So, after a long time making my (*cough* pitiful *cough*) attempts at skinning, I finally decided to post one here for comments, since what inspired me in the first place is the awesome stuff that you guys are constantly releasing in these boards.
This is Jean Grey with her blue/gold outfit from the 90's, and I put a lot of effort into it. I don't know a lot, especially meshing and stuff, so it was basically a trial/error kind of thing until I figured it out, and this is the result.
[spoiler](http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n325/msquidward/jean.jpg)[/spoiler]
I'm currently working on other X-Girls, its probably gonna take a while to finish (Im kinda lazy right now) but as soon as I do, I'll post them here too. Hope you guys like it :)
HOLY CRAP :drool:
If that is what you call pitiful, I'd love to see what you think is good
That skin is good beyond words
OMG....
:drool: :drool: :drool:
*drowns in the combined drool from UE and herself and dies*
Fantastic first showing. This reminds me of Julie Bell's painting of Jean Grey.
That face is amazing! Very impressive for a first time.
:thumbup:
That great Marcelo.
I can't wait to see more from you. :thumbup:
DUDE! OMG!!!!!!!!! That's your first skin????????????? It's phenomenal!!!!!!!!!! Love the face!! Love it period! Great job! Let's see more!
Very, very nice.
Not a big X fan myself, but I appreciate good art, and thats what this is.
Like everyone else, I look forward to seeing more.
You, Marcelo, rock.
First of all you choose my favorite X character, then skin her absolutely beautifully. And that face..THAT FACE. She resembles Famke Janssen a bit, too, which I like.
I'd love to see more from you.
Thats beautifull, no words really. :o
Whoa... This has got to be the best first skin I have ever seen. :agentclap
I hope you'll be having fun making skins for a long time to come.
Very, very nice.
Holy s****! Wow, all I can say is THANK YOU, for all the positive comments and support. Really, you made my day. Makes me wanna go skinning some more like right now!!! :D
And Figure Fan, I did have Famke Janssen in mind, though I had to make it more cartoonish/FF-like in order to look good in game, so I'm glad that you picked up on that, means it wasn't all "lost in translation" and it still resembles her even if just a lil bit.
This is too cool. Thanks again, guys, you're all so awesome!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Holy Christmas! :huh: This is your first skin! :huh: I don't believe you...not at ALL! Fantastic job! :thumbup: :D First skin my butt! :P
great job, i'm really looking forward to see what you can do with rogue, jubilee or psylocke!
and nobody's commented on the hair yet, but i think thats really well done too, you made the part actually look like a hair part
What tommyboy said.
Quote from: marcelo on July 09, 2008, 07:28:42 PM
Makes me wanna go skinning some more like right now!!! :D
Ya...they can have that effect. ;)
Beutiful work marcelo! :cool:
A very nice first skin. Face is just excellent.
Omg! given you've got the whole board posting on your thread, I wouldn't say it's pitiful!!
AWESOMENESS
As everyone else has already said, this is a superb work, doubly so for being the first thing you've posted skinwise. Your attention to detail, colour choice and everything else are excellent. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we can't wait for more from you!
Very nice.
Beautifull :thumbup:
Very good job. :D
Those eye's! :blink: They are the bomb!
honestly, i didn't even read your post at first, just clicked the spoiler link, and the first words that came to mind were "holy **** that's good!" it seriously looks like you studied every inch of 90's jean.
That's amazing. :thumbup:
ITS CRAP, I HATE IT, ITS EPIC FAIL!
nah just kidding, in fact i like it! :thumbup:
2 thumbs up!
keep on skinning, ur gonna go huge! :cool:
Uh, i'm not one for cursing/swearing, aka fowl language, but when the shoe fits (In this case) i'd say
" Holy #*@&, like they said if that is crappy, i want to know whats good!" You should try your hand at some justice leagers, batman, wonderwoman, flash, heck maybe you could do some bruce timm styled skins, since the ones that had been in production are currently on hold.
Dude, that`s awesome!
Keep it coming!
If encouragement will cause you to skin more, then I join my voice in with the others. That facial work is absolutely fantastic. The colours look great. It's almost a perfect skin. I'd only add a bit of shadow between the headpeice and the face, to give more depth. Still miles beyond what I could do, though.
Dude!!! Where have ye been hiding all these times mate. Really great work!
Dude, that's amazing. I actually said this out loud upon seeing this, and I hardly ever do that. Kudos to you, my friend! Faces can really make the style, and yours takes the cake.
MARCELO It'S WONDERFUL!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! XD That face is O.o amazing!!!
Wow! That's an amazing looking Jean! You're very talented! Congrats!
