Watchmen Movie

[Jakew]

There is only one way to resolve this.

I propose an arm-wrestle in Shibuya, Tokyo, in two weeks time. Winner take all.  :D

[TheMarvell]

 :P Sounds good to me. We'll just have to agree to disagree, but agree that Moore has some great stories. His newest one - the borderline pornographic one - just sounds too bizarre to me, lol.

[Jakew]

Yeah, man ... I love Moore's stuff but I haven't bothered to pick up his recent Lost Girls (the porn one), League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier, Promethea etc. He's in his own world at the moment  :wacko:

I think my favourite stuff of his is probably Top Ten, for some reason. V for Vendetta, Watchmen and From Hell were all epic (From Hell is a REALLY impressively researched book), but Top Ten is a fun little comic, and his writing works beautifully with Gene Ha.

[House Quake]

Never read the graphic novel... But I rank the movie , V for Vendetta, among my favorites of all time.  Whatever chaanges they made worked on myself and a lot of people who never read the graphic novel to begin with.

Some times I think that a problem exist with people who read a book athen watch the movie.  They expect to see what they read and when they don't they will often say the movie sucked because it wasn't true to the book.  When in fact the movie may have been a good movie and well liked by many.

Moore does come across as some what... odd.

[Previsionary]

Never read the graphic novel... But I rank the movie , V for Vendetta, among my favorites of all time.  Whatever chaanges they made worked on myself and a lot of people who never read the graphic novel to begin with.

Some times I think that a problem exist with people who read a book athen watch the movie.  They expect to see what they read and when they don't they will often say the movie sucked because it wasn't true to the book.  When in fact the movie may have been a good movie and well liked by many.

This is how I feel as well, HQ. Whenever I plan to watch a comic movie I've never read, I hold off on checking the book out until after I see the movie so that I don't make unfair and obviously biased opinions by comparing mediums right off the back.

[Podmark]

I'm reading the trade now. I got it because it's supposed to be a classic and the trailer got me really interested, and...I'm really enjoying it. Looking forward to the movie.

[MJB]

The original maxi-series was dubbed "classic" for a reason. Each and every comic fan out there owes it to themselves to at least read the trade.

Admittedly the trade is not for everyone but it is one great read if you have an open mind.

-MJB

[Jakew]

Well, Alan Moore was optimistic about a Watchmen movie once.....

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/mwop/moviefile/2008/10/alan-moore-endorsed-watchmen-m.php

[The Enigma]

I read the Sam Hamm script (it's around on the intertubes if you're willing to look. I think it's even linked in the article Jakew posted) and was so disappointed. Apart from completely changing the plot and especially the ending, it completely lacked the style and feel of Moore's work. I can understand why Moore, too, felt disappointed. If the guy you think can really do your work justice butchers it like Hamm did then being a bit jaded when the next guy comes along is fair enough. David Hayter's script is not as bad, but the messing around with time periods for what seems like no good reason irritated me.

[steamteck]

So have you read LXG,  as well as seen the respective movie version?

Not to get into this BUT ,I tried to read LXG because I liked the movie so much but Moore seemed to "get" the characters I remembered so much less than the screen version, I couldn't finish the series.

[laughing paradox]

Here's a link to a NEW Watchmen trailer.

http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/10/22/must-watch-watchmen-footage-from-the-scream-awards/

[Figure Fan]

:blink:

Looks pretty awesome.

[MJB]

That scene where Doc Manhattan takes the tank apart... :thumbup:

-MJB

[Jakew]

I liked the Nite Owl / Laurie / nuclear explosion scene. I'm glad they included that.

AND the giant Dr Manhattan hand crashing through the skylight at Karnak.

I really like how Snyder is cutting together some cool scenes from the comic for his trailers. He's a canny guy.

[House Quake]

Not sure if this was posted... but here is some Watchmen goodies up on Yahoo

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808406490/video/10658091

[Podmark]

I just finished the graphic novel the other day. All set and excited for the movie.

[UnkoMan]

I'm glad the talk of Alan Moore is done now, although I was going to show this interview. Still... Leaving it alone is nice.

As to the movie... I noticed that every single voice sounds weird to me, and not like I imagined them at all. I'm not the sort who usually gets this sensation, although I have often been told of it. Now I know how it feels. A little unsettling.

