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Offline Panther_Gunn

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2019, 02:49:31 AM »
I'm recording it to watch later, but missed last night's episodes.  Any idea how crucial they are to the overall storyline?
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2019, 02:53:44 AM »
If you are in the US, you can watch it from the CW website with some anoying ads.  And the Batwoman one is absolutely vital.  Can't skip any of the main Crisis episodes.

the Black Lightning episode is just a tie in and can be safely ignored.

Also try to avoid watching the CW until you've caught up.  They are spamming the channel with ads for Part 4 which spoil some things.
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2019, 05:33:16 PM »
In the U.S., you'll probably be able to watch it on On Demand.

I watched all 3 episodes so far in a row last night/early this morning. My thoughts (ie, don't read if you haven't watched yet!):

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2019, 10:09:36 PM »
So I want to point something out since I think it might be overlooked in all the big splashy ____ dies,  ____ meets ____, etc.

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Edit: quick correction, the son of the Brandon Routh Superman, James, was actually alive as of meeting his father, just not "at the planet" per the Batwoman showrunner.
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2019, 01:45:26 AM »
The Crisis has certainly been interesting so far. Some random thoughts.

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Overall, I feel like this crossover had all the right ingredients (a great comic to base it on, lots of set-up in several T.V. shows, lots of good guest stars), but that it hasn't been terribly impressive so far. Still, we'll see if the last two parts can stick the landing.
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2019, 04:07:18 AM »
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2019, 04:06:22 PM »
So now that I can actually log on the board (yep, I've been having problems with that too) I must make a correction. I said Marc Guggenheim said there wasn't going to be a crossover next year. What he actually said is that there would not be another large one next year. It would be a smaller one. Which I actually think is a good idea. Like with the MCU, (again, Engame) it's the perfect time for a breather. The comics side of Marvel and DC could learn a lot from that mentality.
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2019, 12:34:39 AM »
Kevin Conroy as a crazy Batman. Nice touch.

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2020, 10:24:48 PM »
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2020, 05:18:46 AM »
Indeed. My reaction was to joke that Oliver Queen/Steven Amell is trying to imitate Emperor Palpatine and shoot out some Force Lightning. Or he's Cole McGrath from Infamous doing the same.

That does bring out a debate I've had for a while. Does bringing the Spectre into the story at this point feel like a cop-out or a Deus Ex Machina, if you ignore the comics/to people with no knowledge of The Spectre in the comics? Like, I think it's neat he's in this at all, but I feel like Jim Corrigan/the concept of the Spectre should have been set up a LOOOONG time ago (much like multiple Earths and alternate versions of heroes like Superman and Flash were set up a long time ago). As it is, it kinda feels like The Ray in Earth-X, like they're going "oh yeah, here's this other character, he's part of the story now too."
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2020, 06:36:38 AM »
From that poster, Oliver as The Spectre more or less looks like Oliver as Arrow, but with no mask, glowing eyes and a cloak.

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2020, 06:02:32 PM »
See, I agree that the specter an its purpose should have been setup sooner for it to feel more appropriate, but tbf people called the move even before he was a confirmed thing, so if he'd been introduced last year it would have ruined any chance of it being a surprise (not to mention letting fans get attached to a character that they were planning on getting rid of)

Honestly though, I feel like Oliver taking over that role is wholly appropriate. It gives him a more or less definitive ending, explains why he isn't underfoot in GAatC, but keeps him around if the writers need him. It also basically closes off exactly the loopholes they showcased, such as Lazarus pit resurrections, because there's no reason Barry or his kids would leave him dead otherwise.

As for his appearance, that's actually appropriate. Remember when Hal was the Spectre, and he took on classic GL type traits? I imagine the same thing in this case.

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2020, 07:41:08 AM »
I thought Hal as the Spectre was a stupid movie in the comics, even though I own 2 issues of JSA featuring him that I got Keith Champagne  to sign at a convention.

Oliver as the Spectre makes sense, though. He's been haunted by all the killing he did in the past as Arrow, but redeemed himself somewhat by sacrificing himself to save all those people.

Also, notice Nash is Nash and not Pariah on that poster?

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2020, 01:22:33 AM »
Okay, it's still on, but I had to stop and post over my shock about the

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EDIT: Finished it. Enjoyed it.  Still processing some things, but a couple of things from the ending, including one rather huge departure from the comics.

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2020, 04:38:47 AM »
Don't forget

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2020, 04:41:43 AM »
Well, I just finished watching Endgame again.  :P I kid, I kid. Pretty enjoyable. I'm actually (mostly) pleased with how the final episode wrapped up, and having them both on the same night actually made a lot of sense.

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2020, 05:08:35 AM »
The previews also confirmed a suspicion that I had.

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2020, 09:44:09 AM »
I checked out the promos for the other shows:

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2020, 02:06:52 AM »
I was disappointed that there were not more cameos.

My thoughts on 4 and 5, and the future of the shows:

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2020, 02:15:46 AM »
One interesting thing I just learned

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2020, 03:27:48 AM »
Well, in that case...

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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2020, 05:23:01 AM »
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2020, 03:41:10 AM »
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Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths.
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2020, 05:48:41 AM »
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