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Started by Flying_Infant, April 11, 2007, 04:16:57 PM

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catwhowalksbyhimself

I just looked at the statistics.

It's already made 125 mil.

It's the second highest non-sequel opening of all time behind spider-man, and Iron Man now considered the second biggest Marvel comic book movie character of all time behind Spider Man.

The Rotten Tomato rating is up to 95%, which makes it the highest rating of any comic book movie in that site's history.

I also found out that Marvel self-financed the whole thing.  Which has turned out to be a good gamble.

GogglesPizanno

I think Marvel is pretty much self financing all of their films now (aside form distribution deals). This was a big deal a while back so that they could have all their properties under one roof and under their control and that would enable potential crossovers and intermingling of characters without a lot of the legal hassles they had before over who owned rights to certain things in certain types of media.

And $125 mil is WAY above what I think projections were. I heard they were gonna announce a green lit sequel if it could top a $50 mil opening. $90 mil I think is what they were optimistically hoping for...  SWISH, nuthin but net!

Regardless, I'm just happy that people have taken to it.
The more I thought about it, the more the movie just makes me smile over how fun it was.

Protomorph

Just got back from seeing it.


As many of you know, I am very critical of comic book movies. However, I had very high hopes for this one.


I was not disappointed in the least! It was EVERYTHING I had hoped for.


I AM SO RELIEVED!  :wub:

Finally, a good comic book movie. I would even go as far to say it was equally as good as Spider-Man 1, possibly even better.

post-credits scene. totally worth the wait. Most of the people in the theater seemed to not be aware of it. I told a few people they ought to wait.

Concerning Stan Lee's Scene... [spoiler]He is shown on the red carpet, in a robe, escorting to beauteus blondes to an event. Tony passes him and says "Hey, Hef". Comical, sure to make Stan into Hugh Hefner. The funniest part to me is that in the credits, Stan Lee is listed as playing..."Himself".

So, we are to believe that Stan Lee has adopted a Playboy lifestyle, models included? LOL [/spoiler]

Dr.Volt

Quote from: Protomorph on May 03, 2008, 05:37:14 PM
Just got back from seeing it.


As many of you know, I am very critical of comic book movies. However, I had very high hopes for this one.


I was not disappointed in the least! It was EVERYTHING I had hoped for.


I AM SO RELIEVED!  :wub:

Finally, a good comic book movie. I would even go as far to say it was equally as good as Spider-Man 1, possibly even better.

post-credits scene. totally worth the wait. Most of the people in the theater seemed to not be aware of it. I told a few people they ought to wait.

Concerning Stan Lee's Scene... [spoiler]He is shown on the red carpet, in a robe, escorting to beauteus blondes to an event. Tony passes him and says "Hey, Hef". Comical, sure to make Stan into Hugh Hefner. The funniest part to me is that in the credits, Stan Lee is listed as playing..."Himself".

So, we are to believe that Stan Lee has adopted a Playboy lifestyle, models included? LOL [/spoiler]

Me too....saw it last night...LOVED it!  Now I'm proping it!  'Nuff Said.

yell0w_lantern

A decent story with two excellent actors made this movie quite enjoyable.
The Dude did not abide.  :(

bredon7777

Missed a chance to go with the Proto's cause Mrs. bredon decided I needed new work outfits. :(

Been informed she will make it up to me on my b-day this Friday.  (By taking me to the  movie, sheesh! Get yer minds outta the gutter :lol:) 

Y'all are making me count down the minutes!

AncientSpirit

Quote from: Protomorph on May 03, 2008, 05:37:14 PM
Just got back from seeing it.


As many of you know, I am very critical of comic book movies. However, I had very high hopes for this one.


I was not disappointed in the least! It was EVERYTHING I had hoped for.


I AM SO RELIEVED!  :wub:

Finally, a good comic book movie. I would even go as far to say it was equally as good as Spider-Man 1, possibly even better.

post-credits scene. totally worth the wait. Most of the people in the theater seemed to not be aware of it. I told a few people they ought to wait.

Concerning Stan Lee's Scene... [spoiler]He is shown on the red carpet, in a robe, escorting to beauteus blondes to an event. Tony passes him and says "Hey, Hef". Comical, sure to make Stan into Hugh Hefner. The funniest part to me is that in the credits, Stan Lee is listed as playing..."Himself".

