An idea i have been thinking about, with people throwing ideas and interests in to the old skinning challenges again, what about an alternative idea to this.
Basically a tournament people ever and are split into pairs, each would skin the same character and then each would be put before a group of judges or a poll and the winner moves on to the next round to get a new brief and so on and so on
but evil you handsome rugged man you wont people just vote for there favorite skinners you may ask, and i will reply get the hell outta my house
but i've thought about this, each participant would complete there skin and then send it's zip to a unbais member who will post the images
eg tom vs AA would both send there skins to myself and i would post a comparison image with no names and such
so who's up for it, and yes it could get nasty and ugly is certain people don't win or arn't happy with the results, but we are all mature and responsible enough to deal with that
so who's up for it or are ya all a bunch of sissy's :P
I would LOVE to be a judge, and this idea does seem kind of fun, and competitive.
I like this. It scares the crap outta me, but I like it. I'm in if you ever get it going.
I would be up for losing a contest like this.
Grah! Can't trust anyone these days...
I'm in as whatever, depending upon what time frame we're looking at... should be good the next month or so though, got my last 3 finals this week and I've already finished my work on one.
So the idea is to have multiple people skin the same character to see which one is the "best"?
It's an interesting idea, but hardly fair. There are many diff levels of skinning expertise possessed by the various skinners in the community; they all create within their own abilities and to put 1 against another is somewhat intimidating. I think Billdamn said it best. There are a number of skinners that are considered the best here, C6 for example, (tho' I don't know if he skins still); who would want to go up against him? There is also the fact that it may cause some issues if the person who feels they SHOULD win, doesn't. I'm just voicing my opinion on this & these may not be issues that can't be overcome, but just something to consider.
I would have to echo Aly Cat's sentiment.
It's evident that a handful of people would ultimately win a competition like this, which would make me lose any motivation in actually participating. If the purpose of the competition is for 'hardcore' constructive criticism.. isn't that what everyone's skinning thread is for? That's just me speaking, though.
I think it would be more effective if we had a "hardcore critique" thread.. letting people post a particular skin where others could contribute their ideas.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on May 12, 2009, 07:13:18 PM
So the idea is to have multiple people skin the same character to see which one is the "best"?
yes and no, 2 people would skin the same character say if it had 8 people in the first round, tier 1 would have 2 people who would skin say cap america, tier 2 with another two people would skin superman and so forth
Quote from: Aly Cat on May 12, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
It's an interesting idea, but hardly fair. There are many diff levels of skinning expertise possessed by the various skinners in the community; they all create within their own abilities and to put 1 against another is somewhat intimidating. I think Billdamn said it best. There are a number of skinners that are considered the best here, C6 for example, (tho' I don't know if he skins still); who would want to go up against him? There is also the fact that it may cause some issues if the person who feels they SHOULD win, doesn't. I'm just voicing my opinion on this & these may not be issues that can't be overcome, but just something to consider.
it is something i thought about and why i suggested the whole thing be anonymous you wouldn't know who you were against until it was shown on the boards, I understand your fears aly and i agree with them to an extent, the main focus behind this idea was to get the boards back to pushing the limit of everyone's talent.
i really feel that in the younger more popular days people grew a lot more in there art as others offered feedback and you wanted to do better to prove yourself, i feel myself included a lot of people have fallen into a comfort zone, and i know that last comment is going to annoy a lot of people but it's the way i feel
That's totally understandable, but say YOU skinned spidey & then discovered you were up against C6, that's kind of a let down & no real challenge when he is concidered 1 of the better skinners here. Laughing Paradox makes a good point on how losing could affect that skinner, people tend to be a bit thin skinned where their skins are concerned and if you are just starting or not been around a while you are ALREADY nervous about displaying your work here to everyone; being told that your stuff wasn't good enough to win can be disheartening. Again, I'm just voicing my opinion; I was just pointing out my concerns on the subject, not any fears. :cool:
agreed and understood, and it's points that yourserlf and LP are making which are some of the first obstacles i thought of with this idea. which is why i said in the first post, that things could get nasty and unless you were able to take it don't get into the game.
basically it's like any sport you will always find someone who has more skill or been practicing longer, if you don't want to ave to face that challenge then don't play the sport
I would say instead of making the matchups free-for-alls, I'd put them on "tiers" based on the stuff they know how to do... Like, Tier 1 would be skinners who can do base recolors, Tier 2 would be able to do minor extras and some sort of highlighting technique, Tier 3 has made(or has the capacity to make) at least one full-fledged base, etc.
