Archive link (http://freedomreborn.net/archive/index.php?topic=41447.0)
Latest trailer (http://www.latinoreview.com/news/new-star-trek-trailer-6326)
You have another link to that trailer, because I can't find it on that page anywhere.
http://www.moviemake-out.com/2009/03/06/trailer-watch-jj-abrams-star-trek/ (http://www.moviemake-out.com/2009/03/06/trailer-watch-jj-abrams-star-trek/)
I'm looking forward to this now, surprisingly.
Looks like Shatner really wanted in this film http://www.moviemake-out.com/2008/10/17/abrams-to-responds-to-shatners-explanation-of-nixed-star-trek-cameo/
What do you guys think about this? I personally think that Shatner wanted the spotlight on him.
Can't see that one either.
Whatever site is hosting the film must be being blocked by something. Oh well.
Actually, Shatner's not being too petty and is saying nice things about both Abrams and the movie in his answer on youtube, so it isn't really as big of a deal as some people are trying to make it.
www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek (http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/)
People are going to think I've been under a rock, but I've never really seen anything Star Trek. I think when I was little I saw one of the movies, but was too young to really remember it or grasp what was going on. I just remember what I THINK was the Enterprise crash into the ground with a lot of grass flying everywhere. Anyways, I don't have a reason, I just never got into it. That being said, this movie looks pretty cool and will probably go see it, if only to say "yes, I've seen something Star Trek from beginning to end" lol.
Looks AWESOME. I'll be there opening night most likely.
I'm excited about this movie. Not sure if it will turn out well but I'm hopeful.
It seems a surprise screening of star trek happened this week. As of now, it's getting great reviews.
some early viewer reviews (1 (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/04/07/early-buzz-the-first-reviews-of-jj-abrams-star-trek/)) and (2 (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/04/star-treks-snea.html)).
I was going to post a third link, but not only is it spoiler heavy, it's also swear filled. Let's just say he loved it, the surprise, and the appearance of Nimoy at said screening. ;)
I'll one up prev with video from the actual Nimoy event.
http://blog.originalalamo.com/2009/04/07/leonard-nimoy-beamed-into-the-south-lamar-alamo/
I'm still not that excited about the movie.
But it woulda been cool to be there.
The fact that a room full of people who were fans enough to turn out for a Wrath of Kahn screening loved it, gives me great hope. If my fellow nerds like it, than I probably will to.
Should be an awesome movie. :D
I was slightly skeptical at first about handing over the project to an "outsider" like Abrams, but if he can revitalize the franchise, I'm all for it. Huzzah!
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on April 09, 2009, 04:37:51 PM
The fact that a room full of people who were fans enough to turn out for a Wrath of Kahn screening loved it, gives me great hope. If my fellow nerds like it, than I probably will to.
Actually I think they are the worst guage for this kind of thing. I have friends that are huge Star Wars fans that still try and argue that Episode I-III were really good and not as bad as people say. Even though I can have my fanboy moments, I think fanboys are THE WORST people because they/we tend to be too forgiving, apologetic and self delusional to a beloved series...
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on April 09, 2009, 04:41:06 PM
I was slightly skeptical at first about handing over the project to an "outsider" like Abrams, but if he can revitalize the franchise, I'm all for it. Huzzah!
I'm a fan of handing things to outsiders, especially franchises that are so inbred with the original creators/overseers. So when I heard about it, I was intrigued. But Im not a fan of Abrams and the more i read about how it was still trying to retain connections to the original series etc... that when i started losing interest. I mean if your going to reboot a stagnant franchise with all new people, reboot it, re-imagine, re-interprid... give it a kick in the ol keester.
Yeah, that's a tricky line to walk. Trying to reinvigorate a fictional universe without discarding too much--yeesh.
You're right about needing to hand the properties to an outside creator who isn't "inbred." It can really work sometimes, provided said creator respects the world he's stepping into. I'm not a fan of hacking something apart and picking out the most commercially viable segments. If that's the case, create something new.
But yes, I'm interested in what Abrams will do. :D
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on April 09, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on April 09, 2009, 04:41:06 PM
I was slightly skeptical at first about handing over the project to an "outsider" like Abrams, but if he can revitalize the franchise, I'm all for it. Huzzah!
I'm a fan of handing things to outsiders, especially franchises that are so inbred with the original creators/overseers. So when I heard about it, I was intrigued. But Im not a fan of Abrams and the more i read about how it was still trying to retain connections to the original series etc... that when i started losing interest. I mean if your going to reboot a stagnant franchise with all new people, reboot it, re-imagine, re-interprid... give it a kick in the ol keester.
I like the idea of handing it an outsider. And unlike you, Goggles, I have no particular qualms with Abrams work. I'm not a huge fan of his but I like his work.
However, for the most part, I am NOT much a Trek fan. I have watched it before. I watched TNG off and on when it was first on and occasionally in later seasons. And I certain was not much of a fan of the the spinoffs nor the original series. However, I liked the earlier Star Trek films, mostly from "Wrath of Kahn" until "First Contact". The biggest turn-off for me are some of the fanatical fans who treat Trek as though it was a religious experience of some kind. I've gotten better about it as I have gotten older but it still is a bit of a turn-off.
What I am more interested to see is if Abrams can make the series interesting for me as a non-Star Trek fan (which from the previews it seems he has) as much as the die-hard "Kirk and Picard are deities" Trekkie fan. I suspect (and maybe hope) he does the former more than the latter.
Pfft. Everyone knows if you want a god, you get a Sisko. ;)
Good point, though. I've always been very enthusiastic about Star Trek (especially DS9 and Voyager, though TNG is classic), but I've never tried to convert someone. If this new film can become a more mainstream experience for moviegoers, that would be great. If they're less wonky about continuity and all that stuff, I'll live.
I KHAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN'T wait to see this, it looks like a really fun scifi action movie from the previews, but also like it tries to nod to the original series well which is cute.
I'm not much of a Trekington, but I love Wrath of Kahn, and I really liked watching TNG and Voyager as a kid/teenager. I also like a lot of the people cast and just want to see them play the familiar roles.
I'm not a diehard trekkie, but I am a Star Trek fan. Deep Space Nine is one of my all time favorite shows and TNG and Voyager are both favs of mine as well.
But Voyager was getting tired before it ended and Enterprise was worse. Trek needs something new to breath some life back into it, and I hope it's this movie.
Quote from: GogglesPizanno on April 09, 2009, 05:19:42 PMQuote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on April 09, 2009, 04:37:51 PMThe fact that a room full of people who were fans enough to turn out for a Wrath of Kahn screening loved it, gives me great hope. If my fellow nerds like it, than I probably will to.
Actually I think they are the worst guage for this kind of thing. I have friends that are huge Star Wars fans that still try and argue that Episode I-III were really good and not as bad as people say. Even though I can have my fanboy moments, I think fanboys are THE WORST people because they/we tend to be too forgiving, apologetic and self delusional to a beloved series...
