Here he is, my all-time favorite Avenger.
I liked the color scheme he had in House of M, it was neutral purple all over and I tried to duplicate that here, along with his current costume. The third skin in this pack will be his Ultimates garb; the mesh is Vertex's VX_Male_Archer. With alpha enabling you can easily switch between the costumes (the mask will be alpha'd invisible if you select Ultimate Hawkeye, and his shades will become visible among other add-ons.) Just realized I forgot to put on some of the straps! Back to the Photoshop...
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/hawkeye.jpg)
Oh my stars and garters! Nice one Rev! Very nice indeed! :thumbup:
He's my 2nd favorite Avenger! :D :P
Nice, I like!
Great looking Hawkeye there my friend.Can hardly wait for the Ultimates skin. Keep em' coming.
Kssaints
Awesome job . I luv the Uniform
Quote from: Revenant on February 02, 2007, 01:51:00 AMJust realized I forgot to put on some of the straps! Back to the Photoshop...
Don't forget those little arm studs as well..... :D :P
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/blkcasanova247/hawkeye.jpg)
looking good rev, excited to see what you do with the ultimate version :D
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on February 02, 2007, 10:40:54 AM
Quote from: Revenant on February 02, 2007, 01:51:00 AMJust realized I forgot to put on some of the straps! Back to the Photoshop...
Don't forget those little arm studs as well..... :D :P
LOL
Yo did you add the "DO IT." or was he already saying that?
He was saying it....just a "happy little" coincedence. :D
your work is realistic!
i like them so much :thumbup:
Rats now I got to learn how to shoot a bow and skin, :doh:those look great.
wow, those are awesome. Incredible detail and highlighting!
Beautiful
This pic is for you Cas:
I fixed up the color alot. He's way darker in the House of M story.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/hawkeye2.jpg)
Very Cool! And (I didn't think that I could say this about this skin but...) 100% better! :thumbup: Can't wait to get my grubby little paws on this pack! :D
Fantastic work on the skin Rev :cool:
I can't say I like the costume design at all though. Clint can't seem to hit the target when designing his costumes lately.
What? You don't like the one-boob man bra look? Are you crazy? :blink: :lol:
I have to agree with C6 about the costume design. I like the mask (and especially the fact that it has the old school smaller.....wing mask, I guess you'd call it?) and boots, and that is about it for that design. My two favorite Hawkeye costumes of all time are the one he had during Buscema's run on Avengers back around the time the Vision first appeared and the West Coast Avengers (regular series) outfit.
Various shades of purple and no dark or navy blue in sight also don't help.
Great work on the skin, though, Revenant. :)
Rev, I agree with everyone else here great work as usual. The only difference in opinion I have from some is I love that costume. One of my favorites.
I'm going to have to put my vote in the "like the costume" pile. I actually skinned a varient on that from when it first appeared back in Austen's Avengers.
I've got to say the highlighting is just getting absolutely amazing. I mean, it already was, I guess the shiny metal is just making me notice it even more now.
I'll be honest, I don't even like Hawkeye. Never have. This skin though, is just great. The only thing that looks sort of weird is that strap by his crotch.
Quote from: Xenolith on February 03, 2007, 08:53:03 AM
What? You don't like the one-boob man bra look? Are you crazy? :blink: :lol:
being a very amatuer archer-wannabe in real life, i'd say the leather chest piece is ment to protect his chest from accidently being zapped by the bow string when he releases. many archers wear a bracer on the inside of the wrist they hold the bow with for much the same reason. getting grazed by a bow string while fireing *hurts*
I like the skin, Rev, as usual. About the costume, I prefer good ol' classic Hawkeye.
Excellent skin! I like the new look, "one-boob bra" and all. One criticism, and flame if you want. The mask looks a bit big on the mesh compared to the comic. (almost Loganesque). Is there a chance of a hex or skope to shrink the mask down? Probably being too much of a stickler here, as the skin is fantastic as is!
i think that Rev actually skoped the mask from a logan mesh...
and ironically, since everyones calling it the one boob bra, when the amazons would cut off their breast, it would be on the side that the "one boob-bra" would cover... completely defeating the purpose of it being a bra.
Been away for the weekend...
Quote from: daerdevil on February 04, 2007, 07:41:32 AM
Excellent skin! I like the new look, "one-boob bra" and all. One criticism, and flame if you want. The mask looks a bit big on the mesh compared to the comic. (almost Loganesque). Is there a chance of a hex or skope to shrink the mask down? Probably being too much of a stickler here, as the skin is fantastic as is!
I hear ya daerdevil, it is a bit big compared to the ref pics, I will fix it using the alpha of the skin so the nose and eyes are still in the correct position. Incidentally, it is a tommyboy versatile piece!
Quote from: detourne_me on February 04, 2007, 08:31:02 AM
i think that Rev actually skoped the mask from a logan mesh...
and ironically, since everyones calling it the one boob bra, when the amazons would cut off their breast, it would be on the side that the "one boob-bra" would cover... completely defeating the purpose of it being a bra.
LOL...
Last night I finished the Ultimate version and was all set to preview it, and put the pack together when... I accidentally saved the refl.tga over it! And I strangely didn't have a backup ( I usually do being the klutz that I am)
So I have to re-do it... but on the plus side, the refl layer is still there... :rolleyes:
EDIT: This'll also give me time to hex the bow so it looks like the one he uses in Ultimates.
I love the way you skin fabric - when's the tutorial coming out? :D
Awesome skin - I'm on the fence about the costume though...
Quote from: GhostMachine on February 03, 2007, 09:06:38 AM
My two favorite Hawkeye costumes of all time are the one he had during Buscema's run on Avengers back around the time the Vision first appeared.....
I totally agree. My fave.
Great skin (as usual)!
Finally done, one hex and three skins are available in the pack.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/hawkeye_3pack.jpg)
he's in my yahoo group for now: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/revenant_skins02/
i really love how you were working with alpha channels here! i posted a little bit ago about putting a bunch of mesh pieces together and alpha'ing them out on a skin by skin basis, and you actually acomplished it here.... this guys definately going to get a random skin in the hero file!
Now that is impressive! Thanks for the minor tweak on the mask. I think it's your fine attention to detail that makes your work so great, and these definitely show it. Good stuff!
Gah, busy busy week, got alot to catch up on @_@ i'll grab these an (once i've played with them myself for a bit :P ) get them uploaded asap, aswell as sorting out that ftp @_@
OK now after that tweak to the mask these skins couldn't be anymore perfect, and better yet, you've still maintained your unique Revenant style. Also I have to agree with AA on this one I do love this costume, one of my favourites. Also Ultimates is one of my favourite series so the ultimate hawkeye skin makes me a very happy chappy. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
INCREDIBLE! I mean that. :thumbup:
Wow Rev, that's some really great work. Hawkeye looks absolutely perfect. Great job!
Quote from: detourne_me on February 08, 2007, 04:25:34 AM
i really love how you were working with alpha channels here! i posted a little bit ago about putting a bunch of mesh pieces together and alpha'ing them out on a skin by skin basis, and you actually acomplished it here.... this guys definately going to get a random skin in the hero file!
Cool... I am seriously thinking of updating more of the Ultimates so they can be switched out like this. Now that enabling the alpha channels is so quick and easy, it can free up alot of hard drive space by consolidating the different versions.
What about these random skins?...
EDIT: Speaking of different versions, and versions that wear red shades... I've got something else coming up in that vein...
do it... you know you want too..... heh heh heh
using mr. brdo's hero tool you can set the hero files so that random skins appear... as long as you don't edit the hero file in game (i.e. the last editing you do to the hero file is setting the skin as random in the hero editor)
wow. the ultimate hawkeye looks awesome. nice job. :thumbup:
Quote from: detourne_me on February 08, 2007, 04:19:08 PM
do it... you know you want too..... heh heh heh
using mr. brdo's hero tool you can set the hero files so that random skins appear... as long as you don't edit the hero file in game (i.e. the last editing you do to the hero file is setting the skin as random in the hero editor)
Does that work with FFvs3R? What if you have 3R exclusive attacks like cones, possession for instance?
Quote from: Revenant on February 08, 2007, 08:04:01 PM
Does that work with FFvs3R? What if you have 3R exclusive attacks like cones, possession for instance?
The way I have been doing it since I've been rebuilding my hero files from scratch for FFX3.2 is do a rough version of the character then leave FFvsT3R to go to Mr. Brdo's Hero Tool for weight/body type and change the skin to random if needed. Then go back into the main game and add all of the attributes and powers that are exculsive to FFX3.2 and finally leave the game to use the FFX Control Center for the final touches before doing the Power/AI phase of the Rumble Room.
