From Renegade's response to the "Renegade Requests" thread in the Requests forum, it appears that he has given permission for us (the community) to post his meshes someplace where they will be readily accssible to all (hopefully until he gets his own place and starts meshing again).
So, suggestions?
Yaaa - hooo!!!
You neglected to mention the other monthly Renegade titles:
"Renegade Presents..."
"The Retrograde Renegade"
"R-Gade: Man-o-Mesh"
"Renegade Classic"
"Unidirectional Spotlight On: Renegade"
"What Renegade...?"
I'm wondering aloud, now, thinking that there ought to be an opt-in "mesh graveyard" not unlike the Mod Graveyard hosted by catwhowalksbyhimself. In other words, when mesh websites disappear, meshers could indicate their willingness to have their content hosted on the mesh graveyard, with the understanding that they could resurrect their content (i.e., pull it from the graveyard site and re-host it elsewhere) at any time.
ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Whirled Braker
<---Likes the idea.
Aha! Tiobe shows that he's not just another pretty face.
Maybe a Skins Graveyard, too (HEY! C6!...)
Any other ideas?
That Renegade, he's a giver. :D
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for more meshes though because I really don't have that kind of time anymore. But once y'all work this out I can pass along the McGuiness style Bizarro I've been sitting on the past couple of years (oy, has it been that long?)
---Renegade
i was hopin' you'd say doctor doom. :lol:
Quote from: Renegade on February 06, 2011, 11:02:32 PM
That Renegade, he's a giver. :D
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for more meshes though because I really don't have that kind of time anymore. But once y'all work this out I can pass along the McGuiness style Bizarro I've been sitting on the past couple of years (oy, has it been that long?)
---Renegade
You are such a tease. I think... it should just go on FRP. It was my post he responded to, after all. ;)
*I kid... or am I? I am... or maybe I'm not? But yeah, I'm joshin' ya... or perhaps that, too, is a lie?*
Quote from: Renegade on February 06, 2011, 11:02:32 PM
But once y'all work this out I can pass along the McGuiness style Bizarro I've been sitting on the past couple of years (oy, has it been that long?)
---Renegade
Hmmm...just checked my .psd skin file...22/05/2009 since last modified. Oh how time does fly! :wacko:
I know! Crazy right? What can I say, the last 2 years have been kind of a trial for the Renegade clan. Very little room for the kind of time FF always took.
I don't know you, but I appreciate your work, and I'm glad that it will be seeing the light of day.
That's awesome! Will you release the Red Skull? Or did you not finish that?
But once again thanks for agreeing to let the community host your stuff.
Both the skins and mesh graveyard sounds like splendid ideas. I think I can safely assume that many great skins and meshes elude peoples attention, just because they have no idea they exist. You can always request meshes/skins here on the forum, and people are always very helpful, but it kind of presupposes that you kind of know what you're looking for. I have for instance only just recently obtained Renegades "Thing-mesh", it's definitely one of the best meshes out there and I had no idea he even made one 'till I spotted a request for it on the forum. Thank you Renegade, by the way, if you are reading this. It would be nice to have a place to go in search, of what has become, hidden treasures, because the creators are no longer active for whatever reason. I'm also pretty sure, no matter how glum the prediction, that the need for such places will only grow bigger in the future.
Also...I'm thrilled about the prospect of a new Bizarro. Yea!
Usually, I don't know I need a mesh until I look at a skins readme file to find out that it doesn't work on any mesh I have ever heard of. I have a similar problem when I open a mesh and it is looking for a particular keyframe. I figure getting Renegade back won't fix all of my problems, but since a lot of skins require Renegade meshes, it will fix a lot of them.
as a temporary solution, would setting up a new yahoo group work?
I could do that. I can't do HTML, though.
Must...fight...temptation to...buy...web hosting...space...must...re...sist!
Seriously. If there were enough momentum behind this (i.e., support from content providers and community members who would make use of the site), I would build and host the site. I've been meaning to try to move MeshMatters (that den of fitful inactivity) to another host for an age; this would just give me another reason to purchase some decent hosting space.
ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Whirled Braker
Quote from: Renegade on February 06, 2011, 11:02:32 PM
That Renegade, he's a giver. :D
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for more meshes though because I really don't have that kind of time anymore. But once y'all work this out I can pass along the McGuiness style Bizarro I've been sitting on the past couple of years (oy, has it been that long?)
---Renegade
oh hopefully thats just a little joke
seriously mate i'd just love to see your stuff hosted again
Never meant to deprive anyone of the meshes (what good is a toy that doesn't get played with?), but I decided I didn't need to spend the 90 bucks a year to keep them out there. I did the Yahoo groups thing early on, in fact they may still exist, but as I feel these are a visual product I preferred having them hosted on a site where people could see what they were getting before they committed.
I am very flattered that people still care.
---Renegade
Quote from: Renegade on February 07, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Never meant to deprive anyone of the meshes (what good is a toy that doesn't get played with?), but I decided I didn't need to spend the 90 bucks a year to keep them out there. I did the Yahoo groups thing early on, in fact they may still exist, but as I feel these are a visual product I preferred having them hosted on a site where people could see what they were getting before they committed.
I am very flattered that people still care.
---Renegade
There is always room at HeroForce. :)
I think that I have most, if not all, of the Toybox meshes. If someone were to host them, I'd be more than happy to send out anything that I may have that others might not.