Hey guys :)
Once again, thxs for all the compliments, I really appreciate it!
I have a question: I've received a couple messages asking me if I'm ever going to release this skin, and yeah, absolutely, I'd be happy to, she's all finished (since I posted the pic actually), she looks great in-game (I've played with her a lot myself) but, I don't know what the policy/rules are regarding this so I figured I'd ask first... Its been a long time since I did this, and I've moved on to other things.
I had a couple Polaris's almost good to go, and was starting to work on Psylocke and Storm....and then I started doing a Heroes-themed set of skins, I had Niki Sanders almost done (and damn, she was looking so good, I got Ali Larter down to the bone – but, I couldn't find "the perfect" heeled mesh/or skope heels myself onto the one I was working on, and I didn't want Niki/Jessica running around in flats. Call me crazy but it just didn't seem right lol), and was halfway there with Sylar, Claire and Peter... but I'm a little bit of a perfectionist freak (as you may have noticed) and I guess I just got frustrated with the mesh thing, I can't really do much other than skoping a few parts here and there...so I just got over the whole thing and I don't even have FF in my computer right now, but I do have this skin in backup somewhere, so...
Well, anyway, like I said, it's been a long time, but I remember, I used Ink's Jean Grey mesh for this skin. I skoped the glove parts (from an Ironman mesh, if I'm not mistaken...) and the skin is all mine (except for the shoulder plates and belt – I may have tweaked the colors a lil bit to match the rest but the texture's from Ink's original – it just went great with the rest, so I didn't want to touch'em).
That's pretty much it. One problem though, I don't have a yahoo group or site or anything to put the skin to be downloaded. I guess I could just send to one of you guys that have that space available (I wouldn't mind that at all) or we'll figure something else, suggestions are always appreciated...
That's all. Take care everyone and keep'on skinning :thumbup:
Why not just use www.mediafire.com (http://www.mediafire.com)? ;)
Or you could always just create a Yahoo site. Aren't Yahoo sites free? I haven't ever created one but I'm told they aren't difficult. Just a thought.
I for one am WAY stoked about seeing your great skins in game (I am especially intrigued with Polaris). Thanks in advance for sharing!
release skins is no problem all you if just include a readme giving credit to the mesh maker and the parts you skoped and such
the only thing i'd be worried about is that you said the belt and shoulder pads were not yours but the standards from the original skin. thats known as kittbashing on these boards, and it's not that popular in fact a lot of skinners has went out of there way to say they do not want or allow there work to be kittbashed
i'm not sure who did the standard for that mesh but looking at the amazing talent you have displayed i don't think it would be that hard for you to skin these parts yourself
on the subject of hosting, yahoo groups are easy to create but not that friendly(basically they suck) another option is that of creating a google page and allow for around 100mb of space plus layouts that can show your images off as well
i personally look forward to seeing what else you come up with
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on October 06, 2008, 06:12:30 AM
release skins is no problem all you if just include a readme giving credit to the mesh maker and the parts you skoped and such
the only thing i'd be worried about is that you said the belt and shoulder pads were not yours but the standards from the original skin. thats known as kittbashing on these boards, and it's not that popular in fact a lot of skinners has went out of there way to say they do not want or allow there work to be kittbashed
i'm not sure who did the standard for that mesh but looking at the amazing talent you have displayed i don't think it would be that hard for you to skin these parts yourself
I think most skinners of an original meshes do not have a problem with using the extras (at least this is mime as well as C6's stance). So I don't think he will have a problem with releasing it with the standard extras. But I would make sure to include the readme who the original skinner was.
The original skin is once more a "c6 standard skin".
That skin is incredible, i've never seen any first skins that good.
keep up the insanely good work!
Quote from: qazwsx on October 06, 2008, 07:56:17 AM
The original skin is once more a "c6 standard skin".
While the female_basic file is considered off limits for kitbashing by C6, the extras are usually not. Once again include him (or anyone else who did the extras) in the readme and to be even safer PM him for permission.
Cool. I'm on it (just wanna get this over with already lol). What about the keyframes, should I include them in the zip file or just indicate in the readme which kfs works best...? Personally, I used ItalPornstar's Jean Grey Keyframes, i found them to be just perfect for this.
If you're not using modified keyframes of a hexed or skoped mesh, I'd just link where you found the mesh/kfs in your readme. That's what I do.
Thanks, guys!
