Normally, I'd like that theory, but they stated in the past episode that

[spoiler]the dangerous strain already exists, developed by the Company.[/spoiler]

Also, the ad for next week's episode states that two heroes will die.

[spoiler]well i wonder if Mohinder counts as a Hero, id recon it was Niki and Mohinder...maybe Elle.[/spoiler]

I'm thinking Hiro dies next episode along with Peter.  And Adam will probably be locked up again or killed as well (if that's possible).

So far, Sylar has added little to plot except kill off Betty (Candice) and distract Mohinder from getting the cure to Niki (which may result in her death as well).

By the way, where was Matt?  Shouldn't have been home to put a bullet through Sylar's head?

QuoteI'm thinking Hiro dies next episode along with Peter.

Don't make me cry!

I'd say Niki could die, maybe Parkman or Suresh, possibly Molly. Hiro and Peter are the main protagonists! At least, Peter WAS but suddenly turned into a stupid. He's still insanely handsome.

Hmm.. actually, I'm thinking Peter is starting to look more like Sylar.

QuoteBy the way, where was Matt?  Shouldn't have been home to put a bullet through Sylar's head?

If you recall from last episode, he's tracking down the woman Adam just killed.  He'll likely arrive just after they leave.

[spoiler]Oh crap Sylar's back. Couple of potential deaths too.[/spoiler]

Some quick thoughts before going to work.

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Nathan's death made sense given the circumstances.  You'd think, as a matter of fact, that Matt and Peter would have thought of this and brain-scanned the onlookers.  But then again, maybe they wouldn't have.  I mean, they aren't top-secret agents or anything, but they do know the Company.

Some nifty moments and Adam's fate is sort of fun.  Imagine being trapped like that for years, unable to die.  Of course, he could always come back.
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Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on December 03, 2007, 07:08:01 PM
Some quick thoughts before going to work.

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Nathan's death made sense given the circumstances.  You'd think, as a matter of fact, that Matt and Peter would have thought of this and brain-scanned the onlookers.  But then again, maybe they wouldn't have.  I mean, they aren't top-secret agents or anything, but they do know the Company.

Some nifty moments and Adam's fate is sort of fun.  Imagine being trapped like that for years, unable to die.  Of course, he could always come back.
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[spoiler]Couldn't he just teleport out?

I'm glad Maya is still alive. She's a good actress. It's just too bad she wasn't better in X3..[/spoiler]

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Adam can't teleport, so he's stuck for the duration - or at least until he can dig through a casket, concrete grave cap and six feet of dirt.  Or I suppose he'd run out of air, suffocate, regenerate, suffocate and repeat as necessary.  That's some painful revenge on Hiro's part.

Nathan getting snipered caught me a little off-guard, but it does make sense.  Man, Mrs. Petrelli is one cold lady though. 

Claire's blood healing dead people needs to get nipped in the bud though - it has the potential to be seriously story-breaking.

Niki exploding also suprised me somewhat - I thought the virus might finish her off, but an explosion has a lot of finality.

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Quote from: Figure Fan on December 03, 2007, 07:11:45 PM
Couldn't he just teleport out?

Who do you mean?  Adam can't teleport, only regenerate.  I thought what happened to him was cool.  I imagine that eventually he'll run out of air and at least fall unconscious, but who knows.

Other parts I liked:

Matt and Nathan flying in and "let's never talk about this again."

All the reunions.  It's great to see Nathan interact with Hiro and Peter again.  Hiro and Kensei's interaction was really interesting after what had happened between them.

Niki's storyline, while tangential, was pretty cool.  Her death was at least heroic.

The promos said that 2 heroes would die.  That means either a) they don't consider Adam a hero, b) they don't consider his fate dying, or c) one of them didn't really die.  If it's the latter, I would guess Nathan (just look at Matt and DL's survival of the last season finale), but a and b are definite possibilities.  Or the promo guys may have just messed up.
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Conduit:

[spoiler]Nathan and Nikki. Adam isn't dead, just.....imprisoned, for lack of a better word. Hiro's revenge is more chilling than killing Adam (if possible), but it also leaves it open to bring him back at some point.[/spoiler]

What I didn't like about the episode:

[spoiler]Maya is still alive. I applauded when Sylar shot her, then groaned when he got Mohinder to give her the blood. I don't see her being of any use whatsoever, unless they have her, not Peter (or possibly working with Peter) be the one to finally take him down for good. And frankly, if that's why, I hope she's either killed off or otherwise written out of the show.

I like Ali Larter, but was tired of Nikki; She's pretty much the only reason I watched Final Destination 2.

So HRG is back with the Company? Makes no sense, unless they have it backfire on them. (ie, HRG figures out a way to take them down while working for them) I hope they don't pull some bs and have it be him who shot Nathan....

