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Offline abenavides

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Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« on: May 15, 2020, 11:28:49 PM »
I'm trying to fix a bug that was reported in the FF Classic mod.

When Nick starts talking in Mission 5, game crashes as there is no head.nif for him in FFv3R.
Can't use the head.nif from FF as the game engines have different number of morph channels, so they are not compatible.

I looked through FFv3r for possible stand-in head and found blackjack seems close.
Of course, Irrational decided to skin them pretty differently !  :banghead:

So if anyone can help, I'm requesing one of these:
- a nick craft skin rearranged to match blackjack's
- a nick craft skin rearranged to match male_basic (there are ffv3r male_basic talking heads, right?)
- these are the quick fixes but open to any other suggestions ( I can go with 2d head in a pinch but hoping theres a better way)
Thx!
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 11:58:09 PM »
Would the Liberty Lad head.nif not work?

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2020, 12:07:36 AM »
Great idea! Let me check on that
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2020, 12:20:59 AM »
Unfortunately, Liberty lad is mapped differently too.
(and he has his mask as part of the mesh so it would look weird)
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2020, 01:03:12 AM »
So, having no artistic ability I can't help with the actual requests, but until you can get someone to fill them, you can always use the default head.nif that just uses the character's portrait.  That's not a perfect solution, but it would work as a stop-gap.
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2020, 02:28:42 AM »
Thx Benton, I did put that in already as I check some other things on the mod.
I have C+ photoshop skills so I also made a quick attempt to rearrange the skin.
But it looks so scary , I went to the 2D head   :(
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2020, 05:02:28 AM »
Ha!  I know Tommy did a TV Head, which might work for Nick, maybe?  I don't remember if it were FF1 or 2....I THINK it was 2.
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2020, 05:32:20 PM »
Might have to give that shot - would like mean reskinning, but might be easier for me than the blackjack one.
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2020, 08:14:21 PM »
Somebody who can use Nifscope could possibly edit the head mesh to read from the Nick skin. I'll look, but at present I don't have very high hopes (Windows 10 issues).

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2020, 08:26:00 PM »
I tried that but it seemed to screw up the head nif  when I ran the mission.
Also, as nick skin is mapped differently, I'd still need a corrected skin
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2020, 08:34:21 PM »
I tried that but it seemed to screw up the head nif  when I ran the mission.
Also, as nick skin is mapped differently, I'd still need a corrected skin

Nifscope will let you move the mapping around, but there are limits. I took one of Atomic Robot's Dirty Harry skins and made it fit Male Suit v2 with Gun, and moved other stuff around. I was talking about Tommy's head nif, not the others.

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2020, 10:27:12 PM »
I think Nick has been on steroids or something... either that, or you need a real Skinner.


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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2020, 10:32:05 PM »
Man, Freedom Force messed up that blood transfusion really bad.

He's like Popeye, but with his thighs.

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2020, 10:51:21 PM »
Haha!  :lol:
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2020, 12:43:53 AM »
 :D

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2020, 01:31:14 AM »
 :thumbup:
Yeah, eyes were the problem I had too :) but you did much better than me!
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2020, 04:22:54 AM »
 :liberty: "Hey, Minuteman, I ..... I don't feel ... so ... good ...... *"

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2020, 07:54:49 AM »
Hey Alex i could do the transfer on male basic if you are still interested.

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2020, 03:08:48 PM »
Sure, that would be great.
(would be for Tommyboy's ffv3r head right? Is that the ffv3r male_basic we have?)
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2020, 06:53:13 PM »
I think Nick has been on steroids or something... either that, or you need a real Skinner.



He looks like the work of a 12 year old attempting to draw an Anime art style on DeviantArt.  :D

...can you post that skin?

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2020, 04:05:07 PM »
ok this is what i have for you my friend, hope can be of some use.----download link: https://files.fm/u/p5kszz2k
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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2020, 04:25:02 PM »
That looks excellent, Nait!

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2020, 07:29:53 PM »
I bow before the Master!!!  :D

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Re: Nick Craft skin for different mesh
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2020, 12:56:19 AM »
Thanks Nait! I'll try it out right now!
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