Just to expand a little on who we trust to give us an idea of whether we'll like something, I tend to agree that the fanboys can be a poor gauge, but their it's-all-silver-linings view of the franchise is sort of half the reason why, IMO.
The fanboys can be extremists at both ends. Of course there are the uncritical enthusiasts who will love any expansion to their favored stuff, even when it's marginal or outright crummy. But, the other problem with fanboys is that there are also ultra purists who will rail against any change in the material, even if it works well. And, while I am not a purist, I do tend to dislike change just for change's sake or just to bring in standard template story devices that don't really help the movie. But, I also realize that there are reasons to make changes at times and sometimes the best movie isn't the one that stays closest to the source material or which keeps absolutely everything from previously established continuity.
All that said, as with any critics, fanboy opinions can be helpful if you know where they are coming from and which parts of what they have to say will reflect your views. When someone says
Superman II has Kal using Cellophane Vision and it sucks because there were a million other ways for him to do what he did without giving him some embarrassingly dumb power no one has heard of, I tend to agree. But, when someone says
LoTR sucks because they left out Tom Bombadil, I think back on the books and realize that it's one of the things a movie could easily do without, and I ignore the criticism. Just as with professional critics, the key is calibration of what they care about to what you care about.
I just hope they save some giant whales in this movie.
No, LoTR sucked because they made Arwen a GRRRRRRL. Actually, I rather enjoyed Fellowship but I felt no need to see the other two.
The 2 main things I look for in a Trek movie are a good story and entertaining character interaction. I loved the interplay of the characters in 2,3 and 4. Part six had some decent moments and I felt that First Contact was the best of the Next Generation movies for those 2 reasons.
Well, comments by people who've seen it are still 100% positive, as was the Rotten Tomatoes rating last time I checked.
It seems that the in-universe explanation for the reboot has satisfied the purists who would otherwise be screaming bloody murder at any changes they make.
I also like that fact that the second world release event was for the soldiers posted in Kuwait and they brought all the stars along to visit the troops, made it as big a to do as the main premiere. That was a good thing of them to do.
Gonna open soon...
And on a note of subtle yet ballsy advertising, last night's Fringe (also an Abrams production) had a crazy guy who claimed that there was a secret group converting people into soldiers for a war with renegade Romulans from the future send back to change history and that he himself was Spock, their target (which also fits with the clip for the new movie they showed during a commercial break). It fit in context of the show and didn't feel like and advertisement, but still sneaky sneaky.
Quote from: Glitch Girl on May 06, 2009, 02:18:49 PM
Gonna open soon...
And on a note of subtle yet ballsy advertising, last night's Fringe (also an Abrams production) had a crazy guy who claimed that there was a secret group converting people into soldiers for a war with renegade Romulans from the future send back to change history and that he himself was Spock, their target (which also fits with the clip for the new movie they showed during a commercial break). It fit in context of the show and didn't feel like and advertisement, but still sneaky sneaky.
Yeah, I saw that too, and thought something similar. Thought it was a nice touch they used someone from the original series as the crazy dude.
That too. I forgot to mention that.
During the episode it drove me crazy, I couldn't place him until he started talking Trek and then suddenly all became clear.
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on April 11, 2009, 01:52:30 AM
No, LoTR sucked because they made Arwen a GRRRRRRL. Actually, I rather enjoyed Fellowship but I felt no need to see the other two.
The 2 main things I look for in a Trek movie are a good story and entertaining character interaction. I loved the interplay of the characters in 2,3 and 4. Part six had some decent moments and I felt that First Contact was the best of the Next Generation movies for those 2 reasons.
BWA? I'm a bit perplexed by this statement of Arwen as a GRRRRL... you mean them glamming her up as played by Liv Tyler? Or something I'm not quite catching. While at first I am really surprised someone wouldn't want to watch the other two; everyone is so different that thinking it over I cannot say I am surprised that there is someone out there that wouldn't want to.
I might actually go see this, I've seen some of the Star Trek movies but I don't actually care for Star Trek. Some of the flicks I have enjoyed others meh... this one does look entertaining. They can do whatever and I'm cool with it as long as it is a good movie. Though I will be a bit dissapointed if Kirk doesn't sleep with at least one strange alien woman preferably a green or blue one.
I have watched neither episode nor movie of Star Trek.
But Simon Pegg is Scotty.
Thus, I am seeing this.
Quote from: Reepicheep on May 06, 2009, 07:44:40 PMBut Simon Pegg is Scotty.
Thus, I am seeing this.
That is über awesome (übsome)! I didn't know he was in the movie. He was great in
Hot Fuzz and other films.
I probably would have gone to see it anyway, though. I have probably caught repeats of most of the original series and
ST:TNG over the years, and scattered episodes of the
ST:DS9 and
ST:V. But, with the good things I have been hearing so far and the fact that Sylar (the best part of
Heroes) is Spock, I will probably take an afternoon off sometime in the next week and catch this.
I'm going to see Star Trek tonight at the IMAX, I can't wait!
Hopefully there will be some funny as hell interactions between Scotty and Sulu, two of my favorite comedic actors.
I'm hoping i don't geek out too much about it since I'll be with my girlfriend, but other folks are coming too, so i could geek out with them haha
OK, This movie was AWESOME!
like a great roller coaster ride from the get-go. and a rerally smart way to keep in in canon but with the freedm to expand the franchise. just amazing, i'm a born-again trekkie.
I am now cautiously optimistic regarding this movie.
As far as Arwen being a GRRRRRRL - they had her riding around on horseback in the Troll Shaws to save the hobbits from Nazgul and getting the drop on strider with a stinking scimitar. She was never a warrior in the books. The only warrior women in the books were the Rohirrim. I felt that it was a glaringly obvious and poorly done imposition of a modern sensibility on the character. Come to think of it, I also thought the way they insinuated that the pipe tobacco was pot was rather ham-handed and in poor taste.
Sorry, YL, but you are dead wrong there.
Tolkien does say in his books that female elves sometimes are warriors along with the men. They can be if they choose to be, but most are kept out of battle because they are treasures as the future mothers of elves. Since elves seem to multiply more slowly than humans, this appears to make a lot of sense.
You are correct that Arwen is no where said to be a warrior, though.
QuoteCome to think of it, I also thought the way they insinuated that the pipe tobacco was pot was rather ham-handed and in poor taste.
I saw no such indication, although it may be because of my ignorance of both pipe fillers.
Well, they made the Hobbits rather giddy and silly when they break into Saruman's "stash." I agreed that it was pretty stupid, but there you have Peter Jackson disrespecting his audience again. Seriously, have you ever listened to the commentaries on RotK? He's slightly disparaging in the previous ones, but he pretty much states flat out that movie-goers are idiots who won't be able to handle any but the most blatant and obvious plot-points. I don't know what bothers me more...that Hollywood keeps pitching movies to the lowest common denominator, or that their tactics work so disgustingly well.