Edit: Awww... anyone have a copy of Mr Brdo's hero edior they can send me? I think my copy just somehow got corrupted and I can't find the disc that I had my backup copy on.
- CrimsonQuill
This hex & skin was requested by Crimson Quill... hope ya like it! I hexed the VX_Muscular_Male onto VX_Baron_Blood's bones to utilize his more feral keyframes, which have claw attacks-aplenty. Skin is based on the Ultimate Avengers 2 appearance of Black Panther.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/bp1.jpg)
Quote from: Revenant on February 11, 2007, 07:15:04 PM
This hex & skin was requested by Crimson Quill... hope ya like it!
WOW! Looks great... and it finally allows me to create the complete Ultimate Avengers in my Rumble Room. :thumbup:
Now it just needs to get posted so I can droo...uhm... download it. :rolleyes:
- CrimsonQuill
wow
Fantastic Ultimate Black Panther. Has my old hex put to shame. Skin looks great as well Rev. So what's next after the Black Canary?
Panther is uploaded to my 2nd yahoo group for now: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/revenant_skins02/files/
After Black Canary... I dunno, there are still Wanda and Pietro's ultimates skins. Then maybe some of the villains.
I'm getting into alpha enabling, so that one mesh can become a number of hexes depending on the skin. Detourne_me has been putting some together and i am dying to skin them...
We could even do something like a chain letter, where each person recieves the nif, adds whatever bits they need to, and releases it with a new skin to the next person, and so on... and that way build up versatile hexes for each character.
Here is Black Canary, sporting two skins, the modern costume with and without jacket (which is alpha enabled.) Thanks pwime and Dartman X for the help with the fishnet texture!
EDIT: Also included is the alternate outfit, probably her most well-known look.
This is one alpha'd character.nif, and four skins... it's a hex of Vertex's female_heels. I tried to alpha the hair so that one of the skins could be a ponytail version, but ran into that alpha layering problem...
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/BC1.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/BC2.jpg)(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/BC3.jpg)
wow, that skin is beautiful.
I want a girlfriend with legs like that ;)
Excellent work as always rev
Nice texture work. Just Damn!
Here is a work in progress... so far I have:
-The Golden Age costume (needs some work, will have sandals also)
-Justice League Heroes /pre Infinite Crisis costume (ignore the face, it's wack)
-One Year Later costume
On the way are Ultimate Wonder Woman, 70's TV series, the Biker costume (if the alphas will be nice to me and let me put a jacket on her) and a Greek goddess costume. Any other requests I'll gladly make, if it's possible!
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/WW1.jpg)
Great work on Canary, the hair is awesome and the fact you put it on a VX mesh means some cool animations such as a voice attacks. So far the wondies are looking great too!
there's something striking me as off about black canary's face, it's almost the generic anime girl look... very non-expresive :(
[just noticed, central wonderwoman's cheekbones are a little prominant, she looks like she's on her way to starving to death @_@ ]
You know something, you're right about Canary... I used Wonder Woman's face as a model and tried morphing it, but maybe I should just start her face from scratch. I was going for the look of the actress who plays Nikki/Jessica on Heroes (but more cute)
Yes beware Wonder Cheekbones!! She is probably going to team up with Ultimate Hulk's Gamma Nipples in the next Brave and Bold...
Quote from: ips on February 14, 2007, 12:23:49 PM
hey rev,
really nice work on everything really... really love the hexing work you have been doing. opens up so many characters. i'm jealous. ;)
canary's hex is amazing but i love the "billboard" hexing you are doing also.
as for skins... ur stuff is always a good show. i love canary's lips but agree her eyes look a little off. and i saw that you said wonderwoman's face isn't final either so i'll let it be ;)
i missed the redtornado stuff u msgd me about. is there anywhere i can see that stuff? i'm really eager to see how it came out
Hey ips, sure.. The first pic is the final version of red Tornado. The second is an animated gif from the middle stages, which gives you an idea of the whirlwind's motion and appearance. I've toyed around with making a youtube video in-game, and got the footage in fraps but youtube didn't accept it :huh:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/Reddy2.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/RT.gif)
Alright Rev! That WW is just what I've been looking for. It's coming along pretty well, keep up the great work. :D
Ultimate Black Panther... Black Canary... Hawkeye... WW...
Wow, Rev! You're doing a great work here. A lot of skins with your usual quality. Fantastic.
Black Panther in particular is truly amazing...
Black Canary's face is fixed:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/BC_new_face.jpg)
For now, she's available in my 2nd yahoo group... once I figure out this FTP thingie, she'll be sent over to the Asylum.
That actually sounds kind of grim...
So, this is how you actually create your faces? By matching the character with a celebrity? Interesting...
I love Canary and Black Panther but Wondy takes my breath away. I am still in awe over the Red Tornado nifskoped mesh. I have to design a character to be used with that mesh.
I love Black Canary man... The refl is used so well, it's incredible.
And I can't wait for Wonder Woman. But, since you are asking for requests, do you think you could manage to add a little cape to that? I'm thinking it'd be swell as Quitely's version of Superwoman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Evil_Superwoman.jpg).
EDIT: Heck, if you do that, maybe Lois Lane's Superwoman from All-Star Superman. Okay, I'll stop now before I go nutty.
Here is the preliminary release of the Wonder Woman hex. Keyframes version 0.1 are a seperate download, since my PC is slow making keyframe hexes, I'm going to release what I've got so far, and I'll release an updated set soon. Also 6 skins are included (I accidentally erased my JLH skin and had to redo it, but I like the second one better now.)
Check out the second yahoo group for the download!
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/revenant_skins02/files/
EDIT: Oops! I totally forgot to include a preview pic of the Toga Party skin. Oh well, i guess it's a hidden bonus skin. You can see it on my hex editing thread :P The others are Golden Age, Biker Style, Standard, Justice League Heroes, and modern Superwoman.
I'll be releasing skin pack 2 which will tentatively have:
Golden Age Superwoman
Good Superwoman (from All Star Superman)
Ultimate Wonder Woman
some other Alternate universe versions (DK2, JLA: The Nail)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/ww5pack.jpg)
stunning work my friend as always.
on a side note you be better getting a google page the way an pod did its a lot easier than a yahoo group.
Hi Revenant,
Again great work on Wonder Woman! She is outstanding.....I am wondering, while you are at it if you have considered throwing in a Justice Lords Wonder Woman??
Respectfully,
Sioux City Dynamo
I just wanted to give you a head's up, Rev, that the keyframes that you have in your yahoo group for Wonder Woman is empty. It only has a read me file, but no kf.
Great hexes, by the way! Black Canary has been my favorite person to use now.
my wonderwoman keyframes too.. :(
great work Rev!!
Niiiiiiiiice work on Hawk Eye, Rev! I personally like the skin with the studs on the purple sleeve best. Now the question is, when and where will the skin be available for download at!?
Again, awesome work, man!
Quote from: Dr.Volt on February 25, 2007, 06:07:09 AM
Niiiiiiiiice work on Hawk Eye, Rev! I personally like the skin with the studs on the purple sleeve best. Now the question is, when and where will the skin be available for download at!?
Again, awesome work, man!
Hey doc, it is available in my second yahoo group for now (until i figure out this ftp thingy)
and then at freedom asylum
link for the yahoo group is in the post..
And the wonder woman keyframes will be available soon, I forgot to stick them in the folder before I uploaded it!
Quote from: triviaman on February 25, 2007, 01:46:07 PM
Hey. quick question.
What kf's are one to use with WW?
Really nice work by the way :thumbup:
The post right above yours said he'll be posting the WW keyframes in his yahoo group soon. :)
Keyframes are coming soon, Detourne is helping me with them. For now here's a WIP of a new skin:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/joker.jpg)
It's on tommyboy's joker_tvlite mesh
DUDE! :o......That is one creepy lookin' clown! :mjboo Nice work.
Hey love the skins.
Trying to use the Black Canairy and the jacket is looking strange with huge white patches on it.
Hey triviaman, can you post a picture of that? I might be able to help better if I can see it. I just did a clean install from the yahoo group and noticed a mistake in the skins. the JLU with jacket didn't actually have the jacket. To fix this youself is really easy, copy these files from the folder with_jacket
jacket.tga
jacket_refl.tga
jacket_glow.tga
And paste them into the folder JLU_Style_Jacket
That solves that problem. Let me know if that helps
GAH!
... Seriosly Im trying to think of a way to say that it is the ugliest joker I've seen without it sounding like anything but a compliment. He's totally going to become my default joker once released since Im a huge fan of the villain actually being scary.
Hey.
Well the jacket was added but there are still those white areas on it.
you can find pic's of it here
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s7/Triviaman/bc2.jpg?t=1172648470)
The Joker Now? most excellent!