Basically, that sort of thing would put you and Pod in the same Tier, AA and C6 in the same Tier, etc.
Also, I'd say maybe instead of having a wolverine skin off or something, maybe like a redesign of a character. For me, a better design can often trump a better technical job, and some people have more skill at that.
I think even anonymity would be a problem, as some skinners (C6 being the most obvious in my mind) have really really specific styles. Perhaps if you also limited the base skins? Say, everyone has to use Gryphon's bases. Altering the musculature might make it a little easier. But that might make it more difficult, because some people might loathe those bases.
But I don't skin, so I can't say I speak for anyone.
EDIT: 'Mato's got a good idea. I like that.
I actually like the points made by Tomato & Gremlin, the only issue I see with Gremlins suggestion on using specific bases, you would have a TON under that depending on wether or not the skinner uses their own or pre-made bases out there; I don't know what is still being used by people. The redisign is a good idea as an option & may be a better way to draw a wider majority of skinners to participate.
While I doubt I'll be a part of this as a skinner, I would like to be a judge.
Also I really like the redesigning idea. It would make this easier to judge since skill levels are so varied and I personally dislike skinning something someone skinned recently. I've usually have a 6 months rule just so I don't step on anyone's toes.
A prize! The winner should be hosted as HeroForce or something.
I'll definitely agree there's a serious potential problems involved in this, but it also could be alot of fun. I really like the same base idea. Restricted to minor face alterations, that would make anonymous submissions much easier. The more I think about it the more I like it as a design off (personal note: I'm not the best designer in the world) we could also have sister competitions in drawing and hero tool design submissions. I'll agree with UE that if you entered you'd have to know what to expect. The tiers idea might also be useful.
Not sure if I'd actually enter though. Time frame in particular could make me entering difficult.
How about avatars for posters who lack them? That came up in the other skinning challenge thread. Say, in each contest the skinners are coming up with a concept, design and skin for, say, thalaw or catwhowalksbyhimself or stumpy. (I think they're avatar-less but I'm not sure)
I still skin Aly...just not nearly as prolific as I use to be...
This idea reminds me of the old Golden Skinny awards. I ended up losing to Gryphon I think. I was disappointed but happy to see I came pretty close to the top skinner at the time. I also remember it ruffled a few feathers and the Golden Skinnys went away pretty quick after that.
I don't like the idea of inhibiting skinners for the competition...like forcing them to use a certain base or minor face alterations. I would just get annoyed knowing I can do better be not being allowed to. Tiers would probably be the best way to go...but then who decides who belongs in what tier? How many skinners would be offended by being placed in lower tier than they think they are and then just pull out of the competion all together.
If not tiers...then redesigns, avatars, or originals based off a power type would have to be the way to go. A good design can give a poor skin higher marks.
Quote from: Courtnall6 on May 13, 2009, 12:07:27 AM
How many skinners would be offended by being placed in lower tier than they think they are and then just pull out of the competion all together.
That's why I'd say placing them based on the skills they've already shown... like, if someone REALLY want to be in the same tier as you are, they can make a base before the competition... doesn't have to be a GOOD base, just a base.
Regarding people being unhappy with being placed in a tier, or not winning ... isn't that a risk you run when entering a competition? You could tie yourself in knots trying not to offend everyone, but ultimately, nobody is forcing people to enter into the competition in the first place.
Why not have the top five skinners (by forum consenus) act as judges? Then they can face-off for the "top tier" title at the end?
Anyway, really cool idea ... maybe cool enough to get me to start skinning if the competition becomes a regular thing on this forum.
Styles aside, sometimes I just like one skin better than another. My favorite skin for Superman REN is Atomic Robot's 1940 skin, and all the other people who have done skins for him have turned out some fantastic skins.
Other times, stuff just WORKS. I did a Machine Man skin that I thought turned out rather well, and would put it up against a similar one from C6 any day. I might lose, but hey, I might win (of course, C6 would win either way, that one has a base skin by him).
Quote from: Courtnall6 on May 13, 2009, 12:07:27 AM
If not tiers...then redesigns, avatars, or originals based off a power type would have to be the way to go. A good design can give a poor skin higher marks.
Bingo
I might steal this idea and run something similiar on the FFC forums. My thoughts would be more or less like the American Idol of Skinning.
- Staying true to the vibe of FF it would be based on original designs whether avatars or power based archtypes... or even just from a name.
