Freedom Force Civil War: How would it go down?

[Blitzgott]

I say give Liberty Lad the Patriot staff and the Vigilance wirst bands!

My take on the Minuteman topic:

[spoiler]I disagree with Minuteman siding with the pro-register faction. He may have turned himself over to the police when he was falsely accused of robbery because of that doppelanger, but I don't think he is some government lapdog. Remember his catchphrase? "FOR FREEDOM!" Minuteman is the stereotypical patriotic hero. He fights not only to defend his country, but it's ideals as well. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, for I am not even American, but the USA's slogan is "liberty or death". So, I can only imagine that Minuteman, for who he is, would find such law an attempt to his civil rights. From my point of view, pro-register he ain't.

Besides, it'd be wicked cool if Minuteman died during a clash between the resistance and the pro-register faction (or for some other reason) and Liberty Lad inherited his mantle.[/spoiler]

That skin is pretty cool, but I think Liberty Lad would look cooler wearing clothes similar to Minuteman's, only slightly modernish and without the hat. The bandana remains. He'd also be slightly more buff. And, last but not least, he'd wield the Patriot staff and wear the Vigilance wirst bands. He can keep his loyal bag of grenades. That'd give him a "Winter Soldier turned Captain America" feeling. Then again, it'd only be plausible if Liberty Lad took the role of Minuteman, obviously.

As for who should be pro-register and who should be anti-register, in my opinion:

[spoiler]Pro-register:

Man-Bot: Because he is still sorrow-stricken and holds himself responsible for the death of his brother, and the government offered a means to stop such incidents from happening. Also, they could bribe Man-Bot with the care of the world's brighest minds, who would be tasked with finding a cure for his unstable condition. I mean, sure, it's unlikely that, if Mentor, with his vast intelligence and technological resources couldn't cure him, anyone else on Earth can, but Man-Bot might think otherwise. That, or he simply might get tired of Mentor's futile attemps to cure his condition and try something new.

Law & Order: Because of their namesakes. I mean, the superhuman registration act is a LAW that is supposed to dictate ORDER. Yeah, yeah... Stupid reason. I know. Then again, they weren't given much depth, anyway. So...

Supercollider: Supercollider do not seem to share any bonds with the other Freedom Force members. It feels to me that he only sticks 'round 'cause he likes to smash stuff, and Freedom Force is always in the heart of any kind of trouble. So, basically, I think it does not matter for him if he is smacking down bad guys or good guys, as long as he is wacking something. Given the fact that he is most likely the type that is easily persuaded and that the government has much more to offer to him than Freedom Force does...

Blackbird: I think it's safe to assume that Blackbird has had enough of prision life, and she does not want to give luck a chance to see herself behind bars again. Besides, doing good under a public image instead of a concealed one would help her reedem herself from her life of crime in the eyes of both the government and the common folk, instead of just her own.

Microwave: I can picture Microwave fighting for the resistance at the beginning, only to be severely damaged during a fight and captured by the pro-register faction. He'd then be reprogramed and possibly cloned; maybe even upgraded.

El Diablo: El Diablo's powers gave him the chance to be more than just a mere hoodlum roaming around the Barrio with no purpose at all other than to look for trouble. If he joins the resistance, he'll be seen as nothing more than that: a hoodlum, a criminal... It'd be like back pedaling in the direction of his troubled past. Besides, he seems the type to enjoy the limelight.

Shadow, Deja Vu and Mr. Mechanical: Villains turned "heroes", Thunderbolts-style, with anti-backstabbing explosive devices attached to them and everything. Mechanical could very well be the one entrusted with creating an army of Microwaves.

Anti-register:

Minuteman: For reasons aforementioned.

Mentor: I totally see Mentor taking a Cable-like role. Fighting for the resistance while, at the same time, trying to reason with the authorities in order to stop with all the madness. Weather or not he'd become the leader of some unheard of nation and/or build a high-tech floating island is optional.

The Ant: The Ant hates bullies, and one big fat bully is exactly what the government is being.

Liberty Lad: I can picture Liberty Lad sticking with the pro-register faction at first. As much as he idolizes Minuteman, he is a little rebellious and has his own way of seeing things. I believe that, at first, he'd think that sticking by the government's side is the truly righteous and most patriotic thing to do, ignoring Minuteman's point of view and assuming that he is above him. However, he'd be in constant conflict with his ideals and his loyalty towards Minuteman. As the war progressed, the twisted ways of the pro-register faction would begin to shock him, and he'd start to question the choice he made. In time, he'd start to see things the way Minuteman does, and that'd lead to him abandoning the pro-register faction and joining the resistance.

Tombstone: Tombstone has plenty of reasons to feel bitter towards the government.

