While trawling through the depths of my FF achives trying to locate an obscure mesh, i came across this skin (unfortunately), the first one i ever attempted. I tried to make an american patriot hero...and i stole the hair from Dark Jared's mutant X havok i think. back then i skinned at 256x256 and i sucked. here it is larger
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/all_american.jpg)
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Ok, we all had our laugh? Good.
That was 2001 i think...years later and i'm still skinning, although, thankfully, not how i once did...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/circus_leader.jpg)
My latest self-imposed project is a whole slew of bad guys, from undead cults to subterranean races, all hell-bent on conquering your little patch of planet earth!
I was watching a friend play city of villains the other day...(GW FTW!!11!!)i liked the way they had tiered villains in gangs as enemies (as all games do i suppose). anyway these villains were all themed and i got to thinking about the general lack of villains and how much fun it could be to make up a whole bunch of different gangs of supervillains and their various flunkies...
i came up with a bunch of ideas, but i like the thought of an evil circus most of all, and managed to come up with 15(!) different members of the terrible troupe.
the one above is the leader of this as yet unnamed circus/carnival. I'm thinking he is some malevolent force masquerading as a human, thats why although he has human features, they are distorted, and too shiny (im planning on using a very very low reflect layer to make his skin look like its hard plastic rather than flesh, remember this being is trying to look like a human, but not doing a very good job!)
Following him are firebreathers, strongmen, tumblers, clowns, swordswollowers, snake charmers, an extensive freakshow, animal tamers (complete with attack lions!) and a whole lot more!
the face looks very cool & sinister :blink:
That face! Splended! Individual teeth, too... I was going to try that on a new skin, but it looked awful. Could it be because I still cling to 512x512? No, it's probably just that it's difficult.
It's very creepy. I can't wait to see him finished, and the rest of the carnival.
Actually this is the first time i have ever tried skinning at 1024x1024. its a bit of an adjustment. i'm not ready to switch to the darkside yet, but it helps on these higher detail skins i'm aiming for.
EDIT: scratch that, for faces at least i'm switching to 1024x1024!
nice work, i'm not very keen on what appears to be his cheels coming in above his lips... or how deep the ridges along his jawline look, but thats just personal taste, would you mind showing use a flat just of the head? :)
on the 512 vs 1024 debate , I think it's just a case of whatever you plan on releasing it as, i'm very inat-skinning in 1024 and resizing to 512, as it takes away the accuracy of your details, and any fine details you need 1024 for will be lost anyway
Love to...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/FACEcopy.jpg)
I'd like to change the cheeks a bit, mainly cos i want to skin a mo in there and i have left myself no room. i'm aiming for his flesh to look like its been almost sculpted onto an inhuman visage, a flesh mask that barely passes for human.
Thanks for looking in guys, more to come very soon!
thanks for posting that (was more me wanting a better look at your work than anything else :P ) after reading your vision, I take back my comments on the cheeks and jawline and congratulate you on achieving just what you were after, and I hope to see alot more work of this level from you :)
(out of interest, how will you be doing the neck? and what base will you be using? i've found when I paint a full head from scratch that I have an extremely hard time matching a base and having to paint alot more than I intended >_> )
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/tumb.jpg)
A generic tumbler/acrobat. In game they will have very high agility snd use a lot of jumping attacks and multi-hit melees, so dont go bareknuckle against these guys...i hope to recolour them so there will be a few variations, as well as different faces, hair colour and facial hair...and a female version.
The example above, well i hope he looks like a smug S.O.B, cos thats what he is.
Syn: i chose my initial colours from the range available in the base skin i used (my own variation on paradox's base) so it matched nicely. i'd hate to do the neck from scratch as well as a face!
And as far as work of this level, well i can't attest to how successful i'll be each time, but my goal is to never use the generic base face i have relied on for so long, i'm looking to make each face unique to the character.
Thanks again for your input and interest.
Wow, I really need to a few lessons from you guys because that face is amazing. Like Unko, I'm all about the 512x512 maybe one day I'll join the big boys club.
Funny you should say that AA, cos it was your habit of making unique faces for each skin that got me thinking about it. then when i saw Syn's recent skins and deathsjester's character faces, i just knew i had to get in on it, so blame yourself! :)
wow, you've been really busy. I love these two!
Awesome work
Great work man, and those faces are really unique. I have a suggestion, though. It seems to me like the skin tone on the Tumbler's face is just a tad lighter than it should be, in comparisson with the rest of his skin.
Yes, I was going to mention that. The head and chest colours don't match up. It actually looks a bit less saturated, to me. Also, while very good (I think I'm going to redo my Creeper eyebrows to something similar to these) some of the facial highlights are a bit too blocky for my taste. Specifically lip, chin, and those two random ones on the ends of the jaw. If this guy is also wearing a faked skin sure, but from the non-warpedness... coughcough... he looks like he's suppose to be human. I'd just blend them a bit more, so they are there but not so harsh.
Anyhow, I like the character. I love giant collars for some reason. If you can find a way to get the female version on the same mesh so we can just have one character set to random, that would be sweet, but... Well Rev and detourne have been doing some crazy nifskoping.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/strongmann.jpg)
needs boots, bracer detail/colour and his own face (swiped the tumbler's til further notice, the faces ar ethe fun part so i leave'em til last!) detail on his briefs and some slightly grotesque veins and he should be done.
i'm really going for the over the top simon bisley musculature here, this guy is the generic slow dumb and uber strong guy, so dont get too close.
with the boots and briefs i hope he will look like an old school prowrestler. i'm looking forward to skinning his face, round and dumb, that'll be an interesting challenge...
as for th issue of the tumbler's face not matching his neck, yeah you guys are right turns out the featureless base i used to build his face on had been slightly desaturated for the ringmaster, but its a simple fix.
...i'm afraid to stop skinning, if i stop, it might go away...and its 3:30 in the morning...but i still have 12 more characters to go in the circus!
Heh your definately on a roll, I like the little higltights, tho a few of them look a tad over-random.
i'll just keep watching as the circus unfolds ^_^
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/strongo.jpg)
last update for the night, its time for some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's. i couldn't let the big galoot be stuck with some other guys face, so here is the strongman's look...yeah he's a real charmer alright. He still needs eyebrows, but meh, zzzzz's, thats what 'I' need.
G'night FR, more to come tomorrow (hopefully).
Bloody hell Carr! You're skinning prowess just grew over night. Next time we speak you're gonna have to give me some pointers mate. Excellent work :thumbup:
Yeah your faces are on a whole new level! Nice work!
Wow, that is simply amazing. It great to see you skinning again especially with such awesome ideas! Incredible facework as well, you've really outdone yourself.
Thanks guys, i appreciate the feedback and comments, make syou feel somone other than you gives a damn :)
And just to prove i haven't slacked off...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/clowwn.jpg)
Yeah...scary clown i hope. There will be a bunch of these guys, (i'm hoping for five variations, but we'll see, there is no end of reference material for scary clowns these days, there is even an article about them on Wikipedia!).
Truth is i've spent my time well, 'skoping a bunch of meshes to function as the circus. After a little trial and error, and some help from a few FR'ers, i've managed to get a handle on that particular skill. For the most part the introduction of Nifskope is whats motivated me to get back into skinning with a vengeance. with so much opportunity now available, i can't not skin...
in retrospect i need to shrink and redo the eyes (he looks stoned), change the red on the mouth to be dirtier and apply a highlight to the nose
I think I just pooped my pants a little bit.
Seriously that clown scared it right out. Tinier, beady eyes will just improve upon it. Maybe do something about the inside corners of the mouth, where it's just white. I guess you want to contrast with the lips but it seems like this should be more shadow than anything. These new faces of yours, though, are blowing me away. It's like everybody's gotten suddenly even more talented...
As for the strongman... I say don't give him any eyebrows. Makes him look even more neanderthalic.
Man!!! No wonder why my wife hates clowns. Those look great, amazing detail on the faces.
Man everybody can do great faces bar me :angry: Fantastic work and I like it when you guys show your first works makes the rest of us feel better.
He'll be done once i remember where the hell his bowtie is mapped, and when i can get motivated to skin white on white cloth wrinkles (yuck).
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/ringo.jpg)
Aside from that he is just about complete. i tried to match the colours, not always so easy as many of you will attest i'm sure.
One down, too damn many to go ;)
Is the Ringmaster on a Tommyboy mesh? If so, I really like how you did the feet on this guy. That square toe looks round. Great job on the plastic faces. You idea reminds me of the Overlords from T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents. They were "aliens" who turned out to be from the earths core. Keep it up, they look great.
those skins face look pretty freaky to me lol
Looks pretty good. Maby if the're all completed, hero files could made to download.
Car, Your faces have just gotten so good, and the texturing of the ringmasters jacket looks sweet!
this is definately one group of baddies i can't wait to see in action!
Thanks Detourne, im having a great time putting these guys together-i cant wait til they are done either!
Quote from: kkhohoho on February 24, 2007, 11:06:17 AM
Looks pretty good. Maby if the're all completed, hero files could made to download.
I am definitely including hero files when i do them. i'll prolly release the hero files in related zips/rar, i.e. all the church in one zip, all the circus in one zip etc.
Wow, that is some intense work there, Carr! Definitely digging the Ringmaster, and what I've seen so far of the clown is great. Maybe I should finish up working on my MUA clown voicepack to go with it...
I hope so, i'd love to have voices for each of these characters...i'd record them myself if need be, but i live between three pubs, a highway and an industrial trainline...there is no such thing as quiet around here...on the plus side the rent is dirt cheap!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/clowwwwn.jpg)
This is intended to be the standard skin for the clowns, just needs some more work on the hair.
Its a skope/hex of Texas Jack's Toad, with the tounge and some of the hair removed, and the nose and baubles on the chest added. there will be at least three other skins for the mesh so that when you randomise the skins in game you should get a fair bit of variety.
For those who haven't checked releases lately, I've set up a yahoo group to house my newest stuff until NPI is updated, the link is in my signature. Get some skins and hexes, try'em out and lemme know what you think! I won't post the circus stuff until i have more of it finished.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/harley.jpg)
an early WIP pic of the harliquinn/jester characters from the circus. i'm thinking these guys tend to be bosses of the clowns and are accompanied by a small pack of them wherever they go.
do you guys reckon she should have the frills around her ankles, (like she does here) or lil booties like robin/dick grayson/robin hood wears?
This whole set is a great idea, Carravaggio! they look amazing and will prove very useful in the long run. Hae you considered doing a scary clown thug on the runt mesh? I always wanted to do a gang of joker henchmen with clown paint using that mesh. Also you inspired me to work on my Joker skin!
Can't wait to see what's next!
Well you already know I'm a huge fan, Carr. I love the creepy clown, and the concept itself as a whole.
I've always said we need more villians - how many times can you kick the snot out of 'thug 2'? :)
Quote from: Dartman X on February 26, 2007, 06:52:44 PM
Well you already know I'm a huge fan, Carr. I love the creepy clown, and the concept itself as a whole.
I've always said we need more villians - how many times can you kick the snot out of 'thug 2'? :)
My thoughts exactly. i mean, i'm still using the stock standard badguys from the original game. this is my attempt to change that trend.
Thanks for checking in, more on the way!
Quote from: Revenant on February 26, 2007, 06:46:36 PM
This whole set is a great idea, Carravaggio! they look amazing and will prove very useful in the long run. Hae you considered doing a scary clown thug on the runt mesh? I always wanted to do a gang of joker henchmen with clown paint using that mesh. Also you inspired me to work on my Joker skin!
Can't wait to see what's next!
Me either, especially since i KNOW whats next! I had thought of doing some 'thug-clowns' to act as scary roustabouts for the carnival/circus, and the runt mesh is perfect, after all thos guys are scary enough as they are! Cool news to hear you have a Joker skin in the works, i'll be VERY interested to see how that turns out.
More on the weekend, University is catching up with me and its only the 2nd week back for the year!
I'm sorry, that clown is just too creepy! I don't think I can download it, without inducing some massive nightmares. Let me know when you do some Care Bears or something.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/clown111.jpg)
second clown, more to come soon.
well the skins look cool the clown looks reallly freaky though
im lovingthis soo much Carravaggio!
clowns and trolls were the only things that made me scared in my childhood, and to see one of these fears come to such ... realization/fruition is great!
however a little critique, i nthe latest preview it looks as though his facepaint doesn't completely cover his jaw, not a big thing i know, since clowns like to keep a distinct neckline.
but yeah, great stuff. now we need a circus map to accomodate these baddies!
Nice one, his face is so detailed!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/harliu.jpg)
an update on the harliquin mini boss character, its pretty much done, i just have to reskin the gun and do a few touch ups.
an update for the strongman character. i think he looks a little plain, suggestions, anyone?
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/sman.jpg)
by the way, these guys own in the rumble room!
next up, either the Fortune Teller, or the worlds tallest woman!
Quote from: Carravaggio on March 02, 2007, 07:54:53 AM
an update for the strongman character. i think he looks a little plain, suggestions, anyone?
Hmm...of the top of my head I'd say maybe deepen the red....put some laces on the boots and how about a belt buckle? Ooh and a couple of black leather wristbands.
Kings of the Carnivel Creations has arise!!!!???
this calls for dimmu borgir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evwYrhj-bcI
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/sstrongoo.jpg)
update for the Strongman
Flamehead: I've been listening to a lot of Dimmu Borgir, lately, maybe that was an inspiration?
Yeah man...Right on! :thumbup: He's lookin a lot beter. Nice work Carravaggio.
I was going to suggest maybe a leopard print for his trunks, but this actually looks pretty good. Those little details add nicely. Maybe some studs on the armbands, if you want to go crazy.
I'm loving this evil circus stuff. A circus of super villains is always a good idea.
Quote from: Carravaggio on March 03, 2007, 04:52:30 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/sstrongoo.jpg)
update for the Strongman
Flamehead: I've been listening to a lot of Dimmu Borgir, lately, maybe that was an inspiration?
of course :thumbup:
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on March 02, 2007, 08:00:57 AM
Quote from: Carravaggio on March 02, 2007, 07:54:53 AM
an update for the strongman character. i think he looks a little plain, suggestions, anyone?
Hmm...of the top of my head I'd say maybe deepen the red....put some laces on the boots and how about a belt buckle? Ooh and a couple of black leather wristbands.
i'd actually suggest widening the belt into a proper weight lifters belt..
Awesome stuff, Carr! For the Strong Man I'd suggest the wider belt as well (as LE said) and maybe a leopard print outfit instead of solid red. That line/wrinkle across his head (about halfway) seems quite strong -- could it toned down a bit?
Great faces and details all around.
Meh, might as well throw my hat in... He needs some more pronounced highlights on his eyebrows, or something to fill in that gap on his forehead.
As far as the design though... you're right, he needs something more... Increase the belt size, like LE and Tortuga said, maybe play around with some tatoos or something, I guess. That doesn't seem quite right eithor, but it's worth playing with.
man, i have a short attention span! no sooner do i get into a project than i find myself lured away to another.
case in point: in the midst if the 15 character strong 'evil circus' skin set, i was compelled to get back to some good ol' spandex fare, so i dug up some designs i had sketched for an all african-american superhuman team.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/sunwalker_promo.jpg)
Sunwalker was struck by a meteor that hurtled into earth's atmosphere. It altered his body forever, imbuing him with the power of a sun! (the 'sun' on his chest is a skoped on light from mr mechanical, via Rev's helpful lil trick)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/knightl_promo.jpg)
Knightlight came across a dying alien in the wilds. this alien explained that he was a protector and soldier of a great cosmic monarchy, a being of considerable honour and responsibility that defended the innocent and punished the guilty. Before he died the alien knighted the human and handed him it's glowing gauntlets, that when donned, imbued the human with vast energy sculpting powers!
Sure i'm not being too subtle here. The rest of the seven strong team are...
The Dash: superspeedster empowered by a bizarre lab accident
Nightgod: Lord of the Night, this shadowy vigilante fights to avenge past transgressions that haunt him
The Deep: Exiled from of the deepest, darkest water realm, the Deep finds a new life fighting crime amidst his new collegues
The Perfection: The pinnacle of female power and pride, her strength surpasses all mortal men!
The Outsider: Alien being, or man out of time? plucked from his reality by an errant energy field, The Outsider struggkes to make sense of our modern world, but is aided by his telepathy and density controlling powers.
Never let it be said I'm original :)
still those two were fun to skin, i hope to get the other five done before i get distracted by something else.
Sunwalker needs a lot more work, but i'm just so darn pleased with the chest sun symbol that i had to share.
C&C welcome etc.
(edited for typos)
hot friggen damn, the light on Sunwalkers chest looks SO, SOOOO cool.
I gotta give something like that a shot on one of my skins, one day...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/DASH_promo.jpg)
Caught in the wake of a malfunctioning atom smasher, the man who would become the Dash discovered he could accelerate his atoms to move and react at superspeeds!
C&C welcome
The problem with the light on the chest trick is that i'm tempted to use it for everyone! Knighlight could have it, dash could have a lightning bolt version etc. still if i use it too mush it'll become old hat.
also i'm thinking about skoping over a medival stle helm for Knightlight to better suit his motif. thoughts?
More to come soon, then back to the circus.
I am really loving the character design on all of these. You have inspired me to work on some originals while I've got the time.
Quote from: Carravaggio on March 11, 2007, 08:08:46 PM
also i'm thinking about skoping over a medival stle helm for Knightlight to better suit his motif. thoughts?
More to come soon, then back to the circus.
great skins, you've been one of my favorite skinners for a long time. about skoping a helmet.. i dunno, given the over all design, a medeivel helmet might look out of place.. give it a shot though, i could be wrong and it might look really awsome :P
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/garuda.jpg)
ok so maybe it'll have to be a roster of eight teammates, cos Rev's hexed hawkgirl has inspired me to attempt a rather ambitious hex to make the hawkman 'equivalent'.
name still pending, i'm thinking of going with garuda, but its not final yet.
the skin is not mine, its a placeholder for the original mesh
which means this is more a hex/skope preview than a skin C&D, but i can't see the sense in making a new thread for one post.
problem with this skoped mesh is...it don't work. at all. on either game. my last shot os to try the NPI style conversion pack and see if that works. all the parts are FF1, but it won't work on either game, and i dunno why. actually i might ask for help in the hex section anyway.
anyway, i wante dthis guy to be heavy with lots of little armour pieces. It uses Renegade's owlman cowl, tommyboy weapons, grenadiers armours and a vx male_wings mesh.
fingers crossed that i can get it to work...
I don't know what the original mesh was, but it's possible that something may have been deleted that was required for the animations. Maybe a cape piece, or weapon or something. Defenitely go to the hexing section for help though before you convert it.
Knightlight has a great color scheme, as for a helmet, maybe try the helmet off of Tommyboy's Prometheous mesh?
Funny thats actually the helmet i've had in mind all along. its cool looking, and its got the medival-esque grill on the front. ill give it a go, mainly out of curiosity. i think ive prety much convinced myself that he looks fine as is.
thanks for the comments guys, it motivates me to thin that eventually other people will ghet some enjoyment out of all these skins and hexes.
hmmm just notice dthe goggles on Dash, they look like they should drop down a bit. dammit more work.
i managed to get Garuda to work in FF1, but no luck in FF2 yet, which is a shame cos i really wanna support the second game with these characters (plus FFX3.2 etc.)
More to come soon, The perfection is in the works, and then its a toss up between who goes next: the deep or the outsider!
THEN its back to the carnival/circus :)
Oh man, these are awesome. An a pure ball of light for a logo is a great idea. And African JLA is an awesome idea.
Man, I love this creative surge going on. I can't wait to see what you come up with next.
NEW HEROES!!!!! :thumbup:
I'm loving these characters Carravaggio, great work as always.
It would be awesome if someone did a carnival-styled map for :ffvstr: to go with these awesome Circus meshes.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/cardinal.jpg)
Hey guys, just a quick bit of self-promotion to cross over into the release thread: the Church is complete and ready to be downloaded from my Yahoo group. Check'em out!
Above is a pic of the Cardinal as he 'deposes' a particularly nasty, genocidal dictator. Don't mess with this guy!
Edited for spelling. i need to type slower
Also, it occured to me a moment ago that 'deposes' sounds like the Cardinal might have in fact killed this guy. He didn't and wouldn't, it would be completely hypocritical of him to do that. When I wrote deposes, I actually meant that :)
Is that one of your own pictures? 'Cause it's fantastic.
Geez Carr...pick a project a stick with it, mon ami...ye are about as bad as I am with jumpin' from project to project...course that's not always a bad thing. Great work up to now...can't wait to see what else comes about.
Dude,
I just read this thread.....jeez! You're on fire!
Black super heroes without the word "Black" in their names????? Give that man a prize!
I'll start trolling for objects. If I can find a good circus tent, I'll do a "Killer Clowns from Outer Space" map!
Keep up the good work!
JM
PS--Are the circus characters done yet?
Quote from: Spectral Knight on March 16, 2007, 07:42:03 AM
Is that one of your own pictures? 'Cause it's fantastic.
yep, its a carravaggio original! i think it shows the size and presence of the Cardinal. i mean, this is a BIG guy, powers aside. then add the fact he can throw tanks around like they are toys and you can imagine what he'd look like in battle, defeating an entire human army single handedly
Quote from: Deaths Jester on March 16, 2007, 08:07:23 AM
Geez Carr...pick a project a stick with it, mon ami...ye are about as bad as I am with jumpin' from project to project...course that's not always a bad thing. Great work up to now...can't wait to see what else comes about.
Yeah, i got the attention span of a pigeon. i get part way thru something and get a new idea, then go off on that tangent. Once this new lot of heroes are done, its strictly the circus, then another group of bad guys i've got in mind...when im done there will be no shortage of cannon fodder around!
Quote from: joemama on March 16, 2007, 08:41:32 AM
Dude,
I just read this thread.....jeez! You're on fire!
Black super heroes without the word "Black" in their names????? Give that man a prize!
I'll start trolling for objects. If I can find a good circus tent, I'll do a "Killer Clowns from Outer Space" map!
Keep up the good work!
JM
PS--Are the circus characters done yet?
I dont feel the need to beat anyone over the head with the black thing, i mean black goliath and black lightning? black panther? its kinda gratuitous. just as there are teams of white, latino and asiatic characters, so likely will there be a team of black characters. glad you like the names, i'm pretty happy with them. the hawkman character is going with the handle of 'Garuda'. wiki it if you need to :P
A circus style level would rock, especially as i want to make an EZScript set of missions for the circus when they are done, and that would serve as a great end-game level where you finally confront the masterminds of the whole debacle.
PS the circus skins are nowhere near done! i've only completed four or five, that leaves at least ten to go!
Just for your interest they include...
*more clowns and acrobats/tumblers
*snake charmer, with musical status attacks and snake pets
*fortune teller with floating crystal ball minions
*firebreathers
*a variety of sideshow freaks
*roustabouts/thugs
*animal tamer/wildman with attack lions
*the tattooed man
*the fat lady
*worlds tallest man
*and an unnamed mastermind...
already done are some clowns, tumblers, the ringleader the harliquins and the strongman (almost)
Quote from: joemama on March 16, 2007, 08:41:32 AM
Dude,
I just read this thread.....jeez! You're on fire!
Black super heroes without the word "Black" in their names????? Give that man a prize!
I'll start trolling for objects. If I can find a good circus tent, I'll do a "Killer Clowns from Outer Space" map!
Keep up the good work!
JM
PS--Are the circus characters done yet?
killer clowns from outer space? i've seen that movie and it gave me nightmares
carravagio make a beared lady lol :D
Quote from: Deaths Jester on March 16, 2007, 08:07:23 AM
Geez Carr...pick a project a stick with it, mon ami...ye are about as bad as I am with jumpin' from project to project...course that's not always a bad thing. Great work up to now...can't wait to see what else comes about.
Ugh, I think I'm one of the worst for that.
*looks at unfinished Predator skin, MK11 Iron Man, Venom, Redeemer 3, and so on*
Quote from: The Pwime on March 16, 2007, 07:59:25 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on March 16, 2007, 08:07:23 AM
Geez Carr...pick a project a stick with it, mon ami...ye are about as bad as I am with jumpin' from project to project...course that's not always a bad thing. Great work up to now...can't wait to see what else comes about.
Ugh, I think I'm one of the worst for that.
*looks at unfinished Predator skin, MK11 Iron Man, Venom, Redeemer 3, and so on*
i 4gotted about the redeemer! :mellow:
i was gonna finish him! I swear!
then i started something else to take a break, and by the time i was done, my skinning talent was WAAAAAY better than it was when I was skinning Redeemer...to the point where it only made sense to start it again.
then i started something else, and then something else, and then the Predator...and now it seems I'm slowly forgetting about the Predator as well.