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/detourne_me2/files/ (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/detourne_me2/files/)
I've uploaded preliminary keys of what i've done so far. please keep in mind these are FAR from complete. will update as soon as i can, it takes quite a while to port keyframes.
I hope you guys can find good use of them :) please let me know if they dont work in FF, they don't need to be converted for FFVTTR, just like Rev's wicked hex. plug and play rules.
Okay okay the Joker was a little scary, here's something nice to look at, another work in progress:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/DP.jpg)
Triviaman, about that blotchiness, I have seen it before but I can't remember the cause. I think the game is missing a tga file. It could also be a problem with the alphas. Try doing a clean install and let me know if it persists.
Nice! Super Agent Diana Prince. :thumbup:
I've seen Trivaman's problem, when I had the standard skin file missing a tga, but it was present in another skin's folder. However, once I made a hero with the other skin, saved, then restarted, it appeared fine. Still, I'd say go with the fresh install.
That Joker... holy cow. He looks positively... well mad. Like he will soon stab you.
Diana is looking nice too. Look at how little of that is actually white... and yet it looks very clean and bright. A little dark when you get down to the legs, but I guess that's only natural.
Seriously though, you keep doing these great skins and hexes just one after another. Take a break. Have a sandwich! Okay, no... I don't want to deter the amount of awesome coming in.
Sorry Unkoman, I can't stop! I'm on a roll
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/cheetah.jpg)
oh man that's awsome :thumbup:
can you give us a hunch when the relese will be?
Hopefully tonight I will be able to release the Cheetah. I might try to hex her claws so they are larger, but the skin is just about done.
That modern Cheetah is awesome, but is it just me, or is she wearing crotchless pants? Kinda defeats the purpose of pants, if you ask me.
nah if you look at the human version you can see that she is wearing full pants made up of half leather half leopard/cheetah skin material.
Rev-you ARE on a roll. its scary how damn good these recent works are looking. with nifskope you've taken your already impressive and unique style to a whole new level, giving us detailed true to source renditions of our favourite (or your favourite ;)) characters. thank-you and i cant wait to see whats next!
Talavar, yeah the pattern on the pants accidentally turned out to be smaller scale than the one on the upper body. I guess I'll leave it so that it looks slightly different, otherwise visually she is wearing crotchless pants, even though she's not.
I'm still getting used to this new Cheetah design. Perhaps I'll do a third skin in the set of the Perez "nekkid" version.
I love the wonder woman love but wouldnt sunglasses from one of ink's xtreme x-men mesh such rogue or sage be more like agent prince' shades.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on March 01, 2007, 05:19:00 PM
I love the wonder woman love but wouldnt sunglasses from one of ink's xtreme x-men mesh such rogue or sage be more like agent prince' shades.
I agree. The Xtreme Xmen shades would probably work better and of course be more "true to the book". Although I'm kinda diggin the square frames though....call it a personal prefence. ;)
Hey
Downloaded the Cheetah mesh but once again I have to ask about Kf's
Hey go to newpowerinc.com, and click meshworks.. there is a link to all the Vertex keyframes. Try the female_brute set, it has some claw and bite attacks. For the human Cheetah the Martial Artist set has some great moves and it would make her act different before she undergoes the transformation.
I have FFX and I set up Cheetah to transform between the two forms.
I love the updated Cheetah. That's so awesome.
I have a question for you, Rev. Have you considered doing some of the other WW villains like Dr. Poison, Dr. Cyber, Trinity, Queen Clea and Cyborgirl? I would love to have some Villainy, INC action in my rumble rooms.
Quote from: Revenant on February 26, 2007, 05:20:37 PM
Keyframes are coming soon, Detourne is helping me with them. For now here's a WIP of a new skin:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/joker.jpg)
It's on tommyboy's joker_tvlite mesh
i'm the joker in the pack!
Quote from: laughing paradox on March 03, 2007, 07:17:58 AM
I love the updated Cheetah. That's so awesome.
I have a question for you, Rev. Have you considered doing some of the other WW villains like Dr. Poison, Dr. Cyber, Trinity, Queen Clea and Cyborgirl? I would love to have some Villainy, INC action in my rumble rooms.
I'm planning on getting around to all of them. Osira will be a special hex with the pyramid energy field. Dr Cyber would need a hex as well, and some fx to simulate her growing arm beam attack.
Doctor Poison has long been on my to-do list... I'm leaning toward the new Dodson designs for all of these.
Quote from: Revenant on March 03, 2007, 03:00:37 PM
Quote from: laughing paradox on March 03, 2007, 07:17:58 AM
I love the updated Cheetah. That's so awesome.
I have a question for you, Rev. Have you considered doing some of the other WW villains like Dr. Poison, Dr. Cyber, Trinity, Queen Clea and Cyborgirl? I would love to have some Villainy, INC action in my rumble rooms.
I'm planning on getting around to all of them. Osira will be a special hex with the pyramid energy field. Dr Cyber would need a hex as well, and some fx to simulate her growing arm beam attack.
Doctor Poison has long been on my to-do list... I'm leaning toward the new Dodson designs for all of these.
That's awesome news. I'm really looking forward to those.
I gotta say I really really like the Joker evil is cool.
just curious were you able to fix the probelms with some aspects of the joker mesh appearing darker in character tool than in game
Thanks cvc, the face is going to get some more work done on it.. I am using a certain ref pic for it but it's been kinda rough getting it to look right
Ultimate_evil, I used the emissive color trick in NifSkope to brighten up some of those dark areas while skinning. I haven't tried him in game yet though.
Here are the latest skins, first using Symon's great advice for obtaining a wiremap for meshes, this Thing skin is done on the FFvs3R snow man mesh. I'v ewanted to do it for a while, I'm a big fan of skinning the Irrational Meshes, and using non-male_basic based ones wherever possible (I like variety I guess) Then Hawkgirl Kendra (based on app in JL by Ed Benes) done on a Vertex female with heels and shirt, and a bunch of Frankensteined pieces. I think female characters wearing heels is important. I don't know why.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/ult_thing.jpg)(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/ult_thing2.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/HG.jpg)
Great thing skin! I like the detail you put into his costume.
sweet a ult thing!
i hope theres susan and torch next!
Pretty cool skins, Rev. Where were you when I was planning my abandoned ultimates/ultimate MU mod? Anyway, may I ask what mesh thing is on? Something about it makes the skin look a little off to me. :S
Quote from: Revenant on March 05, 2007, 03:58:14 PM
Here are the latest skins, first using Symon's great advice for obtaining a wiremap for meshes, this Thing skin is done on the FFvs3R snow man mesh.
Hey previsionary, oops! I was ninja'd!! :P
Is it the feet that look off? I am planning on skinning them to work around that toe deformity the Snow man seems to possess. I'll probly do the skin on a traditional Thing mesh too, eventually, for it's head-sculpt accuracy.
i ninjad!!? :ph34r:
yeah the thing looks like he got 2 toes and yeah
Quote from: Revenant on March 05, 2007, 03:58:14 PM
Ultimate_evil, I used the emissive color trick in NifSkope to brighten up some of those dark areas while skinning. I haven't tried him in game yet though.
hmm so that makes it look normal in CT, you'll have to show me how you did that, i dont play any more and just do skins for art now for about the past year or so, thats why i stopped skinning tommys joker, cause i could just preview it if you know what i mean.
wow. i am LOVING that Hawkgirl skin.
great work, as always...just amazing.
Yay im so glad someone has finally updated hawkgirl's skin! Looks awesome as always. :thumbup: :thumbup:
OH MAN YES! YOU USED THE SNOWMAN MESH!
I kept planning different characters to skin on this mesh (check out my Super Cracker redesign in the art forum) but not doing them... It's great, really. The idle pose is awesome.
Wire maps for those meshes, eh? That would be very useful indeed. As some may know, I share your love of skinning Irrational's meshes. I like it when a character has a very unique shape and keyframes. It just gives them more personality.
As for the skin itself... It's very bright. I looks almost... more cartoony than your regular skins. It's a little awkward in places, like the mouth, but I don't know if that's just because of the mesh or not. The rocks look more like cracked clay than jutting stone. That may be due to artist reference. Still though, it's pretty good.
Gosh, I say pretty good, but that's in context of your skinning specifically. In general context it flippin'... wait for it... rocks! Still, if you went back and touched it up, you could probably give it that extra kick. At least add shadows to wear the body suit ends. Don't be all forgetting shadows like I keep doing...
Hawkgirl is also darn awesome. I don't think I have any feeble pointers for that one.
OK, coming to this way late. But just thought I'd throw my spare change in that Hawk Girl looks AMAZING! Fantastic work!
