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Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2: Fusion

Started by TheMarvell, February 11, 2008, 10:10:06 PM

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tommyboy

It won't happen, but I would want MUA2 to follow the spider-man/GTA/Oblivion model, and give you a sandbox city/world to play in, where you can choose to follow the pre-scripted plot(s), and/or just kill time playing side quests, random encounters and odd little trophy races and accomplishments.
That, and some thought to mod-ability. That the first game got modded in anyway was close to miraculous given how hermetically sealed it is. If you can add in characters then you don't disappoint anyone by leaving out their favourite.
None of which is likely, but I can dream...

BentonGrey

Yeah Tommy, some modability, especially the ability to create new campaigns, would be absolutely incredible.  I love MUA a great deal, and your character mods have added a lot of replayability, but I'm getting tired of the campaign by now.

crimsonquill

Breaking news on MUA2 and a few other Activision games:
Source: http://www.newsarama.com/games/080616-UltAllianceGames.html

Will There Be An Ultimate Alliance Civil War? And A Game With Spidey Vs Zombies?!?!?

QuoteIntellisponse, a survey and research company, regularly works with game companies to feel out upcoming games, and see what features gamers are most interested in. This past weekend, however, they inadvertently announced several upcoming games. Thanks to the folks at Neogaf.com, we’ve been tipped to a lot of information from these leaks. All news derived from this will be treated as rumor for now, but Newsarama has reached out to confirm it.

First, the previously announced Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 (MUA2) from Activision had new details leaked. The biggest is the storyline; according to the information in the Intellisponse document, MUA2 will take place in Marvel Civil War. Players will take one side or the other, with over 20 characters to choose from. Fusing powers will be a new feature, building on the combo system seen in the previous game (and the X-Men Legends series). The example given is lightning webs, from fusing Spider-man and Storm’s abilities. The other characters mentioned in the release are Hulk, Wolverine, Venom, and the Human Torch. That makes it sound like the Thunderbolts will be involved. Of course, readers know Hulk was not involved in Civil War at all, so some liberties are being taken. Now word yet on who is writing the script this time around (C.B. Cebulski wrote the previous game), nor if Raven Software, who developed the last three games, is taking the reins again. As soon as that is confirmed, you will see it here. The game is due out for Playstation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, PS2, PSP, and DS.

In addition to Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, the next next Spider-man game, after this fall’s Web of Shadows, will allegedly be entitled Spider-man vs. Marvel Zombies. The game is said to take place in a possible future, 2149, where Marvel heroes and villains have become zombies. Spidey’s mission is to defeat the zombie horde, OR join it, implying there will be multiple choices as far as gameplay goes. It will continue the open-world style of the last few Spider-man games, as well.

Rounding up the super-heroic rumors from this massive leak, we saw a few other bits. A Spider-man game for Wii using the balance board peripheral from Wii Fit promises to let you “step into Spider-man’s shoes.” Possible cover art for the aforementioned spider-man: Web of Shadows shows guest appearances by Venom and Wolverine (in addition to the already known Luke Cage, amongst others), and implies the player can choose to save the city or take it over, depending on costume choice (the red-and-blues or the symbiote). Last but not least, Powers and Titans a game that sounds reminiscent of MMORPG City of Heroes, but with a more action oriented slant, allowing console gamers to form their own team of the planet’s greatest heroes.

Activision certainly seems to be taking full advantage of their super-heroic tendencies. They’ve had several monetary hits in their previous outings, with most being well received by critics and fans. Time will tell if all of these pan out as full-fledged games, and when they’ll actually be coming to our homes.

- CrimsonQuill

NeoDarke

Quote from: crimsonquill on June 16, 2008, 02:53:36 PM
Breaking news on MUA2 and a few other Activision games:
Source: http://www.newsarama.com/games/080616-UltAllianceGames.html

Will There Be An Ultimate Alliance Civil War? And A Game With Spidey Vs Zombies?!?!?

QuoteIntellisponse, a survey and research company, regularly works with game companies to feel out upcoming games, and see what features gamers are most interested in. This past weekend, however, they inadvertently announced several upcoming games. Thanks to the folks at Neogaf.com, we've been tipped to a lot of information from these leaks. All news derived from this will be treated as rumor for now, but Newsarama has reached out to confirm it.