- Two or three judges would be selected to offer 'expert' critique (thoiugh every one could)
- 'X' amount of skinners would begin and their names would be known
- Each week (or two) a skinning challenge would be assigned to them all. For instance week 1 could be creating a 'fire based' character; week two... create an avatar for some one with out one; week three create a character named Lavalier; etc.
- Voting on the skins would be done via a 'public poll' with the higher ranked skins(skinners) making it to the next round. Each judge may also get some sort of vote as well
- The number of skinners who don't make it would depend on how many joined in the first place.
- Keep going till we get a winner. Maybe we can get Gryphon to return a skin a duet at the end. ^_^
Just thoughts
Quote from: Tomato on May 13, 2009, 12:25:31 AM
Quote from: Courtnall6 on May 13, 2009, 12:07:27 AM
How many skinners would be offended by being placed in lower tier than they think they are and then just pull out of the competion all together.
That's why I'd say placing them based on the skills they've already shown... like, if someone REALLY want to be in the same tier as you are, they can make a base before the competition... doesn't have to be a GOOD base, just a base.
What about making tiers voluntary? Three tiers, starting at three, two better than three, and one the top ranking. If somebody wanted to assign themselves a particular tier, they can choose for themselves. I think everyone involved would be honest enough to assess their own skill well enough, and mature enough to not pick a lower tier just to win.
Hey I say do this like a science project. (Remember those when you were young?)Whoever has the best skin and is really ingenuitive with what they came up with and don't just limit it to just the skin you can base it on the skoping or meshing work they used too. And why not have teams of individuals like one person skopes while the other skins. And don't base it on one character. How about a team (ex. Power Rangers, X-Force, G.I. Joe, Bionic Six) preferably one we haven't seen done yet. And it can be originals too. Whatta ya say?! Shoot I have an idea already!!! :thumbup: (Man if we did this some 2 years ago me and Revanant would have one this with the Ninja Turtles hands down! Or AA could have got it with his Hive World originals!)
glad to see my idea has sparked interest
now dance puppets dance :D :P
I reckon stick to skins first.
If that competition works well, then you can expand it to include projects, like "best skin/skope team". That would be totally sweet.
But yeah, start the competition with skins first ... get the rules down, decide on who the judges will be, and see how many people actually want to participate.
My 2 cents.
Quote from: Star on May 14, 2009, 12:36:29 AM
I reckon stick to skins first.
If that competition works well, then you can expand it to include projects, like "best skin/skope team". That would be totally sweet.
But yeah, start the competition with skins first ... get the rules down, decide on who the judges will be, and see how many people actually want to participate.
See I think that is unfair. You should not be limited to meshes/skopes. I think options would really make this interesting and an actual challenge and give people with different styles a better chance.
A good example of this : (http://afghanant.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/supermen_3dmodels.png)
All three are the same character, different meshes and it makes a difference.
That's my old standard skin for Ren's mesh...he's been updated since... :P
Quote from: Courtnall6 on May 14, 2009, 03:41:13 AM
That's my old standard skin for Ren's mesh...he's been updated since... :P
But did you post it or are you keeping it to yourself?
(You fiend!)
no, it's actually on Ren's site... check his skins page.
Quote from: AfghanAnt on May 14, 2009, 01:34:32 AM
Quote from: Star on May 14, 2009, 12:36:29 AM
I reckon stick to skins first.
If that competition works well, then you can expand it to include projects, like "best skin/skope team". That would be totally sweet.
But yeah, start the competition with skins first ... get the rules down, decide on who the judges will be, and see how many people actually want to participate.
See I think that is unfair. You should not be limited to meshes/skopes. I think options would really make this interesting and an actual challenge and give people with different styles a better chance.
A good example of this : (http://afghanant.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/supermen_3dmodels.png)
All three are the same character, different meshes and it makes a difference.
Ultimately, it just depends how much work people want to put into their entry. Sticking to skins would be less time consuming ... then again, working in teams (with one person focusing on skinning, the other on skoping) would fix that.
You've also got to consider how skoping would be judged ... would a more complex skope be rated higher than a simple, yet accurate, one? Would a skoped mesh have an advantage over a plain mesh? What if someone not only skoped, but created an entire new mesh for their character?
This could probably also be handled by the tiering system. Anybody want to suggest the number of tiers and their definitions? Like Tier 1 (skins/skopes/original meshes), Tier 2 (skins: advanced), Tier 3 (skins: intermediate), etc.
I was also thinking of five of the top creators (AA, C6, etc), as judges for the lower tiers, and the entire forum votes on the top tier.
