http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pPa9CgVqPw

Elmo vs Vegeta. Elmo lands a Canadian Destroyer. Yah.

sadly that was the best wrestling match ive seen in a while

Just wondering if anyone here collects wrestling masks or just has any?

I bought a commercial quality (ie, fan support) green Jushin Liger mask off eBay a few months back, and plan to buy a few more masks eventually. (I really want a La Parka and an Ultimo Dragon - maybe a Dr. Wagner Jr, as well)

Greetings! WWE fans! Just curious to as who do you think can beat the Great Khali for the WWE World Heavy Weight Championship? Who do you want to see the Great Khali fight next? :cool:
For me, I would probably like to see Mark Henry fight the Great Khali and see who would win the match. ^_^ But...that could take a while since i believe Mark Henry is on smackdown right now. :P

Both Khali and Henry are one Smackdown, so that shouldn't be a problem. I think Rey should be the one.

Ooh, check the spoilers for smackdown all. I am the winner.

The WWE has apparently suspended 10 wrestlers for violating the wellness policy. They've said that its been their policy not to name names but as of November 1st, anyone violating the policy WILL be named. Of the 10 suspended, its a first time suspension for 9 of them (30 days), second time for 1 (60 days). The suspensions are without pay.

I hope Randy Orton is one of them.....

Here's an interesting article listing what drugs some WWE have been caught using in the past:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/08/30/wrestlers/index.html

it's actually 14, and they were named on ESPN.
Edge, Orton, Haas, Helms, Kennedy, Supernova, Santino, Batista, Chavo, John Morrison, King Booker, Funaki, Masters and Will Regal.

The name that caught me off guard was Batista. I mean, how could you even think he was using anything? Look at that guys body. Does that look like the body of someone using muscle enhancements?

Seriously, a lot of the meds are pain releivers. Soma helps the pain. These guys get hurt. Are they not supposed to take anything? They have to be careful with the soma and drinking though. It becomes a poison. I believe that's how Louie Spiccolli died.

Wow wow wow! Nova, gone. Eugene, gone. Cryme Tyme, gone. Umaga will probably lose tommorrow night vs Hardy and Morrisson finally lost the belt. Big, weekend for us.

I'm not surprised Bucci is gone - they obviously didn't want the man who invented every wrestling move there is around anymore -  :P - but Eugene and Cryme Tyme being released does surprise me.

Frankly, I'm glad Eugene is gone, because it means that Nick Dinsmore can go somewhere else and wrestle without the mentally handicapped gimmick and that the WWE can potentially bring him back without at it some point (`Hi! I'm Eugene's normal twin brother Nick who he and Uncle Eric never bothered to mention!').

Cryme Tyme was apparently released because of something that happened at a house show, but I don't know the full details. I'm shocked, and not too thrilled, that Cryme Tyme are gone, because I had them pegged as future tag champions and Shad shows potential to be a fairly good singles wrestler some day.

nick dinsmore was the one who came up with the whole mentally handicapped idea and pitched it to vince. so i dont think he'll drop it

Why is Chuck Palumbo using Biker Takers old gimmick?

Quote from: thanoson on September 03, 2007, 09:40:31 AM
Why is Chuck Palumbo using Biker Takers old gimmick?

supposedly because Palumbo is a bike enthusiast in real life

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on September 03, 2007, 07:29:44 AM
nick dinsmore was the one who came up with the whole mentally handicapped idea and pitched it to vince. so i dont think he'll drop it

I hated Eugene because of the whole mentally handicapped thing.  I'm glad he's gone...It's a mockery.

The results of the examination of Benoit's brain were revealed; he had severe brain damage due to all the concussions and whatnot he had suffered during his career. He was 40, but they said his brain resembled that of an 85 year old man with Alzheimer's.

They've released the roster for Raw vs. Smackdown 2008, and there are quite a few surprises and disappointments. As expected, Benoit isn't in the game. I'm putting the rest of my roster comments in a spoiler tag, and I'm only giving my opinions, not listing the full roster.

[spoiler]No RVD, but Sabu is in the game!  :)

Kelly Kelly and Maria are in, but Kelly Kelly is playable why Maria is not. Makes absolutely no sense because Maria has actually had matches, why Kelly Kelly is just a frickin' stripper.

