Has Hercules ever fought Abomination?

[captmorgan72]

Herc lost three matches to Abomination in the rumble room today (using USAgent's hero files of course) and that got me wondering if these two ever fought in the comics. All three fights where extremely close with both having slivers of health left and then it was just a matter of who gets the punchs off first.

[Jakew]

Herc 1-shotted Abomb in his last mini

[herodad1]

they should be pretty evenly matched.i hope they're not going to kill  abom. off for good in the red hulk stories.

[thalaw2]

Abomb. would mop the floor with Herc.  At least he should.  It's nowhere near even.  Abomb. is/was twice as strong as the Hulk at normal levels (until Hulk Mad!). 

[kkhohoho]

Abomb. would mop the floor with Herc.  At least he should.  It's nowhere near even.  Abomb. is/was twice as strong as the Hulk at normal levels (until Hulk Mad!). 

Isn't Hercules supposed to be some sort of super-strong demi-god?

[Alaric]

Abomb. would mop the floor with Herc.  At least he should.  It's nowhere near even.  Abomb. is/was twice as strong as the Hulk at normal levels (until Hulk Mad!). 

Uh. no. The Abomination is supposed to be stronger than the Hulk at his "normal" strength level, whatever that means for the Hulk, but exactly how much stronger has never been strictly defined. Hercules is also stronger than "normal" strength Hulk (the Hulk has always had to get pretty mad to reach Herc/Thor-level strength), and he's a much, much more skilled fighter than the Abomination. I'd say it would be a pretty tough fight, but Herc would have a clear advantage.

[captmorgan72]

I don't know, the more research I am doing I don't think that Herc would have that big of an advantage. Abomination is basically the Hulk without the rage factor and super charged healing factor. Both Abomination and Hulk have very high invulnerabilities, higher than Hercules for sure. It would be a close fight but I think that Abomination has the advantage in this fight.

[Alaric]

I don't know, the more research I am doing I don't think that Herc would have that big of an advantage. Abomination is basically the Hulk without the rage factor and super charged healing factor. Both Abomination and Hulk have very high invulnerabilities, higher than Hercules for sure. It would be a close fight but I think that Abomination has the advantage in this fight.

However, the Hulk's "rage factor" is exactly what has allowed him to defeat gods and cosmic beings. If they can't take him down fast enough, he just keeps getting stronger and tougher until he can take them down.


I think people tend to underestimate the level of invulnerable possessed by Hercules, Thor, and certain others. In fist fights with the Hulk and similar opponents, they don't seem to suffer noticeably more damage than their opponents. Thor, for example, probably has less durable skin than, say, the Hulk, but he seems to make up for it with greater internal durability. In any case, Herc has several millennia's worth of combat experience over Mr. Blonsky, as well as considerably more training in combat.

Besides, the Abomination was once beaten by Hawkeye, who doesn't have any invulnerability at all, so obviously that one trait isn't always what's going to decide a fight.

[Previsionary]

I could have sworn Hercules duked it out with WWHulk and held his ground fairly well and he was holding back that whole fight...and then he stopped fighting and got destroyed (If I remember the events correctly). I assume WWHulk would be a much tougher opponent than Abom (who was killed by a gun, mind you) could ever be.

Edit: Hercules and Hulk have fought quite a few times in the past and Herc is able to do fine against him so him fighting abom and winning isn't too much of a stretch. See Hulk vs. hercules: Clash of the titans from april which features two Herc vs. Hulk stories. One new, one old. It's a pretty good story if you enjoy Hercules at all.

Also, keep in mind Hercules has a berserker rage which means his strength increases, but he becomes a giant liability. That mode hasn't been featured much of late, but I know he still has it.

[Talavar]

I could have sworn Hercules duked it out with WWHulk and held his ground fairly well and he was holding back that whole fight...and then he stopped fighting and got destroyed (If I remember the events correctly). I assume WWHulk would be a much tougher opponent than Abom (who was killed by a gun, mind you) could ever be.

Edit: Hercules and Hulk have fought quite a few times in the past and Herc is able to do fine against him so him fighting abom and winning isn't too much of a stretch. See Hulk vs. hercules: Clash of the titans from april which features two Herc vs. Hulk stories. One new, one old. It's a pretty good story if you enjoy Hercules at all.

Also, keep in mind Hercules has a berserker rage which means his strength increases, but he becomes a giant liability. That mode hasn't been featured much of late, but I know he still has it.

You are correct sir, about Herc fighting WWHulk.

And Herc's beserker rage was featured quite recently actually, in his new own series (that's surprisingly good).

[captmorgan72]

Yeah, I agree with both of you guys but this post was made because of the results of the fight in the rumble room. I am using USAgent's heroe files (closest to canon available in my opinion) and Abomination always seems to beat Hercules, although the fights are always close.

[herodad1]

if you look at the marvel handbook they both are at class 100 ton strength.emil having the size/weight avantage,herc with the fighting experience.what it all comes to is the writer.the abomination has been written as a joke over the years.he's a classic tough guy but has been cannon fodder for many years.not long ago she-hulk beat him.come on.i dont like this new red hulk.just like they introduced venom and made him baddest of the bad suddenly.dont like him either.give me the classic villians.they are legends just like their creators.as far as emil & herc.,well what would happen if you got two normal guys of the same strength and put them in a room together.one having the size/weight the other fighting experience.you decide.

[Previsionary]

if you look at the marvel handbook they both are at class 100 ton strength.emil having the size/weight avantage,herc with the fighting experience.what it all comes to is the writer.the abomination has been written as a joke over the years.he's a classic tough guy but has been cannon fodder for many years.not long ago she-hulk beat him.come on.i dont like this new red hulk.just like they introduced venom and made him baddest of the bad suddenly.dont like him either.give me the classic villians.they are legends just like their creators.as far as emil & herc.,well what would happen if you got two normal guys of the same strength and put them in a room together.one having the size/weight the other fighting experience.you decide.

That's always the case, BUT Hercules has been treated as a joke or at best, a "B or C-list" hero ever since he was introduced into the marvel timeline. Hercules should be just at or just above Thor in my opinion (he used to be just as strong as Thor, don't know about now), but that's not always the case as far as Hercules goes. He is known for his strength in mythology, so it would be nice if that still applied to him in Marvel especially since that's his only power, so to speak. He doesn't have much else going for him. He's an extremely flawed character, but he has made Cho more tolerable. :P

[captmorgan72]

I decided to give Herc and Thor stone skin in their USAgent hero files. Now they last much longer in fights and Herc beats Abomination every time. Herc usually has around a half of healthbar left at the end of the fight. I figured that Herc has battled creatures and beings of great power for thousands of years and he shouldn't lose to a hulk like gamma irradiated superbeing. The Hulk on the other hand always beats Hercules due to his turbo charged healing and rage factor. Since Abomination is bascially the Hulk without those he loses to Herc everytime. Now Herc can go toe to toe with Hulk for awhile and even bring Hulk's health down to half.

[Remy]

Just for the record, Hercules has fought Abomination once and knocked him out with one punch. In his own series, can't remember too well but it was something about Hercules proving to world that he is still The Hero instead of drunken joke.

[B A D]

The current series is doing wonders for Herc's rep. Its probably the best thing Marvel is publishing right now.