I like that suggestion Star
Here's the "up to date" version :cool:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/Courtnall6/supers.jpg)
I think that we should keep it consistent, and that skinners should have to stick with one mesh. Otherwise, the point of the challenge--the skinning work--will get lost in the hexing/skoping/meshing. I think that..working with a mesh, however it is, should be a part of the challenge.
Quote from: Figure Fan on May 14, 2009, 04:10:01 PM
I think that we should keep it consistent, and that skinners should have to stick with one mesh. Otherwise, the point of the challenge--the skinning work--will get lost in the hexing/skoping/meshing. I think that..working with a mesh, however it is, should be a part of the challenge.
Agreed. Plus, if you throw in hexing/skoping/meshing, can you still call it a "skin off"?
Yes you can because the skin makes the hex/skope/mesh. Said the bias skoper. lol! ^_^
Since people seem to have strong feelings on both sides of this issue, why not simply have two contests? You could have a "skin-off", where everyone has to work with the same mesh, and a , uh, "character-off" (or something), where people have complete leeway to chose, skope, or create meshes, so long as the skin itself is their own original creation.
It seems, when I suggested having a skinning challenge again, that most people said they were burned out from the contest and that's why it died.
So I don't see how having two (three?) challenges is going to alleviate that particular problem. It'll just make it burn into the ground that much faster.
I just think that..the challenge should display individual skinning talent, not meshing. If you can take a simple mesh and make a complex skin on it look great, then that is a testament to your skinning ability. Add skoped bits, and now you're removing instances where skinning would make the difference, and you're muddling the focus of the competition. *shrugs*
Just make it a skinning competition?
I say we take TUE out back and flog him! :angry: :P Sorry...nothing constructive to add...please continue. :popcorn
Quote from: laughing paradox on May 14, 2009, 05:12:25 PM
It seems, when I suggested having a skinning challenge again, that most people said they were burned out from the contest and that's why it died.
So I don't see how having two (three?) challenges is going to alleviate that particular problem. It'll just make it burn into the ground that much faster.
On the other hand, there may be skinners who are inspired and/or interested in one of the two proposed types of challenge, but not by the other- so, with two contests, you may get a larger number of entries between the two.
Quote from: Blkcasanova247 on May 14, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
I say we take TUE out back and flog him! :angry: :P Sorry...nothing constructive to add...please continue. :popcorn
bring it ya wannabe :P
Honestly, I'd say rather then confine ourselves to a specific mesh, maybe confine ourselves to a general mesh set? Something Like the Irrational basic meshes.
Like Alaric is saying, maybe two challenges would work out well.
Maybe one could be a skinning-only challenge (on one a mesh or a few options), and the other could be something like a "mashup" where you submit your absolute best effort consisting of whatever elements you needed, and it could be judged as a whole, not just by the skin.
I really think the only way this sort of challenge could be fair to all tiers is allowing skinners to use every tool in their bag and I see skoping as a tool.
Just hear me out, if this was just going to be owned characters are contestants forced to skin on the same exact mesh even if they prefer a different one? If we are doing originals are we not allowing contestants the ability to recreate their designs as exact as possible (i.e. adding bootcuffs or pouches).
Also if there is skoping is there also no hexxing?
seeing as i started this idea i suppose i should put my own thoughts forwards, the only constraints i was planning to enforce was the character, not the mesh/skope/hex etc. the whole point was to showcase talent as a skinner, to give people free region within a limited brief
it be like an art contest but telling everyone that they can only use colouring pencils
Quote from: the_ultimate_evil on May 14, 2009, 10:41:32 PM
it be like an art contest but telling everyone that they can only use colouring pencils
I totally agree.
Okay then, forget tiers ... lets say there is Advanced (skinning / skoping / hexing) and Intermediate (skinning). Everyone who wants to skin on a skope they've created (Afghan Ant, Ultimate Evil, etc) can compete in Advanced. Everyone who just wants to skin on a pre-existing mesh/skope (Figure Fan, etc) can compete in Intermediate.
How about we choose five complex design characters that have never been created before (Advanced) and five characters with more simple designs & pre-existing or provided skopes/meshes (Intermediate)?
I was also thinking Johnny Patches could provide some skoped meshes for Intermediate ... he has a pile of unique characters that have yet to be skinned.
OK... Who decides who is in what tier? Did I miss how that was going to work? I would be perfectly happy having the rounds be completely random. Anyone interested can put their name in and for round 1 two names are picked and a character (mainstream, original, avatar or redesign). If you get stuck going up against someone considered top tier then, so be it. Try hard and put out something that you can be proud of. I am sure the judging would be completely unbiased. If ya can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Plain and simple.
