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Started by the_ultimate_evil, July 16, 2007, 02:37:42 PM

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Zippo

Weirded out; but still looks better than that "Turtles: Fastforward" crap thats on 4kids right now.

captainspud


zuludelta

"Supa Myuta-shong!"  :lol:

I wonder if the Japanese have the same sort of befuddled reaction when they see the English adaptations of their cartoons.

Ares_God_of_War

Yeah fast forward is crap but man a peice of my soul died while watching that video

Ajax

It's like Ninja Turtles had a one nighter with Ronin Warriors and this is the result of their sordid affair.

Zippo

The more I think about it, the more strange it seems that they had to take a concept like teenage mutant ninja turtles and make it even MORE absurd to appeal to Japanese audiences.

JeyNyce


XLR8er


zuludelta

Quote from: Zippo on July 16, 2007, 08:31:45 PM
The more I think about it, the more strange it seems that they had to take a concept like teenage mutant ninja turtles and make it even MORE absurd to appeal to Japanese audiences.

What they should do is re-import the Japanese version of the ninja turtles to American TV and see how it's received.

Glitch Girl

Is this payback for all those heshin shows that got butchered to make Power Rangers?

detourne_me

"Saint Mutation!  Kick arse!"

my thoughts were... why is wolverine green?

Quote from: Glitch Girl on July 17, 2007, 07:27:36 AM
Is this payback for all those heshin shows that got butchered to make Power Rangers?

HAHAHAHA!!!

soo true.  tonight i was tempted to go watch the new Magic Rangers movie,  but opted fro harry potter instead.

the_ultimate_evil

whats scary is the animation looks almost identical to the 80's toon

The Hitman

... Waitaminute.

I have one of those action figures. Seriously. I've always wondered where it came from. I'll have a pic of it later... as soon as I find it.

Silver Shocker

This is nothing new, I've seen this before, and yes, I do think they captured the style of the 80's cartoon.
Yes, they did market the toys from this series into the NA toy line. I think they were called "Cyber Turtles" or "Sewer Samurai" or some such.

And for the record, I'm really tired of people saying that both the new cartoon and the "Fast Forward" version of it is crap. I really have to wonder if the people across the net who say this have even WATCHED more than two or three episodes of the show. The show (particularly the pre-Fast Forward version) has some of the best cases of forshadowing, season-wide plot development, and continuity I've seen, the animation glitches that were constantly in the 80's cartoon arn't anywhere to be found and and it has some strong character development. And unlike pretty much every tv and movie version of Ninja Turtles, it is actually true to the original comics and co-created by one of the original creators himself who had a large hand in many of the ideas. But no, go ahead, internet, I'm sure you'd rather just complain that you don't like the theme song, or that the turtles don't stab anybody (because that happened SOOOO much in the original cartoon, or today's cartoons in general, for that matter), or quote bad puns from the first season, 5 years ago, back when the writers were just getting into it. 

the_ultimate_evil

Quote from: Silver Shocker on July 20, 2007, 02:19:32 PM
This is nothing new, I've seen this before, and yes, I do think they captured the style of the 80's cartoon.
Yes, they did market the toys from this series into the NA toy line. I think they were called "Cyber Turtles" or "Sewer Samurai" or some such.

And for the record, I'm really tired of people saying that both the new cartoon and the "Fast Forward" version of it is crap. I really have to wonder if the people across the net who say this have even WATCHED more than two or three episodes of the show. The show (particularly the pre-Fast Forward version) has some of the best cases of forshadowing, season-wide plot development, and continuity I've seen, the animation glitches that were constantly in the 80's cartoon arn't anywhere to be found and and it has some strong character development. And unlike pretty much every tv and movie version of Ninja Turtles, it is actually true to the original comics and co-created by one of the original creators himself who had a large hand in many of the ideas. But no, go ahead, internet, I'm sure you'd rather just complain that you don't like the theme song, or that the turtles don't stab anybody (because that happened SOOOO much in the original cartoon, or today's cartoons in general, for that matter), or quote bad puns from the first season, 5 years ago, back when the writers were just getting into it. 

i enjoyed the new show and watch a great deal of it and thought it crossed over from child to mature extremely well, but i'm sorry once the decision was made to make shredder a bloody ultrom, they lost me as a fan. i cant see how anyone can actually defend that


on the subject of the film, seriously how can you say the first film did not stay true to the source material. its still one of the most faithful comic films today. and sadly its faithfulness was also one of its fault, because the creators refused to use beebop and rocksteady they had to make tokka and razer.now when i look back i enjoy all four characters but back when i was young and heard we were getting evil mutants i was royally ticked when i didnt get my warthog and rhino

vamp

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on July 20, 2007, 02:29:17 PM
i enjoyed the new show and watch a great deal of it and thought it crossed over from child to mature extremely well, but i'm sorry once the decision was made to make shredder a bloody ultrom, they lost me as a fan. i cant see how anyone can actually defend that

Yeah that was weird, but it was pretty hilarious to think he could kill in that form. But, overall it was a pretty good show.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I enjoyed the humor in the show. It was a bit juvenile but i not into dark or explicit humor.

