working thread

[C4]

 :spoiler: This is the playtest and working thread for the Reformed mod to be released soon.  :spoiler:

Please if you want to enjoy the story don't check in this thread, rather wait for the offical announcement & release.

I would prefer only guys helping me to post here. But if you really can't wait so be it.

Okay to everyone helping me out you can post whatever you are busy with or want to discuss in here.

I have sent links via PM. This is the beta playtest to get feedback and give everyone a good idea what this mod is all about. There is no eye candy as yet so still many skins, artwork, loadingscreens, scopes, fx, head nifs etc must still be added. The scripting and story is close to final though & will be improved after feedback.

It is a Rar file with a shortcut inside. oh yeah like the current menu screen very much just a place holder until the real artists can create something.

[C4]

I added a patch that adds more music sent via pms

install over/after the original.

Here is some ideas I need input on:

1. I am considiring adding a biker goon to drive around town and attack you/the girl. I am sure this will be cool but I am afraid the mission is rather tough already so don't want to make it too hard.
2. I don't have a background track for the intro yet, any ideas? though a heartbeat sound is supposed to play on the red flashing portion I must still figure out why it does not want to play.
3. Would you guys like it if Avian where able to ride his harley in mission2 (something like the tank in  :ffvstr:) I am unsure if I want to spend the time on scripting this cause it will influence all the events. 

[Previsionary]

Well, I haven't really played it yet, but I ran into some problems which prevented me from doing much.

1. You'll probably want to make sure to warn US players that the game is currently configured for UK/DJ release versions of FFVTTR

2. That mission warp effect (render warp) really lagged my pc and I just cut it off during the first cutscene. That effect caused problems in the past, so you may wanna make a note about that in your readme.

3. Some minor grammatical/dialogue errors

I hope to have more for you later.

[C4]

>1. You'll probably want to make sure to warn US players that the game is currently configured for UK/DJ release versions of FFVTTR

Is the install path different or what differences are there?

>2. That mission warp effect (render warp) really lagged my pc and I just cut it off during the first cutscene. That effect caused problems in the past, so you may wanna make a note about that in your readme.

I could just post an extra download (removing it) for people who has problems with that.

[Previsionary]

>1. You'll probably want to make sure to warn US players that the game is currently configured for UK/DJ release versions of FFVTTR

Is the install path different or what differences are there?

The U.S. install path (and the budget UK release, iirc) is this by default: Program Files\Irrational Games\Freedom Force vs The 3rd Reich\

[C4]

here is a link for the US version:

http://starlockforfreedom.bravepages.com/mods/Reformed%20-%20US.rar

that is just the shortcut addition BTW

I will add the patch to remove dream/pulse wave effects as optional later. Though I hope this was not a problem for many
people since it is really cool.

And here is a link that removes dream/pulse wave effects
http://starlockforfreedom.bravepages.com/mods/Reformed%20-%20No%20Pulse%20waves.rar

[catwhowalksbyhimself]

I will add the patch to remove dream/pulse wave effects as optional later. Though I hope this was not a problem for many
people since it is really cool.

It's a HUGE problem for a lot of people, and will like keep the mission from running at all for a good number of folks.  I'd personally recommend not using it.

[C4]

Bummer.

Well if that is the case what I will do is to make the standard without it and add an optional patch to enable it for those that can enjoy it.

[Blkcasanova247]

Hey guys...here's a few of the characters designs I've been workin' on for C4. I'm actually gonna be redrawing a few if not all of em and finishing up the rest of the characters this week. After the holidays...I'll be working on the rest....Team Shots and action scenes for load screens...the works. So with no further commercial interuption...


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And there'll be a lot more coming.

[C4]

Thanks Cas

Ok for the guys who don't know who these people are:
(in short)

1. Avian

Leader of the team can heal anyone + fly

2. Silhouette

Can change into a smoke form

3. Double S

Minor time control abilities + gadgets

Villians:
4. Ruin

Feeds of pain & suffering, fire control

5. Rage

Can cause fear & rage, gains strength & toughness when he feeds of them.

[Volsung]

Huge mastery Blkcasanova247 ^^ As usual :thumbup:

[Blkcasanova247]

Ok...so here's another character design.....Feedback. Keep watching this space over the next few days...there's more comin'! :D

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Yeah...I know...she's...umm...plasticaly enhanced! :P[/spoiler]

[Mystik]

should i use powergirl for the base mesh? (the boobs)
still working on the others

[Volsung]

She's one of the baddies, right?!
That means I'm supposed to work on her!
Grrrrrrreat!


edit:Nice work Blkcasanova247! You'll have to discuss their colors with C4.