To me the important thing is who the judges should be. It also shouldn't matter if there are skopes and such. Multiple challenges will mean multiple headaches. This really shouldn't be such a BIG issue. IMO
What about first, second, and third place awards? I mean, IF C6 or AA were in first place, how bad would second place really be?
While I don't have a problem with skinning scoped meshes (might be fun to recieve a random JP scope and have to skin it. Might be? Heck, I know it would be.), I'm not sure that I would like to include my own scoping abilities as part of the competition.
If skoping and hexxing are allowed (by a skinner in the contest) and the skope/hex is also considered during voting ...it is no longer a "skin off". It becomes 3D art contest on character design.
If you want an actual "skin off" all participants must use the same mesh/skope/hex selected by the judges and voting be based purely on the skinners 2D work.
Quote from: Courtnall6 on May 15, 2009, 03:56:51 AM
If skoping and hexxing are allowed (by a skinner in the contest) and the skope/hex is also considered during voting ...it is no longer a "skin off". It becomes 3D art contest on character design.
If you want an actual "skin off" all participants must use the same mesh/skope/hex selected by the judges and voting be based purely on the skinners 2D work.
Quote from: billdamn22 on May 15, 2009, 12:28:06 AM
OK... Who decides who is in what tier? Did I miss how that was going to work? I would be perfectly happy having the rounds be completely random. Anyone interested can put their name in and for round 1 two names are picked and a character (mainstream, original, avatar or redesign). If you get stuck going up against someone considered top tier then, so be it. Try hard and put out something that you can be proud of. I am sure the judging would be completely unbiased. If ya can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Plain and simple.
To me the important thing is who the judges should be. It also shouldn't matter if there are skopes and such. Multiple challenges will mean multiple headaches. This really shouldn't be such a BIG issue. IMO
as much as i like having creative control, the guys has a point
Quote from: Courtnall6 on May 15, 2009, 03:56:51 AM
If skoping and hexxing are allowed (by a skinner in the contest) and the skope/hex is also considered during voting ...it is no longer a "skin off". It becomes 3D art contest on character design.
If you want an actual "skin off" all participants must use the same mesh/skope/hex selected by the judges and voting be based purely on the skinners 2D work.
My thoughts
exactly.
You see, this is why I was suggesting two contests. Both points of view are, as far as I can see, equally valid. They simply result from looking at the idea in different ways. Just because two people disagree doesn't always mean one is right and the other wrong in some absolute sense- sometimes, it really is a matter of personal opinion. I doubt very much either side is going to convince the other. Having two contests, or two different categories in one contest (really the same thing using different words), strikes me as the ONLY way to allow everyone to have the kind of contest they want. If calling it separate contests bothers people, just call it different categories in one contest. Many contests include the possibility of winning in various different categories- why not this one?
Remember, one way allows more of a true contest of overall creativity, while the otehr allows more of a true contest of skill at using what one is given. They're both valid.
I honestly got a chuckle from reading all the debate on this...
"fair" "honest" "unbiased" I'm sorry but the most fair honest wonderful person in the world who would try to judge no matter whether it's the same mesh, diff mesh, 2 skinners, 20 skinners.... is going to be influenced by personal choice and preference. We've all made or seen a skin or mesh.. then seen someone pick something else and gone.. "are they freakin' insane???" My personal favorite nit pick is when people skin or mesh a character who's known for being very lean and wiry and then make them muscle bound and ready to enter the wrestling ring.
I'm not saying contests like this aren't fun, shouldn't be held or anything of the sort... I'm saying quit thinking about it so damn much.. do some blind drawings for who gets paired up with who.. who judges who and let's laugh at the outcomes... cause I guarantee there will be some upsets in the judging and we'll all think it's bizarre! :thumbup:
I really think you guys need to decide what exactly this is going to be.
Is it a pure best skinner contest? In that case C6 is probably right. If you allow different characters in the contest it's going to muddle the judging. Say one skinner does Superman and the other does Wolverine - now you've got character bias and costume design bias potentially at play.
Also if it's a pure skinning contest then tiers are essentially a must. There's only a handful of people who would have any chance of winning a free for all skin off. But if you tier it then it gives everyone a chance. Deciding how to set the tiers is a little trickier. I like the idea of people choosing the tier, but theoretically I could choose the lowest tier and pretty much guarantee a victory. I like the idea of setting the tiers based on specific criteria - beginner, done a base, etc. - and allowing the skinner the option to upgrade to a higher tier if they want. Judges would be in charge of determining tiers probably.
