Spectacular Spider-man

[detourne_me]

Yeah,  i loved this episode too.
anyone else notice the new character Ned Lee?  ;)

[crimsonquill]

anyone else notice the new character Ned Lee?  ;)

Yup, I'm sure they have plans for him since Ned Lee seems awfully familar to a certain Daily Bugle reporter named "Ned Leeds" in the comics (for those of you who don't recognize the character because of them using a Korean influence on the name). Not sure if they plan to involve him in a future Hobgoblin story in Season 2 but maybe they might be using him to set up a Superhero Reporting division which gets ol' Ned caught up in his own story arc.

- CrimsonQuill

[docdelorean88]

I'm going to put this in the requests as well but would anyone be interested in making the green goblin[out of The Spectacular spider-man (TV)]? It would pbobably be an easy skope. Then again i have no skoping, skinning or meshing experience, so...

[docdelorean88]

I didn't see the entire preview for next weeks episode, i got Doc Oc. But did they say anything important about the plot?

[crimsonquill]

I didn't see the entire preview for next weeks episode, i got Doc Oc. But did they say anything important about the plot?

Nothing major about it anyway.. Goblin makes his move against Tombstone for control of the crime syndicate while Doc Ock has his accidental origin while working on a new villian for Osbourne. And they show more mysterious things going on with Norman and Harry to deepen the guesses as to who is really the Goblin.

- CrimsonQuill

[Glitch Girl]

However someone said earlier that he had an Irish accent.. I didn't hear it but wouldn't surprise me that a redheaded family might have some Irish buried in them somewhere that might surface if an alternate personality took over.

- CrimsonQuill

That was me.  Didn't hear it that much in the actual episode, think it was only one line but it was the one they showed in the previews.

I too really loved the episode.  Never knew I could like Tombstone this much. And I was very impressed with how they handled Goblin and managed to keep his identity somewhat murky, even for those of us who know cannon.  REally like the groundwork they've laid for future stuff.   

Does anyone know if this is going to be picked up when the CW is suposedly dropping their kids lineup in the future?

[Ajax]

It's going to Nickelodeon I believe.

[crimsonquill]

It's going to Nickelodeon I believe.

Yeah, I remember news that NickToons was the channel they will end up on as part of their new production deal with Paramount... rumors are that the new Iron Man, Wolverine And The X-Men, Hulk, and Fantastic Four (moving from Cartoon Network) will end up there as well. Oddly though that a Black Panther series written by the current writer of the comic book is being created just for the BET network.

- CrimsonQuill

[Previsionary]

Yes, "NickToons" is getting ironman and the new x-men show for sure. I posted links earlier (I think in this thread or maybe another, don't remember). I don't know if that means these shows will play on the original nickelodeon or just be exclusive to the digital/satellite cable variant.

[Glitch Girl]

I hope it'll play on original Nick.  I only got basic cable, no special channels ('cause I'm cheap) but I would like to see this one as it continues. 

[detourne_me]

Reggie Hudlin is the president of BET's Entertainment division,  it really makes sense for marvel and BET to keep the BP cartoon there.
Will he be doubling his writing duties though,  thats the question.

You know something i like about Tombstone being the big man? wasn't the original Enforcers Big Man an albino too?

[thalaw2]

This is the best spider-man Cartoon.....EVER!!!


And why shouldn't it be?  It has decades of cannon to build off of.

[MJB]

Yeah, I remember news that NickToons was the channel they will end up on as part of their new production deal with Paramount... rumors are that the new Iron Man, Wolverine And The X-Men, Hulk, and Fantastic Four (moving from Cartoon Network) will end up there as well.

I find it strange that these cartoons will be seen on Nick. Cartoon Network has been the financier of the post CW Marvel cartoons.

I welcome the new Nick/Marvel partnership with open arms.

-MJB

[Glitch Girl]

I don't.  :(

I don't get NickToons.  Only Nick Basic for lack of a better term.  Guess I better enjoy the series while I can. 

[Previsionary]

it'll probably be online somewhere too. The new speed racer toon was on youtube like the day it came out on nicktoons. Anyway, doesn't nicktoons have a streaming service? I know nickelodeon does as they advertise it like crazy so I'm assuming their sister channel does as well. I'm probably wrong, but eh...

