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Started by BentonGrey, February 09, 2008, 08:45:53 AM

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BentonGrey

Howdy guys, I've been fooling around with Nifskope a little more, and I was playing with TJ's Antman mesh.  I wanted to replace Antman with Tommy's Bug-Eyed Bandit.  Everything worked perfectly in adding Tommy's mesh in the place of TJ's, but I can't see ANYTHING in Ctool except for the ant that shows up in hover mode.  Can anyone give me any pointers here?

detourne_me

it's really tricky when skoping TJ's size changing meshes because he made those meshes before the knowledge of size-changing keyframes was available (IE Valandar's and Tommyboy's size changing keyts... although Renegade did that in his Atom mesh)
TJ's meshes have scaling bodies, like a male_basic, a male_tiny and a male_giant.  so when you skope them,  you need to skope all the parts to be the right size,  for each part of the mesh.

so you could skope the bug eyed bandit stuff for the male basic portion.  but then you would need to scale down all of the extras, and attach them direrctly to the bones of the established Male_basic and male_tiny.  the reason for this is that the keyframes call up specific bones to be scaled.  and well just skoping on pieces normally wont work.

I've tried quite a few times to get the bobby69 antman mesh onto TJ's without avail

GGiant

Actually it's just like the wolverine_tj, my trick is to rename the bones so that only one of them is followed.
for example,
the bip 01 of wolverine or (the one that male_basic bones follow first because they are first listed before colossus bones) on the wolverine tj mesh was rename bip 012 and as the other bones was renamed by adding one so that I can replace colossus' place, i've done it, and replaced colossus with beast, and it really is time consuming, I don't know if I'm the first to figure this out but, feel free to try this trick. :D

BentonGrey

Well DM, I'm afraid that can't be the entire problem, as I can't see the human figure in his small or large incarnation.  I can see the ant during flying animations in the CTool, but I can never see the his rider.

Haha, well GGiant, I'm afraid I only understood half of that!

GGiant

Quote from: BentonGrey on February 09, 2008, 06:02:14 PM
Well DM, I'm afraid that can't be the entire problem, as I can't see the human figure in his small or large incarnation.  I can see the ant during flying animations in the CTool, but I can never see the his rider.

Haha, well GGiant, I'm afraid I only understood half of that!
Sorry, it's because of my explaining!
I'm making the skope you wanted right now, but I think it will disrespect you if I release it or preview it because it was your idea.
I'll try to make a tutorial for it in the future though.

BentonGrey

Quote from: GGiant on February 09, 2008, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 09, 2008, 06:02:14 PM
Well DM, I'm afraid that can't be the entire problem, as I can't see the human figure in his small or large incarnation.  I can see the ant during flying animations in the CTool, but I can never see the his rider.

Haha, well GGiant, I'm afraid I only understood half of that!
Sorry, it's because of my explaining!
I'm making the skope you wanted right now, but I think it will disrespect you if I release it or preview it because it was your idea.
I'll try to make a tutorial for it in the future though.

Haha, hardly!  Please, feel free to show me up!   :thumbup:  Be my guest to preview or release it.  It's fine by me, and all that really matters is that it gets done. ^_^

GGiant

Quote from: BentonGrey on February 09, 2008, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: GGiant on February 09, 2008, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: BentonGrey on February 09, 2008, 06:02:14 PM
Well DM, I'm afraid that can't be the entire problem, as I can't see the human figure in his small or large incarnation.  I can see the ant during flying animations in the CTool, but I can never see the his rider.

Haha, well GGiant, I'm afraid I only understood half of that!
Sorry, it's because of my explaining!
I'm making the skope you wanted right now, but I think it will disrespect you if I release it or preview it because it was your idea.
I'll try to make a tutorial for it in the future though.

Haha, hardly!  Please, feel free to show me up!   :thumbup:  Be my guest to preview or release it.  It's fine by me, and all that really matters is that it gets done. ^_^
Hmm.....Thanks, do you want him to shrink while he's riding the fly?

BentonGrey

Yeah, if it's not too much trouble GG, I already skoped a smaller version of him.  If you want it, let me know and I'll send you what I have.  I'd basically just like him to be able act like Antman.

GGiant

GRAH! I swear I don't know what did I do wrong! :(
It came out with two bug eyed bandits appearing! :(

GGiant

I realized what I did wrong, and I'm gonna fix it soon. :D
EDIT:
It seems I have to redo the whole thing. :o :(

BentonGrey

Bummer man!  Let me know if there is anything I can do to help!