Just one question though, is she available for download?? I didn't see her either on your yahoo group websites yet. Actually I didn't see Super Agent Diana Prince either. Am I missing something??
how about a skin of the THINGS original appearance before he got his orange stone hide.know ones done his original look.it would really work well with the snowman mesh.where is the snowman mesh located?
Hey the new skins should be released fairly soon, Diana Prince needs some straps and her pouches need to be re-skinned, also the legs haven't gotten their highlights done.
Hawkgirl is ready, she is compatible with Vertex's keyframes, but detourne_me is planning a hexed set just for her.
I'm going to fix the stone texture on the Thing, roughen it up a bit and he'll be done. It's in the draft stage right now (anybody who has Photoshop will recognize the "stained glass" filter... ) For his human appearance, what would he be wearing? The space suit, civilian garb, or his FF costume?
i think his ff garb will be cool or his civlian clothes
Quote from: Revenant on March 08, 2007, 01:04:03 PM
Hey the new skins should be released fairly soon, Diana Prince needs some straps and her pouches need to be re-skinned, also the legs haven't gotten their highlights done.
Hawkgirl is ready, she is compatible with Vertex's keyframes, but detourne_me is planning a hexed set just for her.
I'm going to fix the stone texture on the Thing, roughen it up a bit and he'll be done. It's in the draft stage right now (anybody who has Photoshop will recognize the "stained glass" filter... ) For his human appearance, what would he be wearing? The space suit, civilian garb, or his FF costume?
Very cool! :cool: I can't wait till they are available. I'll check in periodically at the Yahoo group. :)
i love how everything u make is like awesome!!!!!!!!!!
Hawkgirl looks kick butt! :thumbup:
sorry for the late reply, rev. I think it's just the mesh that's affecting my view. The mesh seems all out of proportion to me so no major biggie quips from me skin wise. :P
[spoiler]you skinners and your need for a challenge. ^_^[/spoiler]
Two more JLAers done, with hexes and skins courtesy your friendly neighborhood revenant:
1st up, on a Vx_Female mesh with additions from tommyboy's speedball and veratile meshes, and second, Renegade's awesome Hal_GL with a beefed up body and some glowing extras to match his current appearance in JLA:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/vixen_new.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/GL_new.jpg)
:drool:
Man! Oh Man! :thumbup:
where r these being released if they are??
I'm not sure if I can release the Hal hex yet... I have to ask Renegade if he minds! :paplease the skin will be available soon though. I basically added Male_Muscular to Renegade's Hal_GL mesh, since Ed Benes and Ethan Van Scriver's version is looking pretty buff these days, and I really like their penciling... Then I realized he needed some hair, so I looked to Ink's Cyclops mesh to match the current hairstyle. And of course the glowing billboards for his ring and the icon on his chest that seems to float above the one on his uniform. It looks weird, but distinctive. Anybody with NifSkope can easily make this.
Vixen needs some finishing touches, her belt needs one more piece b/c it looks like the parts are just floating.
amazing simply great,don't know how you do it just please don't stop love your style.
:wub:
Best. Hal. Ever.
Hell yea - that Vixen Rocks :blink:
That Vixen really is fantastic!
... That GL is one of the best skins I have seen in my entire life.
Geez, man. I don't think you can get any better and then you just keep getting better.
Fantastic stuff Rev. Love your take on Hal. Keep those awesome hexes and skins coming my friend.
The Aura on the Hal 'Skope looks awesome Rev.
As always the benchmark of quality. ^_^
drool.
dude, great as always.
p.s. got hawkgirl keyframes finished, theire in my second group. a big thank you to Seraglio and Taskmaster X. this keyframe set was hexed together in about 2 hours, tweaked and it works great. it uses the new flying melee keyframe mod too.
so you know, this means i'm going to revamp the wonder woman keys soon. maybe vixen too?
You make everyone else look bad with your awesome work. I am completely jealous of your work work both nifskoping and skinning.
I concur with the ant. Great stuff Rev!
Really nice stuff there Rev. I love your take on the new JLA lineup.
Hey Ren, any chance we'll see a classic version of the VX_Hawkgirl you've got there?
Hi Rev,
Wondering how things are coming along with Hawkgirl and Vixen? Will you be releasing soon??
Respectfully,
I thought Revenant's Yahoo Group was malfunctioning for me, but it seems all of Yahoo Groups were messed up at that time. It's all good, now.
Is there another Revenant Yahoo Group, or is there only the one?
Quote from: Revenant on March 10, 2007, 08:27:45 AM
And of course the glowing billboards for his ring and the icon on his chest that seems to float above the one on his uniform. It looks weird, but distinctive. Anybody with NifSkope can easily make this.
Hey Rev, since you haven't released (or may not release) Hal, could you walk me through how to add the glowing billboards to other meshes?
Yes Rev is definitely a double threat!
Quote from: Sioux City Dynamo on April 01, 2007, 07:09:38 PM
Hi Rev,
Wondering how things are coming along with Hawkgirl and Vixen? Will you be releasing soon??
Respectfully,
Soon.. very soon... i just have to get everything sorted. the stuff is done, it just needs to be zipped and uploaded
Great!!! I can not wait!!
Respectfully,
He's the fastest man alive... My first attempt at a Timmverse-style skin, The Flash!
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/flash_timmverse.jpg)
Thanks to Volsung for the mesh, and Detourne_Me for the excellent hex! I read an interview with the shows designers, where they talked about Flash's costume. They wanted it to look sleek, like a velour material.. so I put highlights in places off the peak of each form, as in the ref pics... and in the areas right where the shadow starts. The gold parts of his costume seem to have a dull shine, not quite metallic. This skin was pure fun, there are so many characters in the DCAU that we can crank out... Now I gotta get back to work on those JLA skins....
EDIT: Volsung is going to work on a Flash mesh, which will be a modified version specifically for him! Look for it...
wow Rev excleent job, i amn so glad that you are back to the skining biz, its so cool
I just cant wait for what you have in store for us
Yay it's Wally! He was so much fun in JLU.
Nicely done my boy! :lol:
That looks pretty sweet, Revenant. Now...imagine all this work in a custom JLU mod...*disappears quickly*
Flash is probably my favorite JLU character. Nice job! :thumbup:
flash!!! :thumbup:
Sounds gay, but ... I love his boots.
Quote from: Jakew on April 25, 2007, 06:43:14 PM
Sounds gay, but ... I love his boots.
Jakew,
Could you do me a favor and not use 'gay' in a pejorative way. My brother is gay and I dont see it as a negitive thing. Thanks for understanding.
As for the skin.....AMAZING. This Timmverse thing is great. Why didnt anyone think of it sooner? I cant wait to try these out.
Amazing skin. Does that mesh still use diablo keyframes, or are they male_basic compatible kfs?
Oh yeah!! That's is a brillient job Mr. Rev
Quote from: Monkeyman on April 25, 2007, 08:24:29 PM
Amazing skin. Does that mesh still use diablo keyframes, or are they male_basic compatible kfs?
Quote from: Revenant
EDIT: Volsung is going to work on a Flash mesh, which will be a modified version specifically for him! Look for it...
Done^^ Rev corrected his skin too.
He'll probably get Bullet's keyframes temporarily.
For now on, Rev and I will work as a team.
An accurate unique mesh for every of his Timm_skin.
Unlimited powaaaaa!
Arlecchino ... thanks for singling me out. I didn't say being gay was a negative thing. I implied that a man (myself as a matter of fact) commenting on how nice another man's boots look may have homosexual implications, while stating what I liked about a skin for a computer game.
I hope you understand now. Thanks for the moral policing and sharing that info about your brother.
I wasnt singling you out, I was just commenting on somthing I saw that I wanted to address.
It seems my 'tone' came off as aggressive.
Sorry.
That wasnt my intention nor was it to make you feel like I was being the "moral police". Please know my intention wasnt hostile in any way. While I understand the point you were attempting to make, it was still a pretty big sterotype. Not all gay men comment on each others fasion. I would have posted the same to you if you had said;
"This sounds so black......but you are a real baller." Its the same type of generalization.
Sorry for jacking this thread. If you want to discuss this further please PM me.
Man, I keep coming to look at this, and I don't even know what to say. It really does have a nice, smooth velour look to it. This Timm stuff everybody is doing is looking really great and seems to be bringing a good deal of excitement, which is always good. I can't wait to see all that comes out.
Here's the skin and mesh update^^
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS14.jpg)
Neeeext!
(BTW flash is also my favorite of the magnificent 7^^)
Amazing. Just amazing.
What he said.