Just got back from the movie...
...just go see it. Plain and simple.
RTT
Quote from: RTTingle on May 08, 2009, 02:02:30 AM
Just got back from the movie...
...just go see it. Plain and simple.
RTT
thanks for putting this thread back on trek ;)
I shall ignore that attempt at a pun, partly for my own sanity, and partly because I'm too lazy to track down and kill you.
I made the trek to my local cinema to see it, and it was kirk-tently worth it, to see the meat and bones of it all. (Sorry)
Quinto was spectacular as Spock, and the whole plot actually, surprisingly, for a Trek movie, made sense.
A few nitpicks:
Spoiler
1. No "I cannae do it Captain, I cannae break the laws of Physics"
2. Chekov's accent was too overdone. I mean, sheesh. Yes, once or twice it was humorous, but it was too much
3. OMG!!! I'M BLIND!!! THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT! TOO...MANY...LIGHTS!
4. "There's a Starbase nearby, lets go". So...um...why didn't you do that to begin with? I mean, staying in a cave is cool and all, but the timeline seemed to be "Spock got dumped on planet, 3 months later, attack on Vulcan, few hours later Kirk is dumped". Spock could have started walking and made it
5. So, its a Trek movie, so I practically expect this, but the laws of physics were just completely ignored and crapped all over :P
Other than that, pure awesome. I loved the small details, especially in regards to variety of lifeforms...
And Bones is unintentionally hilarious, if you know the lore. If not, well, his and Kirks interaction are still funny :D
I am not a big trek fan, and was not looking forward to the movie that much, but I really enjoyed it. As a friend of mine put it... Its Star Trek done like Star Wars. Even the actors I found to be really good. I'd definitely recommend it.
I did have one big annoyance/complaint:
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Why did Star Trek have to fall back on time travel AGAIN. That device has become such a crux for that series that it just makes me cringe and roll my eyes. And for that matter why did they have to try and somehow connect it to the original series. I understand the whole Alternate reality timeline allows them to break cannon and do their own thing without technically screwing up the event of the original show, but the whole thing is a reboot anyway, just have the confidence to reboot it. Throwing in Spock and trying to keep it connected to the original just seemed like a forced plot contrivance that they could have done without.
Sorry Googles, but that was the smartest thing they could have possibly done. First of all, alternate realities are already Trek cannon, so die hard fans who didn't like the reboot would assume that to be the case anyways, plus they'd be angry that a reboot had been even tried. Plus, the main Trek timeline is very long and established, with 5 series, ten movies, and numerous tie in material. This allows them to keep it all and even optionally return to the main timeline in the future if they wanted to do another series or something, which they can now potentially do without even having to worry about potentially harming their new film franchise.
Smart in the world of Star Trek perhaps, I'll give you that.
But as a general plot device in sci-fi, it's tired and overdone. The fact that its in a trek film and makes sense for that franchise doesn't prevent me from grumbling about it.
Spoiler
RE: Time Travel
It's useful not just for franchise aspects, but towards future storylines too.
I think it's rad that they went with time travel. think about it, Nero spent 25 years in the past, i'm pretty sure some future tech got unleashed. also I think something may have happened that made all tech universe wide substantially improve.
For example Uhura orders a "Cardassian Sunrise" at the bar... isn't that like a hundred years too early??
I have a feeling that this has opened up a lot of potential for new tech and designs to be used since its an alternate timeline, the series doesn't have to be slavish to original continuity.
As for the future being bright? I loved it, it was still lo-tech enough that they are on the frontier, but not quite as stylized as TNG ships etc.
I think of it as "industry-grade iPod design" - really stylish but not without edges and faults
QuoteWhy did Star Trek have to fall back on -a certain plot device- AGAIN.
Is is tired and overused in sci-fi? You betcha'. But take this into account...
- It was not done intentionally or planned. It was a "side effect" in a failed attempt to do something else.
- The heroes didn't use this plot device to save whales. Is it being used be a villain again? Yup... but it's not something he planned as much as stumbled upon and dealt with. My biggest beef with the flick is wondering what he was doing those 25 years and waiting.
- Nothing was "fixed". Honestly, if anything --- I find how this -certain plot device- was used, very refreshing.
RTT
Saw it in IMAX. Loved it. Lots of fun.
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Personally, I LOVED Chekov's accent. While it was thicker than the original's, and was used to humorous effect, I didn't think it was either too thick or too humorous to be believable, and I thought the actor pulled it off brilliantly.
Complaining that time travel is overused in sci-fi makes about as much sense as complaining that space travel is overused in sci-fi. It's a legitimate theme for the genre to explore. I agree that it's been somewhat overused in Star Trek, but I happen to think that its use in this case was brilliant. It's one of the few times I've ever seen time travel used in a sci-fi movie or tv show where everything about the way it was used was internally consistent. In fact, it was even scientifically plausible- as long as you subscribe to the "many worlds" interpretation of quantum theory (which really is no weirder or far fetched than any other interpretation). And, I think it was pretty much the only way to do a reboot without a) making many of the fans angry and b) opening the door to badly redone versions of classic Trek episodes.
I loved the fact that the music throughout the movie was highly reminiscent of the music in the original series.
My one, very minor quibble (aside from the bad breath of the guy sitting next to me) was that the climax seemed to be missing something. It needed something right at the moment when the villain was actually defeated- something that would make the audience incredulously say something I can't say in this forum, and, while it kind of almost happened, I felt like it missed the mark. Or maybe I'm just jaded...
Anyway, there were many, many little touches in this movie I thought were great, but I won't get into them right now. All I'll say is, it was well worth the IMAX price, and I'm glad I saw it.
Saw it on Imax myself..
... going to see it again tomorrow. :)
RTT
So good. Didn't have a weak point at all. Cast was perfect. And for being chock full of fan service, it totally surpassed the original series in awesome.
Maybe even Wrath of KAHN.
Tom Cruise was so great as Nero, and pretending that it was Eric Bana was weird, but I guess makes it a cool way to not credit Cruise in the secret role.
Quote from: BWPS on May 09, 2009, 05:45:14 AM
So good. Didn't have a weak point at all. Cast was perfect. And for being chock full of fan service, it totally surpassed the original series in awesome.
Maybe even Wrath of KAHN.
Tom Cruise was so great as Nero, and pretending that it was Eric Bana was weird, but I guess makes it a cool way to not credit Cruise in the secret role.
:huh:
Keep in mind too, that the alternate timeline thing allows them to do pretty much anything they like. One part of the movie from what I understand, especially I don't see how they would have dared to do otherwise. I mean, of course
Spoiler
The destruction of Vulcan and the near extinction of the Vulcans. Huge departure from the series there.