Yo Yo Yo! Grab your 40s and check your Rollies! Its Cryme Tyme! (I hope they get re-signed fast, like Boogeyman was when was released)

No Cade and Murdoch, Paul London, Brian Kendrick, Charlie Haas or Shelton Benjamin.

Despite not being used much, Marcus Cor Von is in, yet Kevin Thorn is not and he's been on just about every episode of ECW. Kenny Dykstra is in, despite not being on tv much at all since the Spirit Squad was disbanded and his feud with Flair ended.

Weakest women's roster in a while. Should have left Jillian Hall in and put Victoria back in, but they didn't.

The Legends list kinda sucks:

Bret Hart
Mick Foley
Rick Rude
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Rock
Terry Funk

Doesn't look like Tazz or Jerry Lawler will playable again, so far.

Personally, I'm disappointed that Kevin Thorn isn't in and would have preferred it if they had removed Torrie Wilson and put Victoria back in.

Next year, I am hoping for Kevin Thorn, Beth Phoenix, Victoria, Jimmy Wang Yang, and Trish Stratus (as a Legend) in the 2009 edition.

The Nintendo DS is getting Hardcore Holly as an exclusive wrestler (meaning I feel sorry for DS owners), while the PSP is getting Eddie Guerrero, Sgt. Slaughter and Jim Neidhart as exclusives. They're talking about having extra, downloadable wrestlers for the next-gen systems, but so far I believe its just a rumor over at IGN so far.[/spoiler]

Quote from: thalaw2 on September 06, 2007, 05:21:30 PM

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on September 03, 2007, 07:29:44 AM
nick dinsmore was the one who came up with the whole mentally handicapped idea and pitched it to vince. so i dont think he'll drop it

I hated Eugene because of the whole mentally handicapped thing.  I'm glad he's gone...It's a mockery.

Ditto.

I really want to see some downloadable wrestlers on the next gen systems!

Question: Is the Great Khali actually trying to get out of his contract? I ask because of the end of tonight's broadcast with that Claw. If he had applied full pressure, he could have killed Rey.

Quote from: GhostMachine on September 06, 2007, 05:43:06 PM
The results of the examination of Benoit's brain were revealed; he had severe brain damage due to all the concussions and whatnot he had suffered during his career. He was 40, but they said his brain resembled that of an 85 year old man with Alzheimer's.

Wow!  :blink: Didn't knew that one. Most of the rumors i've heard around here is that it was the result of a drug abuse, that Benoit lost it. :(

Quote from: GhostMachine on September 06, 2007, 05:43:06 PM
They've released the roster for Raw vs. Smackdown 2008, and there are quite a few surprises and disappointments. As expected, Benoit isn't in the game. I'm putting the rest of my roster comments in a spoiler tag, and I'm only giving my opinions, not listing the full roster.

[spoiler]No RVD, but Sabu is in the game!  :)

Kelly Kelly and Maria are in, but Kelly Kelly is playable why Maria is not. Makes absolutely no sense because Maria has actually had matches, why Kelly Kelly is just a frickin' stripper.

Yo Yo Yo! Grab your 40s and check your Rollies! Its Cryme Tyme! (I hope they get re-signed fast, like Boogeyman was when was released)

No Cade and Murdoch, Paul London, Brian Kendrick, Charlie Haas or Shelton Benjamin.

Despite not being used much, Marcus Cor Von is in, yet Kevin Thorn is not and he's been on just about every episode of ECW. Kenny Dykstra is in, despite not being on tv much at all since the Spirit Squad was disbanded and his feud with Flair ended.

Weakest women's roster in a while. Should have left Jillian Hall in and put Victoria back in, but they didn't.

The Legends list kinda sucks:

Bret Hart
Mick Foley
Rick Rude
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Rock
Terry Funk

Doesn't look like Tazz or Jerry Lawler will playable again, so far.

Personally, I'm disappointed that Kevin Thorn isn't in and would have preferred it if they had removed Torrie Wilson and put Victoria back in.

Next year, I am hoping for Kevin Thorn, Beth Phoenix, Victoria, Jimmy Wang Yang, and Trish Stratus (as a Legend) in the 2009 edition.

The Nintendo DS is getting Hardcore Holly as an exclusive wrestler (meaning I feel sorry for DS owners), while the PSP is getting Eddie Guerrero, Sgt. Slaughter and Jim Neidhart as exclusives. They're talking about having extra, downloadable wrestlers for the next-gen systems, but so far I believe its just a rumor over at IGN so far.[/spoiler]

Hope 2008 is better than 2007. I mean the graphics were cool and everything.But I had a little bit of a hard time adjusting to the new controls though. And the slow loading time was a drag.