You really captured Flash's sleekness. :thumbup:
Possibly a silly (and not particularly important) question, but are all the Timmverse male meshes the same height?
Wow favorite flash skin and mesh now. Great job!
This IS VERY nice work guys. Good job!!
Uhm...is Timm Flash only available for :ffvstr:??? Yep, still just have :ff:. But I can dream can't I? ;)
:faint
Thank you Volsung!!!.... first, some finishing touches on Wally. Actually, looking at him now, I think I need to tone down the shadow lines on his costume..... :blink:
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/flash_skin.jpg)
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/r373nant/ww_skin.jpg)
:wacko: im experiencing vertigo from the awesomeness. You guys are the second dynamic duo like C6 and Renegade
hey what about me and syn :o
seriously rev these look fantastic diana eyes seem a bit whide but it may just be the 2d to 3d move, i said to volsung to check out the two exsisting TAS batman games that are out, they might be of some help to you two
Very impressive WW!! Keep 'em comin'!!
:doh: my bad ultimate evil. I didn't know you worked exclusively with syn. I assumed he did those skins.
Hmm, great work guys! I do have a nit to pick though...is it just me, or does WW's nose seem a bit large?
I wouldn't say tone down the shadow lines, Rev. At least not that much. They help to give a more hand drawn feel. I think I like Wally's first head though, with the circle highlight. The added boot detail is great, though.
Wondie, I'm digging. Like you said, it's unfinished, so I'll save comments.
And Benton... if you mean from the 3/4 view, I think that might actually be her cheek.
Fantastic stuff, but I have to second BentonGrey ... there is something a *tiny* bit off in WW's face. I thought her eyes might be a fraction too small.
D'oh! I see that now, thanks Unko. In that case, she looks picture perfect guys!
ww is looking sweet rev :thumbup:
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS16.jpg)
Last wondy ^^
Revenant is a machine^^Now we work on 3 characters at the same time^^
superb simply superb
Love the face, the hair, the shading, etc ... :thumbup:
Really excellent work, it looks like a cell from the show.
Wohooo!Dynamic Duo strikes again!What about Doc Destiny?!
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS17.jpg)
Curse you Volsung, once again I want one of those in regular proportions! :P
And that skin is really fantastic!
Sweet freakin' Christmas! Dr Destiny? you kidding me? an obscure but excellent choice nonetheless, and so accurate too! I can't get enough of this new style, Volsung, great work.
Wow... That one really blows me away. Skulls in cloaks, I can't get enough of. Dr. Destiny being the next in line totally comes out of left field, but I dig it tons. Incredible!
those clothes look amazing! and the face is really clear and well-defined.
volsung and rev is the new dynamic duo!!!!!!??? :o
Quote from: Volsung on May 05, 2007, 05:33:49 PM
Wohooo!Dynamic Duo strikes again!What about Doc Destiny?!
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS17.jpg)
well, son of a gun! i just requested that guy, like, this morning! SWEET! :thumbup:
o... m... g...
those simply look like illustrations. It's hard to believe...
Cant wait to see how they look in-game, especially with FFVT3R's more cartoony world.
Thanks 4 the comments everybody.. Timmverse is a nice, lighter style compared to the gritty, Ultimates world that I've been concentrating on. Volsungs meshwork is inspiring as always!
ElijahSnowFan, We're on the same wavelength!
And yes, the random Doc Destiny heralds an mini-arc of villains... Fear them!! :huh: :unsure: :blink:
Quote from: Revenant on May 06, 2007, 01:09:50 PM
Thanks 4 the comments everybody.. Timmverse is a nice, lighter style compared to the gritty, Ultimates world that I've been concentrating on. Volsungs meshwork is inspiring as always!
ElijahSnowFan, We're on the same wavelength!
And yes, the random Doc Destiny heralds an mini-arc of villains... Fear them!! :huh: :unsure: :blink:
the funniest part was that i was watching the Justice League DVDs and while i was watching the "Only A Dream" episodes, i literally stopped for a second and said, "Hey! Has anybody done this guy?!?!?" :D
can't wait to see what you guys have in store -- it's always cool to have more villains!
That is a strange coincidence.. also
[spoiler]in the JLA /JSA crossover, which i paged through at the store b/c i'm poor... a team of heroes at Arkham faces off against Dr. Destiny, it's in the latest issue of JSA! [/spoiler]
so are u planning to do jonn!?
And yes, the random Doc Destiny heralds an mini-arc of villains... Fear them!!
Great news ... I was afraid the villains wouldn't get much Timmverse love. Fingers crossed for the full Justice League (only two left) and some baddies to smack around.
Any clues as to who the next baddie is you're working on, Rev?
No way^^
Rev, i am in love with your latest skins, really impresive how you got the Timm style looking so clean and perfect
Diana looks like a pic from the JLU modelsheets
Doc destiny, actually scares the hell out of me
really awsome
I love the new Timmverse skins, Rev! Doctor Destiny looks like something from FFvsTR. The style is phenominal!
I'm considering trying a Doctor Doom skin on that mesh in the near future.
Dag- gone, man! These are freakin' great!!! Great job the both of yous!!!
That's some absolutely stunning stuff guys! :thumbup:
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS18.jpg)
They're strong!They're legion!^^
Another baddie arrives soon
nice
WTF! :shock2: COOL! Manhunters! Stellar work you two!
Just wondering REvenant, is it easier or harder to skin these timm style meshes? It seems like such a tangent from your previous style.
I was going to request the Mahunters but I didn't want to pressure you guys. I'm knocked out. Nice work ReVol.
Is this release list correct:
released: Superman, Brainiac
in progess: Flash, Wonder Woman, Manhunter Robot, The Joker, Harley Quinn, Batman (with C6)?
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS19.jpg)
Manhunters are eclipsed!
the release list is correct.Except you forgot Doc destiny and Eclipso now (plus some other in progress).
C6 is quite overworked, he agreed to let Rev deal with the caped crusader.
Since I focus on my teamwork with Rev and other stuff,I guess I should give him Harley Quinn (And all her and joker's weaponery) to skin,otherwise she'll be delayed too much.
I'll practice texturing/skinning on something else later^^ (Such as the F Reborn mod?)
Yup, that's a lot of model in progress, but they really deserve Ackbar skills^^
Why doesn't your boy Ackbar sign up with Freedom Reborn, and post here sometime. I think he'd be a great addition to this forum! :thumbup:
Nope! Never! He's mine!Do you hear me?! MINE!
(check my timmverse factory thread)
Quote from: Monkeyman on May 09, 2007, 03:37:07 PM
Just wondering REvenant, is it easier or harder to skin these timm style meshes? It seems like such a tangent from your previous style.
Hey monkeyman, it is very much less time-consuming, because you work with limited colors and details. For this style, nearly any mass you deal with has two tones - shadow and highlight. In my other skins ,to achieve realism, i used many more shades of color... highlight, midtone, shadow, reflected light, etc..
For details, these character designs appear really streamlined compared to the designs you'd see in printed comics (especially hyper-real ones like The Ultimates, or mega-detailed stuff by guys like Ethan Van Scriver or George Perez...) I think it was done to make them easier to animate for the TV series. Also, the body doesn't show every single muscle so I don't have to slave over keeping the anatomy as accurate.
monstrous work guys.
These are hands-down some of my favorite skins in my time playing this game and being apart of the community. I'm serious.
The style isn't far from something seen in a Jack Kirby book, and that's something I enjoy very much.
Also, are these available yet? I don't know where to look.
I'm not really a huge fan of the DC comicverse since following their history of characters is as complicated as trying to understand everything in the Marvelverse read backwards in a mirror. But I grew to love the DC Animated world as I watched the cartoons over the years and probably wanted to play more within that world as the official games just failed miserably. But I'm more then thrilled to see that the FF community is bringing the Timmverse to life with these meshes, skins, voice packs, and upcoming Mods. :D
Great work guys and keep 'em coming. :thumbup:
Thanks to the Timmverse - I'm happy to be reading and gaming with DC again.
- CrimsonQuill
Though simplistic, these look amazingly good. AMAZINGLY.
Like cells come to life. Geez louize! Like everyone, I deep dig.
hey volsung....do you plan on releasing all your meshes at one time?i think the atomic skull would be awsome.
Atomic skull? Sure! Even if he's discreet in the tv show he's strong and got a good design.
We'd like to give accurate unique animations for every timmverse meshes (that's why they're still unreleased)
Revenant is a machine^^ that's not easy to follow him.
I can go faster than that, it's just that Timmverse is not my only actual 3d project.(in mind at least)
And i've got to prepare an eventual huge change in my life.
But little by little our methods are more effective.
And the more I create models, the more i can edit those to create new ones.Like a bank of mold^^
Yesterday Rev already sent me 3 skin base! to create models (and he got more in stock!)
