tommyboy's Map Making Misadventures and Conundrums

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Super Fly :thumbup: (get it?) ;) :P

[USAgent]

The Shield Helicarrier?!?!?  That is just nuts Tommy!!  You have some awsome ideas for this mega map, almost like having the entire Marvel Earth right there!  (well a big Majority of it)

[tommyboy]

The Shield Helicarrier?!?!?  That is just nuts Tommy!!  You have some awsome ideas for this mega map, almost like having the entire Marvel Earth right there!  (well a big Majority of it)

Ahhh... Style gets any credit for the Helicarrier being in it, for it was his suggestion.

[djfredski]

i can't wait! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[tommyboy]

Better:

[Xenolith]

Looks great, and the skin makes it look real!

[cmdrkoenig67]

OMIGAWD!  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

[ow_tiobe_sb]

Stunning!  :thumbup:

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Phantom Bunburyist and Fop o' th' Morning

[djfredski]

 :o come on tommy stop it stop it! :banghead: :banghead:
i can't take. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[rmt]

Sweet.  Thinking more and more that the "patch" should include your map.  What's a few hundred megs in a multi-gig mod.   :P  And it's not like I've ever gotten off my bum and sent Cat the files.

As for your skrull comments, I can only say "Embrace Change", by which I mean recycle your plots every decade.  I forget which issue, but since you said you were synchronicitously reading Ostrander's H4H, did you notice where they referenced the Skrull Invasion and how they had replaced much of the population?  Bizarre to see that line in a comic that old but shows you there is no originality in S.I., even though I like it more than... well, anyone, from the sound of things.   ;)

He Loves You.  And by He I mean Me.  Sweet looking New York and the helicarrier is great.  Would love to see it as a separate map, like the old aircraft carrier in the Nuclear Winter levels in FF1.  Maybe I've been playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance too much lately...

[Lunarman]

Excellent work!

Although previously not converted to your skydomes with skylines, you are convincing me! This map looks amazing

[cvc]

"Wow" that map is crazy great,with all the work and landmark buildings just remarkable. (stunned)

[detourne_me]

such awesome work tommy!

[style]

Now TB I know you're thinking man I'm glad I did that Shield Helecarrier in the sky piece. Because it looks beautiful!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

[herodad1]

hey tommy...is this going to be a mod or a map.might be a stupid question but all the cross-talks confusing.

[tommyboy]

hey tommy...is this going to be a mod or a map.might be a stupid question but all the cross-talks confusing.

Not a stupid question.
It's going to be a map in a sort of mini-Mod. A Mod without any new story, or character, that really only has one mission.
The reason being that the map itself will have all new buildings, requiring new .dat files or they wont work right.
And since some people dont have all the FF1 textures the map uses, I'm including those too.
Of course the map (and its files) can be copied out of the mini-mod into whatever Mod (or native) directory you like, but you'll need to merge the .dat files in.
Oh, it'll have FFX 3.3 stuff in there too, so ez-freeroam campaigns can be set up in it, or ez-script missions.
I may include several versions, ie the Marvel New York, a 'generic' New York without the marvel stuff, and a generic megacity, minus the new york stuff.
If you are all very lucky, the map may be included in one (or two) gigantic, fantastic Mods another member has made (RMT), as and when the map is finished, and he's happy to release his Mods.

[R.O.M]

cool  :thumbup: I cant wait for this Tommy

[lmalonsof]

I have no words...

[style]

I am like so siked about this map!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wacko:

[BentonGrey]

Wow!  That is even MORE incredible Tommy!  I've been needing a helicarrier map for one of my projects, so I'll echo what someone else asked.  Do you think there is any chance of us seeing a map with just that by itself, or perhaps the release of the object itself? :D

[tommyboy]

Wow!  That is even MORE incredible Tommy!  I've been needing a helicarrier map for one of my projects, so I'll echo what someone else asked.  Do you think there is any chance of us seeing a map with just that by itself, or perhaps the release of the object itself? :D

I can release the object itself if people want it. It's about the same sort of size as the aircraft carrier native to FF, in terms of length and width, but is obviously much deeper.
The caveat is, in order to get it in the air above a map, the 'phantom roof' syndrome kicks in, so I'll either have to also release a separate 'deck only' mesh that will be invisible but placed in the same spot as the 'carrier so it can be stood upon, or it would have to be used in a 'fall off and die' type map like the empire state map with the clouds, where the 'carrier itself is the 'ground'.
I'll see if I can package the helicarrier up in the next week or so and stick it on my website.

[GogglesPizanno]

The other option would be to scale it up in nifskope, and use the mesh itself as the terrain.
You could wrap it with a sky box to give the illusion of being in the air. So characters would be locked to the deck for movement, but since its technically at ground level now, the roof issue should go away.

If you wanted a fall off an die type of level, design it the same way, just raise it above the ground enough that its still possible to stand on the deck, and make the terrain below invisible and unpassable with some big markers that trigger the character deaths when a character gets knocked off (like the Empire State map form FF1 did).

[BentonGrey]

I think for my purposes an Empire State flavor map would work just fine.  Thanks Tommy, I'm sure I can figure something out that will work!

[Xenolith]

Another option is to release it as a character!   :D  Could that be done?  I'd like to think it carries enough firepower to take on the heavy hitters or comicdom.

[tommyboy]

Another option is to release it as a character!   :D  Could that be done?  I'd like to think it carries enough firepower to take on the heavy hitters or comicdom.

I'd have to add some turrets and weapon nodes and a selection box for that, and bear in mind that in the first preview pic, the view from above? The little red 'x' on the big yellow deck is a male_basic mesh, to give you a sense of scale. To be anywhere near other characters (except maybe Red Ronin), would be to cover them from view. So I dunno how feasable it would be to have it as a character...

[qazwsx]

Heya tom, may I kindly request permission to (possibly)use your buildings in my mod. Goings without saying you'll be credited. Besides, I'm sure everyone already knows they're yours! I'm still contemplating wheter to in any case. Oh and in case you didn't know, your last "release" had no textures. Ta.

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Curious about the progress of this. :huh:

[qazwsx]

STOP GOING ROUND BUMPING THREADS YOU! Nah kidding me curious too. Tommy's still pretty active round the forums..

[tommyboy]

Curious about the progress of this. :huh:

Well, for the last few weeks, there has been none.
Various reasons, real-life, distractions, laziness etc etc.
I hope to start the wagons rolling again within the next week or two.
Sorry for the teasing and delaying tactics...

[style]

Do not be sorry T-man this is perhaps the best Map ever!!! And I just didn't want it forgoten about. :(