[Blkcasanova247]

Thanks Volsung and she is most definitely a bad girl. Designing her was an "enormous" undertaking! :P :lol: I'll pm C4 and copy you so that were on the same page. I'm finishing up Brace and starting Serengeti and also reworking Rage and Ruin. I'll work on these up till Christmas then not until January. After which I'll start on the load screens and title screen image.

[Volsung]

So I won't get necessarily all the instructions and content to work effectively during my own holidays? (partially exiled from internet).  :P
Anyway, like always, I clearly  overestimate the amount of work I'll be capable to enchain during those days of liberty. :rolleyes:

[C4]

should i use powergirl for the base mesh? (the boobs)

Sure. Though if it gives you any issues, use what is easiest. Not sure about the boots & jacket though. But for the hair maybe psylocke by ink or the detourne_me scope. Her animations will be energy projection based. Powerful force blasts.

[Volsung]

Which characters got their defined skoped mesh?

[C4]

Which characters got their defined skoped mesh?

Avian & Silhouette has scopes by BlkCasanova

Thor is busy with scopes for Ruin, Rage & Feedback

I must check with Carravagio if he is going to still do the Double S scope.

[C4]

To keep this neatly in one place instead of sending pms around:

Avian:
based on Blkcasanova247 sketches * / * blue jeans with either a brown leather jacket and brown shirt with a black raven printed on the front or a black leather jacket with a white shirt and a black raven printed. * / * Like a hard looking Milo Ventimiglia


http://www.motorhelmets.com/htm1/apparel-street-jackets-shift-mens-leather-m1.htm   jacket-black version
http://www.psndealer.com/powersportsdlr/images/ec0252/70039-001-XS.jpg  - added another link the above one is dead.

Silhouette:
based on Blkcasanova247 sketches * / * Clothes colored like pics  * / * like Lee Ann Liebenberg
She will have two skins. One with clothes like the pics & one in pure black smoke form.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=73427348

http://www.leeannliebenberg.com/

http://ninjamonkeys.co.za/2007/03/30/beautiful_south_africans_lee_ann_liebenb/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7895835@N05/486377348/

Double S:
based on Blkcasanova247 sketches * / * His Sunglasses & Logo - Blue. The rest of the clothes various shades of brown.

http://starlockforfreedom.bravepages.com/mods/ff_timeAnim_01.tga
for logo colouring just blue

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/gallery/summer_music/chris_brown.jpg

Ruin:
based on Blkcasanova247 sketches * / * Clothes colored with a predominance of black with flames * / * No real person as reference

I think the face Casanova drew is perfect.

Rage:
based on Blkcasanova247 sketches * / * Clothes colored with a predominance of black and coloured purple. More detail: A black shirt with the word RAGE on his back in purple. A gray themed pants.

http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/drogba.jpg

Feedback:
based on Blkcasanova247 sketches * / * She got dynamic blue eyes & blue hair 
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3625/copyofkhadija1mc.jpg    -   face & skin colour

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/1412/_1122995144.jpg  - eyes

for clothes colours I was thinking of a black & blue theme with silver / platinum jewelry.

Minx:
no sketches. French Female – Seductive

Can release A chemical substance that enduce a drugged like state in a foe. This substance mixed with her pheromones can completely chance the way males perceive events around them to the point that she can control them.

Want her costume to be something like this but without the belt also other boots:
http://www.victorinelingerie.com/sedevdrescoc.html

She can look something like this:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dsfp%26p%3Dseductive%2Bcocktail%2Bdress&w=238&h=311&imgurl=www.shopdress.com%2Fstores%2Fshopdress%2Fcatalog%2FM58-1.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shopdress.com%2FDetail.bok%3Fno%3D166&size=42.6kB&name=M58-1.jpg&p=seductive+cocktail+dress&type=jpeg&no=6&tt=9&oid=a114ee382832609e&ei=UTF-8


Serengeti:
no sketches. * / * a Ndebele with authentic clothes  * / * colours as pics - though maybe I will prefer a white, red & brown colour scheme for him.

http://images.google.co.za/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=af&q=Michael+Clarke+Duncan&btnG=Soek+Prente

And remember he will have a standard skin plus four animal skins with aspects from them.   