It seems it's always the mainstream skins i lose interest in...
what are u interested in now? avatar? original?
Wow! Has this thread ever grown overnight! I'm finally getting around to commenting...so let's see:
Carr, man....all of these ROCK! Pretty much just agreeing with everyone else's comments. Fantastic faces! Love the carnival theme concept for a villain group. The clown in WAYYYYYYYY creepy... :cool:. More villains, especially original and creative ones, and soooooooo needed. And the Church of course, is very cool. And yeah, GREAT drawing of the Cardinal! I really like the look of the African American speedster. Great idea for the hawkman'ish hero. I'll be looking forward to what comes next!
Quote from: Flamehead on March 16, 2007, 09:20:45 PM
what are u interested in now? avatar? original?
avatars are basically ALL I can really actually do. Mainstream I lose focus on, and my originals I always end up half-assing.
:doh:
and now to undo this thread-jacking...
I'm really, really digging that Cardinal pic, Carr. Really strong pose, and great work on arms and face especially.
I just started getting the members of The Church in-game, and I've gotta say, not only do they look great, but they're really fun to play with too.
carravagio's faces he makes are looking really realistic now and they're great really :thumbup:
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The Outsider!
Brought to our world in the wake of a failed experiment into mass commercial teleportation, he found himself at odds with the strange new world around him. Finding allies who were willing to help him he discovered this world was in dire need of champions to protect the innocent, a task he felt ably equipped for.
After several years fighting alongside his allies the Outsider made a startling discovery. He wasn't an alien from some distant planet, he was a human being from a time so far in the future they had evolved incredible powers, and the twenty-first century was long forgotten!
In game he will play much like the Timmverse Martian Manhunter, low on physical powers, more of a swiss army knife of characters. He will favour status changes and psychic attacks over brute force. He is more likely to dodge or phase through bullets than deflect them.
Needs some touch ups, but design wise is essentially done. C&C welcome etc. thanks for checking in :thumbup:
Edited for spelling
Cool!
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and cos i can...an early WIP of The Perfection!
Hailing from a technologically advanced society hidden in deepest Africa, the Perfection has superior strength, speed and reflexes, as well as durability to high levels of trauma. She also wears a pair of gold bracers that are the advanced weapon systems of her culture.
Despite all the advances this hidden culture has made, it possesses one great flaw: it is a heavy Patriachal society, where women have next to no rights. the men in this society see women as highly inferior, incapable of any achievement. Of course the ruling men keep all knowledge to themselves, depriving the women of equality. Without access to education and resources women can learn nothing, and so they produce nothing, therefore the men have set up a system that 'proves' their point.
Frustrated by the lack of ambition and ability in their women, the men of thi ssociety went about creating a 'perfect' woman, using their advanced science to grow a real living being. The plan was if successful, if she could prove an equal to the men, more would be produced, and a super race would be born.
unfortunately for these noobs, this gal learned fast, real fast. faster than the men could teach. She was strong and tough, and mastered their martial styles in a short period of time. whatever task they set her, she accomplished. She did this so well the men got nervous. they wondered if she wasn't a little too perfect.
the when she found out why she was created, naturally she went AWOL. she laid waste to the culture, defeating their armies single handedly.
Yet when she attempted to empowe the women, to give them a say in their lives, the right to make desicions and be citizens, they refused to do so. years of being downtrodden had convinced them that they were inferior. Disgusted at their beliefs, she left the lawed society to its own problems and set out to explore the world.
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The Deep
Exiled from a society that exists in the deepst darkest trenches of the ocean, before his disgrace he was a high priest for an ancient sea god (something akin to Cthulhu), and as such was its avatar in the mortal realm. It is unknown what he did to be exiled, or how his people managed to be rid of him, simply becasue of how powerful he is. Either he left of his own volition or his people had some sort of mystical/theological manner in which to force him out of their world.
In any event he was the first of his kind to leave the deep cities, and he took with him a fraction of his once godly power. although far weaker than he once was, he is no lightweight able to keep up with the other members of his team.
His powers include an empathy to the ways of all things in the ocean or nearby bodies of water. that includes sea life, as well as any other living entity that is currently in water within his reange of awareness. All sea life bends to his will, and he has been seen commanding bizarre submarine humanoids more fish than man.
The Deep is superstrong and highly resilient to harm, able to withstand massive pressure and trauma (a side effect of evolving on the ocean floor). He is able to control water, forming it into other shapes, or using it as a destructive force. He claims to be able to 'strike with all the weight of all the oceans in the world.' this remains to be seen. He is able to detect bodies of water as small as a glass of liquid up to an ocean by some sort of sixth sense that is not reliant on his other senses.
He can swim at breakneck speeds, and when out of water he can fly, but creating an area of liquid around him, then levitating the liquid, and himself in the process. this rather looks like he is swimming through the air. The Deep can also create water from seemingly thin air. Even in arid climates he can create water. He claims the water comes from "the Deep', a submerged dimension thosands of times larger than ours where his god dwells.
Even tho he has been exiled, it seems that The Deep retains some of the power he had before. He does not begrudge his god for his loss in stnading, rather he seems to blame himself and withstands all these events as if it were some sort of test or trial, one that he believes if he passes, will see him in his god's good graces once again.
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its early days yet, but with this preview you can now see the entire team, to one extent or another. C&C welcome, even at this early stage. ill not be keeping his tentacle beard green by the way. i'm aiming for a 'davy jones' look from POTC 2.
Love this story behined The Deep! The backgrounds of these supers are just as excellent as the skins are. Keep on going, Carr....you're red hot!
sweet skins carravagio! :thumbup:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/profile_draft.jpg)
After watching the Incredibles again i had a look thru all the bonus stuff and came across that cool menu with all the supers profiles. then of course i had to give it a go.
it was a nice coincidence, cos it ties into my next skinning project, a massive organisation that is collecting information on transhumans everywhere, but for what purpose?
Now that i have a template made up, its pretty easy to make these, so anyone feel like having their avatar's profile done? PM me similar info to the stuff you see above and i'll do it. at the risk of aiming too high i'll do the first five that PM me. if i don't get five...or one...then its just less work for me :)
i'll need a screenshot too. make it a full body, and of a decent res and size, ill shrink it and resize it as i see fit. dont send a grainy lil headshot. and dont just direct me to where i can get a pic. if you want it, you can do some work.
ok, i know its not a skin, but i'm not making a whole new thread somewhere else for one picture.
Any C&C on how to make it better, or is it perfect? :P
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/perfecti2on.jpg)
update of the perfection, trying to make her less plain. i like the differences between the white futuristic jumpsuit and the tribal nose ring and neck bands, a feel of both ultra modern and old world styles.
need shair detail, and i thin i need to skope on some different wristbands, those ones aren't mapped well to show detail.
C&C welcome etc.
Quote from: The Pwime on March 16, 2007, 07:59:25 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on March 16, 2007, 08:07:23 AM
Geez Carr...pick a project a stick with it, mon ami...ye are about as bad as I am with jumpin' from project to project...course that's not always a bad thing. Great work up to now...can't wait to see what else comes about.
Ugh, I think I'm one of the worst for that.
*looks at unfinished Predator skin, MK11 Iron Man, Venom, Redeemer 3, and so on*
No...I do beleive I might be the true worst on it!
*looks at the eighteen unfinished original skins sitting on his hard drive along with a handful of avatars and other stuff*
I love the skins, and the back story for Perfection is awesome! Nice work!
Quote from: Deaths Jester on March 20, 2007, 08:41:41 AM
Quote from: The Pwime on March 16, 2007, 07:59:25 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on March 16, 2007, 08:07:23 AM
Geez Carr...pick a project a stick with it, mon ami...ye are about as bad as I am with jumpin' from project to project...course that's not always a bad thing. Great work up to now...can't wait to see what else comes about.
Ugh, I think I'm one of the worst for that.
*looks at unfinished Predator skin, MK11 Iron Man, Venom, Redeemer 3, and so on*
No...I do beleive I might be the true worst on it!
*looks at the eighteen unfinished original skins sitting on his hard drive along with a handful of avatars and other stuff*
not meaning to threadjack, but I believe I trump this debate with 22 skins, 15 meshes, 4 animation sets, 8fx and a website update :rolleyes:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Untitled-1.jpg)
just thought i'd show you guys some more of the first few skins i did. i can't believe i found these...this is from back in the days when we had only one base skin (gryphon) and highlights and seams were unthought of.
I think those golden arm bands need to have some type of "engraved" old world type stuff on them. Maybe animal symbols or something. Sorta like some type of greek urn or egyptian heiroglyph (e.g. Fist of Konshu Moon Knight??). I think it would really pop. I see where you are going with it. I like it.
Quote from: Carravaggio on March 20, 2007, 05:58:59 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/profile_draft.jpg)
After watching the Incredibles again i had a look thru all the bonus stuff and came across that cool menu with all the supers profiles. then of course i had to give it a go.
it was a nice coincidence, cos it ties into my next skinning project, a massive organisation that is collecting information on transhumans everywhere, but for what purpose?
Now that i have a template made up, its pretty easy to make these, so anyone feel like having their avatar's profile done? PM me similar info to the stuff you see above and i'll do it. at the risk of aiming too high i'll do the first five that PM me. if i don't get five...or one...then its just less work for me :)
i'll need a screenshot too. make it a full body, and of a decent res and size, ill shrink it and resize it as i see fit. dont send a grainy lil headshot. and dont just direct me to where i can get a pic. if you want it, you can do some work.
ok, i know its not a skin, but i'm not making a whole new thread somewhere else for one picture.
Any C&C on how to make it better, or is it perfect? :P
Fascinating idea! Perhaps kind of like a Dark Conspiracy, "big brother" type organization? I like it! There are many such stories that come to mind from popular media...it seems that Marvels current Civil War series has an element of that. There is just something very appealing about a story of a secret, spy type organization that knows a great deal about the histories of characters, is tracking and manipulating them. There is also many other stories outside of Supers type stories...such as Alias, 24, Lost etc. The overarching mystery and suspense of such story lines work very, very well. I wonder though what type of operatives such an organization would have?
Quote from: UnfluffyBunny on March 20, 2007, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on March 20, 2007, 08:41:41 AM
Quote from: The Pwime on March 16, 2007, 07:59:25 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on March 16, 2007, 08:07:23 AM
Geez Carr...pick a project a stick with it, mon ami...ye are about as bad as I am with jumpin' from project to project...course that's not always a bad thing. Great work up to now...can't wait to see what else comes about.
Ugh, I think I'm one of the worst for that.
*looks at unfinished Predator skin, MK11 Iron Man, Venom, Redeemer 3, and so on*
No...I do beleive I might be the true worst on it!
*looks at the eighteen unfinished original skins sitting on his hard drive along with a handful of avatars and other stuff*
not meaning to threadjack, but I believe I trump this debate with 22 skins, 15 meshes, 4 animation sets, 8fx and a website update :rolleyes:
Mayhaps...but me collection of stuff to do just keeps growing....so I'll be near ye collection soon.
As for Carr's old skins...I'm truly amazed ye found those as well....I mean, I don't even know where me first collection of skins are...if their even out on the web anymore even. Boy, those though bring me back to the early days...when skinning FF was in it's infancy and everything was so new...ahhh...those were some days....course animated textures weren't around then...so maybe they weren't all they were cracked up to be. :P
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Night-god, avatar of the night!
wracked by guilt over the violent death of his parents, the youth who would be Night-god used his considerable inheritance to delve into the occult, desperate for a way to wreak vengeance on the criminals who preyed on the innocent.
During one such occult session he happened upon the ghost of Nightking, the mysterious golden age hero who had disappeared decades before. His passion stirred by the thirst for vengeance that the mortal man displayed, Nightking offered all his otherworldly power to the young man.
The result was Nightgod.
Far more powerful than his predecessor, during the hours from twilight to dawn, no man can escape the god of the night...
More a bump than a real preview, this skin has a fair bit of work to go, im not really sure about it at all. i dont know if i like the blue, or the design, etc.
sigh, skinning has been real tough lately, dunno why, i'm finding it hard to get motivated...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/gapreview7era.jpg)
thats the Nightking, in case you guys had never seen him at NPI...
Hi Carr!
Nice to see you're still plugging away there. The skins look good, only thing that doesn't look quite right to me is the armour on Night God's forearms look flat and dark (assuming it's armour? otherwise ignore me). I can see you've put highlights on them but they look like white squiggles as opposed to actual reflections. The bars on the helmet could do with looking more metallic also. Design wise? As always looking good.
I know where your coming from with motivation. I re-skinned my avatar thinking it would get me skinning more but as you say, it just seems so difficult these days, lol
I just downloaded the Church pack, and I'm really digging these characters. Not only do they look great, but the character descriptions are excellent too. Nice to see characters embodying the positive aspects of faith.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/knightttt.jpg)
hey i got motivated again.
funny how it happened.
i was playing GW and found a rare item that had a cool name. i thought the name would make a good hero name, so i drew a sketch, which turned into a skin design that i really want to skin. However its not much sense to start a whole new skin (and skope) when i have a bunch still not finished, so i spent an hour fixing this last one up.
it still got a bit to go, but im a lot happier with it.
C&C welcome.
the skinning on the eagle belt buckle is not mine (shame cos its quite good), i will replace it before the skin is released. needs bracers to be skinned. i'm also thinking about blacking out his eyes and upper face so the visor appears to be concelaing his features, rather than the batman eyes you can currently see through it.
also thinking about some shoulderpads just to bulk him up a bit. and spikey ears things
I was going to say the buckle was very nice... Ha, I'm sure you'll do a great job on it too though.
I think the blacked out eyes would be a good idea.
As for the skin itself... C'mon. It's great. What can I even say beyond that? I love it.
Awesome skin! What mesh is that on?
Glad you got motivated! this rocks ike! love the buckle too! did it come from judge dredd?
i think the face plate could use a bit more refl, or something that could differentiate it from the rest of the helkmet (or my eyes are probly tired...)
that looks like it's coming along nicely. I agree on adding some reflection to the mask/visor it'll make it look less dull and help it stand out more. great looking skin so far, I'm more then sure the final will be spectacular!
That's a fantastic skin! What was the name of the item ( it wasn't Sundering Crystaline Sword of Fortitude was it ;) ? )
I say black out under the visor and then for that really eerie effect go with glowing eyes. I mean he is the Night God after all. ;)
wow man it's all pimped out man :thumbup:
Nice work Carravaggio, it's good to hear you're motivated again. It's funny how GW got you motivated as all it seems to do for me is take my mind away from skinning. :lol:
Carr, as usual, great work! This skin looks even better than before! I very much like the segments on the costume and...yes...the belt buckle. I would agree with Death's Jester, it would be good to see his eyes shining forth in intensity. And maybe the visor is in the way...I don't know. I'm just a sucker for the "firey-eyes" effect.
Oh...and it's great to see you back on the proverbial horse. Can't keep a good man down! :cool:
I had to take the time to look at this thread.
You really have done some fantastic work in here. From the beginning, you've had some really nice designs.
:thumbup:
Dude, that's awesome. Can't wait to see what it looks like finished
I agree with the tomato ^_^
Quote from: Helix on April 30, 2007, 09:12:38 AM
Awesome skin! What mesh is that on?
Thanks, its in Tommyboy's Prometheus mesh with some liberal hexing involved.
Quote from: detourne_me on April 30, 2007, 10:30:25 AM
Glad you got motivated! this rocks ike! love the buckle too! did it come from judge dredd?
i think the face plate could use a bit more refl, or something that could differentiate it from the rest of the helkmet (or my eyes are probly tired...)
Yeah i nicked the buckle from the front of Dredd's bike. I'll have a go at messing with relf and see if i get a better result. thanks for looking in.
Quote from: Lunarman on April 30, 2007, 11:45:42 AM
That's a fantastic skin! What was the name of the item ( it wasn't Sundering Crystaline Sword of Fortitude was it ;) ? )
Actually the item was a green elementalist staff called...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01.jpg)
The Stormcaller!
For those who didn't see the original pic tha got these characters underway...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Trinity.jpg)
A re-imagining of three very popular Marvel characters to offset the previous re-imagining of the JLA archetypes. The other two are still in the early skinning stages, but the 'skoped meshes are done.
Stormcaller needs his boots, some more details on his harness and reskinning of the hammers, but he is just about done.
Next: the Technocrat!
Thanks for checking in everyone, more on the way (I got called into work, there goes my day of skinning! Damn you EB Games!)
that's looking awesome already, Carr! ^_^ I can't wait to see the other two.
:thumbup: I'm looking forward to seeing those guys in the game!
Well, I'm glad it wasn't The Ugly Stick (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Ugly_Stick) ;)
Great work on that skin so far!
Y'know, the difficult thing is to keep coming up with exceptional adjectives to describe work like this. Very impressive!!! Keep the creative juices flowing!! Good to see them!
Btw, I know that Storm Caller is likely the other dimensioal version of Thor. But he also seems to tie in with the very old, African American legend of John Henry. Very cool, man!
Quote from: Lunarman on May 05, 2007, 12:58:29 PM
Well, I'm glad it wasn't The Ugly Stick (http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Ugly_Stick) ;)
Great work on that skin so far!
Heck, I'm just glad it wasn't The Yakslapper! :blink:
Ohhhh...pretty!!
Looking good but technocrat looks a bit too much like Iron Man mark 1 with lights but then again I suppose there is only so much you can do with a man in iron suit
hell of job!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/SC.jpg)
just needs some details, especially on his harnedd etc. but aside from that The Stormcaller is just about done!
Big thanks to Revenant for his 'skoping help, as well as permission to use the textures from his Black Bolt Black Lightning skin!
Next: The Homelander!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/HMLNDR.jpg)
still very early days, i hope to get this one done tonight when i get home.
Thanks to everyone who looked in.
Ok that guy with the hammers is totally cool! Where were the shin guard/boots from?
The Homelander kicks arse! Love the use of the Judge Dredd elements, particularly the helmet. Very nice. Stormcaller is very slick, though I actually prefer him without the shin guards. Great stuff!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/HLV3.jpg)
Homelander WIP.
Quote from: Podmark on May 15, 2007, 01:56:43 AM
Ok that guy with the hammers is totally cool! Where were the shin guard/boots from?
I stol...uh, SKOPED them from Tommyboy's Ultimate Ironman, but i had to enlarge them a bit, Stormcaller has big calves...
Now its time for sleep, the time 1:40 am, goodnight FR
Ooh! I'm loving the original character designs.
Homelander looks great as well. You have an excellent eye for design!
Yeah Carravaggio, just like the artist, you works are AWE-Inspiring.....
Outstanding!! Both of those look incredible. I am truly in awe.
Neato. :D
It always amazes me how much talent you have in dangling your in-progress awesomeness in front of us and then putting another one out there just as the other one is winding down.
thanks for the comments guys, i like to hear people enjoy what i do here at FR.
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WIP of The Believer, a character who was supposed to be in the Church but i kicked him at the last minute for fear of making them too powerful. Look at the JLA in Morrison's day: they regularly had to fight gods and white Martians because they were so powerful.
But while waiting for GW to load i sketched a quick costume, which i liked, so before i had to retire to bed last night i decided to skin it.
Needs hair/face work etc. but the costume basics are done.
Why is this guy any different to the other spandexed pretty boys that make up The Church? well, because this guy's faith manifests as blue energy armour, so in game he can shift into a blue robotic energy form, which looks neat. What i am hoping to do is transport both this mesh and the robot form mesh onto one set of keys, enlarge the robot so the man fits inside it. Then alpha back the robot until it is partially transparent. Hopefully the effect will be the man and robot acting as one, so when he fights you can see the believer inside his armour, kind of like when a GL creates energy armour for him or herself they can be seen inside it.
that sounds pretty neat carravagio :)
blue energy armor sounds awsome :thumbup:
That is going to friggin' rock if you can do that. And I've got to say, I think I like this fella's logo the best of all your Church guys. There's something about it that really pops to me.
Man, you work on so many guys at once.
Excellent design Carr, I really like it.
like Lunarman, but powered by religion!
I like it ;)
I never like saying this, and I know it's WIP. But something about this guy just doesn't stand out to me. Maybe it's that white and light blue don't contrast as much as say, white and dark blue/black. But he feels a little weak, colour wise. Also, on his right hand (left from this direction) there seems to be a little jagged bit. His neckline also fades into skin :)
All in all, a good idea!
Nice work
Yeah Lunarman, you're not wrong, i'll address all that stuff before the next WIP update.
Man this next thing took me an hour to put together, but it was worth it...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01DD.jpg)
ok its kind of anticlimatic, true, but in motion it looks sweet. My Avatar twinkles and sparkles like nuclear winter does when he's in giant form. you can see the sparkles on his legs there, and they wink all over the mesh.
That sounds pretty nice. Any chance you could get us a little animation of it in progress?
Hey Carravagio, I've been trying to hex those same sparks over from the Frozen Giant mesh and I can't seem to get them to work. :banghead:
Is that what you did? And if so how did you get it to work?
I can't wait to get him in game, please can you include a hero file. I love your avatar's design and with this new addition to the design all the better.
Quote from: Carravaggio on May 20, 2007, 05:47:31 PM
thanks for the comments guys, i like to hear people enjoy what i do here at FR.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01f.jpg)
WIP of The Believer, a character who was supposed to be in the Church but i kicked him at the last minute for fear of making them too powerful. Look at the JLA in Morrison's day: they regularly had to fight gods and white Martians because they were so powerful.
But while waiting for GW to load i sketched a quick costume, which i liked, so before i had to retire to bed last night i decided to skin it.
Needs hair/face work etc. but the costume basics are done.
Why is this guy any different to the other spandexed pretty boys that make up The Church? well, because this guy's faith manifests as blue energy armour, so in game he can shift into a blue robotic energy form, which looks neat. What i am hoping to do is transport both this mesh and the robot form mesh onto one set of keys, enlarge the robot so the man fits inside it. Then alpha back the robot until it is partially transparent. Hopefully the effect will be the man and robot acting as one, so when he fights you can see the believer inside his armour, kind of like when a GL creates energy armour for him or herself they can be seen inside it.
Hey Carr, DUDE! I LOVE the idea behind Believer! What a very original idea to have his faith manifest as armor. I really hope that you can get that effect of the armoring being partially transparent. That would ROCK!! And hey, I like the idea of him NOT being a part of the Church. Oh...and fantastic skin of course. Like the colors. I dig the costume/uniform...the gold cross standing out in the midst of the blue field works well. Great face work as usual. Fantastic stuff, man!
And hey great work on your Avatar as well. Nice work.
Quote from: Revenant on May 21, 2007, 08:06:38 AM
Hey Carravagio, I've been trying to hex those same sparks over from the Frozen Giant mesh and I can't seem to get them to work. :banghead:
Is that what you did? And if so how did you get it to work?
nah, sorry to disappoint but all i did was use the billboard nif and substitute frozen_giant twinkle texture into the tga cycle. i couldn't get the original twinkle to work either, its like its locked into the mesh.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEAAAASSEEE release this version of your avatar! :lol:
Quote from: Carravaggio on May 22, 2007, 03:12:40 AM
nah, sorry to disappoint but all i did was use the billboard nif and substitute frozen_giant twinkle texture into the tga cycle. i couldn't get the original twinkle to work either, its like its locked into the mesh.
I was afraid of that! Ah well, it will probably look better to place them as billboards, that way you have more control over the placement and overall "look". Your av looks awesome though.. could you post an animated gif?
yeah its a bit clumsy but i have to be in class in 20 mins so it was a bit of a rush,
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Star.gif)
hope its not TOO big.
that's just damn awesome. ^_^
oh yeah, that's is soo awesome
Car......I reccomend you leave the new church guy bald......it would dull down the pretty boys a little plus he already looks good like that......is there a woman member of the church.....like a Nun?
also where can i find the whole set of them again?
There are two female characters for the Church, they are on the extensive 'to-do' list.
And all my recent skins can be found at my yahoo group
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/carravaggio_original
Thanks for the comments i'll take them into consideration ^_^
Female characters for the Church? Awesome!! Which makes total sense. I found the following article quoting a US poll that says that 44% of church attendees are women as opposed to 32% being men. Yeah, I know that doesn't add up to 100%...but polls rarely do for some reason (factoring in "other" categories I guess). Then again, the article also says that the women were likely over 65 (and from the Southern US). Which I'm guessing these women will not be over 65 years old. Oh, here's the source article here: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/church_poll020301.html
Btw, my 2 cents worth is if you are going to leave "Believer" bald he DEFINITELY needs a goatee and an ear ring!
And, bring on the Av no matter how big. Cooly hotness!
Has your av been released? I love the design.
nope i lost it along with everything else ever previewed in this thread and, well, i wont have time to make any of it again until the end of the year.
wow, I am incredibly sorry to hear that.
Ouch that's really sad to hear.
