Volsung's Factory

Volsung · March 20, 2007, 05:03:55 PM

I couldn't resist to try the male suit

That great luthor texture helps a lot (I don't know who did it, I found it un Crisis mod)
But that subject is too much specific.I edited the face so it would be closer to luthor.Which means a bruce wayne skin could look weird on that model.

quiet · March 20, 2007, 05:26:03 PM

that would be C6's work on the suit mesh, which I believe he modeled after the timmerverse luthor. The way you edited that mesh, it looks exactly like the animated version. exactly. that's crazy.

Volsung · March 21, 2007, 03:17:12 AM

Zivon23:
Mega Male basic? what does it look like?
By the way,I think I prefer to work on irrationnal meshes instead of editing an edited mesh? no?

Quiet:
Thanks!I did not worked on c6 mesh^^I chopped the male basic head and welded it on civilian's mesh.
I've got to crush my fingers with my mouse each time that i'm tempted to work on timmverse style textures.
If only I could live comfortably as a part-time worker!

quiet · March 21, 2007, 04:05:19 AM

Im sorry I was not clear, I believe the mesh is male_suit v2 with the lex luthor skin by C6. sorry about the confusion.

the_ultimate_evil · March 21, 2007, 05:52:29 AM

volsung these look amazing, definatly a interesting idea

hmm i didnt think gren released the max of his male_suit v2.

if anyone else thinking two face

Volsung · March 21, 2007, 06:36:36 AM

'thinking two face' :huh:

Volsung · March 21, 2007, 07:57:59 AM

The Hitman · March 21, 2007, 08:55:55 AM

Dang, the male_suit version turned out GREAT!

Protomorph · March 21, 2007, 10:53:52 AM

This is a great idea, whose time is come!

they look great, Volsung!

Volsung · March 21, 2007, 11:09:27 AM

Guys...
After finishing some liberty bay stuff i was about to left freedom force in retreat,and work on something else.(no link with that kind of game).
But now i'm in a dilemma.

Now I'm thinking about seriously investing in a Timmverse project.
Going beyond simple mesh editing for anonymous characters and making concrete close characters.
Including textures,no animations, but maybe talking heads too...

That's ironical for a guy who was talking about a FF map meant to giant robots and who throw quickly that project away.
But in this project I d'ont need to learn new software.And above all, I could release those models on MUA too!
Marvel ultimate alliance which i prefered not to involve more in.

I think that i'm going to make one precise character first, so I could estimate the effort and time necessary.

Volsung · March 21, 2007, 04:45:57 PM

Another test on Brainiac with Courtnall6's skin.(This time I was clever enough to check crisis readme file)

Some areas are really stretched.
The arms are self made (with fingers barrely noticeable)
I rushed to the end

Carravaggio · March 21, 2007, 04:55:12 PM

GAH! still looks fantastic, mate! C6's stuff lends itself to this kind of venture.
with that tall head and eeeeevil eyes, it looks spot on like the one from the show.
this is very exciting stuff...

Carravaggio · March 21, 2007, 05:34:55 PM

Quote from: Volsung on March 21, 2007, 11:09:27 AM
Guys...
After finishing some liberty bay stuff i was about to left freedom force in retreat,and work on something else.(no link with that kind of game).
But now i'm in a dilemma.

Now I'm thinking about seriously investing in a Timmverse project.
Going beyond simple mesh editing for anonymous characters and making concrete close characters.
Including textures,no animations, but maybe talking heads too...

That's ironical for a guy who was talking about a FF map meant to giant robots and who throw quickly that project away.
But in this project I d'ont need to learn new software.And above all, I could release those models on MUA too!
Marvel ultimate alliance which i prefered not to involve more in.

I think that i'm going to make one precise character first, so I could estimate the effort and time necessary.

i'd love to play as timmverse supes in MUA. the fact that the models could have two uses, FF AND MUA, well, why the heck not? it make sthem twice as useful and therefore, twice as worth doing.

AfghanAnt · March 21, 2007, 05:44:27 PM

That's the best Brainiac I've seen. (It may be the only but whatever). I really like the way these are coming out. Great job in spite of the stretching.

The Pwime · March 21, 2007, 05:45:55 PM

Oh man, these get more and more awesome with each new one you make.

Great work on Luthor and Brainiac. :D

style · March 21, 2007, 05:52:36 PM

Hey Volsung If you make a Two Face mesh I'm pretty sure I can convince 'ole C6 to skin him. :thumbup:

cvc · March 21, 2007, 10:28:55 PM

Thats just (WOW) crazy good !