Cardassians have been a long-established presence in the Alpha Quadrant, so naturally their culture has been leaving footprints all over the place for some time, even during Kirk's Academy days. I guess it's just not a big, important part of the
Star Trek universe.
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I really liked the movie, but it made me pause to think that everything after the destruction of the Kelvin has been undone. Did I misinterpret that? I mean, the destruction of Vulcan would be seismic, and certainly nothing we know from TNG onward would be intact. Er...right?
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 09, 2009, 08:33:05 PM
Cardassians have been a long-established presence in the Alpha Quadrant, so naturally their culture has been leaving footprints all over the place for some time, even during Kirk's Academy days. I guess it's just not a big, important part of the Star Trek universe.
Spoiler
I really liked the movie, but it made me pause to think that everything after the destruction of the Kelvin has been undone. Did I misinterpret that? I mean, the destruction of Vulcan would be seismic, and certainly nothing we know from TNG onward would be intact. Er...right?
Spoiler
I thought it was made pretty clear that the time travel had created an alternate timeline. Nothing at the end undid anything- why would it have? On the other hand, since this is an alternate timeline, it doesn't affect things in the timeline we know- essentially, this is an alternate version of the Star Trek universe.
So, I gather this film is like Marvel's "Ultimate Universe" compared to the various other movies and series "616" universe?
Okay. I thought it was an alternate universe; I just wanted to double-check and save myself the coronary. :D
Quote from: The Hitman on May 09, 2009, 09:18:07 PM
So, I gather this film is like Marvel's "Ultimate Universe" compared to the various other movies and series "616" universe?
No.
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It's the same universe, just a different timeline- split in a different direction by events during (or, technically, just before) the (begining of the) film.
Plus major events occur in this movie in the original universe as well, meaning
Spoiler
Romulus (and likely Remus) has been destroyed and Spock is now missing and probably presumed dead, although he is actually alive and well in the new timeline. Spock disappeared on Romulus years ago, so that likely has little impact, but the destruction of Romulus is a MAJOR event that will permanently alter the ST universe should they even return to the original one. It would be a great starting point for a new series actually, with the Federation trying to explore the shattered and likely anarchic remains of the Romulan Empire, giving assistance, and dealing with the reprecussions.
Yikes! That's true! It's so bizarre that they would casually allow one of the cornerstone powers of the Alpha Quadrant to be annihilated like that. And on the heels of the dramatic political strife it underwent in Nemesis, and after the Dominion War, too!
Strange. The Alpha Quadrant without the Romulan Star Empire. Isn't anything in one piece anymore?! :D
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.
Good movie, but I was left wondering what happened to Winona Ryder's career?
Awesome movie! Did anyone see Kumar? :lol:
What's up with the engine room? I know its the guts of the ship, but did it have to look like a factory?
Great movie! Star Trek needed to be revamped. The only thing really advanced about TNG is the Holodeck by today's standards.
Also....There is no replacement for Nichelle Nichols.
Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Film As 'Fun, Watchable' (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=a-section)
...I was about to question that but then realized it was the Onion. Heh.
That was some kind of funny. The ONN is awesome. Their articles weren't bad but nothing compared to the crazy stuff they say on there.
Quote from: Alaric on May 10, 2009, 03:09:28 PM
Trekkies Bash New Star Trek Film As 'Fun, Watchable' (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=a-section)
"... early reviews are calling it a delightful action adventure movie and a sure fire hit."
"No wonder the fans feel betrayed here."
Bwa ha ha ha. That's hilarious. Great bit. On par with their Iron Man bit from last summer.
RTT
The audience applauded the night I saw it. And two friends in other parts of the country said the same thing happened when they saw it. The film is delightfully entertaining and true-hearted.
Wow, rave city. I guess I'm alone in not loving this movie - it was pretty good, I'd say the fourth best Star Trek movie, but that's mostly on the strength of character work and directing.
The plot itself relied too much on coincidences and had a number of head-shakers (even JJ Abrams has acknowledged problems with the script - rumour is that the script was in the midst of rewrites when the Writer's Guild strike hit, and they started filming with what they had). Still, it was pretty good, and could have been much worse.
Aleric, hilarious! Thanks for sharing.
I saw the film on Mother's Day - and won a sucker bet from my wife - who thought the theater would be empty because who would take their mother to a Star Trek movie?
This was one brilliant movie! I keep hearing that JJ Abrams wasn't a big trekkie fan and had to surround himself by the "crazed ones" to make a film that would appeal to old timers like myself, as well as a brand new generation.
I'm not so sure that's true. The first really big Star Trek movie was "the Wrath of Khan" - which followed up on one of the TV's shows most popular episodes. I think Abrams did the exact same thing here - though I'm not hearing it mentioned anywhere. Another of the most popular TOS episodes was "Mirror, Mirror" - where Kirk (plus two) wind up in an alternate Star Trek universe. And all the familiar faces in the alternate universe were similar but not matching.
I think the only part of this new Star Trek that left me feeling sad was seeing the new Bones. He was great but he was so dead on that sadly reminded me of the loss of Deforest Kelley. The new Scotty was also great but different enough that he just bring back any ghosts for me.
The producers/director made absolutely the right choice in not bringing back Shatner for a cameo - and Nimoy was indespensible in his role. I had given up on the TV show Fringe because it had gotten a little to silly for me ... but once I read that Nimoy would be appearing in a recurring role, I added it to my DVR, again.
Can't believe what a great movie season this spring/summer is shaping up to be. And now ... I can't wait for the Star Trek DVD.
Quote from: danhagen on May 10, 2009, 05:59:27 PM
The audience applauded the night I saw it. And two friends in other parts of the country said the same thing happened when they saw it. The film is delightfully entertaining and true-hearted.
Same here when I saw it.
My girlfriend was freaked out, she's never heard of people applauding a movie before. I sheepishly told her that I wanted to clap too, but I didn't want to embarrass her and our friends :P
Ha! The audience applauded and some old guy was openly weeping at the end. :D
Which is great. I'm glad to see that there's still a wide audience for the Star Trek franchise. Most of the audience was men aged 24-50 (myself included), but there were quite a few women and younger folk too. Most people were in groups.
I really liked the movie, but I hope this "alternate universe" doesn't preclude any future projects in the original universe. It'd be a shame to leave all that history by the side of the road.
And I'm still mourning the Romulan Star Empire.
I came across this today on PvP. If it proves true, I think that I will really love this movie:
QuoteMy father introduced me to Star Trek. We used to watch the original series whenever it came on.
One of my favorite memories of watching the show with my dad might be a little bit embarrassing for him. But I'm going to share it with you anyway.