I'm waiting to hear on C6 and if it all goes well I should be posting the release soon:)
Now, not that it matters anymore (since I'm no longer doing skins), but just for kicks, this is the version of Polaris - X-Factor Underground I had been working on...and to think she was almost good to go, but I couldn't skope the bodyarmor :( Here's the face (still needed to work/retouch a couple things) but basically this is more or less what she was going to end up like:
(http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n325/msquidward/polarisund.jpg)
you faces are fantastic, how do you do them are they photoskinned
yeah, your work is truly one of a kind among here, looks more like what people do for morrowind or oblivion. try accusing this of having been kitbashed! and what's more you seem to have the gift. yes the gift. you see with most people, even people with the highest calibre skins, most of their female faces tend to end up looking very similar, and it doesn't help that face mesh geometry is generally identical. I mean I can't believe it but this is the same mesh as jean is it not? kudos
Quote from: marcelo on October 06, 2008, 02:23:00 PM
(http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n325/msquidward/polarisund.jpg)
:eek2: You are truly an artist! Amazing work! :cool:
This has the same face as Jean no? sorry maybe wrong here ;).
Same body mesh as Jean's, yes. But like I said it wasn't finished, I'd still tweak a lil more here and there to make them like, really unique; it just, it never came to that. The face geometry does pose somewhat of a problem, but you can work around that, and the little details make all the difference in the end. In Jean's case actually, I had an updated version, IMO much better than this one here, but unfortunately I don't have any of it on backup. I was lucky I had this Jean Grey saved somewhere...
Quote from: marcelo on October 06, 2008, 02:23:00 PM
Thanks, guys!
I'm waiting to hear on C6 and if it all goes well I should be posting the release soon:)
Now, not that it matters anymore (since I'm no longer doing skins), but just for kicks, this is the version of Polaris - X-Factor Underground I had been working on...and to think she was almost good to go, but I couldn't skope the bodyarmor :( Here's the face (still needed to work/retouch a couple things) but basically this is more or less what she was going to end up like:
(http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n325/msquidward/polarisund.jpg)
WAHHH!!!! O.o Marcelo!! it's incredible!!!!
OMG! It`s gorgeous!
Quote from: qazwsx on October 06, 2008, 08:54:52 PM
try accusing this of having been kitbashed!
i wasn't accusing anyone, i explained something that is a basic rule of the forum to a new artist, i offered help to someone who i want to see grow in this community as much as the rest. the artist in question did not take offence so why should you
now i'm not starting anything but please do not throw around posts like that
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on October 07, 2008, 02:39:17 PM
Quote from: qazwsx on October 06, 2008, 08:54:52 PM
try accusing this of having been kitbashed!
i wasn't accusing anyone, i explained something that is a basic rule of the forum to a new artist, i offered help to someone who i want to see grow in this community as much as the rest. the artist in question did not take offence so why should you
now i'm not starting anything but please do not throw around posts like that
My statement was in no way a reply to your post, I was merely emphasizing the uniqueness of his work by saying it's "unaccusable" if you will. Today seems to be Misunderstanding Day :)
None taken, absolutely. I asked for advice, which you gave me and I appreciate that enormously. :thumbup: For what is worth, I don't think qazwsx meant it that way, really. It was just a compliment to me, and I appreciate that, too. Just a misunderstanding, guys! Let's go to our happy places:)
As far as kitbashing goes, I don't ever want to put myself in that position so that's why I'm asking. This is all very new to me so I want everything to run very proper and smoothly, as it should and hopefully will:)
:eek2: Holy freakin' crud!!!! That's amazing face work!!!!!!! Well done, my friend!
Wow! Polaris looks really good. You really have a good grasp on tonality, and it brings the faces to life.
What style of skinning ar eye using? More or less is this via colour picking and working up from there or are ye using the dodge and burn tools for the facial work?
Quote from: Deaths Jester on October 11, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
What style of skinning ar eye using? More or less is this via colour picking and working up from there or are ye using the dodge and burn tools for the facial work?
Hmm..both, I guess. You get the shadows right, and the midtone/highlights tool is also very helpful to give that sort of dimension.. I don't know, I start doing it and it's all goes sort of intuitively from there I think, i wouldn't know how to give like a step-by-step, it varies..
Quote from: marcelo on October 11, 2008, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: Deaths Jester on October 11, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
What style of skinning ar eye using? More or less is this via colour picking and working up from there or are ye using the dodge and burn tools for the facial work?
Hmm..both, I guess. You get the shadows right, and the midtone/highlights tool is also very helpful to give that sort of dimension.. I don't know, I start doing it and it's all goes sort of intuitively from there I think, i wouldn't know how to give like a step-by-step, it varies..
That's cool. I was just wondering so in case in the future I wanted to give a few tips I'd be able to work it into ye style of doing stuff. I work both ways as well, but lately I've been working towards doing nothing but the colour only...avoiding using the burn/dodge toolage (instead workign with a lighter colour over the original as the higlight and then shaping them together from there).