So, we are to believe that Stan Lee has adopted a Playboy lifestyle, models included? LOL [/spoiler]


Actually, Stan's wife was a model.   So, not too far from the truth.   :D

danhagen

Stan's wife was a model and a novelist, and made the suggestion that resulted in Marvel Comics — that Stan write super heroes the way he wanted to for once, just for the hell of it.

captainspud

Not much to say about this-- it's simply the best comic film ever made. Better than Batman Begins, better than Spidey. There are NO boring lulls in the film, because Tony is just as entertaining to watch as Iron Man is-- so whether it's an in-suit or out-of-suit sequence, it's still fantastic.

NomadX

I avoided this thread until today, because I wanted to see it first. But, it seems like everyone has the same opinion of it. Great movie!  :thumbup: My brother saw it before me and said it was the best superhero movie he's seen, and I think now I can finally agree with him on something. I wasn't a big fan of Iron Man before this movie came out but I really enjoyed it. Go see it!

B A D

I will echo Spud Man's sentiments. Its truely the First Adult Superhero movie that exceeds all expectations. its just full of awesome.

crimsonquill

Looks like I'm following in the same path everyone else is regarding Iron Man... It's a full on homerun clear out of the park into the next state. The casting was fantastic, SFXs so good that you can't tell where the CGI starts and the practical FXs begin, excellent pacing between action-humor-storytelling, and tons of easter eggs seeding future characters and the Marvel Universe itself.

If this is the trend for Marvel's new production deal and it also holds up with Incredible Hulk as well... then we all should prepare ourselves for years of blockbusters to come. And say goodbye to half-attempted efforts that we ALL would rather forget about.. not that I need to dig them up here.

[spoiler]As much as I was prepared for Samuel L. Jackson's appearance as Nick Fury.. it just made my hair stand on end when you finally see him in role of the Ultimate Universe character they based his appearance on. It feels 'official' now that he has stepped into those shoes and really makes my imagination drool at what a "Nick Fury: Director of SHIELD" movie would be like. Futuristic James Bond, anyone?[/spoiler]

- CrimsonQuill

catwhowalksbyhimself

QuoteIf this is the trend for Marvel's new production deal

There isn't a new production deal.  Marvel got tired of the way some of their movies were doing and went with "If you want something done right you've got to do it yourself."

This is totally, completely, in-house produced at the brand new Marvel studios.

But you're main point may very well be right.  We could be in a new era of Marvel movies.  Maybe.  It's definitely a good start, from all I hear.

Pyroclasm

Saw it yesterday morning.  Great movie.  Not much more to say beyond what's been said here.
Anyways, it inspired me to do a mockup of an Iron Man II movie poster: http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=46753.msg643987#msg643987

Silver Shocker

I saw it this weekend. Quite good, I liked the scenes of him building and testing the armor. Samuel L's scene really was fan wish fulfillment.

Regardless,

Quote from: captainspud on May 04, 2008, 07:08:41 AM
Not much to say about this-- it's simply the best comic film ever made. Better than Batman Begins, better than Spidey.

Blasphemy! Batman Begins and Spider-Man 2 were awesome! I doth declare vendetta!  :P

Podmark

Great movie. And I would have waited through the whole thing just to see Sam L as Nick Fury. Can't wait for that Ultimates movie.

daerdevil

Just jumping on the Ironman Band Wagon.  Great film.  Acting, story line, and FX were all top notch.  Kudos for Marvel allowing a more adult themed movie.  Lots of easter eggs and goodies for us comic geeks. I saw this movie with three girls, who have never laid eyes on an Iron Man comic, and they enjoyed it too.  This movie is screaming for a sequel, which apparently is already planned.

And in case you've been living under a rock, DO STAY through the credits! 

[spoiler]Unfortunately, it appears that Marvel wants all members to have their own movie before they'll put out one dealing with the "initiative".[/spoiler]

Uncle Yuan

I'm going to be a voice of dissent amongst all the cheers.  Before I pull out my soapbox, though, I am going to acknowledge that the cast was excellent, RD makes an excellent Tony Stark and GP was sexier than I've seen her in quite a while.

*pulls out soapbox*

[spoiler]My complaint about the movie is really a complaint about Hollywood (and by extension, US) culture.  By way of preamble I should explain that Aunt Yuan and I have an exchange student from Afghanistan living with us for the year.  We (including the Yuanling) all went to see the movie together, and let me tell you - nothing makes you aware how a particular group of people are portrayed in popular media like being closely associated with someone from that group.  Aunt Yuan has pointed out how depressing it must be for a young man to be so far from home and the only time he hears about his homeland in the news is when something horrible has happened there.  I was painfully aware of the Afghanistan scenes, aware of the portrayal of almost all of the Afghanis in the film and very painfully aware that a young Afghani was sitting at my right elbow.