One time, my dad cried at an episode of Star Trek. It wasn't any special episode either. It was probably one he had seen a million times before and never cried at. It ended like every episode of Star Trek ended, with Kirk and Bones laughing at Spocks inability to understand their illogical emotions. Over the credits, Kirk gives Spock a sharp slap to the arm and my dad laughed out loud. Then he paused and he got a bit overwhelmed. He got misty. Happy misty. Sentimental misty.
When I asked him why he was tearing up, he simply smiled at me and replied. "Because they're friends."
And I remember my mother coming in and doting on him and finding it endearing that he cared so deeply for fictional characters.
You're going to hear a lot about this new Trek. People are going to talk about the action, effects and the casting. They're going to even talk about how careful the film-makers were to weave this new series into existing Trek continuity. Those are all great reasons to see Star Trek. Make no mistake though, the reason you'll love this movie is the same reason my dad loved the original. "Because they're friends."
I got a teared up a little at the end of Star Trek. They got me by using the original theme music in the ending credits. My dad was there with us to see the movie. It felt good. It felt like home.
I can assure you... this is most definitely my father's Star Trek.
Hopefully my father will be able to make it up here for my graduation this weekend, and if he does I'd really like to see this movie with him. It was a similar thing with us, after all. He introduced me to Star Trek, and I have a lot of good memories of hanging out with him on a Saturday when I was a kid, watching Kirk kick alien butt.
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 11, 2009, 06:16:52 PM
And I'm still mourning the Romulan Star Empire.
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I thought the Romulans were saved, because of Nero's actions, and because Spock has knowledge to prevent it from happening.
I think it's really interesting having the Vulcans as a diasporic community. It gives a bit more importance to the mission of the Federation (prime directive and protecting all life)
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 11, 2009, 06:16:52 PM
I really liked the movie, but I hope this "alternate universe" doesn't preclude any future projects in the original universe. It'd be a shame to leave all that history by the side of the road.
For what it's worth, I believe that the upcoming Star Trek MMORPG will take place in the original timeline.
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Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 11, 2009, 06:16:52 PM
And I'm still mourning the Romulan Star Empire.
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I thought the Romulans were saved, because of Nero's actions, and because Spock has knowledge to prevent it from happening.
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They may have been saved in this new timeline (although, since those events take plaec a long time after the events of the movie, we don't really know yet), but in the original timeline, the one Spock and Nero came from, they haven't been saved. Nothing Spock and Nero have done in the past will have an effect on that timeline. Remember, Nero wasn't trying to save the Romulan Empire- he was trying to get revenge, pure and simple.
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Yes. Romulus had to be destroyed in the original universe in order for Nero and Spock to be drawn into the past, into the alternate universe.
Sigh. The Star Trek wiki Memory Alpha states that Romulus (and consequently Remus) has been annihilated.
Lame.
I loved it. Cast was prefect and I found the whole thing exciting, funny, and enjoyable.
I'm a reasonably big Trek fan, but I'm not actually much of a TOS fan, but that didn't bother me at all.
It's sad that Wolverine made more money in it's opening weekend than Trek.
Quote from: Midnite on May 10, 2009, 06:04:34 AM
Awesome movie! Did anyone see Kumar? :lol:
Was Kal Penn actually in it? I thought I saw someone who might have been him for a second.
Just saw it last night. Will probably go back before it leaves theaters. I never do that.
Syler- Spock (Spockler?) was pretty good, but the guy hat did the best interpretation was Karl Urban, the guy who played Dr. McCoy. Perfect balance of mimicing DeForrest Kelly and adding new layers to the character. And Simon Pegg stole the show.
The only nitpick I have is with Nero. Eric Bana, in my humble opinion, did not bring his "A- game" to the film. He just seemed kinda... there.
This movie made me not wretch at the thought of Chris Pine as Hal Jordan.
Quote from: Podmark on May 11, 2009, 09:16:24 PM
Was Kal Penn actually in it? I thought I saw someone who might have been him for a second.
I thought I saw him too, but I could have been wrong.
It looked like him to me, but it isn't
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/RenegadeIrl/?action=view¤t=vlcsnap-4037551.png
I figured he'd be too busy with his new White House job to do a movie, if he can't be Kutner anymore. :(
Ok, ok, ok!!! We all seen the new Star Trek movie and agree it is the Bomb! A truly great movie. So lets talk about what we would like to see in the sequal. I was looking at Collider.com and on there, there was the Host video conferrencing with one of his fellow rumor site buddies. And they was talking about what they would like to see in the sequal. Now the friend said he had an idea....He said (oh and this next statement is spoiler for those who haven't seen the movie yet) :spoiler: since Nero changed the History of the characters "Kill off one of the original members of the crew and replace them with a new character" :spoiler: and when he said that my heart droped!!!.....But that is a darn good idea! :blink: That would cause the same uproar as the Death of Spock caused! What do you all think?
I absolutely loved this movie and I actually stood up and clapped at the end (luckily I was not alone).
Quote from: style on May 12, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
Ok, ok, ok!!! We all seen the new Star Trek movie and agree it is the Bomb! A truly great movie.
I don't. Agree, that is.
Quote from: style on May 12, 2009, 08:28:46 PM
"Kill off one of the original members of the crew and replace them with a new character"
Can the new character be named Welshy?
Welshyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!
Quote from: AfghanAnt on May 12, 2009, 09:02:45 PM
I absolutely loved this movie and I actually stood up and clapped at the end (luckily I was not alone).
Yeah that happened when I saw it too.
Quote from: BWPS on May 12, 2009, 02:37:03 PM
It looked like him to me, but it isn't
http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww271/RenegadeIrl/?action=view¤t=vlcsnap-4037551.png
I figured he'd be too busy with his new White House job to do a movie, if he can't be Kutner anymore. :(
Yeah I wasn't sure. I looked around but haven't been able to confirm.
But his part in Star Trek probably would have been filmed before he retired, wouldn't it? Also I miss Kutner :(
QuoteSo lets talk about what we would like to see in the sequal.
Spoiler
NO MORE FREAKIN TIME TRAVEL!!
If you are not Marty McFly, Dr. Who, or Fred Ward in Timerider.... you dont get to rely of time travel so much.
Its a crux.
...ok Rant over.
In all honesty I would like to see them take the fun and youthfull energy this cast had and get some new writers and take it someplace bizarre and unexpected. If you are gonna do the whole alternate timeline thing and kill off the vulcans and give yourself the freedom to change stuff, go crazy. I dont want to see them just try and rehash old trek with youthful enthusiasm, I wanna see them come up with their own thing. Something that makes classic trek fans go "HUH?!?" and us more casual fans go "Why didn't they do this before?"
Frankly, I'd rather see a new TV series featuring these actors/characters than a new series of movies.
After "Enterprise" crashed, I can't imagine a new Star Trek TV series in on the cards.
Besides, movies is where the $$$ are at.
Quote from: Star on May 13, 2009, 06:00:15 AM
After "Enterprise" crashed, I can't imagine a new Star Trek TV series in on the cards.