[Podmark]

I have to say this cartoon is quite simply awesome. I love how much of the cast and plots they've worked in. The animation and some of the changes like Liz take a little getting used to but the plots totally make up for it. Show really surprised me.

Also Keith David is an inspired choice for Tombstone. I love Gargoyles.

[Talavar]

Is Keith David back in the newest episode?  Because in the episode where we learn who the "Big Man" was, it wasn't him doing the voice.  For the guy who did it since that first episode IMDB credits Keith Michael Richardson, who can do a similar voice.

[zuludelta]

One of the best episodes in the series so far. One of the best things the writers do here (besides creating concise, updated classic Spidey plots that Bendis wishes he wrote for Ultimate Spider-Man) is writing intelligent dialogue that sounds natural coming from teens. A lot of comics and shows based on comics that feature teen protagonists suffer either from horrible inaccurate "kewl" dialogue or teens talking with all the inflections of adult speakers.

:spoiler:[spoiler]I love how the writers managed to update the classic Green Goblin story by reversing the Harry and Norman roles (for now, at least). The rivalry between Tombstone and the Green Goblin/Osbornes gives great logical grounding for why Spidey doesn't tell the authorities about Goblin's true identity (because if his ID ever became public knowledge, Tombstone would put out a hit on Harry). It's also great that the writers managed to work in the classic "Harry on LSD" non-Comics Code Authority approved story from the 1970s (a well-meaning but treacly Stan Lee project), but substituting the Green Goblin formula for LSD, of course, while doing a more authentic treatment of the pressures that lead to teens self-medicating with drugs and not getting all too preachy (trust me, nothing turns off the pre-teen kid viewer like the feeling that they're being lectured to). And while I've never been a fan of Venom or the symbiote stories (Although I do dig the black Spidey look), the way they introduced the symbiote in this episode at least grows organically from the running subplots, instead of being horribly shoehorned in like they did in the comics and in the recent movie. Also makes me wonder if the Space Shuttle incident will play into any future John Jameson as Man-Wolf appearances.[/spoiler]

I know it's still early in the show's lifespan, but at this point, I'm ready to put this up there with the best comics-based shows on TV, right behind the early Batman:TAS, on par with the second season of Justice League Unlimited, and well ahead of the early Teen Titans and X-Men: Evolution.

[Podmark]

Is Keith David back in the newest episode?  Because in the episode where we learn who the "Big Man" was, it wasn't him doing the voice.  For the guy who did it since that first episode IMDB credits Keith Michael Richardson, who can do a similar voice.

It was definitely David in the first one, after that I didn't really notice a chance. That kinda depresses me if they did switch it.

[Glitch Girl]

:spoiler:[spoiler]I love how the writers managed to update the classic Green Goblin story by reversing the Harry and Norman roles (for now, at least). The rivalry between Tombstone and the Green Goblin/Osbornes gives great logical grounding for why Spidey doesn't tell the authorities about Goblin's true identity (because if his ID ever became public knowledge, Tombstone would put out a hit on Harry). It's also great that the writers managed to work in the classic "Harry on LSD" non-Comics Code Authority approved story from the 1970s (a well-meaning but treacly Stan Lee project), but substituting the Green Goblin formula for LSD, of course, while doing a more authentic treatment of the pressures that lead to teens self-medicating with drugs and not getting all too preachy (trust me, nothing turns off the pre-teen kid viewer like the feeling that they're being lectured to). And while I've never been a fan of Venom or the symbiote stories (Although I do dig the black Spidey look), the way they introduced the symbiote in this episode at least grows organically from the running subplots, instead of being horribly shoehorned in like they did in the comics and in the recent movie. Also makes me wonder if the Space Shuttle incident will play into any future John Jameson as Man-Wolf appearances.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]
While I wish they had managed to expand the Green Goblin story a little longer, I gotta agree with ZD on a lot of points - the drug aspect wasn't hammered too hard or too preachy, the logic behind not revealing Green Goblin's true identity as Harry made sense, and some really solid writing and action. Tombstone... gads I can't get enough of this character.  His whole rapport with Hammerhead is great, even with the whole bit about the fake jump drive.
[/spoiler]

Really REALLY loved how they handled the Captain Jamison storyline in this - J Johnah Jamison gets to have more than the "blustering blowhard" aspect that we see so much, and he's getting some good motivation to dislike Spidey in the process.  Obviously, they're doing the symbiote storyline soon, but it would be cool if they did the werewolf-by-night story as well.  And they might - I'm amazed at how much groundwork they've laid.