Quote from: Sword on September 07, 2007, 08:21:55 PM
Question: Is the Great Khali actually trying to get out of his contract? I ask because of the end of tonight's broadcast with that Claw. If he had applied full pressure, he could have killed Rey.

Really a mismatch from the start. I wanna see him do that to Mark Henry though. :P That is, if he can. :)

Quote from: thanoson on September 03, 2007, 09:40:31 AM
Why is Chuck Palumbo using Biker Takers old gimmick?

I was surprised with his new look too. ^_^ Thought it was some new guy at first. Well, it looks good on him though. I think he has more confidence too. A fresh new start for Samson! (of Samson and Delilah myth)  ^_^

Quote from: thalaw2 on September 06, 2007, 05:21:30 PM

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on September 03, 2007, 07:29:44 AM
nick dinsmore was the one who came up with the whole mentally handicapped idea and pitched it to vince. so i dont think he'll drop it

I hated Eugene because of the whole mentally handicapped thing.  I'm glad he's gone...It's a mockery.

Well, Eugene's game has not been that good lately. I also think the mentally handicapped gimmik has sort of lost its appeal with the WWE audience. :wacko:

Hasn't been confirmed, but its rumored that the reason Eugene is gone is because Dinsmore is apparently the first wrestler to fail THREE drug tests under the wellness policy.

Keep in mind that hasn't been confirmed and is JUST a rumor as far as I know.

Quote from: GhostMachine on September 06, 2007, 05:43:06 PM
The results of the examination of Benoit's brain were revealed; he had severe brain damage due to all the concussions and whatnot he had suffered during his career. He was 40, but they said his brain resembled that of an 85 year old man with Alzheimer's.

Just a mini-rant on how the results of that alleged study are being reported in the media:

I'm quite dubious of the implications being suggested by the Institute that did the examination, that somehow, Benoit's multiple concussions were a significant enough factor in the grisly murder-suicide involving his family (that said, I haven't read the actual report or seen the scans, only the media reports). Sure, it's a commonly-known fact that brain trauma can and does result in altered executive and cognitive functioning leading to pronounced changes in personality, mood, outlook, and even dementia, but it seems like the emphasis is being placed squarely on the brain trauma as the triggering factor for the crime (at least from how the media has reported the results). What you don't see being reported is the much larger number of athletes (football players, boxers, full-contact martial artists, rugby players, and yes, wrestlers) who do suffer from multiple concussions and never exhibit any signs of psychosis or heretofore-unrevealed homicidal intent. The fact that Benoit's family commissioned the study makes me more leery of the results of the study, it seems as much an attempt to clear Benoit of any culpability in the crime as it is to conduct a thorough scientific investigation.

Can multiple concussions lead to permanent brain damage that alters a person's psychological functioning? Of course, no question. What I'm questioning is the examiner's (irresponsible) assertion that the damage was such that it contributed to Benoit's criminal behaviour (the link between the two is circumstantial at best), and making the careless comparison to Alzheimer's disease sufferers (on the basis of the finding of amyloid plaques in Benoit's brain) whilst juxtaposing it with the crime is just another example of bad science (or maybe bad science press reporting). It paints a picture that people suffering from dementia, whether, trauma-induced or Alzheimer's induced are at higher risk for violent crime when it's clearly not the case.

Rant over. We now return you to your regular, wrestling-oriented programming.  :lol:

just throwing this out, a lot of media and news sites are ignoring this but what was benoit's two signature moves. the cross face and dun dun duh the diving headbutt. not saying thats the cause or that its correct what the media is saying just throwing it out.

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on September 09, 2007, 12:32:37 PM
just throwing this out, a lot of media and news sites are ignoring this but what was benoit's two signature moves. the cross face and dun dun duh the diving headbutt. not saying thats the cause or that its correct what the media is saying just throwing it out.

Oh, the diving headbutt is the first thing I thought of when I saw the results.

Regarding Zuludelta's comments, no one in their right mind is using the brain damage to excuse Benoit for what he did, by the way, and its most likely its not the only reason he did what he did but is a contributing factor to it.

Ok, this is all assuming Benoit actually connected with the headbutt, which I doubt because he never did.