With one exception, people in Afghanistan were portrayed as one of two things.  Either they were sadistic terrorists or terrified victims.  I know some will feel compelled to make the argument that the terrorist group was multi-national.  My response is 1)They sure didn't LOOK multinational and  2)To the uneducated American consumer they didn't sound multinational.  In fact, the only real "proof" that the group is multinational is two references to them as such and one reference to a pair of them speaking Hungarian.  This stacked against the much more predominate visuals and cookie cutter behavior of a "middle eastern" terrorist.  So we have a few token lines of dialog put in place to try and counter act tens of minutes of powerful and visceral visuals.  The end result is a generic Arabian/Afghani terrorist organization that fulfills and reinforces all the worst stereotypes about people from that region of the world.

The flip side to being a terrorist, apparently, is to be a screaming, helpless victim.  This is really not much of an improvement.

Add to this the almost trite use of caves and an absolutely inaccurate portrayal of an Afghan desert (the only "desert" is in the northwestern lowlands bordering Iran) you have an over simplified, skewed, stereotypical and almost universally negative portrayal of a county and its people.

Having said all this I realize that super hero movies require both bad guys to beat up and victims to save.  I realize that the brutal regional conflict and abuse of his technology is crucial to the development of the character.  I realize that the use of stereotypes, particularly negative ones, is a quick way to identify the villain and generate audience antipathy towards a villain or villainous group.  I also realize that many (if not most) Americans (the FR crowd notably excepted) are not terribly sophisticated or worldly and are extremely unlikely to reflect on the portrayal of Afghanistan shown in the film.  I also realize that 90+% of the Arabs/Muslims/South Asians portrayed in mainstream US films are going to be 2-dimensional villains and that my griping is unlikely to change anything.

But above all I am acutely aware that there was a young, intelligent, kind and hard working Afghani sitting by my side who was subjected to yet another negative stereotype of his home and people in the name of "entertainment."

I was embarrassed.[/spoiler]

*puts away soapbox*

the_ultimate_evil

yaun i do agree with you but honestly it's nothing new and thats sad, you could take what you said and replace it with any nationality.

i mean seriously do you know how many films i've had to turn off due to the stereotypical good little paddy irish man

i mean when i heard hellboy II has major story points in and around northern ireland, my first reaction was great my home gets some exposure that isn't a twisted version of the "troubles" but then i thought ahh crap here with go with the leprechauns and and the little dancing.

this is hitting home due to your personal connections but sadly things like this will never change, look at the films from a few years ago, it was the russians, then cubans etc

catwhowalksbyhimself

Every country does that about other countries.  I've seen some foriegn films that portray all Americans as dumb and arrogant.

That's the way it is.

Previsionary

Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on May 05, 2008, 09:24:02 AM
Every country does that about other countries.  I've seen some foriegn films that portray all Americans as dumb and arrogant.

That's the way it is.

I'd like to chime in with cat and UE and say, this happens everywhere and there's no getting around it until every nation decides to learn more about the other and stop using exaggerated current stereotypes, but then again, how many people outcry when parts of our own nation are misrepresented? There're cultures in the U.S. now that don't get their fair portrayals, so until that problem is addressed, I highly doubt the portrayals of people abroad will be addressed by the majority of "U.S." writers and movie makers. :S

stumpy

Uncle Yuan, while you make a good point, I have to respectfully disagree with some of it, too.

[spoiler]First, I do feel compelled to note, as you did, that it was mentioned several times that the terrorist group was generically multinational. For one thing, even Yinsen (Tony's doctor friend during captivity) said that, though he spoke several (middle eastern and other) languages, he still couldn't catch all of what was being said.

Second, as far as I can remember, none of the main bad guys looked particularly Afghani (where the movie went out of its way to identify them as such). I could be forgetting someone, but there is no way I would look at the main middle-eastern bad guy (the shaved head guy) or the bearded heavy-set lieutenant and assume they were Afghani and I don't remember anything in the movie that indicated that they were supposed to be. Obviously, many of the extra grunts and local inhabitants were supposed to be, and they were portrayed as victims. But, that would be true no matter where they set the terrorist camp. Even if it had been in Saint Louis, they would have been victims without much to recommend them.