...cos he skinned this character:
http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41284.30
A nazi shield slinger.
Now I hate Nazis, I really do, so I never touched on ww2 with any of my skins or characters, but I had a strong image of a character, a nazi superhuman, in my head, and since I had an iota of free time i decided to skin him.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/der_uber.jpg)
Haven't decided on a name. I wanted to go with Iron Cross (but in German), but he doesn't actually have the iron cross on him. Der uberman sounds silly (to me) and every nazi team has one. And with good reason, if nazis ever did make a superhuman I'd bet good money thats what they would have called him.
So I'm still working on a name for him.
Its skinned on Tommyboy's new Captain Marvel mesh with his Black Adam keyframes and some huge bootcuffs skoped on. I love the modelling on the face of this mesh, it provides a really unique face/look beyond the old male_basic face.
Still some touch ups (rope, belt, briefs, hair) but its just about done.
C&C Welcome, as always.
For some good news, i have managed to recover or remake almost half of the skins and hexes from this thread. Most of the Circus was recovered and the JLA analogue team is almost fully rebuilt and reskinned.
Wouldn't it be ubermensch with the little dots over the 'u'?
I think you should call him der Teufel in honor of the evil scientist from the old Superman radio serial who created the Atom Man. Of course, I have no idea why the Nazis would call their own man 'the devil'.
Yeah, my German speaking brother picked that up as well, but none of the fonts had umlauts, and it was late when i posted this pic, so i couldn't be bothered putting them in.
you got the nazi sign wrong, the nazi sign suppose to be a little bit crooked
the nazi sign you did is an asian signey thing
well i'm quite proud of my lack of knowledge of nazi symbols and meaning. But i always thought the asian swastika was counter clock wise?
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/korea_buddhist_temple.jpg)
at least that's what batman comics taught me...an old jewish man whocreated a golem was abducted by skinheads, and they forced him to draw swastikas all over his house. when batman turned up he knew to track the man to the local Buddhist temple cos the jewish man has painted counter clockwise swastikas, which is a Buddhist symbol.
Does the nazi swastika HAVE to be crooked?
i guess?
i don't maybe check it out on google images i'm not that familer with nazi and asian's symbols
Excellent work Carravaggio! :thumbup: I love the weird snear and the wrinkles on has forehead. Say...what didja use for the belt buckle? ;)
Quote from: Carravaggio on August 03, 2007, 10:38:40 AM
...cos he skinned this character:
http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41284.30
A nazi shield slinger.
Now I hate Nazis, I really do, so I never touched on ww2 with any of my skins or characters, but I had a strong image of a character, a nazi superhuman, in my head, and since I had an iota of free time i decided to skin him.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/der_uber.jpg)
Haven't decided on a name. I wanted to go with Iron Cross (but in German), but he doesn't actually have the iron cross on him. Der uberman sounds silly (to me) and every nazi team has one. And with good reason, if nazis ever did make a superhuman I'd bet good money thats what they would have called him.
So I'm still working on a name for him.
Its skinned on Tommyboy's new Captain Marvel mesh with his Black Adam keyframes and some huge bootcuffs skoped on. I love the modelling on the face of this mesh, it provides a really unique face/look beyond the old male_basic face.
Still some touch ups (rope, belt, briefs, hair) but its just about done.
C&C Welcome, as always.
For some good news, i have managed to recover or remake almost half of the skins and hexes from this thread. Most of the Circus was recovered and the JLA analogue team is almost fully rebuilt and reskinned.
VERY nice work as usual, Carr!! I really like this guys look! Hmmmmm...a shield slinger, eh? Y'know, I've always liked the german name "Jaegar" (sp?)...the "J" is pronounced as a "Y" and means "Hunter". Might not fit the powers well. But it is fierce and soldierly (speaking more a commando type and stealthy type though). What do you think??
The circus? Horray!
As for swastikas, there are many variants from all over the world. Buddhists and Hindus do use the reverse facing ones, but they also use these ones. It represents different things each way. And a ton of other people use the symbol, too.
Nazis, though, mostly used the one you have. Not 100% of the time, but for the vast majority. And usually it was turn at a 45 degree angle. But again, not 100% of the time. Still, their super hero would most likely have the most well known version on his costume.
Very cool skin. Very Nazi-esque. And the face looks just great. Can't wait to see it finished.
the japanese version is the reverseof the nazi one, it's a sign of concentrating energy into one's centre, one theory of the failure of the nazi's is over the fact that as it was "backwards" it was constantly expending energy instead of taking it in, and burnt out.
of course all poppycock, but an interesting point ;)
i like the seams man the seams and the designs!
Excellent as always Caravaggio. I love the expression on his face.
Is his hair skinned on? If so, it might be worth trying to find a mesh part for it
whats next carravagio?
an army of the ku klux klan lol!
Quote from: Dr.Volt on August 04, 2007, 08:28:14 AM
Y'know, I've always liked the german name "Jaegar" (sp?)...the "J" is pronounced as a "Y" and means "Hunter". Might not fit the powers well. But it is fierce and soldierly (speaking more a commando type and stealthy type though). What do you think??
I think thats the new name of our next dirty ratzi bastard...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Untitled-1copy-1.jpg)
Thanks for the suggestion Doc! Keep'em coming.
needs the belt accessories and boot cuffs skinned. The base mesh is Gren's hawkeye with parts from hourman III and ultimate cap by the inimitable Renegade. thanks a bunch guys.
More to come soon...
soonish...
maybe...
C&C welcome until then
Quote from: Carravaggio on August 17, 2007, 07:16:51 AM
Quote from: Dr.Volt on August 04, 2007, 08:28:14 AM
Y'know, I've always liked the german name "Jaegar" (sp?)...the "J" is pronounced as a "Y" and means "Hunter". Might not fit the powers well. But it is fierce and soldierly (speaking more a commando type and stealthy type though). What do you think??
I think thats the new name of our next dirty ratzi bastard...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Untitled-1copy-1.jpg)
Thanks for the suggestion Doc! Keep'em coming.
needs the belt accessories and boot cuffs skinned. The base mesh is Gren's hawkeye with parts from hourman III and ultimate cap by the inimitable Renegade. thanks a bunch guys.
More to come soon...
soonish...
maybe...
C&C welcome until then
Wow, that's going to be his name!? Very cool!! Glad I could be of some help! Keep on skinning, Carr!!
These Nazi metahumans have some really slick designs. :thumbup:
Ach...Car, ye went and changed the look of Jaeger and made him even cooler! How can I ever try to create a Nazi anywhere close to these ye've been creating recently? I mean, I know we're working in a collab on these but ye making me look bad, mon ami! ;)
-DJ
Quote from: Carravaggio on February 23, 2007, 11:25:18 PM
Thanks guys, i appreciate the feedback and comments, make syou feel somone other than you gives a damn :)
And just to prove i haven't slacked off...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/clowwn.jpg)
Yeah...scary clown i hope. There will be a bunch of these guys, (i'm hoping for five variations, but we'll see, there is no end of reference material for scary clowns these days, there is even an article about them on Wikipedia!).
Truth is i've spent my time well, 'skoping a bunch of meshes to function as the circus. After a little trial and error, and some help from a few FR'ers, i've managed to get a handle on that particular skill. For the most part the introduction of Nifskope is whats motivated me to get back into skinning with a vengeance. with so much opportunity now available, i can't not skin...
in retrospect i need to shrink and redo the eyes (he looks stoned), change the red on the mouth to be dirtier and apply a highlight to the nose
Um yeah about this is this the toad mesh of Texas Jack?
Oh yeah this is just a question but are you receiving any personal mails from Deaths Jester?
Yep that toad is a skope of Texas Jack's. As such it has NEVER been released and in fact wont be. A while ago i lost all my FF stuff. In that time i discovered that TJ's stuff is off limits. All the clowns have since been transferred to a skope of INK's Toad mesh.
Yes, I on occasion receive PMs from DJ, why do you ask?
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/forcntitled-1copy.jpg)
Nazi force wielding superhuman, able to create fields of solid energy in a variety of forms, from protective fields and barriers to simple objects. Originally a German agent who showed minor telekinetic potential, the Nazi scientists created a ring that focuses and enhances his power greatly, enabling him to go from moving small objects to moving tanks with his mind.
Just needs the symbol and a face of his own.
C&C welcome!
EDIT: Boots fixed, new face, inverted ring colours, added symbol. This guy is probably my favourite of my Nazi skins thus far.
Wow a nice skin. I've only two crits: The colour of the feet doesn't really match the colour of the bottom of his legs. I'm sure you know what I mean, just check the colours.
Ok that's only 1 crit, but I've changed my mind, lol.
Excellent work!
p.s. if that's not his own face then who's is it. In my mind it seems to fit his powers feel. It makes him look smug and superior, which makes sense for someone with an powerful mind.
Yeah good spot with the boots colour Lunarman, ill amend that before i repost progress.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/zap6223278.jpg)
Elektrizität
The electric nazi, a guy who wears a mobile lightning harness around. He generates massive amounts of electric energy, and the helmet and backpack allow him to store and channel it. The blackbolt style prongs on the side of his helmet have effects on them that spit and spark electricity constantly, but you cant see it in Ctool very well. Im thinking about giving him some sort of gauntlets (REN's powerring 2?) so that the gun barrels dont just look like they are floating there.
Be sure to keep an eye on DJ's thread, if we are lucky he should grace us with a new nazi soon...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Uhsadjkhkntitled-2copy-1.jpg)
Superspeedster nazi, on VX_Johnny Quick 3
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/eagUntitled-1copy.jpg)
Early WIP of the winged member of the facist contingent.
I really like the way this team is turning out. Though I question the use of the futuristic looking Johnny Quick opposed to a more period mesh such as Bulleteer? Either way great designs and I really like the archer and the ringbearer.
Geez Car...if ye keep up like this I'm not going to have any characters to do on the list...not that I'm complaining or anything...just slow down a bit and let me catch up some! :P
As I said in DJ's thread, this looks like a very well-thought work. And it's coming up wonderfully, I must say.
Car, your work with the Religion-themed squad showed me how talented you are at creating matching uniforms that somehow are, at the same time, very personal. I mean, in spite of having a similar trend, you can tell each member has a unique style, or something that makes them different from the rest.
And the best thing of all, is that I wish this team had been together fighting against Alchemiss and company in FFv3R. I can picture them as Blitzkrieg's gang, much like Magneto's Brotherhood or Mr. Sinister's Marauders. Would have been a hell of a battle.
can anyoone prevent the nazis from wold domination!! :o
Quote from: XLR8er on September 14, 2007, 08:54:18 PM
can anyoone prevent the nazis from wold domination!! :o
If anyone is to rule this sphere, it will be me...(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Star.gif)
You should call the group `ubbermech`, not sure for spelling though, it means something like supermen in German.
Cool Nazi Meshes Carravaggio! :cool: Nice details on their costumes! My favorite is the Nazi Archer. :thumbup: I also like your avatar! The way he floats and the stars effects is awesome! :o
Those all look great Carravaggio.
Is that the Cap belt and pouches you're using?
Quote from: AfghanAnt on August 29, 2007, 08:08:46 AM
I really like the way this team is turning out. Though I question the use of the futuristic looking Johnny Quick opposed to a more period mesh such as Bulleteer? Either way great designs and I really like the archer and the ringbearer.
The Ringbearer is my favourite thus far, to play withas well, lots of TK and knockback effects, it really suits his arrogance countenance.
Good point about the mesh choice. I am a little concerned that DJ's skins suit the theme moreso than mine. His really have that WW2 era feel about them, whereas i think mine, for the most part, look like a modern Nazi superhuman resurgence (not that the heroes of FR would ever allow such a thing). I skoped the Rocketteer mesh onto Tommyboy's new Flash keyframes and it looks great, but i am concerned that I might not be able to do a cloth/uniform costume justice, spandex is really my forte. I guess ill give it a go, see how it looks. Also i would have to check to see if I could have permission to release a skoped Rocketeer mesh (although in a crunch Tommyboy_versatile would really do the same job... :thumbup:)
Quote from: Sledgehammer on September 03, 2007, 07:03:46 PM
And the best thing of all, is that I wish this team had been together fighting against Alchemiss and company in FFv3R. I can picture them as Blitzkrieg's gang, much like Magneto's Brotherhood or Mr. Sinister's Marauders. Would have been a hell of a battle.
Thats the idea, pal ^_^ Ideally i would like to put together an EZScript mod where Blitzkrieg returns to attack FF again, this time with this contingent of Nazi superhumans in tow, his logic, fight fire with fire, to defeat superheroes you need supervillains.
Quote from: bat1987 on September 15, 2007, 04:12:54 AM
You should call the group `ubbermech`, not sure for spelling though, it means something like supermen in German.
Yeah, I guess we do need to t hink of a name for the group. DJ has the better german knowledge than I (mine's restricted to dialogue fro Hogan's Heroes). We'll have to brainstorm a name soon. Thanks for the suggestion.
Quote from: Outcast on September 15, 2007, 05:42:43 AM
Cool Nazi Meshes Carravaggio! :cool: Nice details on their costumes! My favourite is the Nazi Archer. :thumbup: I also like your avatar! The way he floats and the stars effects is awesome! :o
My Avatar will be released this week, re-skoped with sparkles etc. In a way im glad i lost the first one cos I was able to do another version that actually turned out better. Keep an eye out for it. And, hey, you spelt my name right...When this world kneels before The Tyrant Star, you, I shall spare...
Quote from: Podmark on September 15, 2007, 10:57:11 AM
Those all look great Carravaggio.
Is that the Cap belt and pouches you're using?
Sure is! Ren has provided some of the greatest meshes out there to this community and they come with some unique parts that really enhance other themed meshes. (Thanks again REN!)
Next Nazi: The Beast! Think Marvel's Wildchild, but when you get him angry, think Sabretooth! A Lycanthropic shapeshifter with multiple forms, man beast, beast man, and plain old BEAST! Between his healing factor, enhanced reflexes and razor sharp claws, you guys will be in for one heck of a fight!
OMG!!!!
You`re releasing your avatar!
Can`t wait :thumbup:
can you release a hero file with him?? :thumbup:
I could...and will.
Just don't cry HAXX! when you see it. This guy is silver age cosmic badness, I make no apologies for it :). It took Captain America, iron man and Thor to take down a depowered version of him. This was me controlling the three heroes while the computer failed to use my avatar's best powers. I then played the fight the other way round, me vs the heroes.
took about 12 secs to beat them.
Edit: i'll add it took me over half an hour to beat my Av with the three heroes, and that was only cos i hadn't finished his custom FFX powers, ergo he was depowered to an extent.
i like that ^_^
Edit: A pretty long battle :D
Quote from: Carravaggio on September 15, 2007, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on August 29, 2007, 08:08:46 AM
I really like the way this team is turning out. Though I question the use of the futuristic looking Johnny Quick opposed to a more period mesh such as Bulleteer? Either way great designs and I really like the archer and the ringbearer.
The Ringbearer is my favourite thus far, to play withas well, lots of TK and knockback effects, it really suits his arrogance countenance.
Good point about the mesh choice. I am a little concerned that DJ's skins suit the theme moreso than mine. His really have that WW2 era feel about them, whereas i think mine, for the most part, look like a modern Nazi superhuman resurgence (not that the heroes of FR would ever allow such a thing). I skoped the Rocketteer mesh onto Tommyboy's new Flash keyframes and it looks great, but i am concerned that I might not be able to do a cloth/uniform costume justice, spandex is really my forte. I guess ill give it a go, see how it looks. Also i would have to check to see if I could have permission to release a skoped Rocketeer mesh (although in a crunch Tommyboy_versatile would really do the same job... :thumbup:)
Come on now, mon ami. Ye skins suit the theme perfectly...I mean, the middle and later GA heroes/villians wore quite a bit of spandex (just ake Captain America, Superman, and Batman). I'm beginning to think ye just like being hard on ye self. I mean, other than the Johnny Quick based skin (which if ye give me some time I think I might be able to ferret out some mesh pieces that would allow ye to take it back to that original idea we talked about) the rest fit the theme wonderful especially the archer, winged warrior and ring bearer. I say stay with what ye know best...if it's spandex, use it...that way we have a wide range of looks then instead of just bland pulp-esque stuff like mine.
Quote from: bat1987 on September 15, 2007, 04:12:54 AM
You should call the group `ubbermech`, not sure for spelling though, it means something like supermen in German.
Yeah, I guess we do need to t hink of a name for the group. DJ has the better german knowledge than I (mine's restricted to dialogue fro Hogan's Heroes). We'll have to brainstorm a name soon. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Shultz: "I see nothhhingggg."
HOGAN'S HEROES....damn straigth. Okay back on subject...a name for this group...hmmm...that does need to be brainstormed...hmmm..I wonder.....
Found it!
It`s spelled Übermensch and it means superhuman. I think it`s a cool name,but hey,the decission is up to u guys.
Quote from: Deaths Jester on September 19, 2007, 07:57:56 AM
Quote from: Carravaggio on September 15, 2007, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on August 29, 2007, 08:08:46 AM
I really like the way this team is turning out. Though I question the use of the futuristic looking Johnny Quick opposed to a more period mesh such as Bulleteer? Either way great designs and I really like the archer and the ringbearer.
The Ringbearer is my favourite thus far, to play withas well, lots of TK and knockback effects, it really suits his arrogance countenance.
Good point about the mesh choice. I am a little concerned that DJ's skins suit the theme moreso than mine. His really have that WW2 era feel about them, whereas i think mine, for the most part, look like a modern Nazi superhuman resurgence (not that the heroes of FR would ever allow such a thing). I skoped the Rocketteer mesh onto Tommyboy's new Flash keyframes and it looks great, but i am concerned that I might not be able to do a cloth/uniform costume justice, spandex is really my forte. I guess ill give it a go, see how it looks. Also i would have to check to see if I could have permission to release a skoped Rocketeer mesh (although in a crunch Tommyboy_versatile would really do the same job... :thumbup:)
Come on now, mon ami. Ye skins suit the theme perfectly...I mean, the middle and later GA heroes/villians wore quite a bit of spandex (just ake Captain America, Superman, and Batman). I'm beginning to think ye just like being hard on ye self. I mean, other than the Johnny Quick based skin (which if ye give me some time I think I might be able to ferret out some mesh pieces that would allow ye to take it back to that original idea we talked about) the rest fit the theme wonderful especially the archer, winged warrior and ring bearer. I say stay with what ye know best...if it's spandex, use it...that way we have a wide range of looks then instead of just bland pulp-esque stuff like mine.
Okay I went dig through the meshes and unhappily the piece I was looking for is one one of Fusion's meshes...thus knocking out the potential for 'Skoping it. Rrrr.....
I'm loving these guys Car! I'll try and brainstorm some names as well. Ohh, and your inbox is full, I'm tryin' to send you a PM but I can't! :P
DJ: I've been messing around with some older style pulp meshes, check ur PM soon for a preview
BG: Cleared out a lot of space from the Inbox, feel free to shoot any names my way, you'll get credited with anything we choose to use.
BTW, if all you guys and gals havent seen DJ's new nazi 'iron man' head over to his skins thread and do your eyes a favour, its nifty keen...or at least as nifty keen as an extremist fascist in a technologically advanced suit of power armour can get!
Quote from: Carravaggio on September 21, 2007, 08:25:41 PM
DJ: I've been messing around with some older style pulp meshes, check ur PM soon for a preview
BG: Cleared out a lot of space from the Inbox, feel free to shoot any names my way, you'll get credited with anything we choose to use.
BTW, if all you guys and gals havent seen DJ's new nazi 'iron man' head over to his skins thread and do your eyes a favour, its nifty keen...or at least as nifty keen as an extremist fascist in a technologically advanced suit of power armour can get!
OHHHH.....PULPIES!!! I can't wait to see what ye got in store, mon ami!
Quote from: Sledgehammer on September 03, 2007, 07:03:46 PM
And the best thing of all, is that I wish this team had been together fighting against Alchemiss and company in FFv3R. I can picture them as Blitzkrieg's gang, much like Magneto's Brotherhood or Mr. Sinister's Marauders. Would have been a hell of a battle.
Quote from: Carravaggio on September 15, 2007, 04:57:31 PM
Thats the idea, pal ^_^ Ideally i would like to put together an EZScript mod where Blitzkrieg returns to attack FF again, this time with this contingent of Nazi superhumans in tow, his logic, fight fire with fire, to defeat superheroes you need supervillains.
Wow. If this becomes true, it would be FAN-tastic!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/bell.jpg)
Quick update for Doc Volt! I'll fix the pink features before release. Not sold on the external mesh (male_heavy) i'd like one that fits a bit better.
Ideas anyone?
Ohh, cool effect with the layering meshes.
Hey Carr!
Believer is looking fantastic!!! I agree with Benton, the layered look works very nicely! I like that the force field is very solid looking and substantial. It looks impenetrable!!! And yet, it doesn't obscure Believer at all (his costume and what not). Y'know, I don't think the force field looks too big. Course, I haven't seen it relative to other objects in the game yet.
Oh, I like his hair...like him as a blond guy. You definitely need to keep the "soul strip" on his chin as well! Sweetness! And I've always like his costume. Simple but striking.
Carr, this is one of my favorite character concepts that you've had. I'm excited that he is finally coming to light! :cool: Can't wait till he gets released!
Great stuff!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01-4.jpg)
Mastermind/mindreader
EEEEEEVIL mind controlling type guy, will probably use a lot of blitzkrieg's powers in game. Costume is WIP and i want to make my own textures for the eye of the reich part of the mesh rather than pilfer Irrational's.
Saw Style and GGiant using a lot of irrational meshes in interesting ways, and this idea popped into my head. Took a bit of mucking about with alphas to make it work, and the brain still doesnt always display properly. Ill keep at it tho.
First the awesome skope now the awesome skin.
:faint
Eeep....the mentalist makes Geistblitz look like chopped liver!
:o wow!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/logo.jpg)
The logo for my new google pages site.
Since NPI seems to be gone for good (RIP) i decided to bite the bullet and throw together a webpage on which people can download my stuff, as yahoo groups look ugly and really bother me.
Because i am loathe to distribute anything that is unfinished its still a while off before this is done, but i thought i'd show you guys a lil something of whats on the way...I got most of my ideas on layout from AA's page, so if you dont like his you'll HATE mine :lol:
Also to come is a page where DJ and i will co-host our Nazi skins. Thats closer to completion that my own page, but it will likely not be finished or go live until all the skins are complete.
Nice logo Carravaggio! Always good to hear new websites/pages dedicated to the game Freedom Force. :thumbup:
Is this NPI , the New Power Insider? located here? http://newpowerinc.com/insider/index.htm
If it is, it doesn't seem down to me at least, i'm not sure.. :unsure: I could still see your skins there.
Dude! Nice skins.
Do me a favour and empty your inbox, I've been trying to send you a PM, lol
Quote from: Carravaggio on October 03, 2007, 03:36:27 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01-4.jpg)
Mastermind/mindreader
EEEEEEVIL mind controlling type guy, will probably use a lot of blitzkrieg's powers in game. Costume is WIP and i want to make my own textures for the eye of the reich part of the mesh rather than pilfer Irrational's.
Saw Style and GGiant using a lot of irrational meshes in interesting ways, and this idea popped into my head. Took a bit of mucking about with alphas to make it work, and the brain still doesnt always display properly. Ill keep at it tho.
Hey Car,
Can you copy the eye from the emerald_empress_t mesh and transfer it to this mesh.
Then can you delete the weapon node in your base mesh not the weapon on the eye but on the base mesh so that the beams go out of the eye. That would be cool. ^_^
I wish I had FFvtr. :banghead:
GGiant:Thanks for that heads up mate, i'll definitely have a look into this, it sounds like just the thing to top off the character!
Outcast: Yeah NPI is still up, per se, but its inactive adn unable to be updated. As such i have decided to take my newer skins to a new home. My heart will always belong to NPI and if it ever starts up again ill be the first one in the door, but right now that seems like a slim possibility.
Shazam: Done and done, buddy. its good to see you still kickin' round these here parts!
Another banner, this time for the bad guys...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/badguys.jpg)
Hey Car, Is your site gonna be all about nazis or other stuff as well?
Sounds great--I'm looking forward to the new site!
The current plan is to house my stuff on my new page and link it to ANOTHER googlepages site made by DJ and myself to house all the nazi stuff we are collaborating on. i dont want to get any facist on my heroes, y'understand... :P
...says the man who's avatar is a galaxy conquering superbeing.... ^_^
great news carra, the main batch of skinners really need to try and sort out host sites.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/nazisword.jpg)
More damn Nazis-this time with laser sword goodness!
accompanying the standard nazi troopers are these H2H experts armed with photonscimitars :P
he will have a helmet and some armour as well.