Besides, movies is where the $$$ are at.
I didn't say I expected that to happen (I don't)- just that that's what I'd
like to see.
Seconded, Alaric. It won't happen, but I'd really like to see a new Star Trek series set in the 24th Century, after the Dominion War. I mean, they invested 15 years in that timeframe--how could I not want to see more?
Unfortunately, the general public has many reasons for not wanting to see more. :o
Ok, is Tom Cruise really Nero? Or is that just some wishful thinking?
Its that Bana guy as Nero, isn't it?
Quote from: thanoson on May 13, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
Ok, is Tom Cruise really Nero? Or is that just some wishful thinking?
Everyone else in the world seems to be convinced that I'm full of crap. But I know it was him!
Just like you knew it was Kumar? :P
In the sequel, I would like to see
1) Sulu be acknowledged as gay, in tribute to George T.
2) Chris Pine finds a way to save Shatner's Kirk from falling to death. Shatner then dies a truly heroic death as he eats a poison meal meant to kill one of the few remaining Vulcans, Ambassador Spock.
3) Have Chris Pine eat something really exotic and comment that if he keeps enjoying food as much as this, he's going to get really fat someday.
4) While investigating a form of energy never previously encountered beofre, Bones meets and falls in love with the women who in the original series turns out to be the Salt Monster - but in this version she is ironically turned INTO a pillar of salt because she looks back at the energy after being told not to.
5) While investigating a distress signal, the crew of the Enterprise encounters an alien life form very similar to humans but who live under a red sun. The planet is about to explode and somehow Scotty's shields are depleted to 5%. Kirk realizes a lone ship has been shot from the planet into space on a trajectory that will bring it to Earth ... and that the ship is powered by a super powerful dilithium crystal, which Scotty is able to transport over to the Enterprise and save the ship. Somehow the baby in the ship dies a heroic death.
Diora Baird aka Green Alien Babe, needs a bigger role in the future sequel. :thumbup:
I hope in the next one they go visit the best planet ever: Ceti Alpha FaiVe! (http://thiiscetiahpla5.ytmnd.com/)
I hope we get t osee Bones and Jadzia get down....or did that happen before he joined the Enterprise? No matter it would make a cool time travel event.
Also, the Klingon head thing can be properly explained.
EDIT: Not Jadzia...the host before the host before the host.
And I repeat!!!
Quote from: thalaw2 on May 14, 2009, 10:34:13 AM
....the Klingon head thing can be properly explained.
No imagination, poor makeup budget back in the '60s. Explained! ;)
Worf alluded to the head ridge thing once, as did an episode of Enterprise. I forget what they said, but it made a little bit of sense, if I recall.
Worf said "We do not discuss it with outsiders." when confronted with the difference between Old Trek Klingons and NextGen Klingons in the "Trials and Tribblations" episode of DS9.
What? I loved that episode. :D
Didn't watch Enterprise enough to know how they addressed it, though.
Quote from: Glitch Girl on May 14, 2009, 02:24:26 PM
Worf said "We do not discuss it with outsiders." when confronted with the difference between Old Trek Klingons and NextGen Klingons in the "Trials and Tribblations" episode of DS9.
What? I loved that episode. :D
Didn't watch Enterprise enough to know how they addressed it, though.
I heard that they apparently explained it fully on Enterprise, but I barely watched the show, myself. In any case, I think explaining it further than Worf's comment would be a mistake. That was the perfect explanation, as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I'm a very inquisitive person when it comes to my favorite TV shows, but as far as Klingonese head ridges is concerned, I'm okay with not having a great explanation. I can just accept that the original series didn't go all-out with the makeup.
Ah: Memory Alpha (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Klingon) tells me that Levodian flu caused infected Klingons to lose their ridges. Ta-da.
Hi folks, long time, just dying to discuss Star Trek the latest creation, but I can't recall how to do the SPOILER open/close trick. Didn't it used to be in a stickied thread in this forum? IMHO it still should be. Anyhow I liked the movie a lot, but there were hella lots of inconsistencies, continuity issues within the film.
Quote from: Elmir Fud on May 14, 2009, 04:27:33 PM
Hi folks, long time, just dying to discuss Star Trek the latest creation, but I can't recall how to do the SPOILER open/close trick. Didn't it used to be in a stickied thread in this forum? IMHO it still should be. Anyhow I liked the movie a lot, but there were hella lots of inconsistencies, continuity issues within the film.
Doing the "spoiler" thing's actually a lot easier than it used to be. Just highlight the the section you want to include in the spoiler and hit the "spoiler" button- the blinking red-and-yellow word balloon thingy right above the :ff: and :ffvstr: smiley thingies.
Or, you could just quote someone else, erase everything except the spoiler part, and replace the contents of the spoiler with what you want to say.
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 11, 2009, 06:16:52 PMAnd I'm still mourning the Romulan Star Empire.
same here, I'm hoping this timeline has them get saved(Kinda like the second time Tasha Yar died).
Quote from: Alaric on May 14, 2009, 02:43:16 PMQuote from: Glitch Girl on May 14, 2009, 02:24:26 PMWorf said "We do not discuss it with outsiders." when confronted with the difference between Old Trek Klingons and NextGen Klingons in the "Trials and Tribblations" episode of DS9.
What? I loved that episode. :D
Didn't watch Enterprise enough to know how they addressed it, though.
I heard that they apparently explained it fully on Enterprise, but I barely watched the show, myself. In any case, I think explaining it further than Worf's comment would be a mistake. That was the perfect explanation, as far as I'm concerned.
It was "Levodian flu", but
Spoiler
Levodian flu was the result of Klingons experimenting with Metagenics. They were trying to copy Soong and his "Augments".
Basically, the virus made them Klingon/human hybrids, which was quite dishonorable, hence why they won't talk about it.
I think it says a lot about the movie that I didn't even notice similarities until I saw this (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892)
...hahaha. That's entertaining. But Kirk is much more like Han Solo then Luke Skywalker. ;)
Quote from: catwhowalksbyhimself on May 14, 2009, 07:47:04 PMBasically, the virus made them Klingon/human hybrids, which was quite dishonorable, hence why they won't talk about it.
And worse their hubris would have spelled the end of the Klingon Empire! (if Phlox hadn't found a cure that is)
The new timeline needs to have Kirk collecting Romulan women rather than random aliens.... And maybe a few half-Human-half-Romulan Kirk jr.'s.
I'd be interested in seeing alien races that first appeared in TNG and afterward, but which obviously were interacting with the Federation back in Kirk's day. Cardassians, the Breen, and so on.
Oh, and more Tholians.
I hope they avoid the Borg like the Plague. IMO the Borg started out as a great idea that alluded to old skool sci-fi but then went completely to crap.