Quote from: zuludelta on September 08, 2007, 02:30:26 PM

Quote from: GhostMachine on September 06, 2007, 05:43:06 PM
The results of the examination of Benoit's brain were revealed; he had severe brain damage due to all the concussions and whatnot he had suffered during his career. He was 40, but they said his brain resembled that of an 85 year old man with Alzheimer's.

Just a mini-rant on how the results of that alleged study are being reported in the media:

I'm quite dubious of the implications being suggested by the Institute that did the examination, that somehow, Benoit's multiple concussions were a significant enough factor in the grisly murder-suicide involving his family (that said, I haven't read the actual report or seen the scans, only the media reports). Sure, it's a commonly-known fact that brain trauma can and does result in altered executive and cognitive functioning leading to pronounced changes in personality, mood, outlook, and even dementia, but it seems like the emphasis is being placed squarely on the brain trauma as the triggering factor for the crime (at least from how the media has reported the results). What you don't see being reported is the much larger number of athletes (football players, boxers, full-contact martial artists, rugby players, and yes, wrestlers) who do suffer from multiple concussions and never exhibit any signs of psychosis or heretofore-unrevealed homicidal intent. The fact that Benoit's family commissioned the study makes me more leery of the results of the study, it seems as much an attempt to clear Benoit of any culpability in the crime as it is to conduct a thorough scientific investigation.

Can multiple concussions lead to permanent brain damage that alters a person's psychological functioning? Of course, no question. What I'm questioning is the examiner's (irresponsible) assertion that the damage was such that it contributed to Benoit's criminal behaviour (the link between the two is circumstantial at best), and making the careless comparison to Alzheimer's disease sufferers (on the basis of the finding of amyloid plaques in Benoit's brain) whilst juxtaposing it with the crime is just another example of bad science (or maybe bad science press reporting). It paints a picture that people suffering from dementia, whether, trauma-induced or Alzheimer's induced are at higher risk for violent crime when it's clearly not the case.

Rant over. We now return you to your regular, wrestling-oriented programming.  :lol:

It may be circumstantial, but with the lack of a suicide note, and the fact drugs have basically been ruled out, as has the idiotic idea of "roid rage", the extent of his head trauma is now the best evidence they have. I read an article that mentioned the 2 NFL players that committed suicide over the past few years had not suffered from the amount of trauma in their autopsies that Benoit had. Chris Nowinski has basically dedicated his life to the effects of multiple concussions, and alot of the evidence he has dug up has pointed to the fact a person with an outrageous amount of concussions, we're talking 10+, can end up doing things like self harm and even homicide.

It may not be much, but right now it's the best they have.

Getting really fed up with the WWE. The reveal of who Vince's illegitimate son is was stupid, and now they've released Sandman.

TNA is bringing in yet another former WWE wrestler who won't draw. I don't think anyone will be too upset if I don't put it in spoilers. Its Rikishi, and he's going to be called "Junior Fatu".  :thumbdown:

Yeah, Fatu rocks. :thumbdown: Goldberg is mad because they didnt pick him but picked Pacman instead, which was lame as all can be. Though, I'm happy Goldberg is not on my tv. That guy stinks.

Goldberg doesn't stink. He was quite good on the series about cars on the History Channel and as the host of Bullrun. :P

TNA has several wrestlers lamer than Goldberg. Like Robert Roode, Tomko, and Kip James, for example.

I'd list WWE wrestlers lamer than Goldberg, but I don't feel listing half their roster, thank you very much.

On the one hand, I wouldn't mind seeing Goldberg vs. Kurt Angle or Goldberg vs. Abyss, which would be good matches. But on the other hand, Samoa Joe has been jobbing to Angle enough as it is; he doesn't need to be jobbing to Goldberg, too.

The only thing TNA really has going for it at the moment is a lack of Jeff Jarrett sucking up screen time and going over people who should rightfully be pinning him or making him tap out.

Sadly though, all 3 of the wrestlers you mentioned could wrestle rings around Goldberg. Even Jarret. Intensity is not everything to a character. His moveset never changed from the 4 moves of doom; clothesline, spear, Jackhammer stomp. Every match was the same. I'm gonna let you beat me down for a bit, I start no selling, spear and Jackhammer for the pin. Never any change. Now, it would be cool to see Christian figure out ways to beat him over and over again.

hornswoggle, what in the blue blazes