Freedom Reborn

Actually, it seems like things are being set up for it to be the same Otto that we've been following inside the Living Brain. That said, I could also see them bringing back both... And it'd be an interesting confrontation, to say the least. The Otto that's been inside Living Brain isn't actually a post-sacrifice Otto, but is a backup he created at the end of Spider-Verse... Meaning this Otto is not the one who made the heroic sacrifice to restore Peter Parker.

If the "miracle" cloning works the way it seems to (with memories stretching until the moment of a person's death) an Otto brought back by Warren without the digital backup would either A. Only have memories up until he attempted to swap minds with Peter, or B. Have memories up until he sacrificed his own mind to restore Peter's. The latter is super intriguing, because it would set the stage for an interesting confrontation between an Otto who merely believes himself Superior, and an Otto who actually is.

Actually,Otto mentioned he can only transfer into Peters body,because the system is calibrated like that and he cant re-calibrate it.And now seeing the whole cloning thing,I think I can guess the resolution,Superior Spiderman could be back soon.

Actually, what he said was that the device was designed to transfer between his body and Peter's... Meaning he CAN transfer back to Peter's body, but the issue makes it clear why he doesn't want to go back to it.

That being said, he's made it clear he wants to make a better version of his original body, so I wouldn't be surprised if he attempts to augment his original body with what he knows about Peter's abilities.  A suedo-Superior Spider-man, if you will.

After having been super happy with going back and reading the Superior Spider-Man series, as well as my recent disillusionment with Green Goblin as THE Spider-Man villain, I've been looking forward to Doc Ock's return for a while now. I was looking forward to something new, something that took advantage of the progression of his character during his time with Peter's memories. If not a body augmented with Spider-Powers, at least one in the prime of his youth, as ASM 18 even brought up.

But no, instead we just get Otto returning to his 40-something classic look, which is just... disappointing. Like... don't get me wrong, I LIKE Otto's classic look, but I was looking forward to something new, at least in design if not character progression.

Oh, and Gwen's back. In a Jackal story. Ho boy, no one saw that coming as soon as this arc started, no sir.

It's more that this is a Gwen from up until her death, meaning she's practically the real Gwen resurrected, rather than a trophy wife clone. Again though, this is old ground, especially with the Jackal.

That said, didn't notice a reference to Sins Past in the backup story.

Madam Web.

On the one hand, reviving Madam Web makes sense... getting someone who sees the future is a major boon to plotting, after all. On the other... her appearance raises a ton of questions. She transferred her powers to Julia Carpenter before she died. How does her clone, even one with all the original's memories, have them? Is it tied to Julia losing those powers after waking from her coma at the end of Spider-verse?

The reveal here is... interesting, though I'm not sure how much I buy it. The main conceit is that the "zombie clone" thing is spread in all these different universes because Peter capitulates to the Jackal and spreads New U through his company.

Ummm... what?

First of all, I don't buy the idea that Peter even HAS a company on most worlds, let alone one big enough to spread New U everywhere. Peter only has a company in 616 because Otto basically gave him a doctorate and a company on a silver platter. Yes, Peter's innovations might have helped shape the company, but you'd have to do a LOT of mental backflips for that to be the status quo on a significant number of universes.

But even putting that issue aside... Peter's not that stupid. He wasn't really inclined to accept Jackal's pitch to begin with, let alone with his Spider-Sense blaring like a foghorn every time he gets near any of the clones. I could see this happening on one or two worlds before... enough to warn SS and SG of the problem... but the issue makes it seem like this is something affecting a significant number of worlds.

And even with ALL of that... it's not like this is something Jackal doesn't know about. He's well aware of the aberration, and Otto is already working on a way to correct it. You cannot honestly tell me that with Peter, Otto, and Miles all putting their heads together and doing their due diligence, they can't find a fix before rolling this stuff out.

Spider Gwen thing came pretty much out of nowhere.Unless it was in Spider-Gwen,in that case,my bad.And not surprisingly,Kaine is back?What did he do since
Spider-verse?Or was that also in Spider-Gwen?

Spider-Gwen hasn't been out for a bit so it's conceivable. Plus, she was still running around as a part of the Web Warriors when that book ended, and it seems perfectly reasonable that the team encountered Kaine at some point. He's been alive for awhile and was last seen on the world they've been operating out of since the end of Spider-Verse, so it's not THAT big a plot hole to fill.

Jackal ISNT Miles Warren.Hes Ben Riley,who's somehow alive.(Somebody used New U system on him?Which raises even more questions.)And offers to revive Uncle Ben.

So it's revealed in the latest issue of Amazing how Ben is alive, and how he got to this point: Simply put, Miles Warren found him and cloned him over and over.

Thing is though... that explanation doesn't wash unless this is a completely different Miles Warren. For one thing, we know the one running around up until VERY recently was the Jackal. Despite his Warren dupe army, it would have been that Miles that would have run experiments on Ben... and we KNOW that version didn't have access to Ben's DNA, because one of the reasons he was so desperate to get ahold of Kaine during Superior SM's tenure was because he needed to study the DNA of a working clone, since he didn't have Ben's DNA to work with.

That said, at the very least, there's a subtle, if stupid, explanation for the green and fuzzy jackal... there's a panel where Ben walks across a bunch of Jackal costumes. Doesn't entirely explain how the old and frail Miles Warren is able to leap around like the Beast, but it's there, I guess?

I meant the details specifically. We knew it was Ben last issue, but we didn't know how. If this was something recent, something that happened since Miles' last appearance the Superior SM/Kaine crossover... I could buy it. But the implication from the rooftop scene is that Miles had Ben's DNA since right after Ben's death, and that directly contradicts the team-up claiming that Jackal needed Kaine's DNA to have a non-corrupt clone on file... which he wouldn't need if he's had Ben's DNA since his death.

Sure, it's an easy hand wave: Ben was goo at the time, so I doubt his DNA was in very good shape. Warren probably needed Kaine's DNA to stabilize Ben's. But it's a hand wave that's not ever mentioned or explored.

Also: Ben totally killed Miles. They're all clones, part of his "better way."

but there also seems to be a big confrontation with Osborn in the works.And Lizard and his reptilian family escaped,so that's probably going to be a big infestation story.