That's exactly what I hoped.With such a cadance ,it's not naive to consider a mod.
but...
Accurate unique animation is way longer than texturing+meshing.
Ackbar won't be able to follow.Until he lowers the quality and focus only on some animations...
A tragedy^^
Maybe later, we'll consider objects ,vehicules and buildings.Those got no animations.So he can catch up with us.
(Ackbar already got the forum url,he can sign up anytime)
OMG! Rev, Volsung....Just amazing work!
Dana
J'onn J'onzz aka Martian Manhunter the the last of his kind!
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS22.jpg)
holy crap!!! :o
:shock2:
That's just nuts! :thumbup: I cannot wait till these are all done.
WOah. You guys are insane!
yes!!!
jonn is created!!!! :thumbup:
Quote from: Volsung on May 12, 2007, 10:55:28 AM
J'onn J'onzz aka Martian Manhunter the the last of his kind!
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS22.jpg)
Just when I think this cant get any better, it does!
I love the work on J'onn but his head is a bit... er... out of proportion I guess. Oh well, easy fix with the bip head node in nifskope.
Nice, love J'onn, a favorite in the show.
Holey Moley, how the heck did i miss MM? it looks great guys, the crinkles on the pants and boots are particularly nice, and the cape sheen is spot on from the show. Nice work Rev.
Man i miss skinning...Damn you, tertiary education!
Very nice work on all of them im going to love playing these in game.(is a mod on the horizon or will we have to edit our own ;))
Perfect!
Ch......OMG! :thumbup:
These are perfect Rev!
JUST PERFECT!
If you are doing animated series skins.....maybe do Ace??? (As in the little girl.)
or maybe Fire and Ice? :rolleyes:
I just saw these and I have to say they are incredible. The meshes, skins and the animation of the Joker are so genuine. Ackbar, Revenant and Volsung I take my hat off to you guys (unfortunately I do not wear hats).
Do you remember that feeling when you were a kid and you saw the coolest new toy in the store window? That's what is going through me right now :)
Welcome to War world!
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS23.jpg)
(That's a nice compliment Arilou Laleelay ^^)
Quotemaybe do Ace??? (As in the little girl.)
or maybe Fire and Ice?
I don't understand^^
Quote(is a mod on the horizon or will we have to edit our own )
As rev said "The mind races!"
Quote from: Volsung on May 14, 2007, 04:36:25 PM
Welcome to War world!
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS23.jpg)
:yipee:
What I find amazing is even though these are based on the simple cartoon look of the series they are still very complex. This is just amazing.
Wow...you guys are just pumping these out!
Great work you two. :thumbup:
sweet mongul!
In the words of Mr. Walken....
WOWEE WOW WOW!
Loving these left-of-field villains
man! all of these just flat out rock my socks off!
Are you guys planning a mod?
I'm suddenly in the mood to watch JLU :P
QuoteAre you guys planning a mod?
If our character banks increase quickly, custom animations are just to their first step.(Most of them are not even rigged to a skeleton)I wish you could see Ackbar's work^^ Simple dodging is so individualized^^
We try to not think much about a mod before reaching a certain phase (Rev and I are heavy dreamers, who easely lost contact with reality...)
Maps with Timmverse atmosphere are important (with timmverse vehicules and civilians)
Recently Rev went Berserk,running on walls,talking about Metropolis, Central City, Gotham City , Arkham Asylum ,Paradise Island map...
I'm more than comfortable with map making methods,and organisation but I still completely ignore FFVTTR contraints or nomenclature ^^ I'll take a look at FFVTTR documents.
And about a mod we didn't thought of a plotline yet.(even if ezscript offers good prospect with rumble room fight).We'd have to hire reinforcement^^
On the other hand maybe we should think about a concrete purpose.
If that's rumble room fight we can continue to pick Timmverse character randomly.
But if we want a precise plot,maybe we should list the priority characters instead moving from one thing to another.
It's a matter of lucidity and feasibility or even necessity
Just found this thread, an I'm gobsmacked at the sheer quality of these skins. Truly amazing. A-freaking-mazing.
i dropped my jaw somewhere between that martian manhuntr and the mongul
really outstanding both of you
bravo my friend bravo
Quote from: Volsung on May 15, 2007, 02:21:34 AM
QuoteAre you guys planning a mod?
If our character banks increase quickly, custom animations are just to their first step.(Most of them are not even rigged to a skeleton)I wish you could see Ackbar's work^^ Simple dodging is so individualized^^
We try to not think much about a mod before reaching a certain phase (Rev and I are heavy dreamers, who easely lost contact with reality...)
Maps with Timmverse atmosphere are important (with timmverse vehicules and civilians)
Recently Rev went Berserk,running on walls,talking about Metropolis, Central City, Gotham City , Arkham Asylum ,Paradise Island map...
I'm more than comfortable with map making methods,and organisation but I still completely ignore FFVTTR contraints or nomenclature ^^ I'll take a look at FFVTTR documents.
And about a mod we didn't thought of a plotline yet.(even if ezscript offers good prospect with rumble room fight).We'd have to hire reinforcement^^
I think I myself am leaning towards a straight-up Rumble Room brawl mod, because I don't have much experience playing mods, and don't know the first thing about scripting them. Once we are bored from making all the characters, and have nothing else to do, we can dream up a plotline and a mod?
Maybe for the Rumble Room we can do some small-scale DCAU maps. I was thinking about the ones you listed, plus War World, Apokalypse, Paradise Island with the gate to Tarterus open (battle Hades and/or Faust with an army of skeleton warriors!) The Watchtower.. Maybe an outer space map with some floating, destructible asteroids?
Yeah I sure do get enthusiastic. But once I learn how to make a map with nifSkope.. watch out!
Maybe an expert modder will lend their hand, if we go that route?
QuoteBut once I learn how to make a map with nifSkope.. watch out!
Why bothering with nifskope when you got a mesher at your service. :wub:
(Why bothering with scripts too if we can hire someone familiar with it?)
What do you players think/want?
Quote from: Volsung on May 16, 2007, 08:01:49 AM
QuoteBut once I learn how to make a map with nifSkope.. watch out!
Why bothering with nifskope when you got a mesher at your service. :rolleyes:
(Why bothering with scripts too if we can hire someone familiar with it?)
What do you players think/want?
Beggars can't be choosers, I would have a blast with just a simple rumble room mod, but a full fledged mod would have me speechless. Again either would be fun, and I can't wait to see more of your guy's work! Tremendous stuff. :thumbup:
*sits twitching in a corner from the awesomeness*
Rev... you've got this JL style down man. These skins are so cool!
What I meant was.....are you going to make those characters???
Fire
Ice
Ace
Star Sapphire?
all characters in JL or JLU
My heads gonna explode if i dont get my hands on one of these meshes/skins. THe anticipation is killing me! O I'd vote for a batman with some special Ackbar animations. :thumbup:
Just in case I am missing something, has these been released yet?
Quote from: Nymph on May 16, 2007, 07:45:03 PM
What I meant was.....are you going to make those characters???
Fire
Ice
Ace
Star Sapphire?
all characters in JL or JLU
Yes yes yes and.... yes. ^_^
captmorgan .... From what I understand, a lot of these meshes are getting custom animations, at which point they'll be released (i hope)?
Although I was wondering ... how long will it take Ackbar to animate all these meshes?
Sorry Nymph that was obvious.I understood just after posting^^;
QuoteI'd vote for a batman with some special Ackbar animations.
I was asking players opinions for hypotetic hypothetical mod^^(I've got no preference)
But Batman is the next hero we'll make for sure.
QuoteFrom what I understand, a lot of these meshes are getting custom animations, at which point they'll be released (i hope)?
Yup.Those models really need personalization!
QuoteAlthough I was wondering ... how long will it take Ackbar to animate all these meshes?
Too long...Joker animations in progress are top notch...so smoothed...He's very diligent maybe too much...
I've just tried to export his joker in progress...And Max freezes! I'm afraid the tailcoat bones are not adequate...
We're aware that we fray your patience... :unsure:
No, No, No, alot of people are going to want to stangle me for saying this but you guys take your time. I'm now dealing with little ole skopes and they're time consuming. I can imagine how much time your Timm meshes take up.
"Now THIS is funny, Mister J!"
(http://volsung.free.fr/Reborn/TAS24.jpg)
:thumbup: :wub:
wonderwoman,martian manhunter,and mongul are the ones i'm gunning for when theyre released.the good thing about these meshes are their kf's will be top notch and picked just for them.if AMAZO is done will you give him morphing abilities;like mace appears in hand,wings pop out when flying,ect...?a armored luther and dr fate would be awsome.not rushing you guys just excited over your awsome work.Question...are you going to release them all together or let loose a few along the way?
