in the show or not, but it's a nice little nod.

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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2018, 06:27:11 AM »
I need to try and catch this so I can give it a chance.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2018, 07:40:15 AM »
So not sure if anyone is watching this still(or at all).  It's understandable.  It's NOT really a superhero show.  The showrunners are actually really good at what they do.  Which is not genre shows and it shows.  It's dramatic and has a good narrative. These characters are very well written.  Authentic AF.  The villains are WONDERFUL.  The actors playing Tobias Whale is a gem.  Jill Scott(R&B singer) kinda knocked out the park her role particularly when you just expect her to be your standard singer-turn-actor.  Many of the other characters are very relatable.  But the story is a bit of a clunky mess.  Black Lightning seems to have any ol superpower they want to give him.  As far as the superheroics go, it's a bit convenient and cartoony, the way it's talked about.  They're doing the same motif of using a cop/vigilante team-up.

Anyway, I digress.

I just thought it was interesting in the latest episode, the youngest daughter finds out that her sister and father(Thunder and Black Lightning) are who they are, her mother goes to talk to her and jokingly tells her she's not Vixen or Supergirl.... just thought it was interesting that THOSE two were the two they mentioned, which makes me more curious if this is or will be a part of the Arrowverse even more.

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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2018, 11:50:19 AM »
I've been watching it. In Canada it's a Netflix exclusive, and I actually think it watches better that way, with the commercials all cut out, because I find it feels more like the DC answer to the Marvel Netflix shows (like Luke Cage) than something comparable to the other CW superhero shows. I actually dig it quite a bit more than I thought I would. I was pretty sure I'd give it a try but I wasn't really sure what to expect. I agree that the actor for Tobias is pretty great, I think I like him more as a "ghetto Kingpin" than Cottonmouth in Luke Cage.  It's a pretty well cast show. The thing I like about it is that with a family man dynamic it's really carved out it's own niche that the other superhero shows and movies don't really offer. It's refreshing in that regard (I felt the same way about Spider-Man Homecoming being a MCU film with a high-school student hero) At first I thought Jefferson himself (Cress Williams) was a little too stiff for a leading man, but he's grown on me.

I've heard the creators have been a bit undecided on whether it's in the Arrowverse, but they took the same approach to Supergirl at first. The only thing is I don't think it fits tonally at all with the other shows, and that it'd be really surreal if those characters did crossover with Black Lightning, but then again the same is pretty much true for the Marvel Netflix shows.
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2018, 05:43:52 PM »
I"m still watching it too.  Am a bit behind because of the Power Rangers Hyperforce Shattered Grid special the last few weeks, but I'll try to catch up before next week.  Yes, it's different from the other superhero shows, but it still manages to be good and do its own thing.  It's also cool that they were able to find an actual African-American Albino to play Tobias Whale and one who actually is great at the role.  I've read some interviews with him, and he's very much putting his own experiences and the prejudice he's experience as a result of both of the traits into the role.  I am looking forward to seeing where it goes, and I like that we have a family of superheroes developing, as that makes this show wholely unique among the others.
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