That would be cool. When I first really go active in the game, I was going down different sites in alphabetical order. I had checked The Toybox and almost jumped ahead to grabbed his work, but I didn't want to lose my place. By time I got to it, it was already a dead link.
Quote from: Renegade on February 07, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Never meant to deprive anyone of the meshes (what good is a toy that doesn't get played with?), but I decided I didn't need to spend the 90 bucks a year to keep them out there. I did the Yahoo groups thing early on, in fact they may still exist, but as I feel these are a visual product I preferred having them hosted on a site where people could see what they were getting before they committed.
I am very flattered that people still care.
---Renegade
People care a lot. Your meshes are present in almost all DC/Marvel mods, because they're so good we always want to play with them. Have all your meshes in the same site again will be very helpful for the guys who weren't around in the good Toybox days.
Like everyone else I'm thrilled that we've got permission to preserve Ren's amazing work the way it deserves to be preserved, and I'm glad so many of our leading members are stepping up with offers of hosting. Thanks guys. This work should definitely be made easily available again.
Ren, we definitely care, to echo JJ. There has been a lot of wonderful artwork created for this little game, and your work is certainly among the finest.
Let's face it, most of us are fans of each other. We all love your stuff.
And Kenn's...
And C6's...
And Gryphon's...
And Bearded's...
And Beyonder's...
And Ink's...
And Tommy's...
And...
So... will it be at Heroforce, or do we add to Renegade's Yahoo Groups?
I've started to create new groups for the Toybox stuff, just temporary though till hosting is agreed on. I'll post the links by Wednesday. Hope no one minds.
Quote from: daglob on February 08, 2011, 03:49:23 AM
Let's face it, most of us are fans of each other. We all love your stuff.
And Kenn's...
And C6's...
And Gryphon's...
And Bearded's...
And Beyonder's...
And Ink's...
And Tommy's...
And...
So... will it be at Heroforce, or do we add to Renegade's Yahoo Groups?
Exactly, and having all of those guys' work available to the community is a very good thing. :D
Quote from: AfghanAnt on February 07, 2011, 10:17:55 PM
There is always room at HeroForce. :)
Indeed.
It will be great to have your stuff properly hosted again Ren.
Love to see RENs stuff back online
I've been playing with this idea in my head for a while. Why not have specific creator owned threads that are locked. The only content would be images of the meshes/skins/whatever with permanent links to mediafire or megaupload?
I know it would really centralize the community. And of course it wouldn't allow fantastic webpage design like heroforce. But I think it would provide a simpple alternative to yahoo groups and other hosting issues.
may i third the HF idea
and we love gren's stuff too! :wub:
Quote from: Cyber Burn on February 08, 2011, 05:02:27 AM
I've started to create new groups for the Toybox stuff, just temporary though till hosting is agreed on. I'll post the links by Wednesday. Hope no one minds.
if youre going off of the disks that you lent me, then youre missing some stuff. off of the tip of my tounge, i believe youre missing:
wolverine (all of them)
hulk (all of them)
skrulls (all of them)
thing
im not sure what else though, if anything.
Y'know, Ren, when I don't use my meshes I use yours. :P
I use Renegade ™ brand antiperspirant/deodorant each and every morning.
And I admire his mesh work...and his taste in evening attire. :)
ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Renegades_Toybox/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Renegades_Toybox_Part_2/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Renegades_Toybox_Part_3/
Again, this is
only temporary until someone hosts them properly. Renegade, if you join, I'll make you owner/moderator. These are yours after all, thank you for making them abd thank you for letting us play with them.
Quote from: Amazo Version 2.2 on February 08, 2011, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: Cyber Burn on February 08, 2011, 05:02:27 AM
I've started to create new groups for the Toybox stuff, just temporary though till hosting is agreed on. I'll post the links by Wednesday. Hope no one minds.
if youre going off of the disks that you lent me, then youre missing some stuff. off of the tip of my tounge, i believe youre missing:
wolverine (all of them)
hulk (all of them)
skrulls (all of them)
thing
im not sure what else though, if anything.
Looks like I am missing a few, if someone has the missing meshes, let me know, and I'll add you to the moderator group so you can upload them. Or you can just send them my way and I'll upload them. Whatever is preferable.
Hulks loaded to group 1.
Thing and Wolverines loaded to group 2.
Thanks to Pesident Raygun for the meshes.
Quote from: ow_tiobe_sb on February 07, 2011, 08:06:39 PM
Must...fight...temptation to...buy...web hosting...space...must...re...sist!
Seriously. If there were enough momentum behind this (i.e., support from content providers and community members who would make use of the site), I would build and host the site. I've been meaning to try to move MeshMatters (that den of fitful inactivity) to another host for an age; this would just give me another reason to purchase some decent hosting space.
ow_tiobe_sb
Phantom Bunburyist and Whirled Braker
MeshMatters a den of fitful inactitity?!?! Whu?!?!?! I'm there all the time!!!!
that explains the smell
sorry, kind of off topic, but what is 'mesh matters'?
Quote from: Amazo Version 2.2 on February 11, 2011, 08:23:21 PM
sorry, kind of off topic, but what is 'mesh matters'?
Now, that's mean. :P
On topic, since Ren's stuff really wouldn't fit on NPI anyway (I love Ren's work, but it doesn't mesh with the site's "originals FTW" theme) I'll back Prev's push to have them hosted on FRP. He got things moving to begin with, and his site is the most active FF content site out there right now (Prev seems to think weekly updates are necessary for some reason. He could put out content monthly and still make HF, NPI, and Champions look bad).
I guess we'll see.