I LOVE MASTERMIND! Wow that's one of the coolest skins I've seen. Great color scheme, I'm excited to see the finished product! :thumbup:
Nazi's, very interesting...have you thought of doing Joseph Megele aka Death Angel of the SS? His nickname just conjures such fearsome thoughts, I'd be interested in seeing your interpretation. :D
Quote from: BentonGrey on October 06, 2007, 08:36:58 AM
...says the man who's avatar is a galaxy conquering superbeing.... ^_^
You got me BG :lol:
Quote from: Doctor Voodoo on October 09, 2007, 12:44:12 AM
I LOVE MASTERMIND! Wow that's one of the coolest skins I've seen. Great color scheme, I'm excited to see the finished product! :thumbup:
Nazi's, very interesting...have you thought of doing Joseph Megele aka Death Angel of the SS? His nickname just conjures such fearsome thoughts, I'd be interested in seeing your interpretation. :D
Thanks Doc, i'm quite pleased with it myself. I'm aiming to make the crest on it into a speaker so his psychic emanations can be translated into audio. As for real characters, its hard enough to justify a 'Hitler skope'. I'm a little uneasy about the glorification or fictionalisation of the Nazis. I dont like what they stood for, and i almost didn't suggest this entire project to DJ just on account of that.
A lot of games tend to downplay the activities of the Nazi party just making them another army the 'good guys' fought against. Everytime i sit down and skin a nazi characters i have statistics running through my head, this many jews died here, these crimes were commited there. It ain't pleasant. So i'll avoid interpreting real people into the game.
But fear not, by the time DJ and I are done you will never run out of these guys to knock around in the rumble room.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/mess_front.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/mess_back.jpg)
Messenger of the Church: I never got around to finishing this guy until now, Nifskope allowed me to alter the opacity of the wings to create the desired effect.
I love what you are doing with the Church characters. I can't wait to redownload them.
Wow! Those wings are awesome, I feel inspired
That's awesome Car! I can't wait to see what those wings would look like ingame!
very cool Car, I am way impressed! :thumbup:
Great stuff, Car. Makes me wish I still skinned and played the game :)
Awesome stuff Car. Top notch designs and execution.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/SAVIOUR-1.jpg)
Something i have been meaning to do ever since i read the authority
wow that halo and wings are extremely cool.
I really like what you've done here. :thumbup:
Quote from: C4 on October 11, 2007, 05:47:28 AM
wow that halo and wings are extremely cool.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on October 11, 2007, 07:04:03 AM
I really like what you've done here. :thumbup:
Thanks guys :)
Quote from: ips on October 11, 2007, 06:43:00 AM
that's a cool idea. i like that halo car. just clean up the edge of the texture so it isn't cut off and you're set!
i love that you noticed that IPS :D I should have known. I noticed it too late, but fear not, I wouldn't release it yet, not until i mess with the halo a bit more (i'm aiming for an animated flicker effect)
Thanks for the comments.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/adam1.jpg)
Adam, leader of The Chosen (thus far)
In retrospect the dark purple lines might be too dark...well back to it, this guy isn't much use to anyone without a face!
Quote from: ips on October 11, 2007, 07:57:07 AM
er um... sorry - i hope i wasn't pissing u off... :\ i just notice this stuff... animated it would look quite nice. like a pulsing glow or random glint / sheen may be nice also... regardless. very cool.
nah man i was saying i knew i could trust you to help me pick any oversight, i appreciate the feedback :) Better i hear it now than release it half-assed. Sorry what i was saying was lost in translation.
Quote from: ips on October 11, 2007, 07:57:07 AM
Quote from: Carravaggio on October 11, 2007, 07:31:40 AM
Quote from: C4 on October 11, 2007, 05:47:28 AM
wow that halo and wings are extremely cool.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on October 11, 2007, 07:04:03 AM
I really like what you've done here. :thumbup:
Thanks guys :)
Quote from: ips on October 11, 2007, 06:43:00 AM
that's a cool idea. i like that halo car. just clean up the edge of the texture so it isn't cut off and you're set!
i love that you noticed that IPS :D I should have known. I noticed it too late, but fear not, I wouldn't release it yet, not until i mess with the halo a bit more (i'm aiming for an animated flicker effect)
Thanks for the comments.
er um... sorry - i hope i wasn't pissing u off... :\ i just notice this stuff... animated it would look quite nice. like a pulsing glow or random glint / sheen may be nice also... regardless. very cool.
how do you get pissing him off from tha... Oh I get it, u thought he was being sarcastic.... :lol: :lol: I LOOOVE that you noticed my oversights :lol: :lol: oh my stomach.
Quote from: ips on October 11, 2007, 09:34:36 AM
it is such a cool idea though. i'm surprised noone beat you to a mesh with a halo sooner
Me too TBH, im glad i finally got around to it. And seriously, no sarcasm intended, i respect IPS as an artist and a forum member, he was the first to comment on ANY of my work back in the day, so I will always be interested to hear what he thinks in regards to my skins. I just knew that he would notice that flaw and mention it, its what he does, thats why we keep him around :P it wouldnt be IPS if he weren't being honest.
Cool, I like that one of the Jewish team is the first man, pretty awesome.
Wow! Very cool, very unusual/unique wings on Messenger! And I really like the halo on Savior. Well, I'm just a big fan of the Church! I agree with AA, I can't wait to download these guys (including Believer :D)! Of course, I'm also waiting for the female members of the team. That will be cool!
I also dig the idea of a Jewish super team!
not to be taken the wrong way, but when i saw "A Halo" in the thread title, i assumed you meant "A Halo[themed skin]" and burst in expecting Master Chief... :P
Very cool stuff, though, Carr. ^_^
Quote from: The Pwime on October 11, 2007, 07:04:50 PM
not to be taken the wrong way, but when i saw "A Halo" in the thread title, i assumed you meant "A Halo[themed skin]" and burst in expecting Master Chief... :P
Very cool stuff, though, Carr. ^_^
Same happened to me as well :lol:
Ditto on the coolness of your new skins.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/adamm.jpg)
A little update of Adam (not sure about the skin tone, thoughts?)
and the start of the Golemist
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/golemist.jpg)
This guy can summon golems, construct walls and spurs of rock and stone, levitate earth and boulders and by expending all his energy, can summon a gigantic master golem (will be using the frozen giant mesh) to fight for him. Should be tons of fun to play.
I'm hoping to be rid of that glossiness on the rock as well.
CnC as always, most welcome.
Nice skins as always Carr. Can I ask what mesh Adam is on? It seems familiar, but I can't place it. Skin tone maybe could be a tad lighter, but not too much. Clean and crisp as ever :thumbup:
I would make him about the same skin tone or darker as my ava and I think he would look a little better. Or possibly just leave it that color and add some highlights.
(http://i24.tinypic.com/2labzvc.jpg)
Something like that but maybe a little lighter brown.
Question will you have any Ethiopian Jews?
Quote from: AfghanAnt on October 12, 2007, 01:53:35 PM
I would make him about the same skin tone or darker as my ava and I think he would look a little better. Or possibly just leave it that color and add some highlights.
(http://i24.tinypic.com/2labzvc.jpg)
Something like that but maybe a little lighter brown.
Question will you have any Ethiopian Jews?
I think this is a fantastic question. Jews are still returning to Israel to this day from all over the world from where they were "scattered". Very intriguing!
Very cool Car! As far as his skin tone...according to Intelligent Design Theorists, the first man would have had a medium skin tone, a brown between the extremes that exist in the world today. So, something along the lines of what AA has pictured might be a little closer.
Quote from: BentonGrey on October 14, 2007, 03:00:56 PM
Very cool Car! As far as his skin tone...according to Intelligent Design Theorists, the first man would have had a medium skin tone, a brown between the extremes that exist in the world today. So, something along the lines of what AA has pictured might be a little closer.
Thats what I was thinking. Evolutionarily the first humans were darker than caucasians, and i'm trying to represent that.
AA that lil tweak you provided was very helpful, the new version:(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/adamV2.jpg)
As for the idea of Ethiopian Jews, I would like the Chosen to be a representative and a protectorate of all Jews across the globe, as well as acting as general superheroes (they wont not save someone because they are of a different faith) but their main goal is the unification and protection of Jews. Like Doc mentioned the Jewish world is very broad and covers a lot of the globe, we find Jews in many countries. I would like to have representatives from a range of Jewish nations so I would be happy to include Ethiopian Jews. the majority of the Chosen were intended to come from non English speaking countries rather than be American born Jews.
Shazam: The mesh is INK's Magneto V3 with Ren's cap body skoped on. I wanted something leaner than Ren's superman, but fitter than male basic.
A new nazi, (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/elect.jpg)
Elektrizität
I'll have another run at the textures on his gauntlets and collar, but thats pretty close to him done.
Awesome I really love the look so far. I really am glad you are focusing on the non-American Jewish people.
the skope for Elektrizität look great.
wow! Just, wow. the metal on that nazi is excellent. Really, really high quality, well done.
Dang that's pretty work on Electrici...Elektrici...oh the electric Nazi Guy! ;) Oh...and I likey the darker skin tone on Adam which contrast nicely with his white hair. Sweet!
Just when u thought that these Nazi skins can`t get any better...Keep them coming :thumbup:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/silence.jpg)
The Silence! A superhuman who's voice has the power to heal or destroy. He can command the matter of reality to a limited degree, ordering substances to be destroyed or reshape itself, essentially healing allies and damaging or outright destroying non-living targets. His sonic powers also allow him limited flight and protection from damage.
His name comes from his inability to speak in any audible (to us) way. his silence is the cost of his awesome power, the limits of which have yet to be tested.
I included the unwrapped face shot because i spent an hour trying to make him look Asian, and then its almost indiscernible on the mesh, so thats what he was supposed to look like.
Actually now that i have looked at it again, i do believe he looks suitably Asiatic. Thoughts?
Three members of the Church to go...and they are all females! :wub:
EDIT: and here is a WIP of one of them...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/virgin.jpg)
This makes use of IPS's awesome VX_female base, without which i wouldn't even attempt this skin...funny i only notice these things away from photoshop...does her hair look too big, or too high?
:eek2:
YES!!! Carr, Silence looks AMAZING!!! I very much like his costume (the green and white work together well). The cross design is very kewl as well. And I like the fact that he looks semi Asian. He could look even more Asian if you ask me. And this would fit well with the distribution of Christians throughout the world (with tremendous expansion occurring is Asia). For example, Christianity in Korea, I am told, is experiencing tremendous growth.
As to the female WIP...she looks great as well. Her hair doesn't look too big, and I like the style of it. Is it supposed to be "Virgin" perhaps??
Keep 'em coming, man. Your smokin' hot right now.
Peace!
It has been a while since i last looked in this thread. Glad to see you have added quite a number of new original characters since then. :) I'm really impressed with your creativity Carravaggio. They all look great! :thumbup: Now that your getting the hang of using NIfskope, I'm sure they will only get better and better. Keep up the good work! ^_^
Yea both look amazing...The designs are Carratastic.. I really like "The Silence" though. Great job with coming up with his powers.
I really like the Voice but I agree about the female character's hair. It looks a little big for some reason.
Nice!
love the the seriousness in his face, the eyes look dull in a good way :)
cant wait for the website
I like "The Silence" but I would still take some time and match the shadow under the hair to the mesh, without it the forehead looks odd with just the one dot of shadow. Also, add some sharpening to the eyes. I suspect most of the blurriness of them in the preview is standard-itis, but even judging by the section of the skin shown you could still use some enhancement right there.
Valid points guys, I've had another go at the girl in pink's hair, and i'll have another crack at the Silence's face. He was meant to be plainly Asian but if its slightly ambiguous then i haven't done the job right. Tomato, that's some good feedback, thanks i'll get on that.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/paladin.jpg)
Paladin, the most senior and powerful of the female members of The Church. originally designed to have purely defensive powers, I'm now leaning towards making her a female powerhouse to match some of her male teammates.
The deep blue colour was a happy accident, i was aiming for a different hue, but i ended up liking this one more than any other i managed to put together.
This lady is going to be somewhat older than the others, in her 60's, but her power keeps her fit and healthy. Think Brit's sister for comparison.
The real challenge will be the face, how do you make a lady mature, powerful and attractive all at once? I'm thinking i'll need some photo reference. Anyone think of any celebs that fit that bill? I'm not much on Hollywood actors, if they haven't played a superhero i probably dont know them from Adam.
looks great Carr, i think both Brit's sister and Ultimate aunt May would be good references for you
I really like the colors. When are we going to see some faces? ^_^
Celeb's that fit the bill for Paladin from your description? Here are two of my faves:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2190/1760007839_7582ee91dd_m.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2090/1760097561_1f87183e35_m.jpg)
Jaclyn Smith (61 years old!) and...
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2397/1760864416_39ddccee6c_m.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2051/1760848580_174dc3fe98_m.jpg)
Jane Seymour (56 years old!)
Both GREAT looking ladies for their age! I recommend them them as references. LOVE the colors and design of Paladin's costume/uniform. I dig the Celtic Cross...which I actually wanted for Believer's costume...but I digress. If you keep Paladin's hair grey, I recommend that it be snow white. I just think that would look cool. And I don't think her hips have to be quite that wide. Look at the picture of Jaclyn Smith's figure and you can see that an active woman in her 60's need not have wide hips. And, Smith has no metapowers! A good reference might be the way that Frank Miller drew Wonder Woman in the Dark Knight returns. WW was atleast 60+ years in that graphic novel...and yet she appears tight and trim. Ofcourse, I don't know if Miller is holding to the whole Amazons don't age thing. In any case, if you want to show age, I recommend that you put subtle lines on her face.
And...hmmmmm...I do like the idea of her powering up a little. She did sound a tad too defensive power heavy in orientation before.
Oh, I agree with Tomato-san, let's see some faces! Btw, I still don't think the pink girl's hair is that big. But ok....
Just my spare change today. Great work, Carr!
Why make her offensive?
Paladin's (In my knowledge) are known for wielding Light and using their shield's to protect people.
Why not give her a cool defensive ability like casting shield's on her teammates or taking the damage her teammates are supposed to be taking?
So she can have the full health you can give her and make her have a small healing spell. That way she still is a powerhouse (can take a hit *understatement*) and the name and defensive powers still work well.
With that, I believe most people would see her as intimidating and invulnerable because she is so healthy and strong.
I 2nd the Jane Seymour look for Paladin. I really enjoy what you've done with these holy warriors as of late
Quote from: Nymph on October 28, 2007, 07:15:40 AM
Why make her offensive?
Paladin's (In my knowledge) are known for wielding Light and using their shield's to protect people.
Why not give her a cool defensive ability like casting shield's on her teammates or taking the damage her teammates are supposed to be taking?
So she can have the full health you can give her and make her have a small healing spell. That way she still is a powerhouse (can take a hit *understatement*) and the name and defensive powers still work well.
With that, I believe most people would see her as intimidating and invulnerable because she is so healthy and strong.
Wow...very interesting comments. Yeah, defensive powers could be a nice contrast.
Nymph, that was originally the plan, but i've shifted the concept around a bit. The purely defensive powerset will instead go to the Virgin, the girl in pink (to show she is 'pure' etc. by being completely non offensive in her powers) and Paladin will be instead a hard hitting character along the lines of Bishop.
Volt: Thanks for the suggestions, but he hips ar ea result of the mesh, I can't change that :)
More to come in a week or so
OMG! I love that name but why pink????
Why not white and gold? (the two colors associated with angels and purity)
But ya I see it now. (Oh! You know what would be a cool idea? To skin a Purity Ring on The Virgin's left hand.)
What color will the last girl be?
The idea behind the Virgin is that she was originally an out of control pop diva living a life of excess, (like britney, lindsay, paris etc.) who, after a brush with death involving drug use, checked into a clinic to get straightened out. While in there she found God, and genuinely accepted Christ into her life. Soon afterwards she began to exhibit her powers, finding that her touch could heal, and she could protect others from harm.
The pink is a tie back into her Hollywood days and her pop background. Now she tries to act as a positive role model to young girls, trying to undo the negative images she contributed before.
I'm not sure what a purity ring is...google time...
the last woman is at this stage planned to be either white on white or white and pale yellow to suit her persona/powers.
A Purity Ring is a "Love must wait till marriage" ring.
You keep it on your ring finger till you get a wedding band.
Quote from: Carravaggio on October 28, 2007, 04:23:44 PM
Volt: Thanks for the suggestions, but he hips ar ea result of the mesh, I can't change that :)
More to come in a week or so
D'oh! My bad! Lol!!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/ghostopy.jpg)
Last one :)
The Ghost, ethereal Vision-like Church member, she is quiet spoken and oft overlooked by others.
He powers include reducing her density and visibility, as well as affecting her opponents perceptions.
Faces on the way, AA, just need some time to dedicate to it. i can justify an hour to make a costume but not the time it takes to research, construct and paint a face to a point where i'm happy with it.
My University course finished in five days (!), and then I will be done with tertiary education. After that i hope between job hunting I can make up for lost skinning time.
Congrads and I can't wait to see the faces. ;)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/frenchy.jpg)
A slight departure, a small team of patriotic French heroes, (no surrender jokes please Cap).
Five heroes planned, this guy is the leader, and the rest of the team is made up of his son (probably on Syn's awesoem Quasar mesh), a shield slinger (blame all the awesome shield meshes Ren graces us with), another skin on the alpha flight Guardian mesh and a French woman (vx_female most likely). the hope is to be able to skin this group without having to resort to skoping, as the original meshes are good enough without it.
Still a bit of work on this guy, who is as yet unnamed. mostly small details (and his face and hair, placeholders at the moment) to be fixed and a few more highlights and he will be done.
C&C most welcome.
Cool! But his face could get some blemish. :mellow:
Where do you get all these good idea from?? :blink:
I like what u did with his face, he looks really arrogant...
Quote from: YoungHeros on November 06, 2007, 05:15:18 AM
Where do you get all these good idea from?? :blink:
Would that be his brain? :P
Quote from: GGiant on November 06, 2007, 05:31:55 AM
Quote from: YoungHeros on November 06, 2007, 05:15:18 AM
Where do you get all these good idea from?? :blink:
Would that be his brain? :P
I have a brain too, but I don't get these ideas. :P
Nah its just that i have nothing better to do :D
Its just from years of reading comics and thinking about this sort of stuff. After a while it comes naturally. You get an idea in your heard and it shapes itself. When you go to draw it, to design a costume your hand makes aesthetic shapes, forms and elements that your brain likes the look of.
Most of my characters are unmasked. It's an unconscious thing, but i like the look of a full body costume and a bare face/head, which probably springs from my long fanboy love for Superman. i also think a lot of my costume designs are top heavy, that is the majority of the detail and colour focus is up top, usually the chest and arms (notice i use a lot of long sleeve/spider-man arms, if you know what i mean), simply because i like the way it looks. I don't mean to, but it happens.
When you build your own visual library, elements and designs that you like, you will be able to just pull them out and assemble them in little time.
As they ALL say, practice makes perfect :) You want to get better at anything you have to spend time at it. Look at my first skin on page one, the one i made back in 2000/2001. Its a shocker, but i kept at it. You do that and you can be as good as anyone else here.
Well... I have a lot of spear time, maybe I Should lern to skin ^_^
Quote from: YoungHeros on November 06, 2007, 06:14:43 AM
Well... I have a lot of spare time, maybe I should learn to skin ^_^
Go for it....oh and corrected LOL!
Quote from: YoungHeros on November 06, 2007, 06:14:43 AM
Well... I have a lot of spear time, maybe I Should lern to skin ^_^
Well, why not? Many artists here at FR manage to create amazing skins with free software and a mouse. All it takes is time, dedication (and some degree of talent)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/frenchson.jpg)
Quick and nasty WIP of the son of the French hero, I deliberately wanted the younger to have a simpler, less impressive costume, in as much as he has to earn his stripes. I hope to transfer this to Syn's Quasar mesh for that lovely cape he has.
Also anyone want to lend a hand with translations for these guy's names? My French was always limited to 8th grade beginner's class.
I like the new church members as well Carravaggio. Great costume designs,background story,and powers too.
As for the French guy, at first his face kinda reminded me of Jack Nicholson when he played the Joker in Batman. :P But after a while, i think the face kinda suits him. Now, he seems more like an arrogant frenchman to me. I think the drawing style you adopted for his face, may as well look like, what i would imagine how a french/european comic artist would do it. :cool:
woah im loving these originals Carr! keep it up:D
For a power-up does he pull out a glass of wine or a piece of cheese?
I LOVE the sons costume!
i also love the idea of a French superteam. Maybe call thew the female La Fleur de Lis or something.
One problem i have with the father figure though, is that hes lower half has considerable detailing on the white parts, while the upper half has no detailing whatsoever.
It just seems a bit off balance to me.
It seems like a bit of a departure from your usual cohesive style...
Bwhaha, Man Grape is the ultimate french superhero of them all!
'Cos he's evil!!!!
MAHAHA
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/lunarman/grapejump.jpg)
QuoteAlso anyone want to lend a hand with translations for these guy's names? My French was always limited to 8th grade beginner's class.
What were the names you had in mind in English?
I love that!!!
Man Grape will crush you!
My pride suffers a lot in this thread^^
QuoteAlso anyone want to lend a hand with translations for these guy's names? My French was always limited to 8th grade beginner's class.
I can, since I think i'm the only french on this forum!
I like the first guy.....looks like the snotty French Man you would expect.
When you said the "Son" i thought you ment like a skin on the "Robin" mech from ink or something. Something child like.....because they look the same age.
As for a name....isn't there something in France about "The Unnamed Soldier" (But is French)
That may not be for the Leader but maybe a mysterious french version of Batman. Maybe the Shield slinger?
(I know this is random.....but maybe in the future....do you want to do a "Shield Maiden" type of skin. Where she has a huge shield? Idk it just popped into my head with now.)
Quote from: GGiant on November 06, 2007, 05:07:57 AM
Cool! But his face could get some blemish. :mellow:
Not sure what you mean, dude. the face is just a temporary one until i have time to make a new one for this character, i said that in my original post ^_^
Quote from: detourne_me on November 06, 2007, 08:47:53 AM
I LOVE the sons costume!
i also love the idea of a French superteam. Maybe call thew the female La Fleur de Lis or something.
One problem i have with the father figure though, is that hes lower half has considerable detailing on the white parts, while the upper half has no detailing whatsoever.
It just seems a bit off balance to me.
It seems like a bit of a departure from your usual cohesive style...
Yeah the white detailing is one of the few things left to finish. if you look at his arms there are unfinished white lines on them as well. I couldn't leave the lines finishing at the waist seam, that would drive me nuts to look at.
Quote from: Volsung on November 06, 2007, 11:32:32 AM
My pride suffers a lot in this thread^^
QuoteAlso anyone want to lend a hand with translations for these guy's names? My French was always limited to 8th grade beginner's class.
I can, since I think i'm the only french on this forum!
Thanks for the offer Volsung. Sorry 'bout ur French pride, my intention in making this team was to move away from the negative 'arrogant' stereotype and present a positive and heroic French image.
Quote from: Lunarman on November 06, 2007, 10:06:50 AM
Bwhaha, Man Grape is the ultimate french superhero of them all!
'Cos he's evil!!!!
MAHAHA
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/lunarman/grapejump.jpg)
Curse your fruity flavoursome powers, Man-grape! You'll never get away with this...
or, the thing you are doing that is so evil...
cos...we'll stop you and stuff....Thanks for looking in folks, more in a day or two.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/bam.jpg)
Update of the son character, probably going with some variation of The Heir or Scion or Prince for his name.
keep on making originals, i just love these skins man!
So, you make a German and now a French team...And the Italians? I can translate the hero's names...
QuoteThanks for the offer Volsung. Sorry 'bout ur French pride, my intention in making this team was to move away from the negative 'arrogant' stereotype and present a positive and heroic French image.
I do not see anything offensive in your work^^ But do not avoid irony only to preserve my feelings.I was just surprised by the escalation of terms like snotty, arrogant ,etc etc.
of course we can't reduce people to stereotype.But I know we're considered as...er..."ball breakers?" Every country got his favorites nation and peeves^^ (Japan absurdly loves france^^)
I'm capable of self-derision .The incoming
Lord Volsung will blow the whole community's mind away! He will be definitely the jewel of my freedom force collection! Completely insane concept!!!! A icone of arrogance and megalomania.FeAr HIm! fear me!!!
Rendez vous Imperialist pigz! :P
Sorry Volsung. Didn't mean to imply every french was arrogant. Well, the face Carr drew could really pass as a French/European hero/villain. I don't know, maybe it's the high eyebrows that's giving him that somewhat arrogant demeanor. The son could also pass as Lex Luthor you know. :P Lunarman's Man Grape on the other hand, looks french as well, but does not appear that arrogant to me at all. Maybe a really serious wine connesiour perhaps. ^_^ Peace...