First, the previously announced Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 (MUA2) from Activision had new details leaked. The biggest is the storyline; according to the information in the Intellisponse document, MUA2 will take place in Marvel Civil War. Players will take one side or the other, with over 20 characters to choose from. Fusing powers will be a new feature, building on the combo system seen in the previous game (and the X-Men Legends series). The example given is lightning webs, from fusing Spider-man and Storm's abilities. The other characters mentioned in the release are Hulk, Wolverine, Venom, and the Human Torch. That makes it sound like the Thunderbolts will be involved. Of course, readers know Hulk was not involved in Civil War at all, so some liberties are being taken. Now word yet on who is writing the script this time around (C.B. Cebulski wrote the previous game), nor if Raven Software, who developed the last three games, is taking the reins again. As soon as that is confirmed, you will see it here. The game is due out for Playstation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, PS2, PSP, and DS.

- CrimsonQuill

Wait, MUA:2=M:CW? Fail... Epic fail... Lord was CW stupid and pointless.

Previsionary

We all know X-men legends and MUA don't follow any story exactly and they always mix in other elements. CW being the basis is a pretty ok move as the story wasn't exactly ridiculous if you factor out writer problems with personalities and motivation. It was basically a broader version of the mutant registration act and I recall that story being much better. The general idea behind Civil War has been done several times before including in JSA and Watchmen, so let's not judge until we get more details

P.S. CW was stupid, yes, but not pointless. That story is still playing out so it obviously had a point and conveniently tied into skrull madness. -_-

lugaru

While a lot of people who like to complain on the internet used Civil War as a chance to complain on the internet, it did bring in a lot of new readership and personally I found myself enjoying it a lot (I've always been a present day and politics fanboy moreso than a golden age and heroism fanboy).

And as a game mechanic, two dueling groups of heroes with villains being recruited and a clone thor... I think it would make a rocking game.

tommyboy

Quote:
"The game is due out for Playstation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, PS2, PSP, and DS."
Am I the only one perturbed and a bit angry that the PC is getting the shaft, yet again?
And a choice of "over 20 characters" implies only as many to choose from as were in MUA1, which is also a big disappointment.
Others assume that it means 20+ per side, but I think it means either 10-15 per side, or 20+ who you can make be on the side of your choice (like what-if Cap were pro reg, or what-if Tony were anti).
Well, I suppose we'll have to wait and see. Not a good start from my point of view though.

crimsonquill

Quote from: tommyboy on June 24, 2008, 05:52:46 AM
"The game is due out for Playstation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, PS2, PSP, and DS."

My take is that PC will be added once they determine who is actually making the game... If they get Activision/Raven to rework their existing MUA game engine with some major improvements then we can assume that all systems will be included along with having exclusive characters (again..  :angry: .. unless they decide to allow all online systems get a patch this time).

- CrimsonQuill

BentonGrey

Well, I was really, REALLY excited about this game, but I won't be buying it now.  I read Civil War just recently (I got it through the library, so Marvel wouldn't get any of my money in support of that sham) and it lived down to my expectations.  What a horrible, HORRIBLE idea.  After all of the great, galaxy spanning adventures that the Avengers have been on, fighting Kang, alien races, undersea hordes, what have you, they couldn't adapt ONE of those?  Also, none of the characters mentioned other than Hulk matter to me.  I hope that all of the FF are in, but I also want my Avengers that were denied me the first time around.  With CW being the backdrop, I don't see it happening.

crimsonquill

Quote from: BentonGrey on June 25, 2008, 11:26:23 AM
Well, I was really, REALLY excited about this game, but I won't be buying it now.  I read Civil War just recently (I got it through the library, so Marvel wouldn't get any of my money in support of that sham) and it lived down to my expectations.  What a horrible, HORRIBLE idea.  After all of the great, galaxy spanning adventures that the Avengers have been on, fighting Kang, alien races, undersea hordes, what have you, they couldn't adapt ONE of those?  Also, none of the characters mentioned other than Hulk matter to me.  I hope that all of the FF are in, but I also want my Avengers that were denied me the first time around.  With CW being the backdrop, I don't see it happening.