Protomorph


thanoson

my eyes threw up. Umm, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the original April, Casey and the Mouse professor black? I remember April with a Geri curl in the game book by palladium. This doesn't live up to the closest interpitation to me. I'm speaking of the 1st movie.

Silver Shocker

Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on July 20, 2007, 02:29:17 PM

i enjoyed the new show and watch a great deal of it and thought it crossed over from child to mature extremely well, but i'm sorry once the decision was made to make shredder a bloody ultrom, they lost me as a fan. i cant see how anyone can actually defend that

I can do it quite easily.

1) The creator's reason: (directly from an FAQ on the official site)

QuoteWhy was Shredder an Utrom in the current cartoon series?

Peter Laird and series producer Lloyd Goldfine felt that the series needed a new angle that would surprise fans of the original comic books. They also like how it ties the Turtles' origin into the story of their arch nemesis - and they thought it was a cool idea.

2) My reason:
This version of the cartoon directly adapts major storylines from the original comics (notable examples include "Return to New York", "Turtles in Space" and "City at War", which was about 13 issues long in the comic), and many of the turtles adventures spanned space and time, fighting necromancers (Savanti Remero) and warring space empires (the Triceratons and the Federation) and the Shredder (who was orignally intended as a one-shot villain, in fact the first issue was originally meant as a one-shot with no planned follow-ups), made maybe a handfull of appearances (most clones or mystical resurrections). As such, reletively speaking, upgrading Shredder from a leader of a small lo-tech gang (in some versions made up of teenagers), to a intergalactic war criminal responsible for planet-wide military coups, overthrowing governments, and genocide, resulting in a body count somewhere in the something-hundred billions (according to his trial in season 3), is considerably more impressive IMO.


Quoteon the subject of the film, seriously how can you say the first film did not stay true to the source material. its still one of the most faithful comic films today. and sadly its faithfulness was also one of its fault, because the creators refused to use beebop and rocksteady they had to make tokka and razer.now when i look back i enjoy all four characters but back when i was young and heard we were getting evil mutants i was royally ticked when i didnt get my warthog and rhino

The first movie was the closest to the original comics, because Splinter and Hamato Yoshi were too differant people and The Foot were people. But it borrowed heavily from the cartoon (pizza was never a recurring theme in the comics, by the way, nor was "cowabunga" uttered on a regular basis) and what it DID adapt from the comic, it twisted around.

-April was originally Baxter Stockman's assistant, not a reporter.
-Oroku Saki was NOT a rival lover of Teng Shen, Oroku NAGI, his older brother, was. He was jealous of Yoshi, assualted Shen (possibly raped, but this wasn't made clear), and in retaliation Yoshi killed him. Saki killed them both to avenge his older brother. In the new cartoon, the part of Oroku Nagi was filled by a new character named Yukio Mashimi, who suffered the same fake as Nagi.
-The farmhouse belongs to CASEY'S reletives, not April's.
-Splinter had no part in defeating the Shredder. Killing the Shredder was part of the Turtles original training. They defeated him in battle (specifically Leonardo, if memory serves) and when Leo offered Shredder the oppuntunity to have an honorable death by committing sepekuu (by killing himself with his own weapon), he instead tried to kill them all with a grenade. Donatello knocked it back at Shredder with his bo and Shredder to blown to shreds.
-The canister came from a company called TCRI, not TGRI

And for the record, I liked Tokka and Razor. I don't like I would have liked Bebob and Rocksteady in the movie as they were comic relief villains (as was Shredder, and Krang), while the movies played the villains fairly straight. Tokka and Razor even appeared in a cartoon epiodes during one of the later seasons and they still kicked the Turtles' butt if memory serves. What I didn't like about the second movie (as I grew older) was that the Shredder went from someone who could beat all the turtles without breaking a sweat to someone who doesn't even fight them at all and has to make even stronger mutants.

Quotemy eyes threw up. Umm, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't the original April, Casey and the Mouse professor black? I remember April with a Geri curl in the game book by palladium. This doesn't live up to the closest interpitation to me. I'm speaking of the 1st movie.

The original comic was in black in white. One of the volumes was in color, but the turtles all wore red bandanas. Casey looked pretty much the same as he always does more or less (although character-wise, he seemed to hate the government. The 80's cartoon version had a paranoid fear of martians, and the new cartoon version is simply played a little more dumb for laughs). Stockman was black, insane, and DID have his brain transferred into a robot (all retained in the new cartoon, including Fast Forward), and April looked more Hispanic than anything else. Neither cartoons made her remotely similar to the comic version in terms of visual design. The first movie gave her a somewhat similar hair-style.

Oh, and Leatherhead wasn't a cajun, but a much bulkier creature than the turtles, and Rat King was a schzophrenic madman who lived in an abandoned housing district. Just like in the new cartoon.