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Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« on: September 19, 2016, 05:38:38 PM »
I picked up ASM #16 and #17 and it was suprisingly easy to get into.Considering I havent been reading Spiderman titles in a long while.Im honestly interested to see what comes next.And we have  a new Electro,btw.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 08:05:19 PM »
I'm interested to see where this goes, actually. I've been kind of waiting for them to bring back Octavius since they revealed he was still alive, and the way things are going would make that interesting. If the big bad (spoilers) decides to bring him back, will it pull his consciousness from where it currently resides, or will both be alive?

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2016, 05:36:11 AM »
Seeing this is Jackal,I dont think hes reviving people in the classical sense,hes probably just cloning them.So it would be a different Doc Ock I guess.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2016, 03:23:26 PM »
Just read the latest issue. Spoilers for that:

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2016, 04:43:03 PM »
The whole thing reminded me of Baxter Stockman...
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2016, 04:54:42 PM »
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 05:10:29 PM »
And the event itself started.No prizes in guessing whos back.And the backup story was pretty meta.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2016, 09:37:04 PM »
Man... that's disappointing.

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2016, 05:49:05 AM »
Well,she was in the FCBD issue,so this isnt exactly new.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2016, 05:45:08 PM »
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2016, 05:44:40 AM »
^That would make things akward.
Also,Goblin seems to be fully aware of "Women in refrigirators" there.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2016, 02:00:21 PM »
It would, but my one hope coming out of this is that Peter will ask about it and she'll be like "What are you talking about?" revealing once and for all that the whole thing was yet another plan to screw with Peter's mind.

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2016, 05:11:41 PM »
^Thats possible,but there is still the question of rapidly-growing-silver-age-babies.And thats a bit hard to explain.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2016, 05:12:13 PM »
Not only did he revive every villain ever,but also
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Jackal either has some serious plan,or is just doing the whole thing for lulz.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2016, 08:00:36 PM »
Or both. It *is* the Jackal.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2016, 08:22:15 PM »
Speaking of which,due to the whole mess that was Clone Saga,It was never really clear what was Jackals original plan.Or he was working for High Evolutionary or something.
Its a bit better in Spider Island,but he seems to mostly do things because he can.Okay,he has a personal reason,I guess,but its not brought up that often.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2016, 09:11:06 PM »
To quote any one of several characters in "Girl Genius":

"I'll show them! I'LL SHOW THEM ALL!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahah..."

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2016, 09:34:18 PM »
The Jackal's motives have always been to torture Spider-Man and to perfect his cloning science.

Miles has always blamed Spider-Man for the death of Gwen Stacy (he secretly loved her, because he was just creepy like that) and he was jealous of Peter because he got to be with her. Plus, for some reason the only time the cloning process was truly successful was because of Peter's physiology (the Gwen clone was retconned as some other woman Gwen's age that Jackal "overwrote" with Gwen's DNA.) so there's that little nugget of motivation that keeps him coming back.

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2016, 04:07:30 AM »
Yeah,but like I said,that part is not mentioned often.
If the readers wasnt aware of previous stories,you could be a bit confused.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2016, 04:56:40 PM »
So. Clone Conspiracy #2.

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2016, 05:22:06 PM »
Wow,Jackal is self-aware almost to the point of recognizing hes a comic book villain.Wait,I think hes fully aware of that.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2016, 05:29:46 PM »
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2016, 05:53:08 PM »
And Peter has been pretty fast to buy into Jackals story.Ofc it would be pretty funny if this ends up being Korvac thing and Jackal really is good,but poor communication causes problems.
But I guess the theory about Jackal having the same plan again doesnt hold true anymore?
OR it might not even be Miles Warren under the mask.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2016, 08:46:12 PM »
We did get an explanation of what Kaine was up to since Spider Verse.
And this happening on so many alternate worlds doesnt really seem plausible.Its Jackal,not Jim Jasper.
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2016, 11:43:58 PM »
Yeah... I point back to what I said when Clone Conspiracy #2. came out. In order for this to happen, there HAS to be a Parker Industries, and New U HAS to rise up in the company's wake. Even the argument that "all worlds are tied to 616, because Great Web", that still doesn't explain how this happened on all these worlds BEFORE they happened on 616. And I don't buy that AT ALL because they made a point of stating in Spider-Verse that Superior was the ONLY Spider-man who had been mind swapped with Ock, which is the ENTIRE REASON there's a Parker Industries in the first place. I'm not saying Peter doesn't have the talent... but he's the type of person who's just as happy working for a company like Horizon Labs or Stark Industries and propping that company up. He's not the type of person to slap his name on an entire company... particularly in light of him wanting to maintain a secret identity to the point of idiocy. Parker Industries is ABSOLUTELY a product of Otto's egomania.

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2016, 03:32:59 PM »
Holly FUNT,I was right.  :blink:
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Spiderman/SpiderGwen interaction was fun to read.And I have a strange feeling there is a new Spider-cycle toy available.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2016, 04:07:31 PM »
So there's a bit of a canonicity hiccup here.

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2016, 04:11:50 PM »
For the record,it was revealed in the previous issue of Clone Cospiracy 2 weeks ago.
I guess we just repeat the Mighty Marvel Mantra: It was 5 reboots ago,It was 5 reboots ago... :)
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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2016, 04:26:05 PM »
I didn't mean that part

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Re: Dead No more: Clone Conspiracy
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2016, 04:34:55 PM »
Maybe that was a different Milles yet again.A runaway clone?
Doombot system.
Btw,the preview for CC Omega announces a new Spider-book spinning off from it.By Peter David and Mark Bagley.Sign me up for that.
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