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Now that the franchise has gone in this new direction what will it do for the spread of the Klingon Empire...no Romulans to keep them in check.
Well, in the TNG-era universe, the Federation is holding things together with string and hope. They still have the Dominion to contend with. That peace is tenuous at best. Add the Borg, the Klingons, the Cardassians, and a newly gone-to-heck super freak-out Romulan Star Empire, and Starfleet's going to be up to its nacelles in phaser fire.
But yeah--the Borg were thoroughly explored in Voyager. Let's get a new anti-Federation menace. Either explore minor races or develop new ones. Even the Romulans, Klingons and Cardassians--Star Trek's tradition antagonistic races--have largely been one-dimensional. The best alien races, and the best stories in Star Trek, are the ones that ultimately pit Federation ideals against human nature. That's why DS9's Dominion War had some of the best moments in Star Trek history.
One of the too-few great things about Enterprise was the Xindi, a coalition of multiple races that evolved on the same planet. The first time I heard about them I wondered how it never had occurred to me before, having more than one alien race from a single planet. Well, it kind of occurred to me; it wasn't an entirely new concept. But the Xindi were interesting, and it's too bad they were just bad guys.
Quote from: thalaw2 on May 15, 2009, 01:12:49 AM
I hope they avoid the Borg like the Plague. IMO the Borg started out as a great idea that alluded to old skool sci-fi but then went completely to crap.
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Now that the franchise has gone in this new direction what will it do for the spread of the Klingon Empire...no Romulans to keep them in check.
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I hope you mean Vulcans :P
Actually, for Trek fans, I'm surprised at the amount of confusion this has generated. Romulus was destroyed in timeline B, the future, but having returned to the past and created timeline A, the past onwards, Romulus is no longer annihilated. It may still be annihilated in an as yet unforseen future, but its still there right now.
Vulcan, however, was less of a 'big player' in the intergalactic wars than most other planets. They are in 'the background', as such, more of a diplomatic position and a policy of non-interference than anything else. I don't think it'll affect the overall arc of history TOO much, but then again, I'm not an encyclopedia of Vulcan interactions, so there could probably be some huge spark off due to something that happened in season 2 episode 12 of TOS :P
Oh, and yes, avoid the Borg. They were nice to begin with, but First Contact and Voyager made them overused and boring, IMO. I did like the Elite Force games, though :lol:
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The Vulcans are responsible for much of Federation technology, so it could mean a less advanced future for the federation, as well as most Vulcan characters appearing in all the series never being born or having died. It also drastically reduces the overall population of the Federation and of Starfleet, since Vulcans were the second most common Starfleet race.
And since the technology needed to save Romulus also comes from the Vulcans, it means by killing Vulcan, the bad guy pretty much guaranteed that Romulus will be destroyed in this timeline too.
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I see your point there Cat. But also with old Spock we may see a slight increase in the tech at first if he is willing to give some of the knowledge and other equations he already knows now to the current Federation. So really we could see a relative BOOM in tech then a stagnation to where we were or even before or we could see other advancements earlier.
What I wanna know is, where were the time police guys from Voyager when you need them? :P
:D
Vulcans were a large part of getting the Federation up to speed technologically, but the 24th Century saw humans grow into themselves as a prime mover of Federation policy and culture. Earth's engineers are revered even in the Dominion.
It's been a long time since the Federation had to lean on any particular race to get along. And it's not that the Vulcans have been marginalized--they just aren't pulling all the strings anymore.
This is getting a bit confusing. Some of us are talking about Kirk's era, and some of us are talking about the 24th Century. And I'm just running back and forth, commenting on anything that passes. :D
I kind asee where he's going but I also see vulcans as a whole ebing content to let other people do the actual work. Now? who knows what the destruction of their homeworld has given them the incentive to do.
Personally I think a new war with the Klingons is the way to go. Or go with something new or underused like the Tholians or something.
Good idea, Podmark. In the next movie, it'd be cool to see the Klingon Empire using the Vulcan tragedy as an opportunity to conquer the Federation.
I think in the timeline of the new movie we'll see more advanced technology - after all Nero's advanced ship was hanging out in the past for 25 years waiting for Spock to show up; they had to come into contact with other people occasionally, and even that slight contact could give people ideas of where to take technology, as well as their weapon systems. Oh, plus Old Spock's whirligig ship survived, didn't it?
Quote from: Talavar on May 15, 2009, 06:37:30 PM
Oh, plus Old Spock's whirligig ship survived, didn't it?
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Didn't Spock crash it into Nero's ship?
Yup. And it was called Jellyfish. WTF? :lol:
Quote from: Star on May 14, 2009, 12:12:04 AM
Diora Baird aka Green Alien Babe, needs a bigger role in the future sequel. :thumbup:
Wasn't she on one of those non-enterprise ships that got destroyed? :P
ship destroyed but she got away in an escape pod :D. I know, it's a fanboy's dream.
What gets me is reading some deeply high-brow epic geeky posts on the Startrek.com boards that say time travel only works in such and such a way, and this is not canon Star Trek, but they can't explain how Tasha Yar's daughter is a commander in the Romulan fleet either.
Size comparions of the starships.
(http://www.kellcom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/enterprise-vs-bsg-corrected-new.jpg)
A Corellian corvette? Why not just put up a X-wing for reference? Why compare a ship of the line to a civilian transport/blockade runner? It's apples and oranges. Come on, how about a Victory class Star Destroyer at least?!? Even a Nebulon-B Frigate would be better. Of course, to be most useful, it would probably have to be an Imperial class Star Destroyer...
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on May 16, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
A Corellian corvette? Why not just put up a X-wing for reference? Why compare a ship of the line to a civilian transport/blockade runner? It's apples and oranges. Come on, how about a Victory class Star Destroyer at least?!? Even a Nebulon-B Frigate would be better. Of course, to be most useful, it would probably have to be an Imperial class Star Destroyer...
I thought
I was a nerd.
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Quote from: yell0w_lantern on May 16, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
A Corellian corvette? Why not just put up a X-wing for reference? Why compare a ship of the line to a civilian transport/blockade runner? It's apples and oranges. Come on, how about a Victory class Star Destroyer at least?!? Even a Nebulon-B Frigate would be better. Of course, to be most useful, it would probably have to be an Imperial class Star Destroyer...
I thought I was a nerd.
My thoughts exactly. :blink:
You are. You all are. ;)
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 17, 2009, 01:42:29 AM
You are. You all are. ;)
I still don't know if I was filled with awe or disgust though. :P
Me neither. But since I'm a nerd too, I think I'm filled with quiet contempt and mild acceptance.
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on May 16, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
A Corellian corvette? Why not just put up a X-wing for reference? Why compare a ship of the line to a civilian transport/blockade runner? It's apples and oranges. Come on, how about a Victory class Star Destroyer at least?!? Even a Nebulon-B Frigate would be better. Of course, to be most useful, it would probably have to be an Imperial class Star Destroyer...