[thanoson]

Is there a place I can see these episodes on the net?

[detourne_me]

I really wish I set up a list early on to guess how many plot threads/cameos there will be...

[spoiler]now off the top of my head we saw:
symbiote storyline - maybe Eddie as Venom later
a glimpse of the Black Cat (!!!)
Ned Lee (whose arrogance is building slightly, as we just saw in this last episode)
John Jameson... maybe man-wolf...
maybe a Hobie Brown/Prowler filler episode
The inhibitor that was stolen from Oscorp [/spoiler]

[Talavar]

I've only seen up to the Doc Ock episode, and I didn't realize it until he started doing his villain-voice, but whoever's doing Doc Ock is totally X the Eliminator from Harvey Birdman.  I was just waiting for him to scream about trying to get Birdman's crest!

[zuludelta]

Well, the black symbiote costume finally makes its debut.

This is probably the point where the series will either lose me or make me a dyed-in-the-wool fan. I absolutely despise the Venom stories in the late 1980s/early 1990s Spider-Man comics. Not because I don't like the character or the concept of the organic alien costume per se (I'm actually a fan of the black costume "look"), but the introduction of Venom pretty much heralded some of the worst writing in the Spidey books, with Todd McFarlane's adjectiveless Spider-Man series being the cherry turd on top of the crappy comic sundae that was the early 1990s Spider-Man family of books.

If Greg Weisman can reinterpret those stories as well as he has the previous ones he's mined for this show, he'll have made me a satisfied viewer (the way he's introduced Eddie Brock early on as a fully-fleshed out, three-dimensional supporting character leads me to think that this will probably be the best interpretation of Venom yet in any media).

:spoiler:

[spoiler]All in all, a good episode despite my nagging doubts about whether or not Weisman can pull off a good Venom story. The romantic tension between Black Cat and Spider-Man was well-done, we get to see a pre-Mysterio Quentin Beck and pre-Tinkerer Phineas Mason as The Chameleon's henchmen (thus continuing the show's trend of introducing the characters as "people" first, superheroes/villains second, in the tradition of Stan Lee's Spider-man comics), the Lizard/Spider-man fight was chock-full of pulse-pounding action (although the direction lost me on a couple of weirdly framed scenes)... almost too much violence in that fight for a Saturday morning cartoon (but hey, I'm not complaining)... and another nod to old-school comic book fans (Spider-man with his arm in a sling fighting Lizard was a classic story in 1967's Amazing Spider-Man #45).[/spoiler]

[Previsionary]

Is there a place I can see these episodes on the net?

Last I checked, some episodes where up on veoh, but I don't know how long that'll last. Also, I think Kids WB! has a streaming service. Last I checked, it had the jetsons, Batman Beyond, and static shock up (IE: all the dc shows they used to air), but it was in beta mode. I don't know about now. It might also be on the CW streaming site meaning you'll have to use their blah service.

[thanoson]

You tube has some up. Saw the black Cat/suit episode. Really good I thought.

[Mystik]

http://www.spectacular-spider-man.info/ you can watch it there

[TheMarvell]

you know, even though I still really don't like the animation style of this series (the eyes especially. Blegh), after watching a few of the episodes I've found it surprisingly entertaining. Thanks for posting that link to all the episodes so-far. I'll have to get caught up. I will say though that sometimes the episodes move incredibly fast, but it's not too bad. I will always love the 90's Spider-Man the best, but after giving this one a second chance I'm finding it to be a great follow-up. Certainly better than the short-lived Spider-Man Unlimited.

[Mystik]

really excited about the next episode here's the descrip:

Spider-Man is in trouble when Doctor Octopus, Electro, Shocker, Vulture, Rhino, and Sandman band together to take him on as the Sinister Six. However, he has the black suit and the Black Cat to help him

[TheMarvell]

when does the show air?