Would Ultimate Captain America have died from the sniper attack?

[captmorgan72]

Assuming that Cap is in fact dead. Doesn't Ultimate Cap have a healing factor? I am pretty sure he has superhuman strength too, though that would not be a factor in his surviving the assasination attempt.

[Renegade]

The sniper shot went through Cap's shoulder, hardly a killing wound. The three gut shots from Sharon's gun however....

[Ares_God_of_War]

I havent read much of the ultimates but I have the first trade paperback. after the battle with the hulk he mentions to the news reported something about a broken nose, cracked ribs and a dislocated shoulder and says it should heal in a day or two

[Talavar]

Ultimate Cap is perhaps physically tougher than 616 Cap, but he's still not bullet-proof by any means, or capable of Wolverine-style regeneration.  I think the same assault would have done him in as well.

[Core]

I'm pretty sure Ultimate Cap wouldn't have gone against his own government in the first place, but even so, Ultimate Cap just has a higher bench press than regular Cap.

[Mowgli]

If it would make Marvel some quick cash... then the answer is "yes".

I don't mean to sound pessimistic about it, but that is the entire reason Steve Rogers died.  :(

[Podmark]

If it would make Marvel some quick cash... then the answer is "yes".

I don't mean to sound pessimistic about it, but that is the entire reason Steve Rogers died.  :(

Ya know, if I put myself in the role of writer I know that if I had an idea for a story that involved the lead dying, and I thought it was worth while then I'd do it. Not to say I disagree with, but that it's not the only reason. I guess I'm looking at it from a chicken or the egg prespective. Truth is I honestly believe that Ed Brubaker, who I've heard very good things about, is going to try to craft the best story he can from this. Still I wonder did he originate the idea or did it come from editorial and how much was it about attention and how much was it about the story? It's just something I think about everytime Cap's death is brought up.

Back on topic, Ultimate Cap is certainly stronger, and heals faster than regular Cap, though I'm not sure to what extent. Wikipedia or the Marvel Universe site might be able to give a specific level, or the Ultimate Handbook if you can find it. I'm pretty sure he would have died from the same attack though.

[zuludelta]

IIRC, Brubaker did intend to kill off Steve Rogers on his run in Captain America even before the whole Civil War event (I'll see if I can find a link to the interview where he states this), the same way that it was his intent all along to return Bucky Barnes as the Winter Soldier (there was also some controversy regarding that as well, with Brubaker being accused of trying to one-up the Jason Todd resurrection over in Batman... although it was apparent that since the plots were written months beforehand, that there was no way he could've known that the Batman writer at the time had similar plans). As far as "milking" the death for media exposure and to boost sales, well, I don't think you can fault the editors for doing what I think is a perfectly reasonable business move. It makes perfect sense to me for them to get maximum synergy out of Brubaker's plans to shake up the Captain America book and their tent-pole event for 2006. Did the death of Captain America dovetail neatly into Civil War? I'm not so sure it did, but it could've been handled much worse than it actually was.

But anyway, back to the question at hand... I think Ultimate Captain America could've survived multiple gunshot wounds to the body. He wouldn't be walking away from it but I think he could've survived. I mean this guy survived a full-on beatdown from the Hulk, which I imagine is similar to being hit with a speeding subway train repeatedly. 

EDIT: sorry about the digression here but I found the Brubaker interview, I'm quoting the relevant parts as it relates to the original ideas for Cap's Death.

My memory is it was something I floated as what I could do in Cap after Civil War's finale that would really stun people, and that would build off the buzz generated by Civil War...

>SNIP!<

... It was a long time ago now and we were all exhausted, so my memory on some stuff is a bit fuzzy. For all I know, the initial idea was from JMS or Millar or Bendis and I just mulled it over until it became mine.

>SNIP!<

The way this idea evolved into what it is now came from looking at my options on Cap as Civil War was ending, and seeing what they were. The two obvious options -- a) Cap resigns, gets on his motorcycle and goes to find America, and b) Cap is in jail and on trial -- were things I felt had been done, either in Cap, or in other comics -- notably, I'd just finished a run on Daredevil where Matt was in prison. So, since I didn't want to do either of those stories, I looked at my outline for the next few years that I'd been plotting out, and decided to push up my big "Red Skull Strikes Back" storyline a bit, and tweak it to coincide with Civil War and its fallout and ramifications...

>SNIP!<

This storyline, in one form or another, has been building since issue #1 of Cap. The way it begins, with Cap's death in issue #25, is probably more huge than it might have been otherwise, and more of an event. I tend not to think huge or event, generally, but this warrants it. But even with all that, to me, this is just a continuation of the story I've been telling in Cap all along, and this is the next step. If Civil War had not come along, it may have taken a while longer to get here, and Cap may or may not have been killed, but this is all fitting into my plans and leading to some great things in Cap.

Read the full interview here.