I also wonder if all this random slow motion stuff is going to be infesting the movie, or if it was simply done for the trailers.

But I keep sounding too hard on it. I mean my next statement was going to be "Even if it is terrible at least we know it is going to make a ton of money... will this entice hollywood into making a sequel?"

I don't mean to sound bleak though! I really am exciting and cannot wait for this to open. I will, most likely, see it opening night. Horray! Epic! I hope they make a longer version for the DVD, no matter how long the theatrical version is!

[Podmark]

Was reading an interview yesterday (which I don't have the link to off hand) where the director said he expects the theatrical version to be about 2 hours and 40 mins, the Directors cut DVD will be over 3 hours, and there will be a Black Freighter version that integrates the short film into the main movie which is supposed to be almost 4 hours.

[Jakew]

So, as shown in the second trailer, it looks there is now a superhero team made up of The Comedian, Dr Manhattan, Silk Spectre, Nite Owl, Ozymandias and Rorscharch, called "The Watchmen" (I'm still wondering what the point of that is?). Which is totally new and never happened in the comic.

It also looks the original ending has been changed to the long rumoured new ending.

Um....  :blink: I know certain adjustments have to made for comic-to-film, but the adjustments are starting to add up into V For Vendetta territory.

[The Hitman]

So, as shown in the second trailer, it looks there is now a superhero team made up of The Comedian, Dr Manhattan, Silk Spectre, Nite Owl, Ozymandias and Rorscharch, called "The Watchmen" (I'm still wondering what the point of that is?). Which is totally new and never happened in the comic.

Actually, it looks like they took the team that Captain Metropolis tried to put together about halfway through the book, and renamed it The Watchmen. That's not a big deal to me.

[bredon7777]

It also looks the original ending has been changed to the long rumoured new ending.

a) What new ending?

b) [spoiler]
From the trailer alone, there are several elements of the graphic novel ending that seem to be intact
- The devastation of NY when the thing gets teleported in
- Jon's giant hand crashing through the skylight of Karnak
- Jon's disintegration of Rorshach
[/spoiler]

Not sure what you're seeing- care to explain?

[Podmark]

Here's what I've heard about the ending:

[spoiler]The squid has been removed. Something else will replace it in the story. Someone, I think Lying In the Gutters, said that the threat would be Dr. Manhatten that the world rallies against. But the squid seems to definitely be removed from the finished film, supposedly because a mainstream audience wouldn't find it believable. It was modelled though. [/spoiler]

[ow_tiobe_sb]

Grrrrr.... *gnaws on stress/chew toy*

ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning

[Jakew]

Actually, it looks like they took the team that Captain Metropolis tried to put together about halfway through the book, and renamed it The Watchmen. That's not a big deal to me.

Yeah, but it looks they actually BECAME a team, as opposed to that single Crimbusters meeting. Just like in the *shudder* Sam Hamm "It's the Godamn Watchmen" script. Silk Spectre II and The Comedian working side by side? Um...

As for the ending:

[spoiler]Apparently it's been changed so that, instead of the alien, Veidt shoots a satellite laser with Dr Manhattan's energy signature into New York. Thus the world rallies together to defend the planet against Dr Manhattan[/spoiler]

[bredon7777]

Words cannot express how badly those ending rumors best not be true.  It will destroy the entire movie if they are.

[TheMarvell]

Although I haven't read the book (yet), me thinks I've already spoiled myself way too much by reading this thread and glimpsing at spoiler territory. Damn my curiosity.  :doh:

[Figure Fan]

Although I haven't read the book (yet), me thinks I've already spoiled myself way too much by reading this thread and glimpsing at spoiler territory. Damn my curiosity.  :doh:

What are you waiting for? Haha!

Yeah, AVOID AVOID these threads if you haven't read the book. For goodness sake, man!

[BentonGrey]

I don't know...while I don't see any real reason to change that part of the story, the Dr. Manhattan angle fits surprisingly well.  I think it would be better unchanged, but at least that actually makes sense, story wise.  Still, it does make me nervous about what else they might change.

[The Hitman]

My feelings exactly, BG.

[Podmark]

The interview I read with Synder seemed to imply that was the only major change. And yes Bredon it seems very much that it is true.