The Dark Knight

[stumpy]

Two notes:

First, I really hope the new franchise doesn't get too caught up in casting A list names for the Batman villains. I think that was part of the downfall of the first set of Batman movies - there was so much focus on this or that hot shot star playing some villain that the stories became marginalized and the character of Batman himself was something of an afterthought. Batman needs strong villains, but who is playing them should be way down on the list of draws for the audience. Meanwhile, Christian Bale is a very good actor for this role. I hope some time is spent doing character development for Batman/Bruce so that his talent is put to use.

I think Maggie Gyllenhaal is a great talent, but Rachel Dawes was a weak character in the first movie. Frankly, I was somewhat glad of that. I get tired of the Hollywood tendency to try and tack a romantic subplot onto any storyline. For this sort of movie, it's predictable, usually boring, and mostly unnecessary. I mean, in a Spider-Man movie, there has to be some focus on Mary Jane because Peter's romantic troubles are so much a part of the character. But, someone could do a great Batman movie and never mention a serious love interest for Bruce. I am not saying it couldn't be well done and I like MG for the role if it is to be there, but IMO the recurrence of Rachel Dawes was in no way justified by her role in the first movie.

[lugaru]

But, someone could do a great Batman movie and never mention a serious love interest for Bruce. I am not saying it couldn't be well done and I like MG for the role if it is to be there, but IMO the recurrence of Rachel Dawes was in no way justified by her role in the first movie.

I agree that the forced romantic subplot is very often a weakness in hollywood superhero movies. In some cases it is absolutely necesary but handled poorly (Daredevil - Electra) and sometimes it's just tacked on in a way that messes up the flow (Romantic subplot was another nail in the coffin of Catwoman). I kind of liked how in the punisher it never went anywhere though, because as soon as I saw mega babe Rebecca Romjn playing the unusually shy character of Joan I figured they where going for some high romance doomed love thing.

[Jakew]

More pics of Joker and goons:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Dark-Knight-Makes-History-Joker-Spotted-5289.html

[The Pwime]

the Chelsea grin is really spooking me...

but this movie is looking to be sweet.  I can't wait to see the new batsuit, in all it's "fabricy chainmail glory".

[Mr. Hamrick]

this is a just a rumor but the source of the rumor is from someone who is friends with one of the crew. 

[spoiler]Harley Quinn makes an appearance as Dr. Quinzell toward the end of the movie.  The Joker lives and asks her to "Call me Mr. J" and that is his last line of dialog.  I'd presume it's a setup to events in the third film.[/spoiler]

[detourne_me]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5716

[BentonGrey]

Say it ain't so!

[Mr. Hamrick]

Say it ain't so!

sorry it is so but check the other link that Jakew referred to

the real close up shot is not as bad as it looks.

[Mr. Hamrick]

I hate to double post but . . .

They really need to post a confirmed cast list. 

Anthony Michael Hall was apparently on The View this morning and mentioned his part in The Dark Knight.  He mentions that his character is a good guy not a villain as originally rumored.  So, who knows.

The two characters who I suspected Hall might have been signed on to play were either Alberto Falcone, Edward Nygma (aka The Riddler) or Kirk Langstrom aka Manbat) but this does not appear to be the case.  The part is supposedly a small one so who knows.

[BentonGrey]

Ohh!!  I think he'd make a pretty good Riddler, a better Langstrom, but a darn good Riddler.  He can pull of smugly superior, which is what I think really makes 'ol Eddie.  It's a shame he won't be either.

[RTTingle]

Hmmm...

AMH may be doing Jack Ryder.  How interesting would that be?  The Joker and the Creeper in the same flick.

[The Hitman]

Hmmm...

AMH may be doing Jack Ryder.  How interesting would that be?  The Joker and the Creeper in the same flick.

RTT, we must be on the same brainwave or something. I was just thinking about Hall as Creeper.

[Midnite]

Teaser peek of the new bat suit  :thumbup:

Be looking for a certain enteratinment magazine that is published by Time Warner weekly to see it -- TOMORROW (6/15/07)! It's an exclusive to them and I will respect that.

