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Daredevil vs Bullseye/Daredevil vs Mr Hyde

Started by Outcast, September 28, 2007, 07:51:23 AM

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Outcast

If you were to make a Bullseye hero file, since he hardly ever misses per se,how would you make it? Then if Daredevil is the only one who had ever made Bullseye miss,how should Daredevil's hero file look like? Also,most of the villains Daredevil usually encounters in the comics are thugs,goons, and ninjas. Rarely, those super powered villain types. The only one that i think comes close to being a super powered villain is Mr. Hyde. Mr Hyde is strong and resistant to physical damage right? So, given that Daredevil has beaten him in the past,i'm curious as to how to simulate this in FF.How would Daredevil's hero file look like now? As well as Mr Hyde's? :huh: I really wish the comics would give Daredevil more challenging villains to fight, rather than just the Kingpin,thugs,ninjas,etc. :angry:

wickerman

As with most files - it's all relative.  Yes Bullseye is insanely accurate, and yes Daredevil is shown to be the guy who can dodge his attacks - at least in DD comics.  The marvel universe has lots of folks in it that have DD's level of spped/agility - and then some.

if DD can dodge Bullseye's throws, so can Gambit, nightcrawler, spider-man. quicksilver, cap america and some others without even getting into the Sentry-types.

That said, it depends on what you are looking for - a DD file that is reflective of his ability in contrast to Bullseye or in contrast to everyone else you have for the MU on you FF herofile list.

I go for the latter.

My Daredevil is something like:

Strength - 3
Speed - 4
Agility - 6
Endurance - 4
Energy - 4

he has nimble and danger sense (among other things - none of which affect his ability to dodge Bullseye)

Bullseye has similar stats and a bunch of very high accuracy projectiles - shurikens, grenades etc

All in all, my daredevil can beat him hand to hand, but generally loses int he ranged combat department.

I know almost nothing about MR Hyde, so I am no help there.

TaskMasterX

Wickerman makes a good point on DD. As for Mr. Hyde, he's basically a big brute. His Strength is about the same as Rogue's or one of the Asgardians (Loki, Heimdall,etc.). He's pretty tough, too, and is probably as resistant to damage as Rogue and the Asgardians as well. When it comes to fighting, he's just a brawler, using his brute Strength to smash foes rather than relying on any skill.
DD would probably have a tough time hurting Mr Hyde but Mr Hyde would probably have a harder time laying a hand on DD, so after enough hits, DD will make Mr Hyde fall. As for the reason why DD doesn't fight tougher/stronger foes is because it would be hard to explain how DD could beat such a foe, and possibly, Marvel doesn't want to make it hard on us to convert hero files  ;)

Outcast

Quote from: wickerman on October 02, 2007, 08:02:19 PM
As with most files - it's all relative.  Yes Bullseye is insanely accurate, and yes Daredevil is shown to be the guy who can dodge his attacks - at least in DD comics.  The marvel universe has lots of folks in it that have DD's level of spped/agility - and then some.

if DD can dodge Bullseye's throws, so can Gambit, nightcrawler, spider-man. quicksilver, cap america and some others without even getting into the Sentry-types.

That said, it depends on what you are looking for - a DD file that is reflective of his ability in contrast to Bullseye or in contrast to everyone else you have for the MU on you FF herofile list.

I go for the latter.

My Daredevil is something like:

Strength - 3
Speed - 4
Agility - 6
Endurance - 4
Energy - 4

he has nimble and danger sense (among other things - none of which affect his ability to dodge Bullseye)

Bullseye has similar stats and a bunch of very high accuracy projectiles - shurikens, grenades etc

All in all, my daredevil can beat him hand to hand, but generally loses int he ranged combat department.

I know almost nothing about MR Hyde, so I am no help there.

Thanks for the feedback Wickerman. But wouldn't nimble increase DD's agility and in turn increase his ability to dodge Bullseye? Danger sense would make grant DD the ability to dodge attacks from behind.

Also, naturally since DD is blind. It only makes sense to give him a blind attribute. But, this in turn would give him some penalties in terms of dodging and slow the speed of his melee attacks. Right? Which shouldn't be for DD's case i'm presuming. Does the Danger sense attribute totally negates/offsets the effects of the Blind attribute? Or would it be better of not to give him the blind attribute all together?

Oh, and how many weapons/attacks did you give your Bullseye? How many kinds of weapons did you give him? Shurikens,grenades,and....guns?cards?knives?  :P


Quote from: TaskMasterX on October 03, 2007, 06:20:37 AM
Wickerman makes a good point on DD. As for Mr. Hyde, he's basically a big brute. His Strength is about the same as Rogue's or one of the Asgardians (Loki, Heimdall,etc.). He's pretty tough, too, and is probably as resistant to damage as Rogue and the Asgardians as well. When it comes to fighting, he's just a brawler, using his brute Strength to smash foes rather than relying on any skill.
DD would probably have a tough time hurting Mr Hyde but Mr Hyde would probably have a harder time laying a hand on DD, so after enough hits, DD will make Mr Hyde fall. As for the reason why DD doesn't fight tougher/stronger foes is because it would be hard to explain how DD could beat such a foe, and possibly, Marvel doesn't want to make it hard on us to convert hero files  ;)

Good point TaskMasterX. DD is afterall just human.  ^_^ Nevertheless, that's what makes him more appealing to us DD fans. Eventhough sometimes the odds are totally against DD, he still manages to escape and win in the end. That only shows how much courage he has. THE MAN WITHOUT FEAR.   :cool:

Panther_Gunn

Quote from: Outcast on October 03, 2007, 07:42:44 AMAlso, naturally since DD is blind. It only makes sense to give him a blind attribute. But, this in turn would give him some penalties in terms of dodging and slow the speed of his melee attacks. Right? Which shouldn't be for DD's case i'm presuming. Does the Danger sense attribute totally negates/offsets the effects of the Blind attribute? Or would it be better of not to give him the blind attribute all together?

With the way that all of his other senses have ramped up, there's really no need to give him blind, as he doesn't have any real disadvantages by not being able to see visually.  If it were a normal person who hadn't adapted to such an extreme degree, then the Blind attribute would work.

Outcast

Quote from: Panther_Gunn on October 03, 2007, 12:32:40 PM
With the way that all of his other senses have ramped up, there's really no need to give him blind, as he doesn't have any real disadvantages by not being able to see visually.  If it were a normal person who hadn't adapted to such an extreme degree, then the Blind attribute would work.

Thanks for the suggestion Panther.  :) I wasn't sure if it was ok, not to give DD the blind attribute. Thought it would be kind of cheating if i didn't give him that attribute. But since you put it that way... :D