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Offline HarryTrotter

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2017, 05:00:56 AM »
The episode (and this is clearly one pilot episode split into two) wasnt the problem.Airing half of it was.But thats a problem with the buisness model and not the story.
SS was just naming examples.You could add every superhero movie and tv-series.See my numerous rants about originitis. :)
If you think about it,it was a bit like the DS9 pilot.It detailed Siskos life,explained Bajor and the wormhole and all that.
Okay,its an odd choice not to actually future the ship Discovery.But its not something that kills the series right away.Again,its too early to judge.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2017, 06:35:12 AM »
I actually did think of the DS9 pilot myself. I didn't make a point to mention it because while all things HT just pointed out are true of it, it does introduce your entire main cast and make it clear who they are and what their role in the show will be going forward. You meet Kira, Bashir, Odo, Quark, and the rest. The pilot of Enterprise is also comparable.

Cat, I did mention that not everyone who watches the show will read interviews and the like. And I do agree with you that it shouldn't be required reading. That's something I've complained about many times over in the comics forum. All I meant to convey is that the intent of the creators is have the focus on a younger, less experienced officer and see them rise through the ranks and develop, and they have put that premise out there as a form of promotion. This is a departure from what's come before. All previous Star Trek TV series (and all the original timeline movies, for that matter) have had the central character as the one in charge. Sisco was in command of DS9, and all other shows starred the captain of the ship. This is going for something, actually, almost like Kirk in the first JJ. Abram flick (which again, would be an origin story), but here it's a character we've never met. I do think that's intentional to some degree. I would imagine CBS/Paramount would like to get fans of both the modern movies and the older series on board.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2017, 10:40:15 AM »
so...wow.  episode 3 was unlike any other Trek show I've ever seen.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2017, 04:35:48 PM »
Well, if anyone's interested in a rather objective opinion, I am familiar with ST, definitely not a fan, but I didn't think the show was half bad.  I hear the complaints about the format and potentially wasting two full meaningless episodes. I get that.  But the way I see it, most shows(less nowadays) typically fill seasons with random meaningless episodes that don't really advance plot anyway.  This did.  It may be majorily disconnected from the rest of the series but it was a fun start.  Enough to give us a "lay of the land" for non-fans.  A good enough hook.

As far as comparisons to The Orville, and it out trekking Star Trek, I suppose that could make sense for NOW.  I dont see that lasting.  How you gonna have a show with "discovery" in the title named after a exploration vessel and it not be about exploring and adventuring in fantastic locales?  Even still, if I were a fan I'd be interested in the advancement of the story. Or to see themes and characters I enjoy.  Like having a Star Wars movie about someone not named Luke. Or an X-Men series about some mutant kids.  I'd be fine with that as long as it seemed familiar to me.  From where I sit and my rather scant ST knowledge I think it does.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2017, 06:09:45 PM »
Interesting episode.Shades of Alien.
Somebody has to say it,so- Stamets is gay,right?
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2017, 06:29:01 PM »
Interesting episode.Shades of Alien.
Somebody has to say it,so- Stamets is gay,right?
I'd think so. Anthony Rapp is out and I'd see him wanting his character to be gay as well.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2017, 07:54:37 PM »
Interesting episode.Shades of Alien.
Somebody has to say it,so- Stamets is gay,right?

One of the characters is, so probably that's the one.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2017, 03:54:42 PM »
The spore-drive thing just raises too many questions.  :wacko:
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2017, 04:01:21 PM »
They bought it at Pod People R Us...
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #39 on: October 10, 2017, 11:25:29 AM »
i said it earlier in the thread, I'd heard that after the pilot they started doing wacky sci-fi monster of the week stuff like they often saw in the older Star Trek shows, and they certainly did, but with a healthy dose of "look what we can do" in the special effects department. So now instead of TOS trying to test how many times they can try to take glittering vapor and a blanket that looks like it's made out of pizza and make them scary, now we've got Lockjaw's grotesque cousin, who reminds me quite a bit of the redesigned demons from Doom 3.
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Re: Star Trek Discovery
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2017, 12:09:24 PM »
Was that Lance Reddick as a Vulcan admiral?
Spore drive plot plays out exactly as you expected.Also,the can say sh*t and f*ck now.
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is still kind of a dick move.
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