Well Volsung i hope you decide to download these French heroes and put them through the wringer against your avatar :)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/shieldoffrance.jpg)
Which one do you like better, FR?
My first notion was the skin with the dark top region as the deep blue matches the original french hero (above), but I like the white one as well (its a quick and nasty recolour of the dark blue, the original will be a much higher quality).
Still a fair bit to go, mainly highlights (to lighten the dark blue and make it look shiny) and linework, as well as a new face, I don't like that one, too passive.
C&C thus far welcome, more tomorrow I hope ^_^
THE WHITE LOOKS HOT! :thumbup: I say do that one instead of the dark blue. Maybe even deepen the blue already in the costume a little as well.
I liked the blue inititally, but the white is growing on me... maybe add a blue stripe or something too the mask, just to give it some depth?
I'd suggest that you mix them.
You keep the blue one, (the 'fleur de lys' is more visible) but you keep the neck and head zone in white.
QuoteWell Volsung i hope you decide to download these French heroes and put them through the wringer against your avatar :)
Sure^^I should be able to sketch some designs tonight^^Peace Outcast :cool:
Some really great stuff here Car. I've always loved your design and skoping work.
I really like both designs for the shield guy, but I feel the blue one comes off stronger in the end.
The blue looks better to me :)
why not try the white headed one but re-color the symbol to match his shield or match a diff part of his outfit.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/shield2y.jpg)
After taking all your very helpful suggestions under consideration, this is where I'm at. I'll release two versions, as I like both colour schemes, and you guys can pick the one you want. Also the darker design has got a new shield design that incorporates all three of the French flag colours on it.
How about a Captain America/US Agent kind of story for having 2 skins?
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on November 08, 2007, 06:48:59 PM
How about a Captain America/US Agent kind of story for having 2 skins?
Sounds like a winner, YL! I'll do that, thanks for the suggestion :)
The Shield's face, and his real life counterpart :lol:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/face_shield.jpg)
This guy is the US Agent version of the Shield who took over after the original Shield was thought dead. The original returned some years later, only to find his identity usurped. When he revealed the truth, the public voted to keep the new Shield, as they had approved of his tactics more than those of the original.
Disillusioned, the original left the public eye, and returned in a new guise working as a freelance mercenary in the Private Australian Territories.
Thanks again for the suggestion YL.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Vanq2y.jpg)
Vanquish, the blaster of the French team. The blue, white and red stripes are meant to form a V shape on his chest, acting as a subtle symbol of his name.
Only one more to start and the other few to finish and this team will be done and ready for download.
Still working on a name for the team itself, something about protecting or defending, France has a history of Democracy, I believe, so I'd like to have that represented by this team.
Coolness! :thumbup: Hey Car did you ever complete your Googlepages site?
Nah it's still in the works, I need to get all the portraits and readmes done before the site can go public. Its close tho, just need a day to sit down and finish it all.
I really like the face on the Shield. I don't know about Blaster though. It may be the white but his costume doesn't really pop.
My suggestion for Vanquish would be to modify your highlights on the red to a bas red rather then a white. The more faded red with white highlights works for The Shield, but I think a brighter red might give Vanquish that extra little pop his outfit needs
Great skins man!! :thumbup:
And you could make a French superhero based on the Eiffel Tower, he (or her ^_^) could be really huge :P
Im gonna agree with Tomato.....try not making the base of his outfit white/gray. Try a brighter, lighter shade of red or blue.
As for the female hero.....I heard earlier on the thread to maybe call her Fleur de Lis....I'm gonna say nay to that because so far all the heroes have that symbol in their costumes so it wouldn't stand out enough. (imo)
Yeah, a person who could transform into a metal gridded giant? That'd be friggin' sweet! Also, you totally gotta make a character some kind of poet beatnik artsy type.
But guess what! I'm lovin' the Frenchies. Being somewhat French myself, I've always been fond of a bit of francophonetic action. These guys look to be a rad team. I really really enjoy how you are making these different teams for different parts of the world. I could imagine a world wide crisis sort of mod involving all of them, if everybody weren't so dern busy doin' other things alla the time.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/guesswho.jpg)
Anyone guess who I based this dashing chap off? I wanted to have the French team done by tonight, but that wont happen now :( Still i hope to have three or four of them done before slumber beckons.
No chance of that happening now. More to come in a day or tow, here is an update of Vanquish. I think the extra lines on his chest add a lot more depth.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Van.jpg)
I like the new vanquish but he still doesnt pop too me.
maybe he needs a belt
Nah...no belt. Great face...and I love the design. Maybe some sort of badge like the fleur de lis on the shoulders.
I'm really liking the Vanquish design. Kinda reminds me of Vindicator of Alpha Flight or one of the international Ultimates heroes.
The flag to be used as the banner for the French heroes page of my site (projected completion date, 2010 :( )
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/france_final.jpg)
Just coloured a rectangle equal parts of blue, white and red, laid a parchment texture over it, reduced its opacity, threw a blood splatter on it, changes that to brown, reduced its opacity then gaussian blurred the colours a bit.
Looks a treat, I think.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Van2.jpg)
And another update for Vanquish. THB I think this is him done. I'm hearing a lot of people say he doesn't 'pop'. AT the same time Podmark mentioned that he is reminiscent of the Ultimates costumes which is what I am aiming for with these French heroes, that modern look. In my mind the Ultimates never 'popped' they were subdued versions of their larger than life 616 counterparts. One only needs to look at Ironman and Thor; their ultimate versions are very bland compared to them. Modern, realistic, sure and cool, no doubt, but nothing says Thor like a winged viking helmet and red cape :)
So in summation these guys might not pop, that's cool they aren't really mean to :) They are meant to look sleek, modern, embodiments of the flag of the nation they represent and protect.
Thanks for ALL the comments guys it gave me plenty to work with. I made the white whiter, the red 'redder' adn the blue darker. I added the symbol as well, despite not wanting to initially, but the extra detail it provides (and acting as a focal point) really finished it off for me.
BTW, the above face was based off Orlando Bloom, I thought the facial hair was a dead give away :P
oooooo! I <3 it!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/the_inheritor.jpg)
The Inheritor
The son of the original French hero, the Inheritor is being groomed by his father to become the next national hero of France. While he enjoys the benefits of celebrity, the inheritor is always aware of the great responsibility placed on him, and as such is a lil too serious sometimes.
Lovin the face..really lovin the clean and bold lines for the costume....the hair however I'm not feelin'. Maybe the Captain Euro hair?
Jean val'Jean?
I love this guys face, it's perfect
So much personality in that face. Really great work!
ya im not feeling the hair either....i would slick it back and make it darker but that is just for the Suave feeling.
Carr,
These recent skins are really sweet. But I have to say that was is really exquisite is the face work on them. Very, very nice!
...wow! stunning. i actually really love the hair being used. its not an overused mesh piece, and i think it adds character depth, his face is visible because of it. and yeah, whaty a feace. in your first preview i was thinking johnny depp. but, well i could never imagine french charactewrs to be so cool.
WOW!! Seriously.....just WOW!! Your work on faces is incredible, and the vibrant colors you use really make all your skins stand out. Great stuff! :thumbup:
I'd love to see Vanquish with a subtle Statesman-esque mask, but if you're done you're done.
The Inheritor... The fingerless gloves with the hair make him look like a bit of a fancy pants hobo to me. Like a bum artist type. It actually works perfectly for a young French hero. The red boots throw me off a bit, though. It's not even that they are red, it's more of how the blue and white go into them. It just looks odd for some reason. Face is fantastic, of course.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Repent.jpg)
New and (seriously) final member of the Church. I had some good reason for doing this, but I'm a bit hazy on it now. This character is going to be based heavily off me, and while he wont act as a replacement for my Avatar, I guess this is more who I would be with powers (cos I sure wouldn't become a dictator like my AV)
I like this design best out of ALL the Church skins i have done, personally. I used Ren's Invincible mesh body cos...well I'm 5' 10" and lean. Didn't think male heavy would cut it :P
CnC welcome, I'll be back in force once the Great Job Hunt of '07 subsides.
you make the best costumes ever, loving that design!
im hoping he gets a slightly arrogant face, perfect for the last hero ;)
Carr my bud, your work on costume desing is so refreshing, really creative, and the quality of the skin itself is awsome, the way your colors turned out to look so rich, it is quite awsome
Congrats dude
Quote from: juancho on November 26, 2007, 03:30:07 AM
Carr my bud, your work on costume desing is so refreshing, really creative, and the quality of the skin itself is awsome, the way your colors turned out to look so rich, it is quite awsome
Congrats dude
Quoted for TRUTH!
Quote from: juancho on November 26, 2007, 03:30:07 AM
Carr my bud, your work on costume desing is so refreshing, really creative, and the quality of the skin itself is awsome, the way your colors turned out to look so rich, it is quite awsome
Congrats dude
Definitely...excellent costumes! Now let's see those faces...well after the job hunt and all that is. ;)
I hope we'll be getting a group shot, once you're done that is. In the meantime, do well on your job hunt. I know how much fun that can be.
Quote from: Carravaggio on November 26, 2007, 01:30:22 AM
New and (seriously) final member of the Church. I had some good reason for doing this, but I'm a bit hazy on it now. This character is going to be based heavily off me...
Quote from: catastrophe on November 26, 2007, 02:53:46 AM
im hoping he gets a slightly arrogant face...
Dude, what are you trying to say? :o
Kidding
Thanks for the encouragement guys. the job hunt is for a teaching position, which makes it even harder than normal :unsure:. If I'm very lucky the government will select me for a permanent position and I won't even have to go looking for one. Surely somewhere in a country of 20 million people they need a graduate male primary teacher...(I think that's elementary school to all the Americans on the forum)
Anyway I just thought some of you might like to see how I work. I try to share any techniques or method when I can (or when asked) as I figure the more everyone knows, the greater number of quality skins we can all have to play with.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Untitled-1copy-2.jpg)
Thats a face I'm working on for the Virgin. I went with Britney (sp?) cos I figure she is still the most recognisable of all those diva brats. I place the photo on the skin and really just paint it as close as I can to who I'm working from. As I never get an exact likeness it leaves me with a face that is reminiscent of someone but not so close it's distracting (as evidenced by the face based on Orlando Bloom a few pages back).
Just thought I'd share ^_^
QuoteDude, what are you trying to say? ohmy
Kidding
:lol:
younger pictures of britney probably fit good, she was pretty in those pictures and how about madonna as paladin? :P just a thought
Fascinating insight, Carr!
Britney is a good choice for Virgin. I'm still hoping for Jane Seymour for Paladin though. Just my spare change worth. ^_^
Have the nazi skins been released anywhere Car?
Beautiful work lately, as always Car. I'm interested to see how this newest one turns out. In the meantime, any progress on Barry and Ray?
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/cap_italia.jpg)
For John Constantine, he asked me about the possibility of an Italian hero, and i felt this design would suit. I'll have to change the mesh when I get back from out of town, its warping detail too much. Also the hair detail is a placeholder by AA from the original Cap Euro mesh.
Quote from: apfarmakis on November 30, 2007, 12:07:24 AM
Have the nazi skins been released anywhere Car?
Nope, not yet.
Quote from: BentonGrey on November 30, 2007, 12:32:40 PM
any progress on Barry and Ray?
Unfortuantely, no. I'll get on it once i find some motivation to skin some faces.
That's cool, I'm going to try and use the Christmas break to squeeze in as much content as possible, and maybe release after the New Year, but there isn't really a hurry. :D
What I'm really excited about is getting my hands on those Nazi skins. I may have to skip ahead through half the Aquaman storyline I've got written to go straight to that idea I mentioned to you. ^_^
Great costume! Even better face work. Excellent work here on this Italian hero!
I really love this skin and excellent choice of meshes. I've always been fond of that nose.
i'm not much of a fan of nationalistic heroes, but i hope you keep this up, the faces on these characters are beyond belief, but the simplicity of the costumes just rocks because of the small details you've put into them, like stuitching and watnot.
i'd love to see a norwegian hero added as well, as the asymmetrical lines may prove a challenge.
Great job Carr... Love the colllection...can't wait to get them all :thumbup:
Quote from: Carravaggio on December 06, 2007, 06:13:56 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/cap_italia.jpg)
For John Constantine, he asked me about the possibility of an Italian hero, and i felt this design would suit. I'll have to change the mesh when I get back from out of town, its warping detail too much. Also the hair detail is a placeholder by AA from the original Cap Euro mesh.
Quote from: apfarmakis on November 30, 2007, 12:07:24 AM
Have the nazi skins been released anywhere Car?
Nope, not yet.
Quote from: BentonGrey on November 30, 2007, 12:32:40 PM
any progress on Barry and Ray?
Unfortuantely, no. I'll get on it once i find some motivation to skin some faces.
FAntastic job, CAR! Linear, simple, AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The face is tipycal "Latin". Good Job!!!
Glad you like it, JC. I think I'll keep the mesh, despite the warping, the sculpting of the chest and abdomen is really just unique (look at Cap Euro from the side). Its worth the warping of detail.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Vee.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/virginfacecopy.jpg)
Virgin about done, I need to skin the hair then she is good to go. I'm looking forward to checking her out in the RR as she has purely defensive powers. With a range of shields, buffs and heals, she should be a valuable addition to the team.
I need to finish a project or two instead of bouncing from one to another all the time. With the addition of the Italian hero, I'm now thinking of a European Union team with reps from the major European powers. Germany in particular should provide some good fodder for a nationalistic costume. And upon Detourne_me's suggestion I took a look at the flag of Norway, and I've got a few ideas for it...
Projects to finish...in no particular order:
European Union of Heroes
American Trinity
French national team
The Church
The Circus
Nazi Superhumans
Various requests
The black JLA
Villain teams and new thugs
Well looks like I should be busy for the next few months at least :wacko:
Quote from: Carravaggio on December 12, 2007, 04:18:49 AM
Glad you like it, JC. I think I'll keep the mesh, despite the warping, the sculpting of the chest and abdomen is really just unique (look at Cap Euro from the side). Its worth the warping of detail.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Vee.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/virginfacecopy.jpg)
Virgin about done, I need to skin the hair then she is good to go. I'm looking forward to checking her out in the RR as she has purely defensive powers. With a range of shields, buffs and heals, she should be a valuable addition to the team.
I need to finish a project or two instead of bouncing from one to another all the time. With the addition of the Italian hero, I'm now thinking of a European Union team with reps from the major European powers. Germany in particular should provide some good fodder for a nationalistic costume. And upon Detourne_me's suggestion I took a look at the flag of Norway, and I've got a few ideas for it...
Projects to finish...in no particular order:
European Union of Heroes
American Trinity
French national team
The Church
The Circus
Nazi Superhumans
Various requests
The black JLA
Villain teams and new thugs
Well looks like I should be busy for the next few months at least :wacko:
Holy cow! Your plate IS full! Great stuff all!
And...a Norwegian hero?! Sweet! I've always thoguht the flag of Norway was the most attractive of all the flags of Scandinavia. Oh and I have an idea for this hero's powers and name if you are interested. Check your PM.
Well, I'll keep checking in as your work progresses.
Quote from: Carravaggio on December 12, 2007, 04:18:49 AM
Glad you like it, JC. I think I'll keep the mesh, despite the warping, the sculpting of the chest and abdomen is really just unique (look at Cap Euro from the side). Its worth the warping of detail.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Vee.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/virginfacecopy.jpg)
Virgin about done, I need to skin the hair then she is good to go. I'm looking forward to checking her out in the RR as she has purely defensive powers. With a range of shields, buffs and heals, she should be a valuable addition to the team.
I need to finish a project or two instead of bouncing from one to another all the time. With the addition of the Italian hero, I'm now thinking of a European Union team with reps from the major European powers. Germany in particular should provide some good fodder for a nationalistic costume. And upon Detourne_me's suggestion I took a look at the flag of Norway, and I've got a few ideas for it...
Projects to finish...in no particular order:
European Union of Heroes
American Trinity
French national team
The Church
The Circus
Nazi Superhumans
Various requests
The black JLA
Villain teams and new thugs
Well looks like I should be busy for the next few months at least :wacko:
Love the face work! You really do have a way with colours, every member of the Church is unique.
Alright! I can't wait to see what is coming Car!
Beautiful rendering of the face, Car.
Ah, CAr, if you need a translation for the name of Italian heroes, ask to me in every time!
I'll be sure to do that John, thanks.
Here is an update to The Perfection, the 'Perfect Woman' of the black JLA analog. She become too powerful for her creators to control and broke away from them, becoming a hero of sorts. The full story is below, copied from a few pages back for those hwo missed it the first time around
NEW
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(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Image002.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Image001.jpg)
And here is a comparison pic to show the progress. I'm pretty happy with my advancement in skinning lately, despite the little time I've had to dedicate to it.
OLD
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/perfecti2on.jpg)
The Perfection
Hailing from a technologically advanced society hidden in deepest Africa, the Perfection has superior strength, speed and reflexes, as well as durability to high levels of trauma. She also wears a pair of gold braces that are the advanced weapon systems of her culture.
Despite all the advances this hidden culture had made, it possesses one great flaw: it is a heavy Patriarchal society, where women have next to no rights. The men in this society saw women as highly inferior, incapable of any achievement. The ruling men kept all knowledge to themselves, depriving the women of equality. Without access to education and resources women could learn nothing, and so they produced nothing, essentially 'proving' the beliefs of the ruling class.
Frustrated by the lack of ambition and ability in their women, the men of this society went about creating a 'perfect' woman, using their advanced science to grow a real living being. If the plan was successful, if she could prove an equal to the men, more would be produced, and a super race would be born.
Unfortunately for the ruling class, this gal learned fast, real fast. Faster than the men could teach. She was strong and tough, and mastered their martial styles, science and philosophy in a short period of time. Whatever task they set her, she accomplished.
She did this so well the men got nervous. They wondered if she wasn't a little too perfect.
When she discovered why she was created, she went berserk. She laid waste to the culture, defeating their armies single handedly.
Yet when she attempted to empower the women, to give them a say in their lives, the right to make decisions and be citizens, they refused to do so. Years of being downtrodden had convinced them that they were inferior. Disgusted at their beliefs, she left the flawed society to its own problems and set out to explore the world.
Three of the eight JLA members are complete. Aside from lack of time, settling on a single project is my biggest obstacle.
CnC most welcome.
Now that`s perfection :D
That's a huge upgrade, in term's of the face work. The only thing I could suggest is having the cheek highlights transition a little smoother into her skin. Other then that, it's....dare I say? Perfection! :D
I really like the eyes on that first pic. But I don't understand why it is not coming through on the rest.
:lol: Hey man, that look just like a girl i use to date. anyway she look really great.
jeebus, how big a TGA are you working on to have the face that size @_@
:P
WHAT! :blink: Pretty sick skin brother. ;) What "hair" is that?
Well, you picked a very hard mesh. You've got a bit of warping on her breasts which is annoying and for some reason I'm not "feeling" her face. She looks very angry and a bit possessed, which might be what you're going for with all the rings and bracers. If not then I'd just make her look a little happier, maybe more of a smile.
Also, you've got loads of detail in the eyes, as we can see in the close up, but on the model it's being blurred out by the looks of things. Other than that the rest of her costume is perfection :P
I love idea and the design and it is a major improvement but about adding some highlights to her lips and toning down the spotted highlights on her cheeks. I think it would give her skin a smoother look and feel.
Also I agree about the base mesh with so many different body that wont warp with the keyframes you chose I would reconsider the mesh.
Nice work as always Carr! :wub: :thumbup:
Gravija, a gravity controlling generic villain. I've sketched up a dozen of these sort of guys, perfect for trouncing in the rumble room. While they are a low priority project I liked this design enough to skin it.
Not sure about the hair style tho.
Anyone pick where his name is from?
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01-6.jpg)
Close up of the face
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01d.jpg)
modified for short hair
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Untitled-1-2.jpg)
I think his name is from Final Fantasy VIII
Hmm, I really like that latest one, Carr. The purple eyes and Lex Luthor-like smirk are really quite awesome.
this skin is awesome, the costume looks great.
BUT!
im not really digging the hairstyle, i think he would look cooler as just bald
Bald or a very short haircut. ;) Excellent face Carr! :thumbup:
And these are the reasons I am glad you are working on my Avatar. Very nice work Carr!
way to go Carravaggio nice looking avatar.
The short hair is a lot better. :thumbup:
Can never have enough spandex clad cannon fodder.
I agree, HQ.
And on that note:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/rad-1.jpg)
An update of a much older skin that I am have been unhappy with for a while.
More cannon fodder and Nazis on the way :)
Hey... I remember him! :o
Yeah i made a few stylistic and colour changes to him but kept the overall look quite similar. It wasn't a bad design, just executed less than spectacularly.
another bad guy in progress:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/goldshd-1.jpg)
Another WIP:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/ryfted-1.jpg)
These last four bad guys all exist on the same mesh, making for a range of random supervillain encounters.
Quote from: Carravaggio on February 24, 2008, 05:18:10 AM
I agree, HQ.
And on that note:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/rad-1.jpg)
An update of a much older skin that I am have been unhappy with for a while.
More cannon fodder and Nazis on the way :)
Yeah I remember that guy, and I must say this version looks much better.
As I recall the old version had basically the same colors, but this time u put them to better use, good job!
Ohhh....NPI revamps...nice work, Car. Makes me want to go back and revamp my old villians. If only NPI was coming back.....
One thing though on Radiance that bothers me is the costume "wrinkles"/ribbing on the neck...they stand out just a tad too much. Might I suggest ye tone down the highlighting a bit maybe. Other than that I cannae wait to see what comes about.
-DJ
Quote from: Deaths Jester on February 26, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
One thing though on Radiance that bothers me is the costume "wrinkles"/ribbing on the neck...they stand out just a tad too much. Might I suggest ye tone down the highlighting a bit maybe. Other than that I cannae wait to see what comes about.
Good point I'll have a look at that.
Quote from: Deaths Jester on February 26, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
If only NPI was coming back.....
:P Yeah...if only... :thumbup:
Eh? Do they? I'll have to get that one from you. (Not just for the sweet skins.)
Maybe once school is done I'll go on a mindless minion rampage. I love skinning those types of guys.
I love these latest skins, Carr!
I like the bald-headed version of Gravija, and Radiance looks incredible. I absolutely love the colors and designs.
I look forward to seeing more of the "G" guy and the fin-headed guy. LOL. Their names escape me..
These are great--I loves me originals!
And yeah some minions to go with them would be great, too.
Quote from: HumanTon on February 26, 2008, 04:06:35 PM
And yeah some minions to go with them would be great, too.
These guys ARE the minions! :)
Baron Zemo never went anywhere without the MOE, and these guys fill that same role, powerful, but not too ambitious, they are the perfect muscle for hire bad guys that the mastermind throws at your hero in waves.
I have a heap more in mind, so keep an eye out for them.
EDIT: Yes, Youngheros, Gravija takes his name from the Final Fantasy spell of the same name.
Feryl, the claw poppin', cussin', spittin', brawlin', regenerating man-beast!
I'm going for a kinda goofy ex pro wrestler look here, nobody would get about in spandex yellow shorty shorts and bare legs...except this guy :D
he'll have some form of ears or additional mask piece to draw focus to his head and make his outfit seem more animal-like.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/feryl.jpg)
these bad guys are pretty easy to put together, i hope to knock a dozen or so over eventually :)
EDIT:
Quick update
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/wyldoard01.jpg)
:lol: That's just plain awesome! I love that skin so far.
Quote from: Carravaggio on February 27, 2008, 03:12:30 AM
Feryl, the claw poppin', cussin', spittin', brawlin', regenerating man-beast!
I'm going for a kinda goofy ex pro wrestler look here, nobody would get about in spandex yellow shorty shorts and bare legs...except this guy :D
he'll have some form of ears or additional mask piece to draw focus to his head and make his outfit seem more animal-like.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/feryl.jpg)
these bad guys are pretty easy to put together, i hope to knock a dozen or so over eventually :)
EDIT:
Quick update
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/wyldoard01.jpg)
Nice though it seems ye have a bit of overlapping on the mask...probably something ye can fix in 'Skope.
Holy smokes! I'm likin' this latest string of baddies, Carr. I especially like your claw-poppin man beast! Nice work as always!
Your original>Wolverine....m i rite? :P
That tiny bit of overlap is actually not a very big problem. If you just skin them both the same colour, they should match up alright. Not 100%, but good enough that nobody'd be able to tell.
That's pretty hilarious looking, Car.
I'm loving these villain designs Car, very clean lined and straight forward. By the way, clean out your inbox man! Ha, I was going to send this to you in a PM, but I can't, sooooo:
I've finally gotten around to adding Prometheus into the DCUG, and I was just looking over the old post about his herofile. I see that you've got a few set up, and if you still have them at hand, I was wondering if you might be willing to email them to me? I like the idea of your set-up, and it'd save me some time. Thanks man!