Would like him to wear a shirt like this:

http://www.rebirth.co.za/images/MOH_1230.jpg

A hat like this but just with colours to match the shirt

http://www.rebirth.co.za/images/Africanhat_OMA_2483.jpg

and arm bands like these, Woman on way left.

http://www.rebirth.co.za/images/traditionalNdebeleclothing.jpg



Vista:
no sketches * / * clothes undefined * / * like Miguel Ferrer

The clothes I was thinking off was a suit. With maybe a rings type logo on the tie.

Brace:
no sketches * / * clothes mixed between modern clothes and retro Chinese. * / * like Kelly Hu

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PF/PF_990632_OEM_15MB~Kelly-Hu-Posters.jpg

one or two pics about the clothes.
http://starlockforfreedom.bravepages.com/Psywallshadow.jpg
most left

http://starlockforfreedom.bravepages.com/mods/Final_FireEmblem_GS_Skin.jpg
Girl on right

The colour theme might be red & black, green & black.

edit added the two crime lords & angel:
Angel - A white male with spiky/messed up brown hair, blue yes, friendly looking.

Wearing a trenchcoat. with an all white theme like this middle dude:
http://thecia.com.au/reviews/r/images/rush-hour-3-2.jpg

maybe a glowing halo like Carr did. or glowing effect.


Crime lord 1 - An 40 year old black male he is the head of the deadly talon crime syndicate. Has a custom talon / claw on his right hand. 

Crime lord 2 - Two versions first is just a white male in his mid fifties, overweight/tummy
beard, in a suit.

Second version is after his accident his whole skin is burned/scarred that he can no longer feel, smell or taste. but his sight & hearing has reached superhuman levels. He is the leader of the howling wolf crime syndicate.

Oh yes there is two syndicates Howling wolf & Deadly talon, their members wear a tattoo that show they belong to this syndicate. I think these will do:
http://www.imagemotorcycle.com/products/LOGO2.gif 
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/904581/2/istockphoto_904581_howling_wolf_icon.jpg - just the wolf head.

[Blkcasanova247]

Coolness C4....thanks for the color references..I needed 'em. Minx....hmm...I shouldn't have any trouble sketching yet another hot girl for this mod. :P :lol:

[C4]

Coolness C4....thanks for the color references..I needed 'em. Minx....hmm...I shouldn't have any trouble sketching yet another hot girl for this mod.

Hehe.. yup makes me wonder if maybe there are too many  :mellow:

I will add more detail on the colouring through the night. Just have to do some pic searching.

[Volsung]

During my holidays i'm going to focus on Ruin,Rage and Feedback.
For now I can't predict my productivity. It will depends of the family laptop availability.
Blkcasanova247 can you had color hints on your sketches according to C4 wishes?

[Blkcasanova247]

Absolutely. I should also have a couple of things done tomorrow....my first day off in the last 2 months. :wacko:

[Blkcasanova247]

There's no such thing as "too" many hot girls. Keep adding 'em and I'll keep adding 'em to my "to-do" list. :P :lol:

[Blkcasanova247]

Ok...so I'm gonna be posting a little later on a slight redesign for Rage. After looking at my previous drawing I felt that I could do a little better...so that's what this redesign will do. I'll probably do slight tweaks to the other character designs I have finished but not so much that they're comletely different. Sorry if this throws a spanner in the works....but I really want to do it right for the mod so that'll be as cool as possible.

[Volsung]

The laptop is quite slow and awry, I hope that won't be that incapacitating.
Blkcasanova247 I hope we'll see your definitive design (with color info) pretty soon!
Thor? You're working on the scopes of Ruin, Rage and Feedback?
Can I quickly get them once they're finished?

[Mystik]

yea as soon as casanova posts the new rage

[Volsung]

You hear that casanova?  ;) I need to creaaate!

[Blkcasanova247]

Will do fellas. I got called into work the last 2 days and I'm workin today....tomorrow I'll be sedating myself with booze and cooking all day but wednesday I'll have him all done and off to Juancho for color (Yeah! :lol: Casanova/Juancho productios is back baby!) with the other completed designs. If I do say myself....the new version is pretty cool. :thumbup: More tatts...bigger muscles and a real big knife! Thor I think you'll need to investigate a new 3ds knife once you see the new sketch!