Revenant · March 22, 2007, 12:45:11 AM

Volsung, I love these!! That Brainiac made me jump out of my seat!

I can't wait for these... It's great to have more variety in body types; we've been using basic ones for a long time.

Quote from: Volsung on March 20, 2007, 08:09:11 AM

There's timmverse female characters with bobbed hair?

Maybe Raven from the Teen Titans if she crossed-over.
Gypsy, as well: http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Gypsy.jpg
I remember Ace and Ten from the Royal Flush Gang.
This makes it possible to hex together nearly any character we've seen in Timmverse.

edit: I left a clue as to my request in the above two sentences ^_^

the_ultimate_evil · March 22, 2007, 06:00:40 AM

i'd just like to state that me, mentioning two face was in no way and should notbe taking as a request, i've been here long enough to know better.

it was just me thinking alound about it nothing more

i apologise volsung

Volsung · March 22, 2007, 07:01:39 AM

Evil, why do you apologise?!There's no harm.After all, Luthor was a kind of request.
And Two face is an interesting subject.

So here's our heavyweight skinning champion Revenant!
The first reason of this thread success is the opportunity that those models offer to skinners.
(More than me, pretending to make complete precise characters)
Nevertheless ,I dare to try a timmverse texture.
Just to test a good crossover between fake cell shading and detailled texture.
I even thought of duplicating and thicken the mesh to simulate cell shading outline.But it would double the polycount and i'd like to avoid LOD.
Anyway some skinners may need a texture basis , since I'll replace some mesh parts of the classic male basic (like the arms on Brainiac, the hands won't be exactly unwrapped the same way)

You guys are impatient to begin a skin for those new meshes so I'll hurry.
First ,putting a skeleton on those buffed up mesh and see if standard animations goes well.
(BTW Galatea 's got bobbed hair too!)

I'll export the models by using my good old 3ds max3.
Usually I convert them by using nifconverter
But you know that i've experienced some animations issues with multiples instances of some models in FFVTTR.
My models will have that error.Someone told me that it could be fixed by using nifskope.
I'll need someone to do that^^

The Hitman · March 22, 2007, 09:44:54 AM

So... these are going to be FFvTR only? Bummer.

Eh, I'll get over it. Great job again on the meshes, Vol!

Volsung · March 22, 2007, 09:57:19 AM

Quote from: The Hitman on March 22, 2007, 09:44:54 AM
So... these are going to be FFvTR only? Bummer.

No^^precisely!
Since i'm using max 3.1 and ff1 exporter
Usually for FFvttr I convert my exports with nif converter.
But it doesn't solve that issue
http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41056.0

The Hitman · March 24, 2007, 10:04:56 AM

OK, that's cool. Thanks for clearing that up.

I just had a weird idea. Would it be possible to "Timm- ize" the original Freedom Force cast? I think it would be kinda neat to have , maybe, a mod that just replaces the regular meshes with Timm style ones. And I think it could be done. I seem to recall a mod by DarkJared of Comic Skins Network making one that replaced all the standard skins. And Irrational released all the Max Files... sorry, just thinking out loud.

Volsung · March 24, 2007, 10:57:28 AM

Well^^ I think what's already planned overworked me enough!
I resume those test soon.Moreover, Liberty bay awaits!

Revenant · March 24, 2007, 01:05:15 PM

Quote from: Volsung on March 22, 2007, 07:01:39 AM
(BTW Galatea 's got bobbed hair too!)

hehe!

Volsung · March 24, 2007, 02:20:59 PM

My eyes! It burns!
Stop teasing me! :P

Volsung · March 25, 2007, 09:29:21 AM

Fake cell shading!

I still hesitate with the method

The Pwime · March 25, 2007, 09:48:59 AM

OH MY GOD! :o

Volsung, that's SOOOO awesome!

The Hitman · March 25, 2007, 10:02:05 AM

Dang, that looks pretty cool!

Volsung · March 25, 2007, 11:34:56 AM

Thanks!
I admit i'm quite satisfied.

I must decide of a definitive style (the one that look better in game))
If i keep the outline, i'll see if I can't lower the polycount without loosing to much quality.
(I already sacrificed the fingers)
I'll use LOD if necessary.
Finally i'll test some famous keyframes to check if the model acts normally.

I guess Brainiac is the first of a timmverse models legion!
I'm ready to make talking heads too if that can lead to a great DC Animated Universe mod!

Don't worry cat, after that last Brainiac test, I'll finish hawk and coppertop!