Moreover, I think we (and audiences in general) are supposed to know that the places we were shown were specifically supposed to be terrorist strongholds, not generic towns in Afghanistan. It's not as though Tony (or IM) went to ten places in Afghanistan and they were all the same. He was taken to and went to two places that he knew held terrorist camps.

Third, and this is my main point in this regard: Yinsen. He definitely is supposed to be Afghani, since he mentions his home town and it's the one IM goes back to later. And he is portrayed not only as educated and competent but also as heroic. Not only does he save Tony's life twice, but he acts honorably throughout and characterizes his home town as a lovely place, not just as typically war-torn or poverty-stricken. If there is any middle-easterner that we get to know in the movie, it is Yinsen, and he is very positively portrayed.[/spoiler]

Anyway, I am not saying that the overall portrayal was so positive or accurate or three-dimensional. It wasn't. But it wasn't so gratuitously negative, either, especially given the genre. And, it certainly wasn't as bad as it could have been...

yell0w_lantern

Movies are always full of crap that is inaccurate. For example, nasogastric tubes DO NOT make the sound they used in the movie.

Pyroclasm

Just posted today on Yahoo Finance:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080505/20080505005656.html?.v=1

Iron Man made $100.75 million in the US and a Worldwide total of $201 million!  (Second Best Non-Sequel Debut)
Marvel also released information on their expected lineup of in-house produced movies through 2011:
Iron Man 2 (April 2010)
Thor (June 2010)
Captain America (May 2011)
The Avengers (July 2011)
Ant-Man (no date set)

Movies produced by non-Marvel companies:
Punisher: War Zone (December 2008)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (May 2009)

BWPS

Quote from: yell0w_lantern on May 05, 2008, 02:09:51 PM
Movies are always full of crap that is inaccurate. For example, nasogastric tubes DO NOT make the sound they used in the movie.
Yeah, that's what ruined it for me.

TheMarvell

Well, I gotta admit, I was very disappointed that Marvel didn't go with last years great ideas thrown into two of their summer movies and have Iron Man use his new-found technology for a fun dance-off scene! Those were sooo great, I don't know why the hell they wouldn't want to do that again! Hopefully Hulk will be doing this, or playing a mean, sexy game of basketball too, like Catwoman!</sarcasm>  :lol:

Uncle Yuan

Quote from: yell0w_lantern on May 05, 2008, 02:09:51 PM
Movies are always full of crap that is inaccurate. For example, nasogastric tubes DO NOT make the sound they used in the movie.

Nor or they long enough to come out the other end.

C4

QuoteQuote from: yell0w_lantern on May 05, 2008, 02:09:51 PM
Movies are always full of crap that is inaccurate. For example, nasogastric tubes DO NOT make the sound they used in the movie.

Yeah, that's what ruined it for me.

:lol:

herodad1

talked to some guys at work the other day.they said the hulk movie is going to touch on the super soldier program.opening up a captain america movie?

crimsonquill

Quote from: herodad1 on May 06, 2008, 02:37:48 PM
talked to some guys at work the other day.they said the hulk movie is going to touch on the super soldier program.opening up a captain america movie?

That is part of the rumormill that a scene with Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) having a cameo with General Thunderbolt Ross (William Hurt) at a bar with Tony asking him for some samples of the "bio-booster" they used on Abomination for the Avengers Initiative.

My theory of how the Captain America film is going to be handled is that Nick Fury has been working on making super soldiers based on the old files left behind after World War II. All previous attempts have failed and only one slight success was made with a new mixture and it has resulted in an unstable violent soldier by the name of John Walker. But before all hope in the project is lost, Captain America is found frozen in an iceberg and thawed out. Of course the film starts with an Ultimates inspired opening with Captain and his troops being dropped in to fight the Nazis and maybe a brief fight between Capt and The Red Skull before the legendary rocket scene. During the course of the film we finally see why Nick has been getting the runaround by the Government and discover that Red Skull also survived in hybernation and has been building a secret empire and John Walker shall be unleashed upon the population as a false hero for the people. Fury manages to talk Steve Rogers into taking up his uniform and shield again after he has been walking around trying to come to terms with a world that has left him behind. We get a battle between Walker and Steve for the mantle of Captain America and then both team up against Skull and his forces. Only one of the heroes walks away and Nick introduces him to The Avengers.

- CrimsonQuill

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