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Batman: R.I.P

Started by JeyNyce, July 28, 2008, 06:30:27 AM

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the_ultimate_evil

Quote from: bat1987 on October 07, 2008, 01:39:36 PM
Yup, that ticked me off as well.

One more thing[spoiler]
Apparently Gordon now knows Bruce`s identity too[/spoiler]

umm most bat fans have thought he has known for quite some time, just out of respect have never told him, hell look at the end of no man lands or a recent bats/superman bats himself said that he suspected it

bat1987

I always thought he knew since year one, but now its official.

Mr. Hamrick

Actually, the revealing of Batman's identity makes perfect sense with what is reportedly coming. 
[spoiler] IE: Bruce quitting being Batman [/spoiler]
and
[spoiler]Dick and Jason fighting over the cowl.[/spoiler]


Podmark

I wouldn't get worked up about this story...yet. It's a pretty trippy one it might not end how you'd expect.

But come on, calling Morrison a hack? Sure this Batman run is...odd, but Morrison's been a solid comics writer for years.

bredon7777

Well, GM I have to say I think you got the Joker completely and utterly wrong.

To wit: I don't think that the Joker doesn't want to know who Batman is; I don't think he gives a flying <bleep> who Batman is. I can see him not telling the other pyschos because he's knows it would 'ruin the game', as it were.  But for himself? I've never seen any indication that he gives a rat's behind about Bats' secret ID one way or another.

For everyone - theres an excellent Morrison piece in Wizard that gives some insight into this storyline.

Spe-Dog

The thing is that the replacement Batman thing was done with Knightsend and so on.  That story really focused on showing why Bruce is Batman and no one else can really fill the cowl.  Why rehash it?  Why would Bruce ever quit being Batman as long as he is alive and able if he is really as driven as we, as readers, have been led to believe?

Talavar

Well, the last issue of RIP came out today, and...

[spoiler]
Let me say first, I'm not sure if Batman is dead or not - but I don't think he is. 

I'm still mulling it over really.  It reaffirms "Batman plans for everything" to an almost ridiculous degree, but I think I liked it.  Particularly the Batman and the Joker (not working together or anything) putting this upstart Black Glove organization in their place.

Not much about the consequences of all this is revealed though; tune in next week!

[/spoiler]

Podmark

It was an odd series I think. Maybe I need to read the whole thing over again?

[spoiler]Well there's no way Batman is really dead. Least not based on the end of that issue.[/spoiler]

bat1987

Well, this I know for sure
[spoiler]
Batman in Final Crisis,which happens after RIP, is Bruce Wayne, as confirmed by Morrison.

The next two issues will explain how all of this ties into Final Crisis.[/spoiler]

Talavar

It almost seems like Final Crisis isn't in continuity.  Are any books dealing with it right now?  Because it doesn't seem like it to me.

bat1987

It is. Everything you read now happens before FC.

GhostMachine

I haven't read the last part of R.I.P. yet (probably won't pick up my comics for another week or so), but
[spoiler]I'd have no problem whatsoever if they pulled a cop out and have Bruce continue as Batman. I do, however, think it would be cool if they temporarily have people think Batman is dead. Imagine Dick, Tim and Jason arguing over who gets to be the new Batman, only for Bruce to appear from out of nowhere, grab Jason by the collar, and say something along the lines of "no way in hell!"

And there would be no mystery as to who would replace Bruce, anyway; it would have to be Dick. Tim is too young and doesn't really have quite enough experience, and Jason would be about as bad as when John Walker replaced Steve Rogers as Captain America. Jason as Batman would probably cause the readership of all Bat-related titles that he appears in to drop. (I'd love to see a mini-series featuring Jason, but NOT as Batman)

And I really hope Morrison leaves the title fairly soon. I don't think I can take another year of him as writer, let alone six months.[/spoiler]

Podmark

Quote from: GhostMachine on November 28, 2008, 09:37:32 PM
I haven't read the last part of R.I.P. yet (probably won't pick up my comics for another week or so), but
[spoiler]I'd have no problem whatsoever if they pulled a cop out and have Bruce continue as Batman. I do, however, think it would be cool if they temporarily have people think Batman is dead. Imagine Dick, Tim and Jason arguing over who gets to be the new Batman, only for Bruce to appear from out of nowhere, grab Jason by the collar, and say something along the lines of "no way in hell!"

And there would be no mystery as to who would replace Bruce, anyway; it would have to be Dick. Tim is too young and doesn't really have quite enough experience, and Jason would be about as bad as when John Walker replaced Steve Rogers as Captain America. Jason as Batman would probably cause the readership of all Bat-related titles that he appears in to drop. (I'd love to see a mini-series featuring Jason, but NOT as Batman)

And I really hope Morrison leaves the title fairly soon. I don't think I can take another year of him as writer, let alone six months.[/spoiler]

Morrison isn't currently solicited to write any more Batman for the moment. There's a rumor Didio has upset Morrison or vice versa, but that's unconfirmed. Didio did recently say "Grant has so many Batman stories to tell that we have to find an outlet for them, and I'm absolutely sure that we will find one for him. " and Morrison has said something along the lines of he never wants to leave Batman.


BentonGrey

I just read the summary for this.....wow.....this sounds like an excruciatingly bad story.  In fact, it seems, in microcosm, a great deal of what is wrong in comics.  You tell stories about the same characters long enough that there is nothing to do but torture them in attempts to provide "interesting" stories.  Ahh well, I haven't read the story, so I can't really judge it.  I suppose I'll keep sticking with my archives. 

Zippo

Well, I actually really enjoyed the main story line. The tie-ins were mediocre, except for "The Heart of HUSH" in Detective Comics, which I thought was pretty good.

As for Batman being dead:

[spoiler]WTH? Did they not just pull this EXACT same thing with HUSH in Detective Comics? Helicopter crashes into the water and the body can't be found. Though we see Hush is alive and not-so-well just a few pages later. This was actually the only thing that bugged me in an otherwise enjoyable arc. Could they at least have thought up a more original way for Batman to (supposedly) die?[/spoiler]

Also:

[spoiler]There was a Batman within the Batman... It's Batman's all the way down!  :lol:[/spoiler]

Jakew

Joker also died via helicopter explosion in 'Death In The Family'.

I actually liked BATMAN RIP, and I generally don't like Morrison on mainstream DC books. I wasn't a fan of his Batman: Gothic or Arkham Asylum either.

Podmark

LITG reports that Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely will be on Batman after Battle for the Cowl.

GhostMachine

Quote from: Podmark on December 15, 2008, 10:18:57 PM
LITG reports that Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely will be on Batman after Battle for the Cowl.

Then I will be dropping Batman after Battle for the Cowl, as Quitely is my least favorite artist after Rob Liefeld.


the_ultimate_evil

Quote from: GhostMachine on December 16, 2008, 10:57:26 AM
Quote from: Podmark on December 15, 2008, 10:18:57 PM
LITG reports that Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely will be on Batman after Battle for the Cowl.

Then I will be dropping Batman after Battle for the Cowl, as Quitely is my least favorite artist after Rob Liefeld.



i wont drop it, but i'm defiantly not a fan of quitelys art

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