Green Genie: Genie is rebellious by nature. Furthermore, what the government is trying to do is pretty much what she had to endure for most of her life while under her tyrannical father's care: trying to order her around, hold her back and make decisions for her. I don't think she is about to put up to that sort of c***.

Quetzacoalt: I don't think your godship Quetz would take very kindly the assumption that his very own superpowered existance represents a risk to mankind when he came to Earth with the sole purpose of enacting justice. Besides, why should a god do what such lesser beings tell him to?

Sea Urchin: Sea Urchin seems the type that enjoys the limelight. Wasn't she the one who pretty much made the decision to join Freedom Force for both she and Man O' War, because "this solo stuff is for the birds"? Then again, I don't think the idea of hunting down her own friends would very much appeal to her. Besides, Urchin fighting for the resistance while Diablo fights for the pro-register faction could very well lead to a "Mr. Fantastic uses own body to save Invisble Woman from sneak attack" moment; only Diablo would take Reed's role and Urchin would take Sue's. If they weren't already in a relationship by then, this could be the beginning of all.

Iron Ox: Ox is above submitting to unreasonable laws the Yankee leaders pull out of their a****, but he will not run from a fight either.

The Bard: BaronGrackle's reasoning for The Bard seems perfect to me.

Others:

Eve: Eve would take the role of Doctor Strange, in that she'd not take part in the conflict, siding with neither faction. Instead, she'd just seclude herself (most likely into the wilderness) and pray that the war ends in the best possible way.

Bullet: Bullet's description says that he has "a deep-rooted and selfless concern towards innocents caught in the crossfire of any conflict". That said, I think Bullet would take Thing's role. At first, he'd side with the pro-register faction, thinking that's the best thing to do. However, as he witness the wanton destruction caused by the conflicts between both factions, he'd get all ticked and scream that they are both wrong, and that he wants no part on it. He'd then wander off to some foreign country, but would eventually come back at the height of the conflict.

Man O' War: I have no idea in which side I'd put him.[/spoiler]

[bat1987]

This could be such an awesome mod!!!

[Previsionary]

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, for I am not even American, but Patrick Henry's slogan is "give me liberty or give me death". So, I can only imagine that Minuteman, for who he is, would find such law an attempt to his civil rights. From my point of view, pro-register he ain't.

Corrected.

Anyway, this all sounds like a good idea, imo, even if it uses an event I disliked as a reference point. :P

[GogglesPizanno]

Anyway, this all sounds like a good idea, imo, even if it uses an event I disliked as a reference point.

I was thinking that it didn't HAVE to be a rip of the Civil War. Basically any storyline that splits up the sides and disrupts the status quo would work as a jumping off point. That way you can customize the setup a bit for FF and you don't get some of the negative backlash associated with trying to mimic the Marvel series.

[The Nemesis]

This could be such an awesome mod!!!

I while ago I animated a little scene of a page from Marvel Civil War, using Freedom Force models.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rPSLtnlqzCY


I always thought it would be a cool idea to edit some of the audio from FF1 and 2 to make a different story line.
Yeah, it would be an animated short, not a mod, but such a thing might still be fun.

If a general concensus ever comes about as to a story/script for a FF Civil War style event, and the existing recoreded dialogue from FF1&2 could possibly accomodate such a thing, I wouldn't mind trying to make it.

[docdelorean88]

To jumpstart this topic again, There is one major power every one is forgetting. Get ready to kick your self in the butt,

TIME MASTER!!!!!!

He could easily be the factor that starts and ultimately finishes this ongoing war, think about it. Time Master gets board one day and decides to play a game of risk with the energy x powered beings of earth. He just wants to watch so he plants the idea of regestration, vouala the war begins. he sits back and watches as teams are divded and friends become enimies. After the war has taken its tole, he realizes that (Whichever) side wins or loses and as he watches patriot city and even the world, go into natural chaos, a slightly different but strangely familiar figure with beatuiful red hair aproaches him, they tangle and after she kicks his butt, makes him put things back the way they were. people are reserected, buildings rebuilt even chedcking acounts have stolen money being put back in. This civil war happened, yes, but it didn't have to be remembered. And more importantly, "She" was back and this time she had energy x to watch her back. And the last thing you see is this woman burst into an aura of pink flame.
The next game Return of The Alchemiss

Then agian, just my opinion :cool:

[Cdub]

I just might get around to modding this. Of course that'll be AFTER I make to Dub Comics Mod.

[Cairoi]

Wow, this is a REALLY awesome idea. I can't mod for the life of me, but I'd be willing to help in any way.

And Vamp, that is really awesome.

[BaronGrackle]

TIME MASTER!!!!!!

It'd be fun if Timemaster had a part, but I'm not so sure about him being the central focus again. He's had a huge roll in the first two games, so it might be different if he had a minor role in this one, if any at all.

[docdelorean88]

Hmm, touche, you have a point there, let me think on other ways this would work.