Is it a character design contest? In that case you gotta allow full skoping/hexing/meshing. In this skinning ability case take a backseat and design can take priority. A weak skinner could still pull through if he had a great design.
I like the idea of criteria for tiers. As for somebody entering a lower tier so they can win it how about a community vote, for example I post a link to my previous skins and an communtiy vote determine what tier I'm in based on existing work. We do this before the skin off starts. You feel you've been placed too low, prove it by winning your tier. I'm even tempted to enter this.
I agree with C6, but I guess for somewhat different reasons... I'm old enough (in forum time) to remember a period where you didn't have nifskope, or Ren's amazing mesh work. You worked with what you had, what ideas you could come up with, and so on. I remember, back before I got my own copy of max, thinking that as long as something held the general shape you wanted, you could take it wherever you wanted with your textures. A highlight here, a shadow there, that can change everything.
So yes, while I think skoping AND meshing (because that'd be where I'd be trumping you guys in a full-on contest ;) ) plays a part in the overall look, at the end of the day, it's what WE do that defines those pieces.
And then you can vote.. on a vote.. about having a vote!
:doh:
Quote from: Haljack on May 15, 2009, 08:02:57 PM
I like the idea of criteria for tiers. As for somebody entering a lower tier so they can win it how about a community vote, for example I post a link to my previous skins and an communtiy vote determine what tier I'm in based on existing work. We do this before the skin off starts. You feel you've been placed too low, prove it by winning your tier. I'm even tempted to enter this.
Well if we set criteria for tiers it would prevent a skinner, say myself, entering a tier they are too good for.
random draw.. same mesh same character.. BEGIN!
STOP THINKING
edit: oops I didn't realize the contest was actually to design the most overly complicated contest possible. carry on
Quote from: Vertex on May 15, 2009, 08:25:24 PM
random draw.. same mesh same character.. BEGIN!
STOP THINKING
edit: oops I didn't realize the contest was actually to design the most overly complicated contest possible. carry on
:lol:
I kinda agree, just do it and see what happens.
Just start it off TUE
Character: ???
Mesh: ???
and.....GO!!!!
Right ok then it's a skin off, I started this idea so i've decided. you want in they you play by the rules, you know what you are getting yourself into, this can get rough and some comments can be hard. but as others have said if you are sensitive about your work then don't enter
- each pair will be assigned a character and mesh for that round,
- now the catch if the character has multiple costumes, if you can skin them to the assigned mesh then you have choice in costumes
- if the mesh has hidden items then you can hex but no skoping.
- if you win you will progress to the next round of the tournament where you will be given a character
- characters will be randomly drawn from all sources including avatars
- all entrys must be new work, if you've skinned the character before you may use elements like extras but the skin but be 90% new work, if questioned you may be asked to show comparison picks
now onto judging and marking, the easyiest was to do this is with a group of 3 judges,
- a judge will mark each entry out of 10 and average of the 3 will be your final score.
e.g if judge A marks an entry 6, judge B marks it 8 and judge C marks it 4, making 18/30 so 18 divided 3 so the final score is 6/10 - now a judge can enter the competition his/her self, but they can not mark there own work. to combat this the other two judges will mark the skin out of 20 and divide the total by 2 instead of 3
- what the judges are looking for are
- faithfulness to the source
- use of techniques
- skill of the artist
- the judges will each assign the characters
- prizes may be awarded for the top 3, but that will be determinate at a later date, and what they will be i've no idea
at the moment I'm thinking of 4 rounds starting with 8 members, then the quarters, semi's and then final. does that seem fair. so who wants in to we make a list
Or you could have up to 10 backup judges :P
jk. I'm up for this, as long as I don't have to skope.
Oh, this is interesting. Wish I could participate, but I'll be okay with spectating. :D
Now if you'll excuse me, I've been away long enough to completely miss what skoping is.
Quote from: Spring Heeled Jack on May 16, 2009, 12:48:18 AM
Oh, this is interesting. Wish I could participate, but I'll be okay with spectating. :D
Now if you'll excuse me, I've been away long enough to completely miss what skoping is.
Haha!
I'm interested in judging, but that's up to whoever to select me. If I'm not chosen, I won't be hurt.
this has started so get your arse to the official thread and sign up
you really want tomato to win by default ;)