Speaking of which, when I realized Nikki was the only one killed off and the promo said two Heroes would die, I knew it was going to be Nathan when they started the press conference.

If Mohinder continues to be an idiot and Sylar doesn't get taken care of next season, I may not watch a 4th season. Sylar is getting tiresome. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Don't you just love how Sylar "got away" when Molly was sitting right there and they had two people who could have easily taken him down without too much trouble?  Talk about stupid plot points.  Maybe they can get new writers for volume 3 who have more common sense.

Even though Sylar is "back," he may not be the biggest player out there now.  Besides Peter, there's Maya, Elle, and possibly Matt Parkman who could take him down even with his full power.  And let's not forget the Haitian.  Also, a normal person could just hit him with a flash/noise grenade and riddle his body with bullets.

Maybe I should apply as a writer for the show....[/spoiler]

This is a reminder to keep the negativity down in this thread.  If you want to post complaints about this season, do so in the other thread.  That's why it's there.

[spoiler]Ok, did Syler get the ability to heal while I wasn't looking or something? or was it just an illusion which he cast on himself?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Claire's blood doesn't just heal the virus, it heals all wounds the person injected with it had at the time of injection.[/spoiler]

Quote from: Tomato on December 04, 2007, 03:56:33 PM
[spoiler]Claire's blood doesn't just heal the virus, it heals all wounds the person injected with it had at the time of injection.[/spoiler]

*Smack head* I figured it out just as you posted.

:doh:

I finally got around to watching the episode (a bit later than I would have liked...but what can ya do?)  I thought it was really good, I definitely enjoyed it, but am left with a few thoughts:

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I don't really see Nathan as being likely to stay dead.  It seems to me that Peter, knowing that Adam's blood could cure something like that, might try giving Nathan some of his own blood.  We know Claire and Adam have regenerative power, but maybe that's because their power is really the ability to create blood that can heal.  If that's the case, then Peter would also be able to do that, and a simple blood transfusion could bring him back. 

I'm really glad Sylar is back to "normal."  I've noticed a lot of Sylar-hate in general, and I must admit that I really like him, he has the definite potential to be an incredible villain and it would be a shame if they offed him and ended up making the show a 'villain of the season' type show where they just plop some new bad guy in every season and he's just slightly stronger and more evil than the last.  I feel that every hero or group of heroes needs to have some identifiable main villain that you can always count on to be there ready to do their villainy.  You wouldn't want the X-Men without Magneto, or Batman without the Joker- sure there can be other villains, but you want to know there's always that one guy there...waiting.

That said, on a related note, it's nice to know they didn't kill Adam.  With Sylar's love of power, I'm sure he'll be after regeneration even more than he was before.  If he finds out about Adam and what Adam can do, maybe he'll track'im down and dig'em up, thus releasing him for another round of revenge.  And another exciting thought, if it ever happens...maybe they'll team up? 

I'm also thrilled they didn't kill Elle.  When she decided to go after Sylar, I just kept saying to myself "Don't kill her off, don't kill her off."  And it's nice to know they didn't.  There is so much more that can be done with her character that I'd hate it if they had killed her off.

Oh, and one other thing.  Everyone keeps saying that a bullet in the brain'll kill someone like Adam or Peter.  How do they know?  Pure speculation?  Did they just watch a Highlander marathon and figure a bullet's almost as good as lopping it off?  Not that it really matters, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if that was in fact _not_ good enough to kill them.  I mean, unless someone's done it before, they really can't know for sure- at best they could hope for something like what happened to Peter, and have the bullet remain lodged, and they'd only heal if it was removed. 
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I guess that's about it for now.

Quote from: Adamence on December 04, 2007, 11:43:11 PM


I'm really glad Sylar is back to "normal."  I've noticed a lot of Sylar-hate in general, and I must admit that I really like him, he has the definite potential to be an incredible villain and it would be a shame if they offed him and ended up making the show a 'villain of the season' type show where they just plop some new bad guy in every season and he's just slightly stronger and more evil than the last.  I feel that every hero or group of heroes needs to have some identifiable main villain that you can always count on to be there ready to do their villainy.  You wouldn't want the X-Men without Magneto, or Batman without the Joker- sure there can be other villains, but you want to know there's always that one guy there...waiting.

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But you wouldn't want Magneto to be the X-Men's ONLY villain, nor the Joker Batman's.  I don't mind Sylar recurring for a storyarc every couple of years, but making him a regular is too much. He needs to go away for a long time.
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Here's an interesting theory:

What if the virus wasn't the only thing they put in Sylar in the first place?  What if they also implanted a bomb of some kind at the base of his skull and Bob is always carrying around the trigger?  What if the next season starts out with Sylar trying to take revenge on the Company for what they did and just about when he is going to kill Bob, Bob pulls out a remote and presses the button, killing him?