Your thoughts so far?


***Update***

[Revenant]

Big, big big   :spoiler:  :spoiler:  :spoiler:
:o :o :o :o :o

[spoiler]http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5860[/spoiler]

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Yes, Revenant, we already saw.  That's what the pic above was.

[Revenant]

[spoiler]I posted a link to a scan of the whole suit..[/spoiler]

[BentonGrey]

Hmm...it's not terrible or anything, but I don't much care for it.  I do like the cowl, it not being affixed to the shoulders is good.  I just don't like the way the suit looks like....armor.....Still, I suppose it's not really any worse than the first one.

[RTTingle]

Hmmm...

AMH may be doing Jack Ryder.  How interesting would that be?  The Joker and the Creeper in the same flick.

RTT, we must be on the same brainwave or something. I was just thinking about Hall as Creeper.

Or Jean Paul Valley.  The whole "Batman wannabe" thing has me thinking more Azrael.  Has to be one of those two.  Creeper would be interesting... but I got this feeling its Azrael.  Especially with conflicting reports of what side of the law he falls on. 

Interesting.

I just hope it doesn't clutter the movie too much.  Eh.  I trust the guys, they know what they're doing in terms of story.  I have great faith in them, Batman Begins earned it.

RTT

[Alaric]

I hate to double post but . . .

They really need to post a confirmed cast list. 

Anthony Michael Hall was apparently on The View this morning and mentioned his part in The Dark Knight.  He mentions that his character is a good guy not a villain as originally rumored.  So, who knows.

The two characters who I suspected Hall might have been signed on to play were either Alberto Falcone, Edward Nygma (aka The Riddler) or Kirk Langstrom aka Manbat) but this does not appear to be the case.  The part is supposedly a small one so who knows.

I may be missing something, but why would the fact that the character's a good guy rule out Langstrom? Manbat has at times been portrayed as a hero, after all...

[Talavar]

I like the new suit, a movable neck seems like a pretty big advantage that all of the previous bat-suits have lacked.

[Jakew]

Obviously they've fixed the cowl so they can film some good fight scenes ... no more shaky cam! The jittery fight scenes were the most picked on aspect of the first film.

[Revenant]

I wish Anthony Michael Hall's character would be connected in some way to Helena Bertinelli..

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

Rev, yes I went to your link, it was the exact same thing posted above you, although since that is no longer available, it is good to have reposted it, but you seemed to think it was something new.

[the_ultimate_evil]

well to put it plainly, rev's works the other does not

[Revenant]

At the time I posted it, the one above was a teaser pic - a detail of the Bat logo.

The one i posted was a scan of Entertainment Weekly showing the whole picture.

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

The one i posted was a scan of Entertainment Weekly showing the whole picture.

Which was exactly what the above post was a few hours before you posted it.

Oh well.  As I said, the other pic is gone now anyway.

[Mowgli]

And even if Revenant posted a pic that was already posted, that would be a problem because...?

Thanks for posting it Revenant, I hadn't seen it.  :)

It isn't a terrible looking suit at all. It just doesn't look like Batman. I just want to say, "Tony Stark called, he wants his stealth armor back." I wish they would just used the suit from Batman Dead End. That looks like an Alex Ross painting come to  life.  :(

[BentonGrey]

And even if Revenant posted a pic that was already posted, that would be a problem because...?

Thanks for posting it Revenant, I hadn't seen it.  :)

It isn't a terrible looking suit at all. It just doesn't look like Batman. I just want to say, "Tony Stark called, he wants his stealth armor back." I wish they would just used the suit from Batman Dead End. That looks like an Alex Ross painting come to  life.  :(

Exactly Mowgli, for once you and I are in complete agreement.  Still, I'm sure it will turn out alright.  I would like to see it in action, and I hope the theories are correct and that this will lead to better fight scenes!

[Midnite]

Pictures of the Batcycle...err.... Batpod.

Pic 1

Pic 2

Article

Video

Hi-Res   Batsuit

[the_ultimate_evil]

ummm where's the rest of it, it looks like it wasn't finished being built