Since MUA2 will be released post-Secret Invasion I'd assume that it will borrow elements from Secret War (Fury starting a war with Doom and going underground), Civil War (heroes fight against heroes against villians turned heroes), World War Hulk (Hulk is sent into space in a cut scene and returns as playable character in later missions - first against everyone then joins them), Secret Invasion (Skrulls revealed everywhere because of massive invasion). Then mix in Galactus eating the Skrull world in a cut scene to force their need to flee their planet and then Galactus himself attacking Earth in the final battle for what the heroes did to tick him off in MUA (which of course unites all the heroes and scares off the Skrulls).

Thus we end up with a roster of characters made up from.. New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, Astonishing X-Men, Hulk, Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts, and maybe Young Avengers as Fury's secret weapon when he appears in later missions.

- CrimsonQuill

JeyNyce

Why does everybody think that Marvel will use a story from the comic for the new MU2 game?  They should have the characters from CW & WWH and stuff but leave the storyline out of the game.

lugaru

Quote from: JeyNyce on June 25, 2008, 01:56:38 PM
Why does everybody think that Marvel will use a story from the comic for the new MU2 game?  They should have the characters from CW & WWH and stuff but leave the storyline out of the game.

So far marvel has been pretty serious about using comic book writers to script their games and referencing storylines from their comics in one form or another (except of course the movie liscence games). It seems like the natural progression but you may be right, for all we know this will come entirely from left field with another odd alliance of super villains. Heck, maybe even the Beyonder if they want.     :D

Previsionary

Quote from: lugaru on June 25, 2008, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: JeyNyce on June 25, 2008, 01:56:38 PM
Why does everybody think that Marvel will use a story from the comic for the new MU2 game?  They should have the characters from CW & WWH and stuff but leave the storyline out of the game.

So far marvel has been pretty serious about using comic book writers to script their games and referencing storylines from their comics in one form or another (except of course the movie liscence games). It seems like the natural progression but you may be right, for all we know this will come entirely from left field with another odd alliance of super villains. Heck, maybe even the Beyonder if they want.     :D

That's the point...the comic stories have always been the basis, not the exact story of the games. They're starting points with several branching off points that include other stories and subplots, which is why it's pretty pointless to complain about a story now when we have so little to go on. People are taking their feelings for the actual comic story and applying it to a game that's using the general idea as a jump off point like it did with every other game in the series (minus MUA from what I can tell). And again, I must point out that the IDEA of the civil war issue has been done time and time again, so it's not exactly a horrible idea. The execution of marvel's civil war was pretty off, but the idea was fine for what it is. Unless the people complaining about the idea hated the concept in all the other stories and comics that used pretty much the same idea minus the hero vs. hero, villains are good guys, thing. :P

So...I say hold off on sipping the haterade until more info and pics are shown off. If you still don't like it, then hate on, haters...you'll at least have a better understanding and a more justifiable reason for bashing the game before playing it/seeing it in action. :P

BTW, Benton, it's not an avengers game. It's a marvel universe game...they need to pick a story that expanded across the entirety of the universe like MUA did (though it's not based on any one comic story). Civil War affected all of marvel including the X-men (who are usually left out of events), though they were affected very little. Here's hoping for a bit of WWH action thrown into the plot.

JeyNyce

Whoa there.  Nobody's hating.  I'm just saying that MUA 1 was not base on any story from the comics (not any major ones).  It was the basic setup: Bad guys join together to take over the world, Heroes join together to stop the bad guys.  Nice simple and basic.  It may be too much if they go with a specific storyline.  If they do go with a storyline from the comics, I say do an updated version of Secret Wars.

Previsionary

Quote from: JeyNyce on June 26, 2008, 06:50:41 AM
Whoa there.  Nobody's hating.  I'm just saying that MUA 1 was not base on any story from the comics (not any major ones).  It was the basic setup: Bad guys join together to take over the world, Heroes join together to stop the bad guys.  Nice simple and basic.  It may be too much if they go with a specific storyline.  If they do go with a storyline from the comics, I say do an updated version of Secret Wars.

I would say go with secret wars (the first one) as well, but...*shrugs*  And yes, there is hating in this thread and all over the net...you know, the usual. :P

JeyNyce

Quote from: Previsionary on June 26, 2008, 07:22:23 AM
I would say go with secret wars (the first one) as well, but...*shrugs*  And yes, there is hating in this thread and all over the net...you know, the usual. :P

Of course,........the usual   :P

crimsonquill

Okay.. with E3 around the corner there is a major rumor that a full trailer for MUA2 will debut at the Activision booth there and news of a web site will follow once the reveal for the game is made.