Let's just cut to the chase and break out the
Executor.
So the new timeline Enterprise is supposed to be bigger than the old timeline original Enterprise? Why? Has any explanation for that been given?
And yet it was still built planet-side.... Dumb.
So, just saw it and was awed. It looked great. Also, you want ships, here you go.
http://www.people.iup.edu/pnwm/comparison.gif
Oh, I'm part nerd too.
The Trade Federation Battleship was larger than an Imperial Class Star Destroyer?! Something about that is just so very wrong.
Quote from: Podmark on May 17, 2009, 06:55:11 PM
Quote from: yell0w_lantern on May 16, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
A Corellian corvette? Why not just put up a X-wing for reference? Why compare a ship of the line to a civilian transport/blockade runner? It's apples and oranges. Come on, how about a Victory class Star Destroyer at least?!? Even a Nebulon-B Frigate would be better. Of course, to be most useful, it would probably have to be an Imperial class Star Destroyer...
Let's just cut to the chase and break out the Executor.
Oooh, a
Super Star Destroyer! That's just plain unfair. :)
Interesting.... so the vast majority of ships in Star Wars really aren't that big..... It's just that there's a few insanely large ones.
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Interesting.... so the vast majority of ships in Star Wars really aren't that big..... It's just that there's a few insanely large ones.
"That's no moon..."
Quote from: thanoson on May 18, 2009, 01:11:04 AM
So, just saw it and was awed. It looked great. Also, you want ships, here you go.
http://www.people.iup.edu/pnwm/comparison.gif
Oh, I'm part nerd too.
Oh my god...it's full of star(ship)s!
Quote from: Gremlin on May 18, 2009, 03:36:43 AMQuote from: marhawkman on May 18, 2009, 02:24:07 AMInteresting.... so the vast majority of ships in Star Wars really aren't that big..... It's just that there's a few insanely large ones.
"That's no moon..."
Yeah really... which is why it stands as one of the iconic moments in film history. Such a deeply compelling way to have the heroes go "Oh crap, we're so screwed...."
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Quote from: Gremlin on May 18, 2009, 03:36:43 AMQuote from: marhawkman on May 18, 2009, 02:24:07 AMInteresting.... so the vast majority of ships in Star Wars really aren't that big..... It's just that there's a few insanely large ones.
"That's no moon..."
Yeah really... which is why it stands as one of the iconic moments in film history. Such a deeply compelling way to have the heroes go "Oh crap, we're so screwed...."
Until they find the "blow it up" button, that is. ;)
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Quote from: Gremlin on May 18, 2009, 03:36:43 AMQuote from: marhawkman on May 18, 2009, 02:24:07 AMInteresting.... so the vast majority of ships in Star Wars really aren't that big..... It's just that there's a few insanely large ones.
"That's no moon..."
Yeah really... which is why it stands as one of the iconic moments in film history. Such a deeply compelling way to have the heroes go "Oh crap, we're so screwed...."
Until they find the "blow it up" button, that is. ;)
But it's only two meters wide, it'd be impossible to hit, even for a computer!
I forgot to mention...Did anyone else catch the 619 reference in the movie? I thought it was really strange to see a link between ST and perhaps WWE. Then on RAW The Miz mentions Star Trek. What is the connection?
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Quote from: Gremlin on May 18, 2009, 03:36:43 AMQuote from: marhawkman on May 18, 2009, 02:24:07 AMInteresting.... so the vast majority of ships in Star Wars really aren't that big..... It's just that there's a few insanely large ones.
"That's no moon..."
Yeah really... which is why it stands as one of the iconic moments in film history. Such a deeply compelling way to have the heroes go "Oh crap, we're so screwed...."
Until they find the "blow it up" button, that is. ;)
But it's only two meters wide, it'd be impossible to hit, even for a computer!
2 meters? Why, that's no bigger than a womp rat. :thumbup:
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Quote from: Gremlin on May 18, 2009, 03:36:43 AMQuote from: marhawkman on May 18, 2009, 02:24:07 AMInteresting.... so the vast majority of ships in Star Wars really aren't that big..... It's just that there's a few insanely large ones.
"That's no moon..."
Yeah really... which is why it stands as one of the iconic moments in film history. Such a deeply compelling way to have the heroes go "Oh crap, we're so screwed...."
Until they find the "blow it up" button, that is. ;)
But it's only two meters wide, it'd be impossible to hit, even for a computer!
2 meters? Why, that's no bigger than a womp rat. :thumbup:
"Is that so? Tell me, when you were going after your particular varmint, were there a thousand other, what did you call it, 'womp-rats' armed with power rifles firing up at you?"
Quote from: thalaw2 on May 19, 2009, 12:33:00 PMI forgot to mention...Did anyone else catch the 619 reference in the movie? I thought it was really strange to see a link between ST and perhaps WWE. Then on RAW The Miz mentions Star Trek. What is the connection?
Did anyone think to look through the credits to see if it was funded by Vince McMahon?
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Quote from: thalaw2 on May 19, 2009, 12:33:00 PMI forgot to mention...Did anyone else catch the 619 reference in the movie? I thought it was really strange to see a link between ST and perhaps WWE. Then on RAW The Miz mentions Star Trek. What is the connection?
Did anyone think to look through the credits to see if it was funded by Vince McMahon?
I smell a conspiracy. That's CON-spriacy
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Quote from: Gremlin on May 18, 2009, 03:36:43 AMQuote from: marhawkman on May 18, 2009, 02:24:07 AMInteresting.... so the vast majority of ships in Star Wars really aren't that big..... It's just that there's a few insanely large ones.
"That's no moon..."
Yeah really... which is why it stands as one of the iconic moments in film history. Such a deeply compelling way to have the heroes go "Oh crap, we're so screwed...."
Yes.
Until they find the "blow it up" button, that is. ;)
But it's only two meters wide, it'd be impossible to hit, even for a computer!
2 meters? Why, that's no bigger than a womp rat. :thumbup:
"Is that so? Tell me, when you were going after your particular varmint, were there a thousand other, what did you call it, 'womp-rats' armed with power rifles firing up at you?"
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Quote from: thalaw2 on May 19, 2009, 12:33:00 PMI forgot to mention...Did anyone else catch the 619 reference in the movie? I thought it was really strange to see a link between ST and perhaps WWE. Then on RAW The Miz mentions Star Trek. What is the connection?
Did anyone think to look through the credits to see if it was funded by Vince McMahon?
I smell a conspiracy. That's CON-spriacy
Actually, I think you mean *gasps* KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!- spiracy.
Hmm, my actual response got bumped by all those quotes. I was going to say, "yes".
weird. O_o'
Star Trek Gag Reel (http://yfrog.us/5rstartrekgagreelz)
^_^
Taken down :(
Updated with another link.