The thing is, the villains don't have to be uber-powered like Peter (who does a terrible job as a uber-hero) or Sylar, just incredibly resourceful.  Bob's power is benign (at best he might be able to transmute people into stone or something) but he is very resourceful and manipulative, almost as manipulative as Angela or Adam.  With his resources and power, he could easily become the next big villain.

Anyway, that's my two cents.  I thought that Sylar's character had run his course in the first season and that unless he becomes more of an anti-hero, he wasn't worth keeping.

Another storyline could feature Sylar getting regeneration from some previously unknown hero and then teaming up with Adam.  That would make for an interesting villain pair.

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Quote from: bredon7777 on December 05, 2007, 03:49:20 AM

Quote from: Adamence on December 04, 2007, 11:43:11 PM
I'm really glad Sylar is back to "normal."  I've noticed a lot of Sylar-hate in general, and I must admit that I really like him, he has the definite potential to be an incredible villain and it would be a shame if they offed him and ended up making the show a 'villain of the season' type show where they just plop some new bad guy in every season and he's just slightly stronger and more evil than the last.  I feel that every hero or group of heroes needs to have some identifiable main villain that you can always count on to be there ready to do their villainy.  You wouldn't want the X-Men without Magneto, or Batman without the Joker- sure there can be other villains, but you want to know there's always that one guy there...waiting.

But you wouldn't want Magneto to be the X-Men's ONLY villain, nor the Joker Batman's.  I don't mind Sylar recurring for a storyarc every couple of years, but making him a regular is too much. He needs to go away for a long time.

I never said I wanted Sylar to be their only villain, in fact, in my quote I clear say their can be others.  I just wouldn't hate it if the show became a constant revolving door of bad guys.  Give the heroes some enemy who can be there throughout, even if it isn't always a big role, because getting a new enemy every season would get kind of tedious at some point.  They'd have to introduce the character, give them some motivation, spend a few episodes building them up, etc.  I just feel it might start to take away from the show if they do that repeatedly.
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I'd like to see them introduce a character whose power is that they're immune to powers: Parkman can't read their mind or influence them, they'd see Claude if he was invisible, wouldn't be frozen if Hiro stopped time in their presence (but as a drawback, can't be "teleported" or transported through time by him, either), and would laugh off attacks by Elle or by Sylar using the telekinesis on him or her directly.

They'd be Sylar's worst nightmare; he'd be pretty much powerless vs. them (other than hurling things at them using tk), and if he stole their power it would probably de-power him!

The Haitian's pretty close to that.  He suppresses almost all powers in his presence (passive powers may be an exception), though he can apparently choose to not interfere with certain people.

Speaking of the Haitian, what the heck happened to him?  After HRG's trip to Ukraine, he just fell off the face of the Earth.

Since Peter can reverse The Haitian's  power does that mean Peter can now shut off people's powers?  Why doesn't the Haitian have a name?  I guess it's habit for him to disappear at the end of the season.  I would too...people die during season enders.

Quote from: thalaw2 on December 05, 2007, 09:35:08 PM
Since Peter can reverse The Haitian's  power does that mean Peter can now shut off people's powers?  Why doesn't the Haitian have a name?  I guess it's habit for him to disappear at the end of the season.  I would too...people die during season enders.

Peter has been in close enough proximity to the Haitian to absorb his power, yes.

As stated quite clearly in the 8th episode, Peter can reverse the Haitian's power because he has regeneration.  The Haitian's power cannot restore memories that it has erased.

Just a quick thought:

[spoiler]Did anyone notice that when Sylar demonstrated his power at the end, he TK'd a can of spinnich? Y'know, like Popeye? Spinnich gave Popeye powers? I just thought it was funny.

Oh, and a good episode to end the season, too.
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Quote from: Conduit on December 06, 2007, 05:41:22 AM
As stated quite clearly in the 8th episode, Peter can reverse the Haitian's power because he has regeneration.  The Haitian's power cannot restore memories that it has erased.

Not the question that was asked.  The question was "Can Peter now shut off people's powers?".  My answer to that still stands.

Quote from: Conduit on December 06, 2007, 05:41:22 AM
As stated quite clearly in the 8th episode, Peter can reverse the Haitian's power because he has regeneration.  The Haitian's power cannot restore memories that it has erased.

Then why can't Claire shake off the effects of having her memories erased many times before the Haitian told revealed what he was doing to her?

There is no evidence that Claire has ever had her memories erased.  In fact, when the Hatian reveals this to her, her tells her about wiping out her families memories, but not hers.  His downright refusal to do so would indicate to me that he has never done so.  He does express a willingness to do so if Claire wants to, but not otherwise.