P.S. Did you ever get around to finishing Barry?
By the way... are you going to do the same thing with The Golden Age Guys? :o
You body of work is very impressive. This latest guy though, wow! That really works. :)
BG: I don't have those old Prometheus files anymore, sorry. Was i working on Barry? I thought it was Ray and Carter. I suppose I can manage a Barry as well. I'll get them out to you soon...
YH: Maybe, if I get time, but it'll be a low priority.
NomadX: I sure hope not! If that guy can take Wolverine he'd be invincible, considering how overpowered wolverine is these days. :D
As for the clipping on Feryl's mask, i figure I'll just alpha out his forehead so it stops conflicting with the mask.
Thanks for the comments, all. I do take all comments and criticisms under serious advisement, even if I don't respond to them. Each one helps me make better skins.
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Dr Cerebro, malicious mind controller!
Unfortunately due to his choice of keyframes, the not-so-good doctor is unable to reside on the shared mesh that houses the previous quartet of crims. Need to reskin the helmet, its currently using AA's Cerebro skin.
wow dude very very nice i like the stuff that ive seen
Ohh, I like that design. I really like the little Pyro-esq things on his hands. I think you should make those little boxes on his belt match those on his hands though...or maybe not. I suppose it's a question of matching the hands or matching the helmet...
Ack! You're right, it was Ray and Carter! Sorry man, I'm retarded. If you WANT to do Barry though, I certainly won't complain! :thumbup:
Yes! I LOVE this design. The helmet is so sweet... The purple is awesome. This is a guy I want to fight.
I agree that his side squares should match his hand squares, though. In all honesty, I probably wouldn't bother even matching his belt to his helmet. I'd try it all as the darker purple first. If you are going to make it just a tiny splash of silver, why not make it super prominent that there is only a bit of silver. His eyebrows and light skin tone make it alright.
I also don't quite dig the logo. It's got the problem most of the CoX logos have (actually I think it is really close to one) and that is that it looks like generic clip art rather than a super villain logo. And really, most super villains don't even have logos. It's more of a hero thing. Especially when it comes to chump villains whose sole purpose is constant defeat.
Now... it CAN work, but I think it has to be something a bit more distinct than just gears.
So geez, I make it sound like I don't even like the skin anymore, but I do. Probably my fave of the villains, actually. And I just love seeing them. These guys are fillin' me with joy.
Its an amazing skin Carravagio, probably the best of the villains...im really amazed how well you skin.
BUT(yes theres a but), im not really feeling his eyebrows. I think they look a little big, but that doesnt even affect the skins awesomekillerpowercoolness. Awesome work Carr, cant wait for the finished team!
He's lookin hot...lookin' damn hot! :thumbup: Great skin Carr.
To steal Cardmaster's quote: "SAH-WEET!"
Realy nice work on the face, mate, though I do hope that once ye decide on a full time helmet for him ye're going to do some shadow work on it too...right? *Nudge Nudge*
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Another bad guy WIP, early days yet, but I think its a cool use of the Hellboy mesh...
Car I just love your skoping work so much.
i like that one!
You could even keep the horns... make em goggles!
Heh. Powerfist is fun. I like him.
Reminds of a Masters of the Universe character,Fisto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisto). :P
Oh he looks sweet, cant wait until the finishing product!
Thats a pretty cool idea, Unko. Hmm... :P
Oh yeah! Carr's cranking up the skinning machine. Rock on, man!! :thumbup:
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"Wow, Carravaggio,' you say, eyes agog. "Normally I'm a fan or your ideas. They are fresh takes on the superhero genre, coupled with a keen eye for design and colour, and yet you are humble, dashing, handsome...uh, wait I'm getting off topic...But this character, his name...it's a bit-um...lame?"
"Why sure it is, friend. It was my favourite original villain when I was but a tot, essentially an evil Superman who looked far more alien than ol' Kal-El. In memory of that long forgotten universe I made while struggling with basic anatomy (and long division :p ), I decided to keep the moniker...The Atomic Alien lives on!"
This guy was the evil SOB that plagued my own hero many a year ago. While working on some unrelated skopes I came upon the idea of plonking the alien body onto a Superman mesh. I hope to reskin the face, as much as I like the Irrational offering, my own is aiming to look a whole lot more alien.
Hope you all enjoy ^_^
EDIT
Modified nif and skin, made some changes in the colour scheme to make him look more alien and more like a bad guy.
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Forgot I had finished this one...
As if COH isn't enough of a distraction, now I feel compelled to make my favourite originals from there as well.
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A British government agent who was part of a superhuman control and observation agency, the man who would become The Establishment was mortally wounded in a battle between two super powered factions. Preservation in experimental cryogenics left him with the ability to drastically lower the temperature of the environment around him. Still believing heavily that superhumans need to be controlled and made accountable for their actions, he continues his observation of if the superhuman community from within, as the frost-wielding ice man; The Establishment!
Quote from: Carravaggio on March 17, 2008, 07:02:00 AM
[SNIP]
"Wow, Carravaggio,' you say, eyes agog. "Normally I'm a fan or your ideas. They are fresh takes on the superhero genre, coupled with a keen eye for design and colour, and yet you are humble, dashing, handsome...uh, wait I'm getting off topic...But this character, his name...it's a bit-um...lame?"
"Why sure it is, friend. It was my favourite original villain when I was but a tot, essentially an evil Superman who looked far more alien than ol' Kal-El. In memory of that long forgotten universe I made while struggling with basic anatomy (and long division :p ), I decided to keep the moniker...The Atomic Alien lives on!"
This guy was the evil SOB that plagued my own hero many a year ago. While working on some unrelated skopes I came upon the idea of plonking the alien body onto a Superman mesh. I hope to reskin the face, as much as I like the Irrational offering, my own is aiming to look a whole lot more alien.
Hope you all enjoy ^_^
And here I was thinking you took spud and mixed him with dominion. :blink:
Looks nice, sir. The second skin looks a bit odd to me face wise. Specifically the nose area and the eyebrows, but I don't know if that was intended or not.
Hey Carr...beautiful skins! :thumbup: One thing though for "Atomic Alien"....maybe give him some sort of collar or neck piece...I think it'd make him "flow" better.
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on March 17, 2008, 12:31:36 PM
Hey Carr...beautiful skins! :thumbup: One thing though for "Atomic Alien"....maybe give him some sort of collar or neck piece...I think it'd make him "flow" better.
I was thinking something similar for Atomic Alien......the neck seems to stick out as kind of scrawny in relation to the body. Could it be beefed up, even to normal proportions (doesn't have to be muscular)?
The mauling man-beast; Feryl!
Ditched the belt, I think it makes him look sleeker and solidifies the 'one-piece' costume that hearkens to old-school wrestlers.
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Thanks for the other previous suggestions, gang, I've taken them into consideration :)
Also, thanks to the wonders of Nifskope, Thunderfist now appears as he was always meant to, wreathed in a field of bio-electricity
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You have been a busy boy haven't you?
As always Carr nice work, very nice. Looks like you're a master of the skope as well as the skin ;)
Whoa!
I really like the work you've been doing on these skopes.
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Updated
i like the updated powerfist.are all these gems in a yahoo group or are they un-released?
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The Shield!
Finally found a design I really liked. Thanks to Renegade for his awesome Canadian Shield mesh :wub:
HD: None of these more recent characters have been released yet, I'm still working on my own site to house them.
CnC welcome as always.
i hope my computer will be able to hold them all when released.if not,well i guess its time for a new one.
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teaser pic for the French Team- Left to right;
Premier (Maiden)
Daughter of Captain France, and a photomancer; she can shift and create light. Dislikes being a hero, plans to retire when her father does.
Le Bouclier (The Shield)
Shield-wielding peak human hero, the second to use the name.
Capitaine France
The premier hero of France. Helped repel the Nazis in WW2, a living legend.
L'Héritier (The Inheritor)
Son of Captain France, reluctant heir to his title. Has all his father's powers to a lesser degree.
Vainquez (Vanquish)
Energy-wielding hero, formerly of the Private Australian territories, he has returned to his native country at the request of the government.
Awesome, absolutely awesome!
I can't wait to see the last member of the team, the rest are looking sharp :)
Gotta love those colors!
I like them a lot but why did you use two different shades of blue.
The heroes with the darker blue are the leaders/veterans. While they retain some costume elements with the lighter blue, the dark blue denotes seniority. Hope to have the last team member done by the weekend.
love all 'em.... if you decide creating a spanish team, make me know it!
^_^
Carr-Carr-Carr.....LOVE the current stuff & I'm glad to see our Russian project still exists in some part; been away a while but back now; not sure about skinning as my stuff never seemed to be what the masses wanted :P . Looks like the NPI Forum is gone, but I guess it was inevitable. Keep that mouse moving!
Quote from: miguelyanke on April 23, 2008, 07:52:17 AM
... if you decide creating a spanish team, make me know it!
A Spanish superteam, eh? Thats sounds interesting...
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Some face work, going for a bit of swashbuckler/Clark Gable here.
Hey Aly, thanks for checking in :) Yeah the Russians are still around, and that got me working on other nations super teams. Hope to see you skinning in some capacity sometime soon, none of us 'originals' were exactly what the masses wanted, but there is plenty of board space for all of us these days.
O.O wow, powerful face!!!
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And here is a WIP of the man himself...the first look at a team of Spanish superheroes: El Campeador!
NICE! :thumbup: Very...very cool! I can't wait to see the rest of the team. :thumbup: I guess I only have one critique and that be the Deathstroke torso "bandolier" part...It's so big that I think it takes away from the design in the chest....I'd change it to something smaller maybe...or nix it.
just a suggestion... "El Campeador" le is too french... and if you don't mind i can help with the names since spanish is my first tongue :)
Now he looks really really cool :) great work
Doesn't it translate, in Spanish, to 'The victor"? One who is victorious?
mmmmhmmm yes could be "el victorioso" but "El campeador" made a reference to El Cid... Ruy Diaz de Vivar... so wouldd be more appropiate in my opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cid
baroness, por aki al cid se le conoce más como "el campeador" que como cid... así que cuando carvaggio me preguntó le dije q si, que dejase el campeador.
thats what i am saying... El Campeador seems a more fitting name
A eso me refiero, el campeador es un mejor nombre ya que se relaciona con una figura historica
I chose El Campeador based upon the El Cid connection, the idea of a master of military and combat tactics. Then a friend told me it also translates to the victor, which I thought appropriate for the Batman/Captain America slot on the team. That wiki article also mentions Campeador is a latin word for a master stretegist, which is why I thought it was so fitting. This guy is meant to be a master fighter and strategist, a paragon of human prowess, but not the reincarnation of El Cid, or his descendant. Do the majority of Spaniardsm, so far as you can speak for them as a people, think of El Cid when they hear El Campeador?
Thanks for your input.
Next up, El Castillo...The Castle!
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A lot of the Spanish team I originally designed based upon the coat of arms and the imagery found on it. More to come. As usual, the gals on the team will probably be made last. They are always harder to skin :huh:
Quote from: The_Baroness on June 18, 2008, 05:19:44 AM
just a suggestion... "El Campeador" le is too french... and if you don't mind i can help with the names since spanish is my first tongue :)
Now he looks really really cool :) great work
:D Ah the language barrier, bursting at the seams with potential for amusing miscommunications. This one is my fault, i originally typed Le Campeador instead of El Campeador. His name was always meant to be El Campeador. I'm glad I have two genuine Spaniards to watch my language faux pas :P
Excellent :) nice skin.. and it is funny but i am more comfortable doing female skins... though i still need to learn a lot more :) and this only reinforce my idea of making a chilean superteam :P oh well... maybe i post some ideas for them
your work is not only good Car... it gets better and better :thumbup:
el campeador is killer , excellent job on the face. el castillo is well done as well. great use uf colors.
i'm with my chilean friends Your face's works annoying me!!!!
Is his face taken from Antonio Banderas?
I like El Campeador but I think his bandana mask needs something on the frontal section of the head, otherwise it looks extremely flat and unrealistic. As for El Castillo, really great job...looks like ye've been practicing some more on ye faces too.
Oh and seeing as I'm here and posting this message anyways, what do ye think about me redoing Stahlhelm on Ren's new WWII_Cap'n America mesh? I mean it fits the time period better but I'm unsure if Stahlhelm really needs a body/mesh change.
I love both these skins. Their costume designs are excellent. Love the face work on both of the as well...especially on El Campeador. I also love the smug and slightly bored look on El Castillo's face. Great work on these man!
Quote from: Dr.Volt on June 18, 2008, 05:02:18 PM
I love both these skins. Their costume designs are excellent. Love the face work on both of the as well...especially on El Campeador. I also love the smug and slightly bored look on El Castillo's face. Great work on these man!
Thanks Doc. El Castillo should look smug and a little bored, for him, "it is all too easy!"
Quote from: miguelyanke on June 18, 2008, 10:48:45 AM
i'm with my chilean friends Your face's works annoying me!!!!
Is his face taken from Antonio Banderas?
Nope, some random Spaniard, but now I have a heap of references, thanks to you :)
Quote from: The_Baroness on June 18, 2008, 06:47:40 AM
...and this only reinforce my idea of making a chilean superteam :P oh well... maybe i post some ideas for them
Definitely. I know very little about Chile and would enjoy learning a little through a resident superteam.
Quote from: Deaths Jester on June 18, 2008, 10:56:36 AM
...what do ye think about me redoing Stahlhelm on Ren's new WWII_Cap'n America mesh? I mean it fits the time period better but I'm unsure if Stahlhelm really needs a body/mesh change.
I reckon it looks great on the golden age cap mesh, that helm is very uniquely shaped, and suits his name 'Steelhelm'. I agree the new Ultimate ww2 Cap mesh is masterful, but I don't see a need to change (unless that kickstarts your skinning bug :P)
I looked at some other skins that use bandana type masks, and yeah, I'm lacking a separating highlight in the middle to show the volume of the object it covers. Cheers for the heads up.
hey car,great stuff brother.how many different countries are you making teams of?
No set number...I started with Russia in a collaboration with Aly Cat, then made the French team and an Italian hero. Then I saw the Spanish coat of arms and got a few ideas on who might make up a Spanish Team.
Although I guess to be honest I was working on an Australian team many years ago at first, which started this whol trend of mine. They will be the largest team of all, rounding out at three subgroups with a half a dozen members each.
I'll probably round out an Italian team to five members, as I will with the Spaniards and I have with the French. After that, who knows? Depends if anything takes my fancy.
I like making the national teams because they look unified and modern, and spandex is relatively easy to skin and make look good. Also you can do the JLA/Avengers analogue thing and almost make reimagined versions of your favourite characters.
If anyone has any ideas for other countries/teams they'd like to see, or even a one off hero from their country, let me know, and no promises, but I'll see what I can do.
Nice work man, your faces always amaze me.
Quote from: Carravaggio on June 18, 2008, 06:09:00 PM
If anyone has any ideas for other countries/teams they'd like to see, or even a one off hero from their country, let me know, and no promises, but I'll see what I can do.
*cough* Puerto Rico *cough*
Sorry i think i have a cold
Well, hit me up with some facts, a flag and a few celebs from Puerto Rico, and if I get an idea, I'll put it on the list.
Check your PM box ;)
OOH OOH OOH!!!!! PICK ME! PICK MY COUNTRY!!!
...................... Canada :unsure: (not MY country I just think it'd be interesting to see)
I really don't think I could improve on the original...
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Carr I'm always in awe of your face and design work.
Thanks, mate. I've gone from dreading making faces for skins to enjoying them the most, and i guess it shows.
A slight departure, a WIP of The Deep, the outcast ocean dwelling avatar of a dark primeval water god
Used Vertex's (back when he was bobby 69) adam warlock mesh and skoped it onto Ink's submariner mesh, added a few 'fins'.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Deep3.jpg)
Needs the gold symbol on his chest, and some recolouring in his armour bits
Wow! Carr, The Deep looks great! I remember when he had a sea weed beard (which I liked as well). But I'm diggin' the fins under his arms and the rest. Very nice work there!
Nice work Carr....Hey...hows about a team from India? Or maybe...an Atlantian team to go along with or against this new character?
Hmmmm...and Atlantian team...now that is interesting! How would you diversify their powers though?
Quote from: Carravaggio on June 18, 2008, 07:52:12 PM
I really don't think I could improve on the original...
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I'm agrre with you. For this, I think that, after the Spanish team, we need an Italian team
Quote from: Dr.Volt on June 20, 2008, 09:05:10 AM
Hmmmm...and Atlantian team...now that is interesting! How would you diversify their powers though?
If I were doing it...maybe they would take on the abilities of different aquatic animals..... amped up. ;) Sorry for the thread jack Carr! :P
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on June 20, 2008, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: Dr.Volt on June 20, 2008, 09:05:10 AM
Hmmmm...and Atlantian team...now that is interesting! How would you diversify their powers though?
If I were doing it...maybe they would take on the abilities of different aquatic animals..... amped up. ;) Sorry for the thread jack Carr! :P
Don't want to hi jack this thread any futher....BC, check your PM. Thanks!
Glad you guys are running with the atlantean idea...as I really wanted to explore the Indian team idea :P
Team India would be dope as hell. :D I'm glad that'll be on your to do list. :thumbup:
Cool stuff,Carr; I made a few underwater chars for NPI, back when we had Lemuria rather than Atlantis. I like the way this is coming along;looking forward to the finished project.
I really like the look of the Deep. The texture on the skin is really nice.
Thanks guys :)
John C, an Italian team is in the works, so no doubt I'll be imposing on you for some translating very soon.
As for Team india, i always thought in another world, Dhalsim could have made a great Indian superhero, especially as he was portrayed in the animated Super Streetfighter II movie.
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As usual, female skins are giving me a lot of grief. AA, how do you manage them so well? :(
She looks nice :)
and i do agree with you that Dhalsim could make a great superhero
Quote from: Carravaggio on June 25, 2008, 06:21:44 PM
As usual, female skins are giving me a lot of grief. AA, how do you manage them so well? :(
I think she came out very well actually. She is a member of your French team right, right?
Looks pretty good to me...thought the transition from the torso to the legs as well as the connection between both sides of the leg sections is a bit off. The only other thing that really stands out is the red on the feet doesn't match the color that ye use on the legs. Besides that it's a good start, mate!
i think her torso is so dark and it's difficult to determinate her bobs size ^_^, anyway it's cool! ^_^ just fix what DJ said and it'll be purfect ^_^
Yeah, I was going to say that your french heroine looks pretty darn good. I guess I would agree that her breasts could be more defined (more shading?). Any how, keep rockin'!
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Something I was playing around with...there's a few projects about the forum involving alternate versions of mainstream heroes, thought I'd give it a go.
Umm..... WOW :eek2:
Love It :thumbup:
Very Carr.
Nice work!
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Very early look at an Australian hero. I'll probably lose the shoulder guards, I think it makes him look a little too military. the real challenge is to fit the union jack on the costume without making him look like Captain Britain. I know the neck colour doesn't match the rest of the white, it will be addressed.
Very cool...I really dig the design. :thumbup: If you're gonna lose the shoulder guards..I'd probably lose all the iron man armor pieces except for arm guards(those are from Syn's Prometheus right?). The knee pads from VX XmenNorthstar would look pretty cool.
Very cool Batman design, is that the Batman_Gren mesh? Also, I'm really liking these international heroes. Very inspiring.
Yeah it's Cas's skope of Gren's Batman onto Ren's Owlman kfs, an awesome Batman :wub:
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on July 03, 2008, 07:03:23 AM
Very cool...I really dig the design. :thumbup: If you're gonna lose the shoulder guards..I'd probably lose all the iron man armor pieces except for arm guards(those are from Syn's Prometheus right?). The knee pads from VX XmenNorthstar would look pretty cool.
Funny i was thinking the same thing about the armour...not familiar with vxNorthstars kneepads...(off to check'em out!)
Hmm, I like the armor it takes away from a normal plain body suit and makes him seem more like a modern knight/guardian or something. But if they're too modern or too battle-ly then I guess you have to use them.
Otherwise, very, very nicely done :)
CAr! very good skin! i love that shoulders and the face s ever your "punto fuerte" (hard point?)
Man, Carr, I love the Australian flag emblem! In fact love the overall design of this guys costume. I'm wondering also about the hair. Is longer hair in style? Or maybe this guy doesn't care...?
It's never out of style over here...
Now I'm wondering what the rest of the team will look like? Hmmmm...hey how's about a surfer Carr? ;)
Quote from: Dr.Volt on July 04, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 04, 2008, 05:55:00 AM
It's never out of style over here...
ROFLOL! :roll:
Same in England!
I tell you the 80s are coming back 'round again ;)
Quote from: BentonGrey on July 05, 2008, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: Lunarman on July 04, 2008, 10:45:47 PM
Quote from: Dr.Volt on July 04, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 04, 2008, 05:55:00 AM
It's never out of style over here...
ROFLOL! :roll:
Same in England!
I tell you the 80s are coming back 'round again ;)
Oh goodness I hope not.
In fairness, still about a million times better than having the 90s over again... You know which decade deserves a second chance? The 60s. The music, the style... *nostalgic sigh*
Regarding the skin of the Australian hero: I appreciate that having a Union Jack fits with the Australian flag, I'm just not sure that the flag is totally necessary as a costume component. Either go for a more stylized version of the flag or concentrate on the stars (which are admittedly not that unique as far as superhero costumes go). The armour is a good idea, though, and certainly differentiates him from many of your other skins.
Funny you mention that flag elements aren't always necessary for a national costume, as this is the first Aussie hero I have actually used the flag on, the rest all have designs using our national colours (green and gold). I shied away from the flag as the red, white and blue colours are shared with too many other nations to be comfortable.
I think the design I used above looks kind of like a T-Shirt design :(
Anyway, some face work.
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probably my best face yet, and one of the fastest. I'm getting better... :) Anyone tell who he is based on? I'll give you a hint...the 'model' is English.
UPDATE:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/00euro_face_burner.jpg)
The whole thing probably took about 40 mins all up, and most of that was the hair.
GEORGE MICHAEL!!!!!
:blink: wow, that`s one of the best face works I`ve ever seen!
That's amazing! and only 40 mins
David Beckham?
You got it Cas :)
The face is for a skin of a character that is the acts and sounds like a soccer hooligan, and I thought Beckham had the right mix of scrawny and scrappy to act as the model for him.
will he have the naggy fame hungry stick insect as a side kick
that was funny evil!
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on July 07, 2008, 10:56:51 AM
will he have the naggy fame hungry stick insect as a side kick
Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! Man, you almost made my Diet Coke squirt out of my nose, Evil!
Carr, that's amazing cuz I've often thought he'd make a great one (for his looks only!). And, spectacular face as usual!!!
Oh, and I still like the flag emblem. But then again I really like nationalistic heroes...not sure why.
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 03, 2008, 06:40:06 AM
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Ack....he has no eyebulbs!!!!! :D The design is pretty cool though. I got a good reference pic for Aussielad if you want it........the pic kinda looks like a cross between what you have done, Nova(Annihilation version), and on steroids.
PM me if you want the pic.
~Z23~
As to that face... holy smokes! I like all the little skin spots on him. If it was an art piece I'd suggest a bit of asymmetry, though.
But still, daaaang.
Thanks for the feedback and comments guys :)
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on July 07, 2008, 10:56:51 AM
will he have the naggy fame hungry stick insect as a side kick?
Don't tempt me man, imagine knocking her around the rumble room...
More facework, this one used my favourite English actor as a 'model'. I think its pretty obvious, but I won't be hugely offended if no-one gets it.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/thunder.jpg)
The way I've drawn the face makes him look older than he is, but thats a consequence of the medium. Its getting so i'm enjoying skinning the face more than the costume itself. This one took maybe two hours, I had to waste a lot of time finding appropriate reference pics.
EDIT:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/th.jpg)
A WIP pic of the character as he stands
love your faces.... incredible :thumbup:
Yes yes....incredible.......just think what that power could do if harnessed for good........ ;)
Seriously though Carr, these last two have been remarkable!
Ohh...ye really have been working on the faces, mate. Really great work...very realistic at that.
-DJ
oh em ji!
ur skinning skills have gotten better gio!
Wow! Another amazing skin by another amazing man :p
Patrick Stewart perhaps? face-wise I mean...
Jeez... makes me want to delete photoshop and cry with jealousy.
Quote from: Rival on July 11, 2008, 07:23:58 PM
Jeez... makes me want to delete photoshop and cry with jealousy.
No way! Let it inspire you. With some practice and work, you can get there, too.
Carravaggio, those faces are incredible. I particularly love the hair on the David Beckham-inspired face, it looks absolutely perfect.