GameTrailers.com and SpikeTV have also made notice that the trailer will be available after it's shown at E3 and a preview of it can be seen on the GameTrailers TV show which airs on Spike on Friday Night (July 11th).

- CrimsonQuill

Previsionary

Quote from: crimsonquill on July 10, 2008, 10:59:40 AM
Okay.. with E3 around the corner there is a major rumor that a full trailer for MUA2 will debut at the Activision booth there and news of a web site will follow once the reveal for the game is made.

GameTrailers.com and SpikeTV have also made notice that the trailer will be available after it's shown at E3 and a preview of it can be seen on the GameTrailers TV show which airs on Spike on Friday Night (July 11th).

- CrimsonQuill

If this is true, it probably means G4tv will be one of the first sources to reveal and play it as they do live coverage every year. Yayzors?

TheMarvell

haven't seen any trailers yet, but they confirmed more characters. Most of them are from the first game (Iron Man, Invisible Woman, Spider-Man, Venom, Hulk, Captain America, etc) and as of right now the only new character announced is Green Goblin.

oh, and the game has a new subtitle: Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2: Fusion.

subtitle seems pretty unnecessary.

thalaw2

I hope they put in a system that forces you to rotate characters more often....if you're into that sort of thing. 

laughing paradox

http://boards.ign.com/marvel_comics_games/b7683/167257164/p1/

This link has a scan to some pages from a Game Informer magazine speaking about the game, showing some stills, and explaining the Fusion aspect of the game. It also has a link to the teaser trailer.

I was going to buy this game before I learned anything about it, because I'm such a huge fan of the first game, but this one looks great. I just hope they add a bigger variety to the playable characters and we get to see characters we have yet to see. (Cloak and Dagger, anyone?)

BlueBard

I personally hated the Marvel Zombies storyline... why on earth they'd base a game on that sick premise is beyond me.

thalaw2

That trailer is just waaaaayyyy too short!  But very nice pics

gengoro

Quote from: tommyboy on May 29, 2008, 09:52:43 AM
It won't happen, but I would want MUA2 to follow the spider-man/GTA/Oblivion model, and give you a sandbox city/world to play in, where you can choose to follow the pre-scripted plot(s), and/or just kill time playing side quests, random encounters and odd little trophy races and accomplishments.
That, and some thought to mod-ability. That the first game got modded in anyway was close to miraculous given how hermetically sealed it is. If you can add in characters then you don't disappoint anyone by leaving out their favourite.
None of which is likely, but I can dream...

A friggin MEN!  Id kill for a sandbox superhero game.  Especially one with as much customizing as freedom force.  The game would be a gold mine.  Cant understand why any developers havent tried this.  They always seem to go the damn MMO route instead.


Cant wait for MUA2 by the way.

Figure Fan

This looks pretty awesome, actually.

MJB

Any hints about a possible release date?

-MJB

electro

The camera is going to determine wheather or not i play this game - I am not a fan of the helicopter view of the first 3 games even thow i liked the games - I would rather be down in the action watching my char beat the snot out of enemies - I know they did this so you can see all the char's on the screen at one time but that kind of camera angle is outdated now & no games really use it anymore except RTS games :blink:

zuludelta

Quote from: Previsionary on June 26, 2008, 07:22:23 AM
I would say go with secret wars (the first one) as well, but...*shrugs*  And yes, there is hating in this thread and all over the net...you know, the usual. :P

I can't remember where I read it, but in an interview, one of the developers (or maybe it was Tom Brevoort) said that Secret Wars was one of the major influences on the game plot (mixed in with some of the more recent Civil War stuff). I'm guessing that the two competing sides of heroes end up banding together in the end to battle Galactus (since he was hinted to be the next main bad guy at the end of the first MUA game).

BatWing

(omg electro has a kewl avatar)

so whos the new characters in MUA2?


idk why but when i beat xml, xml2, and mua i lose intrest when i beat it.

daerdevil

Daredevil featured prominently = I buy game!
Nice find on the article.  Too bad the Secret War storyline referenced isn't "the Secret Wars" like I hoped but this is looking promising.


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