We'll certainly do Amazo^^He's simple and the hardest part is animation :P
Luthor and fate are quite incontrovertible
Quote from: herodad1 on May 17, 2007, 03:16:44 PM
if AMAZO is done will you give him morphing abilities;like mace appears in hand,wings pop out when flying,ect...?
Ooh oh thats an awesome idea! :thumbup:
Awesome Harley!
I added a reflection layer to Timm_Male_Basic using NifSkope, and did a John Stewart skin to take advantage of it. With the reflection he looks pretty cool, more like the animated series depicted his shimmering costume, and this mesh has keyframes! (Diablo keyframes ^_^ )I just want to confer with Volsung, and see if he would like to customize a John Stewart mesh before thinking about releasing him.
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i was wondering if u could add a little reflec layer to martian manhunter too? :D
Yeah definitely.. any character that has a shine to them would look cool. Wonder Woman, Flash, the Android Manhunters... it only takes about 5 minutes in NifSkope. I just wanna wait until the final mesh is done, otherwise I'll have to do the process over again. But they'll all benefit from it. (Green Lantern skin is on the Timm_Male_Basic mesh, which is rigged with bones and keyframes.. the rest are pure nifs, without animations)
That's really nice.It add so much to the mesh.My former ff characters were using reflection.So stupid of me to not use it on those timmverse ones.
^^I may very slightly edit john.The head especially (strange lips!)
If you want to test reflection on the other models, than I should send you the final nifs (since I made most of the renders, I often add the finishing touches).I can spare you time by including reflection in all the models^^
just my simple opinion but martian manhunter looks great and wouldnt change a thing.what kf's will you use for him?
Quote from: Revenant on May 17, 2007, 08:13:50 PM
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much :wub:
wasnt refering to the reflective layers...i was talking about the appearance of the skin/mesh.he mentioned about changing the head.my opinion was directed toward that.its a good looking martian skin.i like the aura around john stewart...it aplifies his appearance.its the little details that can make the difference.
Yeah it sounds like adding refl to the meshes in Max is a very easy proccess, more so than NifSkope of course.. up to now, i've been skinning baseskins-only on the Timm nifs. My usual process involves working with refl layers for shiny parts. The Timm meshes will all get those treatments, according to Volsung, but up til now, we've been concentrating on the bases and sculpting the forms. Refls are like a finishing touch.. but i wanted to preview John Stewart with it.... It makes me want to do one of Jonn J'onnz as well to see how the cape looks. With Jonn, it might be a bit too much though. But Wonder Woman looks great with refl ennabled!
man...i cant wait to play with these characters.
I actually thought J'Onn looked fine mesh wise... I just assumed he had a bulkier body than everybody. But, yeah, that isn't really keeping in line with the JLU feel. As for refl... J'Onn doesn't really need it. Maybe a bit on the cape disks, but that's it. Still, it's a good thing to have on meshes (as well as glow), just in case.
And, I'm going to be honest... seeing the JLU basic next to Superman or the more developed meshes, the basic looks a bit out of proportion too. The waist too small. The legs seem to have an odd spread. It's just got a very different feel.
Ack, I'm getting off topic. That's a sweet Stewart.
Guys nothing is frozen in^^.You're right about Martian manhunter's head i'll fix this before animation.
Speaking about animation , export finally worked.The joker seems as happy as a clam at high tide in FFVTTR.The only drawback is Ackbar relative slowness.He still don't have the motivation that Rev and I got.
(the one that make us pass our night and weekend in front of a computer screen while our youth vanish, our hair turns gray and loss , and our goiter+spare tire bulge.I haaaate youuu aaaaaall!)
Mhhh.. seriously, it's obvious. Animations is the longest step.
I guess Rev made his John's captures by using the character tool.Which got a wrong perspective.
But you guys are right, the basic was the first and of course the more shapeless.
You can't hope of a Green lantern with diablo's keyframes.
Since, as soon as I change a mesh I must 're-physique' him.
So if the 'physique' is lost I may as well work strongly on the mesh.
Adding the ring, and using the kind of arms that our current models got.Arms that are not welded to the torso.(easier physique, and avoid some weird distorsion during some moves.)Chopping arms is barbaric but the illusion is good in FFVTTR^^
I can not wait for these meshes.
Quote from: Volsung on May 19, 2007, 05:56:13 AM
The only drawback is Ackbar relative slowness.He still don't have the motivation that Rev and I got.
(the one that make us pass our night and weekend in front of a computer screen while our youth vanish, our hair turns gray and loss , and our goiter+spare tire bulge.I haaaate youuu aaaaaall!)
Mhhh.. seriously, it's obvious. Animations is the longest step.
It's not a matter of motivation. I try to make good animation, in a reasonable time... I can work faster, but I don't want to make poor animation for that, It would not have any interest for me.
The Joker is very particular, all of his movement show his personality. But for the next characters, I will probably be able to recycle the animation from one character to an other, so I will work faster.
Which character are you working on next, Ackbar?
Also,
"Speaking about animation , export finally worked.The joker seems as happy as a clam at high tide in FFVTTR."
Does that mean Joker is ready for release, Volsung?
Quote from: Jakew on May 19, 2007, 07:03:48 PM
Does that mean Joker is ready for release, Volsung?
Nope.It was capital to check if FFVTTR constraints were respected.It was just a preventive early export.
We didn't want to face an error in the bones once the animations done.
Sorry.Joker is still in progress
Girl power!
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(The render is different than usual.Since this time it comes from the 3dsmax nif viewer so you guys can check the reflection shader)
Your meshes be like perfect down to the shoes and hair! :blink:
You guys are doing an amazing job on these.
...wow. That's all I can say.
No, I can say more... I LOVE that hair! Volsung, when these are finally released is there going to be some skoping permission? Because I would love to try that hair on other meshes, if possible.
As for the skin... it's just as amazing. But the tease is so much. Too much even... I cannot bare it.
That hair looks cel-shaded ... nice :thumbup:
QuoteBut the tease is so much. Too much even... I cannot bare it.
Maybe we should stop those renders until the concerned model is released^^;
Quoteis there going to be some skoping permission?
Actually the character is composed by a single mesh.You won't be able to isolate the hair.
How would you use it? As a rigid part linked to the head?
"Oldelbastos" ,a friend of Ackbar and me, will give a hand on animations in June.He's skilled too^^
when it comes to the kf's are all your characters going to get custom kf's or will you barrow from other meshers?renegades martian manhunter kf's are excellent.grenadiers male_heavy_ironclad kf"s would work well with mongul / grundy .one more thing...jonn jonzz should be taller than the other characters except for guys like mongul/ grundy.amazo should be very tall/big(9-10 ft.).keep up the great work guys.
Quote from: herodad1 on May 23, 2007, 07:47:13 AM
one more thing...jonn jonzz should be taller than the other characters except for guys like mongul/ grundy.amazo should be very tall/big(9-10 ft.).keep up the great work guys.
We have a height chart floating around somewhere... :)
Quote from: ips on May 23, 2007, 09:09:45 AM
aresia is apparently an obscure character? at least to me. i have no clue who she is. but she looks great :)
Thanks IPS.. so you didn't see the 2part episode "Fury"?
Aresia is loosely based off the comics Fury (daughter of Earth2 Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor), but the resemblance stops at her appearance.
[spoiler]Aresia was orphaned at a young age by a senseless war, and washed up on the shores of Themyscira, where she was trained in the Amazon way alongside Diana. She harbors resentment towards all men, and sneaks off the island with enough gold and knowlege of chemical warfare to threaten all the men of the world with a killer poison gas that only affects males. [/spoiler] Weirdly, I just posted that same spoiler in the DC message boards!
thanks ips for always being there to clear things up for me. i hope my questions dont irritate you guys.
Sorry to threadjack but did Rev ever release his Vixen skin?
Hey apfarmaxis, I wasn't going to post anything til i knew for sure, but I lost the Vixen and Diana Prince skins and hexes in the interim.. I have crude beta versions but not the finished skins that I previewed. So I will be working on them once I get a few more Timmverse skins in the can for Volsung..
Sorry to anybody that was waiting on them, I wasn't sure if they were gone for good.. on the plus side, the Hal Jordan skin is still around and I'll be releasing that!
Oh no, lost?! I was actually looking forward to that Diana Prince skin.
That Hal Jordon was the one with the glowing chest icon, correct? I would love to take a look at that hex, and see what's up.