So, um, let me know if you're ever going to release some skin bases. ;)
or a face skinning tutorial *hint hint*
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/thunder.jpg) (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/seanbean-1.jpg)
Anyone see a resemblance? :P
You are truly talented, man. It's amazing seeing the original source along with your work side by side and how it has translated.
Keep up the good work. :thumbup:
Those faces look really impressive. They remind me of the style used by the
Bitmap Brothers (Speedball, Chaos Engine; old Amiga games).
Nice!
Sean Bean! Why didn't I see it before? And I don't know Ips...I got the Beckham one right away. :doh:
A very nice likeness Carr!
its boromir!
i win the game! :D
What can be said about your faces that hasn't already been said? You got skills. :thumbup:
Thanks guys.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/tex.jpg)
Texas Ranger, the bulletproof oldschool hero of the Lone Star State. Few details/extras need fine tuning, but I thought I'd share. I think he's neat :)
Any Texans on the forum?
I like it, but I can't help but think he needs something in the white section around the abdomen, or the collar needs to be higher than the low shoulder cut you have now, because currently he kinda looks like he's wearing a boob tube :huh:
Thanks for the good advice, UFB
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Untitled-1-5.jpg)
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 21, 2008, 12:01:29 AM
Thanks guys.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/tex.jpg)
Texas Ranger, the bulletproof oldschool hero of the Lone Star State. Few details/extras need fine tuning, but I thought I'd share. I think he's neat :)
Any Texans on the forum?
Well, I have lived in Texas for about 7 years (off and on...long story) and was actually born in TX....so I guess I qualify. And it's funny, I've actually thought a patriotic Texan hero, in some ways, makes MORE sense then a patriotic US hero. Don't get me wrong I dig Cap America and the rest! But if you've been to Texas you'll know what I mean. I'm not sure there is another State in the whole US in which whose residents are more proud of being citizens of their respective State. For example, I grew up in Southern California, and believe me, people in SoCal could care less about being Californians per se'. A friend of mine described this pride as being "Statriotic" which made be laugh. It's VERY common to see businesses and residences and cars displaying the Texas flag and State of Texas silouette day-in-day-out (iow, not just on Texas holidays). So yeah, a "Statriotic" Texan hero is entirely appropriate. And as a note, if you want to be stereo-typical, this hero would probably be mega obnoxious/overconfident/overbearing and yet have a heart of gold and be truly heroic. He would probably be something like Walker Texas Ranger...just a little more obnoxious. Whooohhhhhaaaa!!!!
And it's odd too, that I was actually mowing my lawn yesterday thinking that it would be cool to have a Texan version of Cap Am and have his name be something with the name "Ranger" in it. Guess I was just tapping into that vibe. :)
Well, just my spare change.
Btw, I'll comment on the actual skin soon. My work blocks certain sites (and the one that this image is hosted on is blocked). :( But I can't wait to see it! I'm sure the face rocks! ;)
Glad you like it Doc...naturally while i was skinning him, four other Texan heroes were formed in my mind...on the list they go :lol:
Most of your comments echo my thinking. I reckon Ranger here has that old world 'gentle veteran cowboy' thing going on, the soft spoken veteran that everyone heeds. The over-confident personality would suit another of the Texans.
Voicepacks for these guys would be a blast ^_^
A quick rundown:
Texas Ranger, Leader, Luke Cage level powers, old school vet hero
Lone Star: Female energist and resident flier
Medicine man: martian manhunter/shaman type with a range of versatile powers
Twister: Aerokineticist, natch
Outlaw: Wields haunted pistols of an old west outlaw. They gained sentience in rebellion of all the blood they were forced to spill, and now fight evil, but refuse to kill (so they shoot magic non lethal bullets, ala Tombstone)
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 21, 2008, 06:38:11 AM
Glad you like it Doc...naturally while i was skinning him, four other Texan heroes were formed in my mind...on the list they go :lol:
Most of your comments echo my thinking. I reckon Ranger here has that old world 'gentle veteran cowboy' thing going on, the soft spoken veteran that everyone heeds. The over-confident personality would suit another of the Texans.
Voicepacks for these guys would be a blast ^_^
A quick rundown:
Texas Ranger, Leader, Luke Cage level powers, old school vet hero
Lone Star: Female energist and resident flier
Medicine man: martian manhunter/shaman type with a range of versatile powers
Twister: Aerokineticist, natch
Outlaw: Wields haunted pistols of an old west outlaw. They gained sentience in rebellion of all the blood they were forced to spill, and now fight evil, but refuse to kill (so they shoot magic non lethal bullets, ala Tombstone)
Man, Carr, I really love your original characters. They're just always so well thought out. On a side note, did you ever release your alternate Batman?
Well...Texan 'ere and I gotta say it seems a bit off to me to have a Patriotic texan...course being a non-patriotic type I guess that explains everything. As for the skin. might I suggest adding a shadow on the head to illustrate the hat being worn. Also I feel like he needs something around his stomach. Not sure what though..it just seems really blank there. Also the gloves seem to not match up with the skin (I'm talking about where the add-on flares match up with the hands). Past that and the want to see a bit more texturing (What?!?!?! I like textures on my skins nowadays...lol), not a bad start, mate.
-DJ
Quote from: Deaths Jester on July 21, 2008, 09:21:41 AM
Well...Texan 'ere and I gotta say it seems a bit off to me to have a Patriotic texan...course being a non-patriotic type I guess that explains everything. As for the skin. might I suggest adding a shadow on the head to illustrate the hat being worn. Also I feel like he needs something around his stomach. Not sure what though..it just seems really blank there. Also the gloves seem to not match up with the skin (I'm talking about where the add-on flares match up with the hands). Past that and the want to see a bit more texturing (What?!?!?! I like textures on my skins nowadays...lol), not a bad start, mate.
-DJ
You live in Texas!?!?!?
*flees to the border*
Back to the subject, I am not the most patriotic Texan, but it is still a very nice skin. The face reminds me of a certain actor, but i cant think of who....
think you need a huge red stripe down his stomach and one star. They don't call it the Lone Star State for nuthin':
(http://www.theus50.com/images/state-flags/texas-flag.jpg)
Give 'em some six shooters to boot! How about a lasso?
Rest look great. Love the big mustache.
looks awsome carr.i had a kind of silly/strange character idea.since they roam through out texas;how about a big hulking powerhouse mutant or tech/armored character called ARMORDILLO.heavily armored,super strong,raking steel claws, and maybe built in weapons.
Lookjs good. As someone who has a character called Captain Alabama on his hard drive, I won't criticize the subject matter.
Wow...nice work on this one! Now that I'm seeing him, I can't see him as overbearing at all. He looks like a horse whisperer type guy.
Quote from: Cyber Burn on July 21, 2008, 09:10:17 AM
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 21, 2008, 06:38:11 AM
Glad you like it Doc...naturally while i was skinning him, four other Texan heroes were formed in my mind...on the list they go :lol:
Most of your comments echo my thinking. I reckon Ranger here has that old world 'gentle veteran cowboy' thing going on, the soft spoken veteran that everyone heeds. The over-confident personality would suit another of the Texans.
Voicepacks for these guys would be a blast ^_^
A quick rundown:
Texas Ranger, Leader, Luke Cage level powers, old school vet hero
Lone Star: Female energist and resident flier
Medicine man: martian manhunter/shaman type with a range of versatile powers
Twister: Aerokineticist, natch
Outlaw: Wields haunted pistols of an old west outlaw. They gained sentience in rebellion of all the blood they were forced to spill, and now fight evil, but refuse to kill (so they shoot magic non lethal bullets, ala Tombstone)
Man, Carr, I really love your original characters. They're just always so well thought out. On a side note, did you ever release your alternate Batman?
Here-here as to Carr's OC concepts! They rock as much as his skins!
Very nice improvements you've made there Car. Massive difference between the two pics and the second is much much better, loving that collar :)
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 21, 2008, 06:38:11 AM
Glad you like it Doc...naturally while i was skinning him, four other Texan heroes were formed in my mind...on the list they go :lol:
Most of your comments echo my thinking. I reckon Ranger here has that old world 'gentle veteran cowboy' thing going on, the soft spoken veteran that everyone heeds. The over-confident personality would suit another of the Texans.
Voicepacks for these guys would be a blast ^_^
A quick rundown:
Texas Ranger, Leader, Luke Cage level powers, old school vet hero
Lone Star: Female energist and resident flier
Medicine man: martian manhunter/shaman type with a range of versatile powers
Twister: Aerokineticist, natch
Outlaw: Wields haunted pistols of an old west outlaw. They gained sentience in rebellion of all the blood they were forced to spill, and now fight evil, but refuse to kill (so they shoot magic non lethal bullets, ala Tombstone)
Ye know Car that now I'm going to have to make a group of cowboy/texas themed villians to kick their collective arses. right? Blast ye for thinking lik eme! :P
Quote from: Deaths Jester on July 22, 2008, 09:18:17 AM
Ye know Car that now I'm going to have to make a group of cowboy/texas themed villians to kick their collective arses. right? Blast ye for thinking lik eme! :P
:thumbup:
nice move with the collar, fixed my boob tube issue completely :P and completes a very nice aesthetic matching the hat :)
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 22, 2008, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on July 22, 2008, 09:18:17 AM
Ye know Car that now I'm going to have to make a group of cowboy/texas themed villians to kick their collective arses. right? Blast ye for thinking lik eme! :P
:thumbup:
Ye are such an evil man!
The design is pretty straight forward but there is nothing wrong with that. I'm really looking forward to the Medicine Man.
hey any plans on doing a scandinavian team ?that would be awsome :thumbup:
No plans for Scandinavia at this point, but never say never!
The last two nations to go on the list to get team skins had people sending me info about their country's celebrities, landmarks, folklore and culture. Anyone wants a national team skin, send me a bunch of that stuff (pics and info, saves me doing the research :P) and if I get some ideas from it, I'll put them on the (ever-growing) list :)
Thanks for the additional comments and ideas, guys, got all the skopes for the Texans done, now for the pretty colours...
Quote from: Deaths Jester on July 23, 2008, 10:41:50 AM
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 22, 2008, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on July 22, 2008, 09:18:17 AM
Ye know Car that now I'm going to have to make a group of cowboy/texas themed villians to kick their collective arses. right? Blast ye for thinking lik eme! :P
:thumbup:
Ye are such an evil man!
Ahhh, ya luv me ya magnificent undead bastard! :D
Car, what ever happened to your Israeli team?
They're still on The List :)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Untitled-1-6.jpg)
Tommy "Twister" Timms is a budding aerokineticist (he moves air ;) ) and the most recent recruit to Texas' superhuman team.
The whirlwind, nabbed from Rev's skoped Red Tornado, only appears during flight and hover animations, thanks to Ren's GL mesh; I pasted the FX onto the GL aura :) works a treat. Considering making the twister brown, like dirt and debris. Thoughts?
More Texans in the works.
How about brownish red dirt? Seems to be more typical of the Texas plains, from what I know. Black looks pretty good though...it looks like he is stirring up topsoil and/or urban grime.
Sweet! :thumbup:
An early look at the skope for the Medicine Man
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01-9.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard02-2.jpg)
Took me hours to find a piece that could work as a leather thong for his necklace, finally happened upon the bridle on Tommyboy's horseriding Black Knight modern. I tell ya, without TB, most of the skopes we make either wouldn't exist, or would be less impressive than they are.
this skope uses Gren's Shaman as a base. I'm playing with the keys so he floats even when idle.
While not so good in a fist fight, the Medicine Man has powerful magic to draw upon, putting him in the upper classes of mystics in the US. In the rumble room I intend him to play like a cross between Mentor and Alchemiss.
I love having the one or two characters on a team that don't even actually physically attack, yet still can be the crux of battle.
Medicine Man looks cool. I like the feathers. Changing the keyframes is easy, too, by the way. If you are using M25's tool. But you probably know that.
I like these Texan characters, but I've gotta ask... It isn't going to be a bunch of white people with the one token native american, who of course has to wear a traditional looking costume instead of spandex? Granted, I'm not actually from Texas, but the people I knew from there seemed more diverse than that.
Actually, that reminds me that I don't make nearly enough differently racial characters. Mostly just white and Indian, with a few black people tossed in here and there. I oughtta fix that.
Medicine man is just as amazing as I thought he would be.
When is any of these getting released?
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 31, 2008, 08:32:51 AM
I tell ya, without TB, most of the skopes we make either wouldn't exist, or would be less impressive than they are.
That is such a true statement thats why I love the dude!
Stunning as usual, Carr. I love this design for the Medicine Man.
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 31, 2008, 04:57:48 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Untitled-1-6.jpg)
Tommy "Twister" Timms is a budding aerokineticist (he moves air ;) ) and the most recent recruit to Texas' superhuman team.
The whirlwind, nabbed from Rev's skoped Red Tornado, only appears during flight and hover animations, thanks to Ren's GL mesh; I pasted the FX onto the GL aura :) works a treat. Considering making the twister brown, like dirt and debris. Thoughts?
More Texans in the works.
Ohhh...a newbie going up against a professional criminal demon in Dust Devil...oh this aught to be interesting. ;)
Quote from: UnkoMan on July 31, 2008, 09:30:45 AM
I love having the one or two characters on a team that don't even actually physically attack, yet still can be the crux of battle.
Medicine Man looks cool. I like the feathers. Changing the keyframes is easy, too, by the way. If you are using M25's tool. But you probably know that.
I like these Texan characters, but I've gotta ask... It isn't going to be a bunch of white people with the one token native american, who of course has to wear a traditional looking costume instead of spandex? Granted, I'm not actually from Texas, but the people I knew from there seemed more diverse than that.
Actually, that reminds me that I don't make nearly enough differently racial characters. Mostly just white and Indian, with a few black people tossed in here and there. I oughtta fix that.
I can say that for the villians there will be a black and a Native American...not sure about what Car has in his group but the villians are representin'!
Quote from: UnkoMan on July 31, 2008, 09:30:45 AM
I love having the one or two characters on a team that don't even actually physically attack, yet still can be the crux of battle.
me too!
Quote from: UnkoMan on July 31, 2008, 09:30:45 AM
I like these Texan characters, but I've gotta ask... It isn't going to be a bunch of white people with the one token native american, who of course has to wear a traditional looking costume instead of spandex?
Yep, thats exactly what it is. I feel I have a diverse enough range of characters, I mean, I'm skinning people from a range of nations and religions, but superheroes and comic conventions often deal with cliches, archetypes and pastiches, this is one I will have to be allowed :)
Taking a page from Dr Manhatten's book, the Medicine Man is so powerful and long lived he hardly see the need for clothing, but wears the minimum to retain decorum for his teammates.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on July 31, 2008, 10:56:44 AM
Medicine man is just as amazing as I thought he would be.
Thanks :)
Quote from: AfghanAnt on July 31, 2008, 10:56:44 AM
When is any of these getting released?
Uh...soon?
I'm still working on hosting issues/space. I know I'm way behind in my releases, in fact I haven't released even a single skin previewed in this entire thread (go ahead and check, I'll wait....
....
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...see? Told you!)
I'm working on it, I would like to have released something, anything, by now.
I just hope you all think its worth the wait, I do :)
Thanks for the comments guys.
Outlaw! Possessed by haunted firearms used by a Texas desperado, he fights evil with bare knuckles, a fearsome stare and magic bullets that wound only the guilty!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01-10.jpg)
Going to redo the alpha on the cape so its tattered like Tombstone's
Obviously uses Ren's incredible Vigilante_GA mesh, along with parts from TB and Gren.
Quote from: Carravaggio on August 01, 2008, 02:08:40 AM
Outlaw! Possessed by haunted firearms used by a Texas desperado, he fights evil with bare knuckles, a fearsome stare and magic bullets that wound only the guilty!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01-10.jpg)
Going to redo the alpha on the cape so its tattered like Tombstone's
Obviously uses Ren's incredible Vigilante_GA mesh, along with parts from TB and Gren.
:huh: What the :huh:......DAMN! Carr...that's friggin' AWESOME! By far my favorite of you skins/skopes. Great work man!
I have to say, I think its my favourite as well. Really great facial expression.
Quote from: UnkoMan on July 31, 2008, 09:30:45 AM
I love having the one or two characters on a team that don't even actually physically attack, yet still can be the crux of battle.
Medicine Man looks cool. I like the feathers. Changing the keyframes is easy, too, by the way. If you are using M25's tool. But you probably know that.
I like these Texan characters, but I've gotta ask... It isn't going to be a bunch of white people with the one token native american, who of course has to wear a traditional looking costume instead of spandex? Granted, I'm not actually from Texas, but the people I knew from there seemed more diverse than that.
Actually, that reminds me that I don't make nearly enough differently racial characters. Mostly just white and Indian, with a few black people tossed in here and there. I oughtta fix that.
I think the diversity point is a good one. Texans are in deed very diverse. Carr, if you want to reflect that diversity I would put at least one Latino/Hispanic on the team and maybe one African American.
Also, I am LOVING these skins! Excellent, excellent job on Outlaw! Maybe you could make him Hispanic? ;) And I really like Texas Twister and Medicine Man! But, for some reason I'm not feeling Medicine Man's skulls. They just seem out of place to me. Most of what I've seen in Native American lore doesn't involve those kind of symbols. That's more like South American or Polynesian. Well, just my spare change as always.
And I join AA in asking....sooooooo...when do these get released??? :thumbup: ;)
What happens if I do mess with Texas, hmm? Hmm?
The Outlaw is rather spectacularly (but not surprisingly) first rate, Carravaggio. I love the design, and the colours, lines, and detailing are as crisp as one of my starched shirts. Moreover, he vaguely reminds me of a certain someone else who wears a mask, dons a hat, and fancies the dark blue to deep purple spectrum ... ;)
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Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning
Quote from: Dr.Volt on August 01, 2008, 06:13:32 AM
for some reason I'm not feeling Medicine Man's skulls. They just seem out of place to me. Most of what I've seen in Native American lore doesn't involve those kind of symbols. That's more like South American or Polynesian. Well, just my spare change as always.
And I join AA in asking....sooooooo...when do these get released??? :thumbup: ;)
I hate to say it, but he is right. Being of Mohawk descent myself, I have never seen HUMAN skulls in any rituals or beliefs. Though I think they look really cool....
As for Outlaw, that skope is incredible as is the skin. My only critique is that the blue on the cape doesn't seem to match any of the colors on the costume. Was this intentional or just not finished??
I don't think that I can say anything that hasn't been said, so I'll just say "Thank you". Your originals are just so well put together. I am absolutely looking forward to seeing these in - game.
Quote from: Carravaggio on July 21, 2008, 06:38:11 AM
Glad you like it Doc...naturally while i was skinning him, four other Texan heroes were formed in my mind...on the list they go :lol:
Most of your comments echo my thinking. I reckon Ranger here has that old world 'gentle veteran cowboy' thing going on, the soft spoken veteran that everyone heeds. The over-confident personality would suit another of the Texans.
Voicepacks for these guys would be a blast ^_^
A quick rundown:
Texas Ranger, Leader, Luke Cage level powers, old school vet hero
Lone Star: Female energist and resident flier
Medicine man: martian manhunter/shaman type with a range of versatile powers
Twister: Aerokineticist, natch
Outlaw: Wields haunted pistols of an old west outlaw. They gained sentience in rebellion of all the blood they were forced to spill, and now fight evil, but refuse to kill (so they shoot magic non lethal bullets, ala Tombstone)
One other idea, I've always like the name Yellow Rose (as in the ballad "The Yellow Rose of Texas"). Perhaps she could be a female mentalist/martial artist??? Just a thought.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/regitled-1.jpg)
A bit of a tweak, the tattered alpha'ed cape.
Billdamn, yeah hadn't changed the colour yet, its actually the same collar and skin as on Texas Ranger
Doc I like the idea, especially after reading a bit into the legend, but at the moment I'm trying to limit teams to five apiece, otherwise my imagination runs rampart and I get sidetracked. After I complete a few other skins I might come back to the Texans and fit another teammate in.
Doesn't help I've already designed a costume for her :P
As for releases, all I can say is 'soon'. Sorry I don't have anything more concrete.
Thanks CB, heck of a compliment :)
In regards to the skulls, theya re the next best thing to a string of rib bones, which was in the original design, but I couldn't find appropriate parts for. Can we just say the skulls carry three powerful and dangerous manitou and MM acts as a type of prison for them,a nd thats why he carries them with him at all times?
Now if he were to be stunned in the rumble room, there is a chance one or more could break free and wreak havoc on both teams...
OTS: I don't know, I've never tried. feel free to though, and let us all know what happens... :unsure:
Quote from: Carravaggio on August 03, 2008, 08:39:50 AM
In regards to the skulls, theya re the next best thing to a string of rib bones, which was in the original design, but I couldn't find appropriate parts for. Can we just say the skulls carry three powerful and dangerous manitou and MM acts as a type of prison for them,a nd thats why he carries them with him at all times?
Now if he were to be stunned in the rumble room, there is a chance one or more could break free and wreak havoc on both teams...
Wow........that is an exceptionally cool idea.
Quote from: Carravaggio on August 03, 2008, 08:39:50 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/regitled-1.jpg)
A bit of a tweak, the tattered alpha'ed cape.
Billdamn, yeah hadn't changed the colour yet, its actually the same collar and skin as on Texas Ranger
Doc I like the idea, especially after reading a bit into the legend, but at the moment I'm trying to limit teams to five apiece, otherwise my imagination runs rampart and I get sidetracked. After I complete a few other skins I might come back to the Texans and fit another teammate in.
Doesn't help I've already designed a costume for her :P
As for releases, all I can say is 'soon'. Sorry I don't have anything more concrete.
Thanks CB, heck of a compliment :)
In regards to the skulls, theya re the next best thing to a string of rib bones, which was in the original design, but I couldn't find appropriate parts for. Can we just say the skulls carry three powerful and dangerous manitou and MM acts as a type of prison for them,a nd thats why he carries them with him at all times?
Now if he were to be stunned in the rumble room, there is a chance one or more could break free and wreak havoc on both teams...
OTS: I don't know, I've never tried. feel free to though, and let us all know what happens... :unsure:
First....LOVE the new cape on Outlaw!!!!!!!!
And the skull explanation is a very cool one. Maybe he has relatives in South America. ;)
If you ever do decide to do Yellow Rose...I'm sure she will be excellent. Rock on, my friend!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/batled-1.jpg)
Skope for another of DJ and my Nazi team.
All of these are just too cool. We're lucky to have you around Car.
It's not possible. O your good... too gud :thumbup:
Hmm, another stinkin' Ratzi! I can't wait to see this guy, Car!
I really like the design of this guy. Very Dark Knight but that's kind of cool especially with the Nazi background. Is he going to have some sort of symbol or will it be the swastik?
Maybe you and DJ should do a groupshot so we can see the team together. I've seen them seperately but it would be cool to see how their designs look together. That is something I've always admired that about basic four-color designs, they can be put together and look like they were designed by the same person but you know you will get something different with each character.
He's like a midget Batman. Wait, IS that Wolvie's body, or just the boots? There appears to be a bit of foot clippage, so I'd be inclined with the latter. Simple, but effective costume. I don't know about the line in the middle of the glove, though. Perhaps you ought put another on the higher finger joints?
You keep cranking those out! Nice work. i especially like the Outlaw.
By the way,
QuoteBut originals is what this game was made for. So lets support them.
Amen, so true!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/monsterman.jpg)
Monsterman!
At will, government employee Mike Manlin can transform into a massive, super strong, raging superhuman! Unfortunately his wardrobe often fares as poorly as the environment around him. Almost as much money is spent on replacement uniforms as is spent on repairs to property damaged while he is on assignment.
I like it. I love that you gave him a costume form too.
Very nice idea, would be interested to see his hero file :)
The idea is for him to transform from the first (costumed form) into the large form. If he wants to transform back into he human for for any reason, he is changed into the briefs wearing version.
Quote from: Lunarman on August 15, 2008, 02:18:20 AM
Very nice idea, would be interested to see his hero file :)
Ditto! And I would also be interested to see him in rumble room :D
monster man would look cool with alot of veins showing.kinda like his skin/body has been stretched to the max.
:lol: That's pretty sweet. Maybe give him hair though. Ren's masterful mesh of the Hulk is the awesome...but the head is modeled with the semblence of hair so bald won't work all that well IMO. ;)
Quote from: Carravaggio on August 15, 2008, 02:32:11 AM
The idea is for him to transform from the first (costumed form) into the large form. If he wants to transform back into he human for for any reason, he is changed into the briefs wearing version.
Makes sense! Like this OC concept. Nice skins as ever!
I really like all the shapes of the muscles a lot and I don't mind the head so much. There people with very square heads and besides he's a monster.
