My dream studio...

[Courtnall6]

Here's my "studio" for comparison  :lol:

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Cool, C6! Love the black and white "seat cushion"! ;)

Me too! It's very comfy...but a little noisy at times :P

that's actually very true. i should have qualified the statement by saying something like he wouldn't be able to compete with the talented young illustrators of this  generation. but i conceed... if liefield and linda medley could be employed...  anyone can.

Wow...I actually find this more insulting than your first post.

[daglob]

It is called style. Frank Quietly has an European approach to draws while Byrne's is simple straight forward anatomy. Quietly's work has a lot of French influence (heavily yet simple details) so saying she looks like an "ugly asian" is sort of flaming because you don't agree with the style.

BTW Chris Bachalo and a few other very detailed is also consider a "bad artist" because of his style but all art is subjective.

I dunno, I've seen quite a few bad artists who claimed that it was their "style" to draw like that. And I have to admit that, although I've seen Frank Quietly art, I can't remember it, and am not familiar with Chris Bachalo (gonna have to look him up).

As for bad, ever see any 1960s-vintage Jerry Grandinetti art?

[zuludelta]

I dunno, I've seen quite a few bad artists who claimed that it was their "style" to draw like that.

The thing about having a distinct "style" is that many artists immediately jump into a very stylized rendition of the human form without first gaining a solid grasp of fundamentals.

Grossly exaggerating the human body while maintaining a believable sense of anatomy, movement, and perspective is just as hard, or sometimes even more difficult, than creating a relatively straightforward rendering. Guys like the aforementioned Quitely and Bachalo as well as Mike Mignola, Kyle Baker, Skottie Young, and even Jack Kirby have all, at one time or another, been labeled as "bad" artists because of their tendency to distort and re-interpret the human form. I suspect that those who consider these guys "bad" artists are actually just not receptive to the artist's particular style of artistic re-interpretation so it's actually just a matter of taste and opinion. What differentiates Kirby/Mignola/Quitely/Bachalo from your Rob Liefelds, Whilce Portacios (and I'm a Portacio fan), and Todd McFarlanes is that they know which rules to break and when to break them to achieve a desired effect.

You can liken it to playing music... good musicians know how and when to improvise within the confines of a structured song. A great lead guitar player, for example, can totally go away from what the sheet music calls for and come up with something new and unexpected, but for the most part, he still stays in tempo with the rest of the band, is in key, and doesn't let his solo overshadow the whole song. Starting artists, whether in music or comic book illustration, often confuse "rule-breaking" for innovation, and tendency for technique or style.   

[nite_stalker]

Here's my "studio" for comparison  :lol:

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I aint seen that much drafting equipment in 15 years. Those were the days when draftsmen actually had to know how to draw by hand. Man, am I old. Next thing you know I'll be telling you how I killed a T-Rex with my straight edge and compass.

[GhostMachine]

I have to seriously laugh at that last comment by IPS, considering some of the artists working today are a LOT worse on their best day than Byrne on his worst day. Frank Quitely gets work, and his characters tend to be downright fugly at times. For example:

This is supposed to be the White Queen, but looks more like some ugly asian chick to me, and the facial proportions are off, amongst other things:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/covers/xmen/xmen116.jpg

It is called style. Frank Quietly has an European approach to draws while Byrne's is simple straight forward anatomy. Quietly's work has a lot of French influence (heavily yet simple details) so saying she looks like an "ugly asian" is sort of flaming because you don't agree with the style.

BTW Chris Bachalo and a few other very detailed is also consider a "bad artist" because of his style but all art is subjective.

AA, its NOT flaming when I (and most people) expect a character to be recognizable by more than their costume when they don't wear a mask. You can't honestly tell me that the character on that cover looks ANYTHING like Emma Frost except for the costume and hair color. As for the "Ugly Asian" comment, I distinctly remember seeing that issue on the stands and actually thinking it was an asian character with white hair until I took a look at the costume. From what I've seen of his most recent work on All-Star Superman, his art has improved somewhat, but I did not like his work on New X-Men at all, as a lot of the characters didn't look right and he even made most of the female characters look mostly unattractive. I do agree taste is subjective, however.

The ONLY artist I will ever accept accusations of flaming is Rob Liefeld, because I still to this day can't figure out how the man ever got a job.....

I actually like Chris Bachalo's work, by the way.

[psychopanda]

First there was Byrne's.

dunnnh-dunnnh..

Then there was C6's.

dunnnh-duhhnhnnnnhh...

And finally there was PsychoPanda's.

dunh-dunh-dunh-dunh-dunhhhhh....

Introducing the Studio-Matic 2001*!

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*Studio-Matic 2001 is copyright 1961, Studio Plastic inc.

[zuludelta]

That almost looks like my set-up 'panda, except I also have a pane of frosted glass that I put on my lap and use as a light table (I have a small LED lamp that I place between my legs for the actual light source)  :lol:

[psychopanda]

Actually, I seldom draw there. I have painted on that table several times (still some items from my last class, scattered there). Usually I just curl up on the couch or use the dining table. I almost bought a drafting table at a garage sale one day, but I don't really like the idea of being chained to one room to do my sketching. If I found a really nice table with a sliding ruler and everything though...who knows?!