As for the hair, yeah Vol I would have used it as a solid piece on the head. I guess I won't be able to now. Would it be difficult for you to make a more stripped down version of that mesh, without the crown arm bands, and shin guards? If it's a hassle, no big deal, but I would really really love a female_basic version with that hairdo.
QuoteWould it be difficult for you to make a more stripped down version of that mesh, without the crown arm bands, and shin guards? If it's a hassle, no big deal, but I would really really love a female_basic version with that hairdo.
That will be easier if I cut the hair and weld it on a female basic.
The top of the hair are combed back because of the diadem.Such an haircut could be weird without being legitimated by an hair-band.
Anyway it won't take long.I'll see what I can do...When it will be possible.
But that's a kind of request^^ Kingpin and other past request could rise from the grave to haunt me!
(Rev and I got some great stuff in stock.And i've got something in progress for you too)
You saw the ruler coming
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Puny Earthlings, beware!!!
Quote from: Revenant on May 23, 2007, 07:57:51 PM
Hey apfarmaxis, I wasn't going to post anything til i knew for sure, but I lost the Vixen and Diana Prince skins and hexes in the interim..
Too bad Rev. I was waiting for Vixen almost as much as GL.
Quote from: Volsung on May 25, 2007, 11:49:28 AM
You saw the ruler coming
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Puny Earthlings, beware!!!
:shock2:
Yowza! Nice Darkseid...I mean "Bad" Darkseid! :lol:
look great Revenant
Sweet skins as always Rev.....I loved the look of your Red Tornado hex, but couldn't use it cause I am one of the few who doesn't have FFVTTR ;).
Aw scarletwitchlover... it might be possible to hex something similar using FF1 parts. I can look into it. But dontcha wanna get FFvs3R? Its graphics engine and FX are so much more eye-popping!
Thanks everybody.. I should have a bit of free time now, to put together the skins that didn't get released.
Diana Prince - I have to re-do the hex and skin :angry:
Vixen - I have to re-do the hex and skin :angry:
Hal Jordan - Skin is fine, and the hex is really easy to do :thumbup:
Then for the Wonder-deprived, I'll be working on some more Wonder Woman related stuff. These will be hexes and skins of the relaunch versions. I'll be doing Nemesis and Donna Troy as well as the villains.
Of course stay tuned for more Timmverse stuff as well from Volsung, Ackbar and company!!
"I am the night!"
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Quote from: ips on May 30, 2007, 10:49:17 AM
hey don't forget our frosty friend! ;)
I haven't, ips, he's "chillin"
There's a beta version ready for ya, I'll send it tonight.
Quote from: Volsung on May 30, 2007, 11:42:51 AM
"I am the night!"
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:blink: :o
*falls over with joy*
Thank you so much! Batman looks great. I can't wait to play with that mesh. Awesome, awesome job you guys. :thumbup:
YAY BATMAN! Will you guys be doing Robin(s), Batgirl, and/or Nightwing?
Holy Christmas! You amazing pair of unmitigated bastards! :thumbup:
:shock2: BATMAN!
great work! :cool:
i'm loving batman, but darksied is the first of the timm verse skins that doesnt sit right with me i dont know what it is, its just something
Excellent Batman! This thread really bugs me, because every time I check on it, I want to play with these Timm characters!
I agree with Ultimate Evil ... Darkseid is off. It may be the mesh ... maybe the waist is too skinny and the arms too tapered?
Pic: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/57/Animated_Darkseid.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Brainseid.png
Quote from: Revenant on May 30, 2007, 09:52:46 AM
Aw scarletwitchlover... it might be possible to hex something similar using FF1 parts. I can look into it. But dontcha wanna get FFvs3R? Its graphics engine and FX are so much more eye-popping!
Well my friend, with gorgeous meshes and skins such as yours and the other talented people in the communinty, I get more tempted everyday to purchase the FFTTR.... :D
UltimateEvil, Jakew, you're right.We focused so much on the head that we forget the rest.
I'll fix him as soon as possible.That's a mesh error only.But for my plea, my work doesn't restrict to mesh only^^.I also add some usefull roughed guidelines to Rev textures :P
(By the way the pics of your animated Darkseid comes from the superman tv show.The JL one is a bit different)
Did we rushed too much on Deadshot too?
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Totally cool! :thumbup: :( The waiting game is killing me though. But I suppose with custom animations it just takes time.
It's killing us too!
We got actually 16 characters.
Brainiac (actually he got Grenadier's animations)
Superman (actually he got Grenadier's animations)
Joker (Ackbar's working on him)
Harley Quinn
Flash
WonderWoman
Doc Destiny
Manhunter
Eclipso
Martian Manhunter
Mongul
Aresia
Darkseid (needs some fixing)
Batman
Deadshot
Green Lantern (needs some fixing)
we got 3 other (mysterious) characters in progress.And Rev got at least another 1 in mind.
Next week, "Oldelbastos" (Ackbar's animator colleague) will join us.
There's only one problem...For now he'll only be able to work on those DC models for... 2 weeks...
I can animate, but we must be lucid, I guess you guys don't want this pack of character to be completed in 2009.
So we'll assign a specific character to Oldelbastos.
And after that rev and I complete all the models in progress, I'll begin to mix animations from the official/released max files.
(Grenadier's,Irrationnal's)What about the brawling animations from my Kamenriders/kikaider^^
Ips^^ I'll use the wondy max files that you sent me too
At least, we can try to give unique idle and melee_idle animations animations.(Sure Style! Batman needs a stance with all the cape covering him)
Meh... Batman seems off to me, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the area around the mask needs to be reworked... If you'll look at the mask on the character sheet, the mask is much more angular, and juts out a little bit.
The refl is also bugging me... it seems like it needs to be moved ever so slightly to the left. I don't know how that's possible, if it even is, but I'd try eithor altering the refl file, or moving the omni light over a tad.
And finally, Volsung, it looks like the refl is acting really wonky around Batman's hands. I'd try adding a smooth modifier and see if that fixes it...
Darkseid update
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Tomato , for batsy, you're talking about the area between the mask and the skin on the face?
Sadly for the refl we can't do anything, the light is only used as dummy that carry the texture for the reflection, moving it won't change the reflection.
For the hands the only way to prevent the strange look would be to unwrap the hand texture coordinates in one single piece.Since that's irrationnal unwrap,so the thumb is separated.
The only solution would be that Rev edit his mask map (the one that specify the reflection intensity ) so it avoid critical areas
Nice Darkseid Volsung!
For Batman, I see what your saying Tomato.. The hands should be an easy fix, I can just accomplish the look using the regular texture, without so much reflection. Also to center the reflection on his cape, possibly i can adjust the lightmap file itself, to compensate for the omni light?
I can't believe no-one has mentioned Deadshot ... how very cool! (he's one of my favourite mainstream DC characters ... who got a nice amount of love in the Timm animated series, despite being a hard character to integrate into a kids cartoon). Kudos!
these are great. are they available for download?
Quote from: jangotangos on June 01, 2007, 03:12:11 AM
these are great. are they available for download?
:blink:
Just some newbie teasing ;-)
EDIT: checked Bats in my Character Tool, and the reflection looks perfectly centered (?). Maybe it was the omni lights after all. For my working nif, I copied the lights over from an existing mesh. The nifs I get from Volsung don't seem to have any Omni lights. Maybe the viewer that Volsung is using has the lights in a different position than the ones I'm copying, producing the shifted reflection?
Quick question Revenant, I went back through your thread, so maybe I missed it, but have any of these been released yet? I know Volsung released the Superman/Braniac 2 pack and the Timm_Basic meshes, but have any of the others been release? Don't mean to bug, just enthusiastic and curious. Thanks.
Only Supes/Brainiac 2 have been released to my knowledge. The skins are coming out with the meshes when the meshes are done.
Here's Atomic Skull!
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The flame looks great in game!
I've been quite busy last weeks because of a big job attempt in another country...that I failed.
Revenant skins feeled lonely.
And now I'll continue monitoring animations from Ackbar and Oldelbastos but i've got to stop FFVTTR stuff for some weeks...at best to the 24 of june, at worst to the 8 of july ...Some priorities take me away...
stunning
That looks great!
Cool!
Quote...Some priorities take me away...
ya know...it's REALLY inconsiderate to let your real life interfere with
our entertainment! :P
B92
Love this Mesh/Skin! The Refl on the shirt is fairly decent as well
Hey Rev, I was wondering ... are you going to do skins for the other Timmverse meshes people have skoped and placed online (like Dr Polaris, Copperhead, Aquaman, etc)?
like http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/detourne_me2
Arise from your grave, departed post! And walk again! *uses his mysterious powers of Necro-posting*
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now i'm scared!
Hot Digity! Very nice work!
Huntress!
Those look awesome in-game! I also like Atomic Skull.