The only thing that seemed disjointed to me was you mentioned he destroys a lot of costumes but there is no evidence of that in his trunks.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on August 15, 2008, 07:41:14 AM
The only thing that seemed disjointed to me was you mentioned he destroys a lot of costumes but there is no evidence of that in his trunks.
Yep...I'm lazy.
Quote from: Carravaggio on August 15, 2008, 07:44:12 AM
Quote from: AfghanAnt on August 15, 2008, 07:41:14 AM
The only thing that seemed disjointed to me was you mentioned he destroys a lot of costumes but there is no evidence of that in his trunks.
Yep...I'm lazy.
lol me too. :)
Oh man... did you know I was thinking about making some character who would go through these three steps just because Ren made that Hulk mesh. You beat me to it, though.
I say... don't get lazy. It wouldn't be too much work to make those shorts look torn. You outta go for it, man.
Anyhow, it does look cool, and I love the strained muscles.
Wow, you've come on leaps and bounds carr.
I do sometimes come here to check out the skins, and usually check your thread.
Don't know where you keep getting the ideas from, I dried up ages ago, but maybe, just maybe I'll turn out a skin for you to critique soon.................
Quote from: Shazam on August 15, 2008, 04:49:48 PM
...just maybe I'll turn out a skin for you to critique soon.................
DO IT!
YEah I'll skin some shredded edges onto Monsterman's briefs for that torn look. I'll do it..tomorrow-no! The day after tomorrow...
make a villain called the Giant Midget!
:cool:
'nuff said.
Where's his hair?!?! :P
But really good work so far, mate...I'll comment more when ye get a bit further into the skin.
Monsterman looks cool, but somethings bugging me... the eyebrow area is just too flat. Maybe add a highlight at the top just to give the impression that it juts out a bit?
But yeah, I completely agree with the others, and it is a nice change to see a character who "hulks out" actually have a uniform in his normal state.
Man, I'm itching to play with these characters. Every one you've posted here seems to have real personality. I check back constantly hoping to hear the news that they're up somewhere, ready for download. Any chance you'll be able to find the time to put them on a yahoo group? Heck, I'm sure if you can't do it, there's no shortage of folks willing to do it for you!
Anyway, thank you for all your hard work and creativity. Just seeing your painstaking care and attention to detail is a boost.
Quote from: Doctor TOC on August 28, 2008, 06:37:32 AM
Man, I'm itching to play with these characters. Every one you've posted here seems to have real personality. I check back constantly hoping to hear the news that they're up somewhere, ready for download. Any chance you'll be able to find the time to put them on a yahoo group? Heck, I'm sure if you can't do it, there's no shortage of folks willing to do it for you!
Anyway, thank you for all your hard work and creativity. Just seeing your painstaking care and attention to detail is a boost.
Patience
Yahoo groups suck moose booty. Skins... excuse me characters like these need proper presentation.
:cool:
Quote from: House Quake on August 29, 2008, 03:24:03 AM
Quote from: Doctor TOC on August 28, 2008, 06:37:32 AM
Man, I'm itching to play with these characters. Every one you've posted here seems to have real personality. I check back constantly hoping to hear the news that they're up somewhere, ready for download. Any chance you'll be able to find the time to put them on a yahoo group? Heck, I'm sure if you can't do it, there's no shortage of folks willing to do it for you!
Anyway, thank you for all your hard work and creativity. Just seeing your painstaking care and attention to detail is a boost.
Patience
Yahoo groups suck moose booty. Skins... excuse me characters like these need proper presentation.
:cool:
True, but for those of us who are HTML challenged, it is the best way to go.
Quote from: daglob on August 29, 2008, 06:57:19 PM
True, but for those of us who are HTML challenged, it is the best way to go.
Seconded, and considering that none of the amazing work in this thread has been released, maybe moose booty is better than no presentation at all?
What happened to your google page Carr?
:P
Voltimax... you have mail.
Quote from: Doctor TOC on August 30, 2008, 01:06:57 AM
Quote from: daglob on August 29, 2008, 06:57:19 PM
True, but for those of us who are HTML challenged, it is the best way to go.
Seconded, and considering that none of the amazing work in this thread has been released, maybe moose booty is better than no presentation at all?
Like I said... patience.
Truth is ... Yahoo groups are not the best way to go... they are the
easiest. I like them for thier ability to archieve... but other than that... more hassle often, than they are worth... IMHO. There are tons of free host with site builders and templates which require absolutelty no HTML knowledge what so ever. Most are
What
You
See
Is
What
You
Get type of site builders. There are also free file host who allow zip files to be uploaded and linked to with no problems as welll. We used to maintain a list of the best ones.. but that was years ago. I started the last one.. I may start another. Because peeps should be aware of the resources which are available. There are currently better options today than it was back when.
But moreso to the point... for Carr it's not just about the skins and skopes... its about the characters, thier stories and the world they inhabit. The skins are just a part of the whole. Yahoo groups don't lend themselves well to what it is he wants to do.
Hence he's been trying to get his stuff up on the web via an actuall site
Hence I'm back on my job after an extended break.. making sure that happens.
There have been major delays along the way (like Carr's current PC problems and my health issues) but things are now moving forward and they will be presented in a way he wishes. :cool:
Well gratz to both of you. This is some really good news :thumbup: Thank you for bringing us these wonderful Characters Car and thank you House Quake for working on a way to properly present them :)
You are, of course, correct. It's a crime to rush an artist. Apologies if I seem pushy, but this stuff is so good! Time to practice my patience mantra.
"Excellence is worth waiting for, excellence is worth waiting for..." :D
A quick update;
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/MM.jpg)
Monsterman with his torn pants.
Big HDD problems mean I have lost a few skins and a lot of skopes :angry: and the time it took to get the PC repaired has also delayed me, but I'm back in action and should have more to show shortly.
The time off gave me plenty of time to make up new characters :rolleyes:
Glad to see you back in action Car! Monster Man doesn't move me much, but the face is interesting. Did you lose any of your Ratzi team?
Great! Awesome that you're back at it! :thumbup:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/starcade.jpg)
Starcade: Young Patriot!
I've designed almost one hundred new characters during my forced sabbatical, so its hard to know where to start. Therefore i just opened the sketchbook to a random page and decided to skin whichever character was there.
I think those thigh stars are a bit unnecessary, I'll probably drop them in the next version.
Cas: Thanks, mate, I have a lot of lost time to make up for!
BG: Only a few, not enough to slow me down :)
Car you've done it again! :D That face work is just amazing! :thumbup:
I am really loving Monsterman. I can't wait to pit him against some of mine.
I'm digging Monsterman a lot. Is Young Patriot a Texan hero?
Nice to see one of the masters is back doing what he does best. :cool:
when you do finally release them there should be a flood of new original characters!any idea how many youve created to release?
nice job!
Quote from: AfghanAnt on October 22, 2008, 07:59:39 AM
I'm digging Monsterman a lot. Is Young Patriot a Texan hero?
I was actually wondering the same thing. Phenomenal work as usual, Carr! Btw, GREAT name!
Spartas, superstrong anti hero claiming to be a descendant of Herakles. and his power certainy matches that claim. He views the world with ancient sensibilities in which killing and war are justifiable and expected. These attitudes bring him into conflict with many heroes. Spartas cannot understand why the champions of the modern world are so 'weak' and why they fight him.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/spartas.jpg)
I plan on adding a bunch of detail to the helm, but the colour scheme and design is as good as done.
Thanks for all the other compliments guys, its good to be able to make skins again, I guess the time away allowed me to recharge my batteries.
As for the questions about Starcade the Young Patriot, I don't plan on him being a member of the Texas Rangers, he is a solo hero, or maybe a sidekick.
Nice one Carr! :thumbup: You know what though...I think that he could use another armor piece or two to go with that helm...maybe like a shoulder guard..or a pair of gauntlets and greaves. Maybe even give him that Captain Marvel cape...with the rope and medallion. But that's just my two cents
I like it. Especially the face mask under the helmet, really gives the whole design an extra something.
You really have a way with colours, I love it.
Carr, while your execution is always great. Your designs are starting to read as repetitive. I feel like I've seen this one before. In fact, I feel like Hero Machine just spits out the designs for some of your characters and you skin them. I know you are capable of better work. Especially when I look at your sketches. Your Jewish Superhero sketch had me so inspired. I actually thought to myself "Ant, you need to step your game up 'cause people are gunning for you" but now I'm like "Uhmmm didn't I see this design already?" Maybe you are stretching yourself too thin and mass producing rather than creating. This was all said with encouragement for better design and more dynamic characters please do not take this personal.
For ramping him up I'd take Cas' suggestion and maybe even look at some Grecian armor for inspiration. Would someone who is descended from a Demi-God really wear spandex, and if he does, wouldn't he wear something that would be armor-looking at least?
on the contrary, i must say i really liked the Spartas design. i like how the cape color flows all the way down to the boots. the front part somehow in my mind carries the idea of the chain apron that soldiers wore in that period.
I can see where you're both coming from. Carr's execution is phenomenal. But he does use a lot of similar motifs; long bands of color connecting the various body parts are one. Minimalist design with one or two completely different elements is another. On the other hand, your execution is phenomenal, your color choice is brilliant, and those completely different elements give each character a distinctive look. Not to mention your terrific facial work.
Ultimately, I like your skins and I like your characters. But you are capable of doing stuff a bajillion times more unique than this.
I'll nod my head in agreement with that. Carr is a marvelous skinner. Nobody can ever deny that. (Although I will say the "mohawk" part on this newest one's helmet looks a bit odd. I don't know the mapping situation though, so maybe it's the best that can be done.)
However, I do agree a lot of these guys look fairly generic. In fact, I don't view most of your characters as the mainstream a-listers ever. Granted, maybe you are going for that. I mean for those generic villains you were doing, it worked awesome. For these large groups of heroes, they always feel more like the guys you see standing around in the background during some huge storyline, then the frontliners.
Granted, this isn't true for all your characters... your African Justice League stood out a bit more. The wonder woman, aquaman really stood out. I think there was a sweet dude with hammers, too? And I recall you doing this other villain whose head was a brain in a jar. Now that's just awesome.
But, yeah, a lot of them feel just sort of generic. Monster Man, for example. I like the idea of using the three different costumes, but the end result is just a large, hairless, white guy. He could just as easily be called "Huge." There's really nothing monstrous about him.
Ey Car you always surprise me and therfore I'm always looking forward to your work. Keep up the great work :thumbup:
I must admit I definitely see where AA is coming. Alot of your skins have similar design patterns.
You know the one thing I dislike about this forum is that people will be patting you on the back one minute then kicking you in the arse the next.
Sorry if that offends you guys that are criticizing Carr, but I really don't care if I am. I'm sure I'm not the only one that knows Carr outside of this forum and I know he skins for himself, no one else.
So what if his skins look generic? All superhero/villain skins look generic. I mean let's face it there are thousands of them out there now. One thing I know about Carr's characters as does HQ etc is that it isn't just the costume design. Carr puts in a lot of character development and not just the character but the universe in which they exist.
I find it very amusing that the ones that are criticizing, primarily only skin other peoples characters.
Quote from: Voltimax on October 26, 2008, 07:53:04 AM
Sorry if that offends you guys that are criticizing Carr, but I really don't care if I am.
I think you are mistaking critique for criticizing. I have not seen anyone once state "that sucks" or "I don't like at" in fact he received praise for his ability to skin and his tenacity from me and others but he also received feedback on the overall design for Spartas and others. I personally think his last couple of skins have become very predictable and I just think he can do better than the obvious in costume design (he has done so before).
Quote from: Voltimax on October 26, 2008, 07:53:04 AM
So what if his skins look generic? All superhero/villain skins look generic. I mean let's face it there are thousands of them out there now. One thing I know about Carr's characters as does HQ etc is that it isn't just the costume design. Carr puts in a lot of character development and not just the character but the universe in which they exist.
All superheroes/villain look generic? Are you serious with this comment? I am sure you can tell the difference between a new character like Invincible and Superman right even though they have the same alien/uber-mensch background?
This was not an critique on the characters development or "universe", it was a critique on Carr's design. So there is no need to bring up this points other than trying to dance around the topic.
Quote from: Voltimax on October 26, 2008, 07:53:04 AM
I find it very amusing that the ones that are criticizing, primarily only skin other peoples characters.
Last time I checked Cas is doing a whole line of redesigns (yes redesign count as new designs) and new characters, Unko has a huge and interesting collection of originals and I have a broad spectrum of skins which include everything from originals to owned. Again this has nothing to do with design which is what the comments were made towards.
For the record, I never once thought the character was lame or any other characters he's done as such. I do think his design leave something to the imagine and as a friend I thought I could give him my honest opinion rather than posting "OMG dat dude iz teh leetzors, Carr. He pwns teh Grecian w0rld!!!!". God forbid we start being honest with people we know. <_<
EDIT: As I've posted here and responded to a pm to Carr, it was critique on his costume design work as of late. I wouldn't have posted if I didn't think it would help or if I didn't think he was mature enough to read it. I think Carr is super-talented and I think he knows that.
Quote from: Voltimax on October 26, 2008, 07:53:04 AM
You know the one thing I dislike about this forum is that people will be patting you on the back one minute then kicking you in the arse the next.
Sorry if that offends you guys that are criticizing Carr, but I really don't care if I am. I'm sure I'm not the only one that knows Carr outside of this forum and I know he skins for himself, no one else.
So what if his skins look generic? All superhero/villain skins look generic. I mean let's face it there are thousands of them out there now. One thing I know about Carr's characters as does HQ etc is that it isn't just the costume design. Carr puts in a lot of character development and not just the character but the universe in which they exist.
I find it very amusing that the ones that are criticizing, primarily only skin other peoples characters.
Oh Volti,
there's the dramatic side I know and love to hate (:P). Looky, didn't we all ask for honest critiques back in my thread. Carra said it was ok to be honest with him. People are giving it to him. Carravaggio's a big boy and he'll deal with any issues he may have on his own. Don't have to stir the pot because you "think" he may be offended or people are jumping on his back. Let's not jump off on baseless assumptions and go into assault mode unless you actually know what the posters are actually saying/thinking. Cool the jets, bud, or you might go up in fiery flames of firedom! ^_^
As a side note...this "originals vs. mainstream" divide is kinda odd. Not only did this start a full two days after I saw a comment on a youtube video, but it keeps being brought up like it's some type of negative trait to skin something that's mainstream. What. Is. That. About.
Hey Voltimax,
I think that you need to check yourself man. Not a single person here has said anything to "slight" Carravagio; no one is "kicking" him in the arse! Carravagio is an outstanding artist. OUTSTANDING! All anybody did here was express an "opinion" about what could make the piece a little better. A "critique"...one that Carr could certainly take or leave at his discretion. We all post stuff for folks to give a little feedback...and I never say anything on this board that I don't mean. If I think somebodies work rocks I let 'em know...if I think it could be better I express my opinon in a constuctive way on how it could be improved. As I would expect anyone in this community to do the same with my skopes or drawings...I'm not vain enough to think that I always get it right...a fresh "set of eye's" can help a great deal...at least thats been my experience.
I generally don't comment much on anybody's skin thread, largely because my technical expertise is minimal, so I don't have much of a critique to offer. Such things have been said by myself and others.
I think both AA and Volti have valid points which, I think, do not mutually contradict one another. AA points out that Carr seems to have some generic elements to his skinning, and Volti point out that superhero design in general has generic elements. I would argue, based on looking over the range of Carr's work, that the "generic quality" to his work is a key element in his designmanship. Looking at his NPI pages, he seems to try and create designs that would "fit" within the design sensibilities of mainstream comics in a given era - for example, many of Carr's golden age designs at NPI seem to me as if they could have been characters from that period. I would liken Carr's work to the kind of thinking that Ross and Anderson put into Astro City. I think that Carr strikes a good balance between Originality and the evokation of superhero conventions. I have not seen a post thus far that would disagree with that. Could it be stretched? Only Carr can really answer that.
To Carr specifically. I think Spartan is a strong design. My major critique would be the mask-under-the-helmet element - it just seems odd to me. The bodysuit seems very post-Cockrum/Byrne-1980s, but the mask under the helmet seem very Golden Agey, so they don't fit well together in my mind. But that is, of course, my opinion. A possible remedy to it might be to skin the head as if it were mask designed to evoke a helmet.
I'll shut up now.
i think being able to hear the positives and the negatives can put out a better end result.i like the spartas character.i like his look.he wants to fit in with the rest of his super peers but still hold on to aspects of ancient times.the look of both eras."IF" i were to add anything maybe some metal wrist guantlets and boot and shin guards to match his helmet.great work my friend.by the way...hope everythings well with you.
Well guys I expressed an opinion and cas, I don't need to check myself.
I guess I just really objected to the way in which the critique was delivered more than anything else and the fact that others jumped on the 'band wagon'.
I have also sent a PM to Carr apologizing for jumping in on his thread. My outburst may have been too scathing.
I will say this however, I have listened to people bellyaching about this forum and I have also bellyached my fair share of it to them. I find it very hypocritical now that certain people are jumping on me for my opinions and you know who you are.
I won't post here again, because I don't want to turn Carrs thread into a battleground. If anyone should want to take it up with me, then feel free to PM me, but be warned I'm not the nice guy I used to be.
Quote from: herodad1 on October 26, 2008, 12:48:31 PM
i think being able to hear the positives and the negatives can put out a better end result.i like the spartas character.i like his look.he wants to fit in with the rest of his super peers but still hold on to aspects of ancient times.the look of both eras.
This may seem harsh but I'm sorry that comment read as you projecting your excuse for why Carr's design is good.
Quote from: Voltimax on October 26, 2008, 01:57:05 PM
I guess I just really objected to the way in which the critique was delivered more than anything else and the fact that others jumped on the 'band wagon'.
I think if someone agree with a statement it is not jumping on the bandwagon, it's agreeing. I think when more than one person feel the same way about a design that is a clear indication that there is a problem.
Quote from: Voltimax on October 26, 2008, 01:57:05 PM
I will say this however, I have listened to people bellyaching about this forum and I have also bellyached my fair share of it to them. I find it very hypocritical now that certain people are jumping on me for my opinions and you know who you are.
I think you need to look up the word hypocritical and it is obvious you are referring to me. Voltimax, if I have enough respect to quote your comments and reply, you should have enough respect to address me. Handled over pm, ignore.
Yeah, I think that is quite enough of that. Let's get back to the skins, and the commentary thereon.
I said I wouldn't post here again, but I feel I should.
I have spoken with several people via PM or yahoo. It would seem I have stepped out of line, something I've never done either as Voltimax or Shazam.
First off I want to apologize to AA for appearing to single him out, that wasn't my intention.
Secondly I'll apologize publicly to Carr for doing it in his thread, I have PM'd him to apologize personally.
Thirdly I'll apologize to Unkoman, who it may seem I accused of only skinning originals, we all of us know that isn't true.
Fourthly I'll apologize to anyone else I most likely offended. I have no excuses, or at least none to offer.
Anyway I've said my piece and I'm big enough to admit I'm wrong, now I'll be on me way.
Wow. Glad I missed that drama. My mama isn't even anywhere near me.
Anyhow, I just thought of the major thing bugging me about this costume... The black piece in the middle ending in a line there. It seems odd to me, especially when you have sharper elements (gloves, helmet) that would suggest it should also end in a point. Granted, maybe you don't want it to look like it's pointing at the crotch but really, I've seen that work. Well. I think that, and maybe some rimming or more detail on the helmet, would kick it up a bit. I might suggest some togaish elements too, or perhaps light armourment? But if you don't want to go that route then that is fine.
As to my calling them generic, I realize now it sounds like a harsher word than I intended it. I meant it more compairable to say... the Legion of Super Heroes. When I look at their costumes (depending on the run) and I look at somebody like say Thor, Thor sticks out a lot more (especially in his most recent outfit). The just sort of blend more into the super hero world. Hopefully I didn't sound like I was dissing you or anything. I think you're a fantastic skinner.
EDIT: Oh and no need to apologize to me Volt. Like Prev said, I don't get the "mainstream vs. originals" devide. I skin originals simply because I like to see my own characters and because better skinners than me have probably already skinned the mainstream characters. Even back when I did skin mainstream I tended to just stick to characters I hadn't seen skinned anywhere else, for the same reasons.
So....
How great is Fallout 3? All the changes to the game play doesn't detract from the immersive environments and the adherence to the lore of the universe. I'm loving it. People call me The Paladin, and they give me stuff to help me on my quest to clean up the wasteland and track down Liam Neeson in a Dick Grayson like need for fatherly acceptance.
Top stuff.
Now...if only someone could merge my two favourite genres/settings, Superheroes and Post Apocalyptia. I remember there used to be a huge PA resource site for FF years ago, with Necromunda ganger meshes and PA versions of people's avatars.
Well its sadly gone now...so I guess its up to me to get my PA/Superhero fix on.
"So the bomb is falling, the heroes followed the rules and didn't get too involved, and now its too late, prepare for that big green mushroom cloud baby. Its even worse than all those old sci fi films. There is rad sickness, horrific mutants and anarchistic raiders. There is murder and starvation and looting and fear...mostly fear. But it'll get better, and lemme tell ya why.
Being the hearty sort, not all the heroes and villains died, just like not all the humans died. They survived, somewhat changed, not often for the better, but in a world of giant, fire breathing mutant ants, I'll take any sort of post human protection I can find, even if he does glow green and render me sterile while he is saving my life. You know its him, the biggest and the best, when you see that green glow coming over the horizon. Lights up the whole sky he does. He ain't as pretty as he used to be, and he ain't one much for talking or kissing babies (thanks goodness, our kids already have three arms) but he is still fighting the good fight, and that makes this new world a heck of a lot more bearable than it would have been otherwise.
There is others, some of the bad guys too. So some loon in a giant robot comes to town to steal all our food, and a flying guy in a cape knocks him down and saves the day. People keep telling me the world has changed forever, but that just sounds like business as usual."
And some concept sketches:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/wasteland_2.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/wasteland_7.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/wasteland_6.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/wasteland_5.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/wasteland_1.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/wasteland_4.jpg)
There is a bunch more, but this was all I could colour before I have to go to the dentist. Enjoy, more to come later...if i can get away from Fallout 3 again.
Those are all very cool sketches. Couldn't even pick a favorite just now.
Fave of the concepts...Brain Empire...weird in a totally awesome way! :thumbup: I can see the skopes and skins for 'em already! Very cool stuff! :thumbup:
Good flavor lured me here :P
Well I hope the skins and skopes keep you here :)
:eek2: These are PHENOMENAL. I'm excited to play with them! :thumbup:
The Hammerer is a personal fav of mine but they are all great.
Wow! Those look awesome Car! I think that Rad Scorpion may be my favorite, but the aquatic character looks pretty awesome too. Well...they all look awesome.
Now these are some sweet designs. I like how a number of them are clearly recognizable heroes transported to your post apocalyptic world. Cool ideas. I really dig Fish Hook, but can't wait to see The Perfect Man skoped and skinned.
Wooot!! Rad Scorpion is awesomesaucum!
Thanks guys.
Skope for Green Sky:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Gsky_1.jpg)
More on the way.
Now THOSE are some very cool original characters to look forward to.
Awesome designs and sketches. Nuff said. :thumbup:
QuoteThere is a bunch more, but this was all I could colour before I have to go to the dentist. Enjoy, more to come later...if i can get away from Fallout 3 again.
I'm having the same problem too. It's such a grand game that it's keeping me from over two dozen different characters.
A remake of the Texas Ranger, since the old one was lost in a HDD crash
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/Clipboard01-11.jpg)
and another skope for the wasteland superheroes idea
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/fist-1.jpg)
I really dig this design for Texas Ranger...to bad there isn't a mesh with some cool cowboy boots to skope on him...then he'd be totally awesome. ;)
The guy with all the armor looks awesome, I've always been a fan of asymmetric designs.
:o wow! look great Carr.
keep us inform? :thumbup: :D
man that skin look awesome.
Some people call me the space cowboy, yeah
Some call me the gangster of love
Some people call me Maurice...
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d118/carravaggio/spacey.jpg)
So yeah...The Space Cowboy...bounty hunter, adventurer, cosmic gunslinger.
Some two hundred years ago alien visitors were conducting some routine cow abductions around the American midwest when, quite by accident, they managed to abduct a sleeping cowboy who was overseeing the herd. The aliens didn't discover their mistake until they were half way home, and turning back was out of the question, as they were already far behind schedule. Standard procedure was to simply vaporise the unwanted passenger, but before that could happen the alien craft was attacked by space pirates.
The cowboy was taken prisoner and sold at an intergalactic slave market. He eventually escaped and embarked on a series of thrilling adventures where he brough western justice to the lawless expanses of the galactic fringe.
Very cool! :thumbup:
Ohh! Very awesome!
Now that is a friggin' cool design. Can't wait to see some of the skins.